The Smiths and Morrissey: Tony Wilson 03 (of 6)

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Күн бұрын

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@seankilburn7200 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think he always speaks the complete truth of events but I could listen to him all day

@cob1965 5 жыл бұрын

What a quote! 'Certainly Steven is one of the biggest arseholes in terms of a human being' Priceless, love him and The Smiths, the world is a little bit better because of them both.

@GnomeChomsky9999 3 жыл бұрын

Tony is very perceptive!

@simonvaughan6017 Жыл бұрын

This confirms what I've always suspected: that, although Marr provided the harmonic structures for the Smiths' songs, Morrissey came up with the melodic lines (i.e. he didn't just write the lyrics).

@philipnicholson2851 6 күн бұрын

Very true. Similar to REM and Stipe. He wrote all the lyrics AND the vocal melodies.

@bmarc7184 3 жыл бұрын

Shoot the DJ and Look who's Miserable Now are my favourite Smiths songs

@mayamojo4 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget that's how joan of arc felt

@pcalf101 Жыл бұрын

Yea he despises them. 0 respect basically

@simonrichards6739 Жыл бұрын

I like ‘when is it’?

@galaxywolf969 4 жыл бұрын

Hand in Glove was actually their debut single released in May 1983. It didn't chart. This Charming Man (October, May '83) reached 25 on the UK Singles Chart. What is really mind blowing is that the Smiths never had a number one hit, Morrisey didn't either, nor did chart until the re-release of Unknown Pleasures in 2019 at the 5th spot on the Uk Album Chart. New Order never had a number 1 single in the Uk but made the top 40s 27 times. They did have 7 Top 10 albums. Think of all those one hit wonders (some very good) and songs we have almost totally forgotten who did and you just know that the Music Industry, like the Film Industry, has several screws lose somewhere.

@seankilburn7200 3 жыл бұрын

Meat is murder was number 1 on release though

@imposs-up1hg 2 жыл бұрын

World in Motion was number 1 for New Order in the UK.

@jesusreyes7619 Жыл бұрын

Morrissey did have one number one hit in 2004.

@jamiecloughgaming25387 Жыл бұрын

It got to No3 Irish Blood English Heart.

@rec9980 Ай бұрын

I don't want to sound pretentious, but after listening over and over to all their songs as a true fan, I'd rather point out the following song making method that made the band so unique: The lyrics with motifs such as despair, hopelessness, sexual frustration, and alienation are contrasted with Marr's often playful and cheerful guitar melodies. First, you hear a nice melody with decent singing, then you are in awe of the lyric content, which is exaggerated to the point that it seems absurd and witty. "I really had a bad dream, it lasted 20 years (!), seven months and 27 (wtf?) days"😂 What a mind-blowing creativeness in songwriting! People who just don't pay much attention when listening to the Smiths often miss that. The Smiths required some effort to be understood, more demanding listeners, and that's why they never hit the top spots in the charts. They were a pop band with the message that should, unlike other pop acts, raise the level of consciousness and make people aware of the world and society they live in. There are other ingredients, like Marr's unique guitar playing, Morrissey's singing style, a slight gay profile of the rock band unusual for that time...also creative synergy between Mozz and Marr is crucial. None of them have achieved as much separately as in the Smiths. Even though Morrissey has had some successful albums since the breakup, they cannot match those of the Smiths in terms of quality.

@yamaproductions7807 6 жыл бұрын

This charming is up there with a day in the life , so blue Monday kisses ass when we talk about greatness

@thephoenix3155 4 жыл бұрын

I like Marr (after The Smiths) especially his work with Bernard Sumner and Neil Tennant (Electronic).

@harryjackson6439 7 жыл бұрын

This charming man wasn't their 1st single it was Hand in glove.

@TykesTV 6 жыл бұрын

but it wasn't a hit single

@seankilburn7200 3 жыл бұрын

@@TykesTV it certainly should’ve been though

@TykesTV 3 жыл бұрын

@@seankilburn7200 oh definatly

@andrewbrown3322 7 жыл бұрын

I don't agree that the roses copied the monday's. But great to hear this mans honest views and his take on history.

@stevedixon8567 5 жыл бұрын

their image might have been influenced by the Mondays (it was leather trousers and hair gel initially) , but definitely not the music

@theselector4733 4 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair he said they only copied "This Rolling Rhythm". Which is kind of true. The Madchester drum pattern was fairly similar with all the bands. It was basically a slowed down version of early house music rhythms.