Prison Mate Luke: Gaps in the Bars

Prison life sure ain't easy!
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[@JustStop]

For anyone commenting straight from Luke's video about me, please look at my response in his comment section before coming to any conclusions. Also, please watch the full video for context. Thanks. Edit: People can't find the comment cause it got buried, so I'll copy it here: Hey. So I didn't think there would really be a response to my video in the first place as I meant more as a friendly criticism video while pointing out many flaws. I still don't wish to cause any drama despite what you or others may think, but I'd still like to speak on this without a full on video response. From the start of my video, I say I don't mean anything malicious in what I say and that holds true for this comment, but I do want to point out all it is you've gotten wrong or seemingly deflected as I was quite displeased with the video as a whole. Going point by point: 1:03 - From your opening point, it feels like you're deflecting. Your content is indeed the opinion you put out there, but that doesn't mean there's no ability to add naunces to said videos. You can go indepth on a topic if you like, work on visuals, try to do more research than others to add something to the conversation. It doesn't mean you have to change the core of what you stand for. I only included that bit about standing out for the sole purpose of showing you barely bring anything to the table and therefore are only really coasting off the topics you cover, and eventually that leads to burnout or stagnation in subs when dramas dry up or time and time again it's found you can't add anything and people pass you by. When you don't add anything to make you stand out or add to anything being stated, people lose interest. 1:23 - No. My point wasn't about having a different opinion. It was about adding to a situation in any way possible. This could mean looking where others wouldn't for information, asking for interviews of people involved, getting other creators together for a massive collaboration of brains, etc, etc. I never say to disagree with something as serious as pedophilia if the accusation holds strong and has clear evidence, but in all honesty, with many claims such as ProJared, just regurgitating information can lead to dire consequences from cancel culture and so on, one of the points i bring up about you when you lack research and give bias opinions based on one set of evidence and no further questioning. 2:12 - You can compensate for a monotone voice through accentuation of words, phrasing, and so on. I give tips about this later in the video. When I speak about trying to be funny or informative, it isn't saying you need to be either necessarily. It's more of a suggestion for making your content more interesting/engaging by adding something that people can want to watch the video for. I also mention having a good mix of the two or how an interesting personality can help plenty. 2:48 - This is strawmanning. I compared you to Keem and Scarce over regular commentators since you lack clear opinionated thought and mostly regurgitate what others say while only looking on the surface level, but then I refute that partially by saying I shouldn't compare you when Keem has much more of a personality. The strawmanning bit comes in when you insinuate it's fine for you to not go deeper than the surface level by bringing up "icarly and pornhub" as if that's your main brand of content. You've gotten info wrong about Cosmo, Antoons, Pyro, Peaches, and more, all things you covered seriously and consider major matters. If those don't deserve more indepth analysis because you could and did get it wrong otherwise, what is? 3:22 - I never said you can't cover trendy topics, far from it, but when you don't make it so you add anything, it feels shallow and just another video in a sea of people covering it. 3:43 - I say in the following sentence after saying it's alright to cover trendy subjects that I've done it myself 4:33 - I left out no context as it wasn't important to my point that they apologized. I said they made bad videos and they took them down. My only point in that scenario was to say you got it wrong in saying the two openly defended Tobi. Whether or not you felt it "seemed that way" doesn't count for much when you were outright wrong. The rest of the point you bring up about the whole Tobi drama is a nonsequitor as it doesn't have to do with my point. I didn't defend their videos in any way. Note at 5:32 - I know. That wasn't the statement I was making. I said that you said that JAR and co were trying to argue that Kai and Omnia called Tobi a pedo and that it's false. I then go on to say that yes, they did in fact say it was only by her own logic, but Manga Kamen also stated this, and you left out the context relating to that, thus making it seem like you intentionally cut it to make a point they weren't arguing. 6:56 - Manga Kamen isn't cutting context here. He states that he knows the two don't think she's a pedo, but that they should have worded themselves better in doing so to not be opened up to slander by others thinking they meant it in jest rather than by her own logic. Without that clip, it feels like they're just saying Kai and Omnia called Tobi something a kin to a pedo and then backed off. Do you see how many could think that's cut context? 8:49 - You say I ignore you stating that it's still suspicious that Antoons allowed it on his server to begin with, but you're looking at my point from the wrong angle again. I make it clear from the beginning I dislike and will never defend Antoons, and so if you want to criticize/call him out, you should have your facts straight, which you didn't and even admit to. I didn't leave out context, you're just once again adding something I never argued for or against. 10:13 - None of the tweets you've shown before nor now imply Peaches was friends with Tobi. I brought up that one tweet as it was the only definitive one I could see where she points out her relationship with Tobi, that being a negative one. You don't provide evidence to refute my claim here. I also know you didn't bring it up to be a dick. Again, you interpreted what I was saying completely differently from how I clarified it to be about, that being showing the things you've gotten wrong thanks to your lack of research and ease with sometimes jumping on bandwagons. 11:53 - Dude. "seeing a pattern" is by no means an adequate reason to call someone a suicide baiter by any means without conclusive proof. 12:18 - I had no reason to talk about pulling the bigger creator card at all as it didn't have to do with point at all and doesn't help your case for saying she baited suicide, was scummy for it, was only doing it to manipulate her audience, and several other claims which come off as quite despicable in hindsight and were irresponsible to make at the time. It all circles back to my point before. 12:56 - While adding this specific screenshot would sharpen your case somewhat that it could be seen as suspicious, something you don't even show in your original video from what can be remembered, that doesn't justify what you did AT ALL. It was scummy to do so. I do have a problem with suicide baiting, but only when you can know for certain that's what they're doing, and your basis was flimsy at best. 14:22 - You showed one other screenshot, and it doesn't directly state it was you, like I mentioned before. Whether or not she implied it, she didn't state it was you outright, and in the one case she name drops you, it goes in opposition to what you were stating, plus in another, she does directly imply you from mentioning her previous twitter thread and that was the one I brought up where she says you weren't malicious. 15:19 - She didn't say major sub loss. She said she lost a lot of subs, and that could mean anything. It doesn't dismiss my point that you mashed two things together to create a point which makes it come off as though you're lying and manipulating facts 16:15 - I was not saying she owned up to it like it was the end. I brought it up to show that you made a claim that was unsubstantiated. Nothing more. Nothing less. You complain about me not doing research as if I'm sweeping the times shes been bad on twitter under the rug or something, but I was arguing that, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF WHEN THE CONVERSATION OCCURED, that being November 9, She hadn't spoken about the drama in a major way on twitter at all since October 16, the date she gave to you, other than when apologizing, which again, she mentions. I'm not defending the bad Peaches has done in the current era and framing it like everything should've ended there, only that AT THE TIME, she was speaking the truth and only really commented on one video past that in a way that I'd say doesn't directly involve her. Coming once again to my criticism that you make tons of errors from lack of research and bias towards one opinion. This entire bit exemplifies another one of my criticisms of you. You either didn't understand what I meant or intentionally played dumb to make a point, and it feels like you either cut context or twisted words rather than making a genuine mistake. You also claim it as though I'm being Peaches white knight which I don't appreciate as you completely seemed to miss the point once again.

[@MarcoPolo-py4lv]

.....

[@Reesesoulant]

Um,im looking,and i cant really find your response Edit: i found it

[@justsomelochnessmonsterony8265]

Be cool to see a response and if you actually lied or not. Take your time though because I don't want a rushed video with possibly false evidence.

[@raccoonloca2586]

here ya go. Hey. So I didn't think there would really be a response to my video in the first place as I meant more as a friendly criticism video while pointing out many flaws. I still don't wish to cause any drama despite what you or others may think, but I'd still like to speak on this without a full on video response. From the start of my video, I say I don't mean anything malicious in what I say and that holds true for this comment, but I do want to point out all it is you've gotten wrong or seemingly deflected as I was quite displeased with the video as a whole. Going point by point: 1:03 - From your opening point, it feels like you're deflecting. Your content is indeed the opinion you put out there, but that doesn't mean there's no ability to add naunces to said videos. You can go indepth on a topic if you like, work on visuals, try to do more research than others to add something to the conversation. It doesn't mean you have to change the core of what you stand for. I only included that bit about standing out for the sole purpose of showing you barely bring anything to the table and therefore are only really coasting off the topics you cover, and eventually that leads to burnout or stagnation in subs when dramas dry up or time and time again it's found you can't add anything and people pass you by. When you don't add anything to make you stand out or add to anything being stated, people lose interest. 1:23 - No. My point wasn't about having a different opinion. It was about adding to a situation in any way possible. This could mean looking where others wouldn't for information, asking for interviews of people involved, getting other creators together for a massive collaboration of brains, etc, etc. I never say to disagree with something as serious as pedophilia if the accusation holds strong and has clear evidence, but in all honesty, with many claims such as ProJared, just regurgitating information can lead to dire consequences from cancel culture and so on, one of the points i bring up about you when you lack research and give bias opinions based on one set of evidence and no further questioning. 2:12 - You can compensate for a monotone voice through accentuation of words, phrasing, and so on. I give tips about this later in the video. When I speak about trying to be funny or informative, it isn't saying you need to be either necessarily. It's more of a suggestion for making your content more interesting/engaging by adding something that people can want to watch the video for. I also mention having a good mix of the two or how an interesting personality can help plenty. 2:48 - This is strawmanning. I compared you to Keem and Scarce over regular commentators since you lack clear opinionated thought and mostly regurgitate what others say while only looking on the surface level, but then I refute that partially by saying I shouldn't compare you when Keem has much more of a personality. The strawmanning bit comes in when you insinuate it's fine for you to not go deeper than the surface level by bringing up "icarly and pornhub" as if that's your main brand of content. You've gotten info wrong about Cosmo, Antoons, Pyro, Peaches, and more, all things you covered seriously and consider major matters. If those don't deserve more indepth analysis because you could and did get it wrong otherwise, what is? 3:22 - I never said you can't cover trendy topics, far from it, but when you don't make it so you add anything, it feels shallow and just another video in a sea of people covering it. 3:43 - I say in the following sentence after saying it's alright to cover trendy subjects that I've done it myself 4:33 - I left out no context as it wasn't important to my point that they apologized. I said they made bad videos and they took them down. My only point in that scenario was to say you got it wrong in saying the two openly defended Tobi. Whether or not you felt it "seemed that way" doesn't count for much when you were outright wrong. The rest of the point you bring up about the whole Tobi drama is a nonsequitor as it doesn't have to do with my point. I didn't defend their videos in any way. Note at 5:32 - I know. That wasn't the statement I was making. I said that you said that JAR and co were trying to argue that Kai and Omnia called Tobi a pedo and that it's false. I then go on to say that yes, they did in fact say it was only by her own logic, but Manga Kamen also stated this, and you left out the context relating to that, thus making it seem like you intentionally cut it to make a point they weren't arguing. 6:56 - Manga Kamen isn't cutting context here. He states that he knows the two don't think she's a pedo, but that they should have worded themselves better in doing so to not be opened up to slander by others thinking they meant it in jest rather than by her own logic. Without that clip, it feels like they're just saying Kai and Omnia called Tobi something a kin to a pedo and then backed off. Do you see how many could think that's cut context? 8:49 - You say I ignore you stating that it's still suspicious that Antoons allowed it on his server to begin with, but you're looking at my point from the wrong angle again. I make it clear from the beginning I dislike and will never defend Antoons, and so if you want to criticize/call him out, you should have your facts straight, which you didn't and even admit to. I didn't leave out context, you're just once again adding something I never argued for or against. 10:13 - None of the tweets you've shown before nor now imply Peaches was friends with Tobi. I brought up that one tweet as it was the only definitive one I could see where she points out her relationship with Tobi, that being a negative one. You don't provide evidence to refute my claim here. I also know you didn't bring it up to be a dick. Again, you interpreted what I was saying completely differently from how I clarified it to be about, that being showing the things you've gotten wrong thanks to your lack of research and ease with sometimes jumping on bandwagons. 11:53 - Dude. "seeing a pattern" is by no means an adequate reason to call someone a suicide baiter by any means without conclusive proof. 12:18 - I had no reason to talk about pulling the bigger creator card at all as it didn't have to do with point at all and doesn't help your case for saying she baited suicide, was scummy for it, was only doing it to manipulate her audience, and several other claims which come off as quite despicable in hindsight and were irresponsible to make at the time. It all circles back to my point before. 12:56 - While adding this specific screenshot would sharpen your case somewhat that it could be seen as suspicious, something you don't even show in your original video from what can be remembered, that doesn't justify what you did AT ALL. It was scummy to do so. I do have a problem with suicide baiting, but only when you can know for certain that's what they're doing, and your basis was flimsy at best. 14:22 - You showed one other screenshot, and it doesn't directly state it was you, like I mentioned before. Whether or not she implied it, she didn't state it was you outright, and in the one case she name drops you, it goes in opposition to what you were stating, plus in another, she does directly imply you from mentioning her previous twitter thread and that was the one I brought up where she says you weren't malicious. 15:19 - She didn't say major sub loss. She said she lost a lot of subs, and that could mean anything. It doesn't dismiss my point that you mashed two things together to create a point which makes it come off as though you're lying and manipulating facts 1/2

[@oldmemes7378]

Where

[@KeyToWite]

Prison mate luke be like: "I didn't wanna make this video" In every video

[@simplicity4766]

Any youtuber that’s looking at something bad and wants to make themself look better: **sighhhhh** I really didn’t want to make this video :((((

[@47AdriRamiAKAETHG]

“I didn’t know I had to make this video”

[@D4NIELN00B]

"I'm hungry so i had to make this video so please subscribe"

[@WexyBooBooBear]

A lot of people do that Not just luke

[@kirbogames9664]

"i didnt think id have to come back to this topic"

[@aethrexxx116]

i dont trust him he has a criminal record

[@pozzsicle]

But you own a unnamed amount of guns. Kinda sus lmao. Edit: fml. Now no one will ge the joke ;)))

[@themyofmy]

is it bad I thought your name was a homestuck thing LMAO

[@mxpeanutthekakyoinlover5616]

*quickly throws away rest of body and runs*

[@yourpal-patine6515]

can't trust scoundrels

[@alovekok9044]

@Darksider .- the light side is better.

[@Austin-LA]

Basically, luke is a good example of why you should wait for full context on a subject before rushing in to make a statement on the issue. Being able to pump out content like Luke dose is amazing but it just fails in the end when the video is just soaking with misinformation and biased opinions.

[@Romancerofnone]

I 110% agree.

[@bloodbrawler1438]

I would say it's fine to upload everyday if you're churning out blogs, vlogs, gaming episodes, etc. But if you're going to cover news or controversy, its best to wait it out or when the contro reaches a halted peak (either by all parties not updating for a long time or its already ended), then you get to cover it.

[@drippeeboye607]

its a good cash sink tho lol

[@Austin-LA]

@@drippeeboye607 For a short period of time, when you start losing subs and views less money comes in

[@XsaviXander]

@Goddess Redina It ain't KZbin's fault Luke's pumping out garbage content full of dangerous misinformation. KZbin doesn't like that and if someone takes action against it, he can't do a thing about it.

[@max-gw5oi]

i never knew keemstar without a beard existed and i wish i hadnt found out

[@smashplayerofthewoomy2753]

Same

[@vecynical7319]

I screamed and wanted to cry

[@chompchompchangbin]

C U R S E D

[@shawnshock8651]

Wait that was Keemstar?!

[@sleepy_tears145]

I hate this lmao

[@TalesofanEnigma]

Just to tell you guys Luke responded by claiming that just a robot is racist without providing any proof at all. What a "gentleman"

[@ReddGier]

And his only reason for it was because he was doing "research" on him to respond to a response from a month ago... Without giving a response. Like... Wow. Prison Mate Luke? More like Petty Manipulative Liar, am I right?

[@CorporalTailsDude]

@@ReddGier exactly lol

[@LowIntSpecimen]

@@ReddGier don't trust him, there's a reason he's behind bars

[@shyguygaming3150]

I swear commentary has become just like politics. I hear someone say this, then I hear someone else say they're wrong, then I hear _someone else_ say that _they're_ wrong, but I don't know and don't care to find out what's going on behind the scenes, and I'm left wondering whodunit.

[@johnypeperwinkle6207]

Kind of like Stans, they get their information from friends of friends that is usually wrong information.

[@lemonadeaquarium]

The commentary community is a mess . Like they need to know that their words are almost always taken as the truth , they are like , the reporters of youtube , so I think they at least should research more and stop making drama out of everything . Their videos always cause more drama and in the end , I end up not getting the point of who is right or wrong :/

[@jeremygaming2287]

@@lemonadeaquarium This is why I can't stand it, it's just drama after drama. LSMark used to be a channel like this but thankfully he changed his content

[@GlitterSparkleGemstone]

That's a pretty good comparison. Both politics and commentary are known for hypocrisy and hostility. They divide instead of unify. Ironic how the commentators are infamous for criticizing people when they themselves are a hot mess. *Put your house in order.*

[@POP-nm1ix]

@陈俊峰 What did they do?

[@redhood8383]

I wonder how luke is gonna respond? im hoping for something civilized because he seems to be able to take criticism but you never know Edit:i saw that he posted about it

[@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955]

Nah I think he will take it

[@redhood8383]

@@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955 yeah i think so too but you never know like i thought mini ladd was a decent person sure he wasnt THAT funny but he seemed fine to me but then all that shit came out and i was honestly kinda shocked

[@_snekoraptor_1878]

That’s... not that same as someone accepting criticism. Oh nooo, someone thinks this content is not done well. Compared to literal illegal shit with MINORS. So that comparison is actually invalid lol

[@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955]

@@redhood8383 if he doesn't take it then that pretty much been hypocritical

[@redhood8383]

@@_snekoraptor_1878 all im saying is you never really know what youtubers are like its something i had to learn the hard way especially with the cobanermani456 situation that is being talked about

[@TheGreatMemer]

"Keemstar is at the least entertaining, he at least has a clear personality, he may fuck up stuff now and then and he's an asshole through and through but he wares it with a badge of pride." Best explanation of Keemstar EVER. Also Camila's poor name always gets butchered.

[@theoutsiderjess4869]

Yeah pretty much

[@playboycartisson2080]

I will say he is a bit entertaining at times doe can’t lie

[@jupiter5128]

Yes, driving someone to commit suicide and falsely accusing some people of being a pedo and being a rape apologist can be summed up to "just being an asshole". The cockroach doesn't deserve a platform.

[@TheGreatMemer]

@@jupiter5128 yeah he's gotten away with more than anyone else on this platform. He's grown to big and has too many fans making it hard for someone to try and cancel him

[@DiceSky]

@@jupiter5128 I agree! Also Keemstar has also allowed minors in his own watch in a car do drugs and bought/took them to a hotel which is creepy as shit and even he admits to this. Keemstar also try to doxx JustDestiny for petty reasons and he even admitted he did it because JustDestiny made him look bad when in reality keemstar made himself look bad when asking Justdestiny if he TOUCHES KIDS in a fucking interview! LIKE WHO THE FUCK ASK THAT! Also Keemstar assaulted someone in a video who clearly didn't want to fight. Keemstar really doesn't deserve a platform.

[@bojanglesfries]

Lukes problem comes from the fact that he pumps out videos like a factory every single day. He needs to slow down and do better research.

[@dieguitodieguito2145]

Naw it's much more than that, the problem with him isn't just that but the fact that 1: he doesn't care about context 2: incredibly bias especially when it comes to situations where it's still unfolding. 3: disingenuous 4: his content is boring 5: doesn't bother checking whether or not the things that he is saying is even substantial or true.

[@pieterjan131]

@@dieguitodieguito2145 6 : putting ads on sensiteve subjects like groming

[@sleepy_tears145]

exactly like why the fuck did I get a mcdonalds ad on the miniladd grooming video

[@marcoe.3314]

Optimus: Laughs in 8 videos a day.

[@ashleyleskov3032]

@@pieterjan131 Quick question: Didn't KZbin update their policy so that you might get ads whether you like it or not? I do know that they'll get ads even if they're not partners but I'm not sure about that part.

[@atomic-art]

his titles are misleading for example: a video called Terraria has a problem basically brings up drama from years ago and issues that barely make a ripple in our community. He also sounds tone deaf

[@Starry_Wave]

He also made really weird remarks that Just a Robot is supposedly a "racist" when in reality he made out of context jokes *three years ago*. I've never heard Just a Robot in a video saying he wants racial segregation to make a come back or how much he despises *insert race here*, and regardless of how people view his personal politics Just a Robot isn't some undercover KKK grand wizard. Prison Mate Luke simply craves drama and cancel culture more than any other KZbin commentator I've seen so far, even Keemstar knows better and that's saying something.

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

@@Starry_Wave I don't know who that person is so I'm not saying they are racist but openly espousing white nationalism is a pretty fucking low bar to clear. people can and regularly do lie about being racist.

[@thedeagster5197]

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 I've seen most of JARs videos and not once does he support the confederacy

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

@@thedeagster5197 all im saying is that racism is often more subtle than using slurs, again no idea who that person is so I don't wanna point any fingers.

[@thedeagster5197]

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 I'm also black and I tend to pick up on those kind of things but I get what you are saying.

[@ravindupadmanath2802]

Just stop teaches us that when you were discussing someone who did something shitty It's always important to make sure you have the information and efficient evidence to back up your claims and even when the person you know you did is wrong you shouldn't just make up random or exaggerated claims and expect your audience to believe them because the person is bad

[@nelmae6026]

Part of this situation taught me not to judge people easily because they personally find their content bad and leaving unnecessary comments that doesn't have anything to do with what they're trying to say :)

[@xavvyzach91]

He has done some good things for the community, for example with the streamline workshop situation, but his videos aren’t really that good. I do respect him as a person but I don’t enjoy his content.

[@eatingshelf6135]

@@mikeockhurts904 that’s exactly what I use them for

[@xavierarchie4272]

If you don't know what is happening in that community that he is talking about then I could get invested. Yknow like the Lui Calibre one.

[@oumardiop1]

i watch his videos a lot but its gotten to the point where i really just watch for the bioshock gameplay

[@thechefisacookin]

Facts

[@nerdyfan21]

@@mikeockhurts904 Basically how I view it lol

[@vendy-py7247]

I will admit, PrisonMateLuigi is just one of those commentary channels that uses letsplays for almost everything and slam a couple images for "some" context

[@coolspell]

PrisonMateLuigi

[@Arcecer]

why was luigi arrested

[@nohandlesavailble]

PrisonMateLuigi

[@dewlivewireftw]

This is BS! LUIGI WOULD NEVER BE ARRESTED, AND HOW DARE YOU SULLY MY RELIGION! I WORSHIP LUIGI AS MY LORD AND SAVIOR! THIS GOES AGAINST THE BOOK OF LUIGI SSAUSPERPFFJDHSUSISO-72939;!//782030;

[@TheInternetDuke]

Luigi was arrested?

[@zim6622]

I watch his videos for background noise, and don’t really listen to them that much. His videos are very boring, so boring that I have to be doing something else while watching. I never noticed the misinformation in his videos because I don’t really pay attention to them.

[@D4NIELN00B]

Yeah i watch his videos while playing gta 5 and i forget that his videos are playing...

[@londonlynch4631]

Destiny 2 farming is rough, so I get the background noise stuff lol

[@Doggieguts]

Same...he is just background for me tbh

[@olchan527]

I agree. Since then, his content got more mundane which causes me to stop watching

[@shawnshock8651]

Even then,I still feel that there are much better choices for background noise than nothing.

[@jorvon40000]

I feel like Luke is the kid who has never done anything bad or portrays himself like that he puts himself like he's better than the others atleast in my opinion

[@basin6119]

I agree I don't watch him alot anymore because He seemed like he believed that he was perfect.

[@jorvon40000]

@@basin6119 yeah I used to watch him but like he just seems stuck up and like he knows best and his opinion is better than yours

[@AshenOne865]

I never got that vibe from him, i think hes a nice guy.

[@the_smartest_kid9285]

Na hes chill, join his discord, he doesn't interact alot but the people are chill and if u have a problem, this video should bring up all points lol

[@jorvon40000]

@@the_smartest_kid9285 yeah it was a nice thing but admin let some people get away with alot of stuff

[@mintymins3534]

Lowkey I thought that I was being biased when I saw people who he covered saying Prison Mate Luke cut out context (like with Just a Robot's video on the Tobi drama which yes was bad but Luke still took out context for some parts). It's good to know that other people see he does that and it's not just bias.

[@brodienolegs308]

I have no legs

[@Ukuma_]

Do you want some?

[@brodienolegs308]

@@Ukuma_ yes

[@eatingshelf6135]

I yoinked them

[@brodienolegs308]

@@eatingshelf6135 why

[@brodienolegs308]

@Thot Patrol USA ok

[@BBWahoo]

Have you checked into the cobermani456 situation? He went AWOL a while a go, but he's been threatening girls online. Please contact vmeg17 for more info, they should tell you everything.

[@yomi.]

please No i support the idea But cobermani was my child hood i was devastated when i found out about it

[@xavierarchie4272]

Is this true? I'm just sad now. I loved him.

[@staticystars]

I didnt watch him growing up, but he at least owns the fact he did it, which is nice.

[@davelabonte7806]

Holy shit for real? I remember checking in on his channel awhile ago for nostalgia's sake but I never knew he was doing that.

[@redhood8383]

wait what? nooooo :(

[@eldonpalancon4067]

Alright so I can see why people may think his content is boring, but take in mind that he blew up so hard and fast that it may be possible that he took this into a rush, but I could argue that he talks about topics nobody really does specially in his recent videos, I get it, he fucked up, but there's a reason why he fucked up.

[@camanesis6003]

if you look at his recent videos about talking about things nobody else does they don't do nearly as well as content that rebounds off of other topics other people have already covered. He doesn't have enough of a personality to carry topics that aren't popular

[@EmmyBlubonic]

I personally like his content, and yours too. Hope he sees this.

[@looneyloaiza4419]

Yeah same here.

[@roxassora2706]

Same

[@cocobunny7454]

Same

[@jordanboyd5587]

Yeah, his content is pretty chill and that's why I watch him. It's nothing special, but it keeps me invested in watching his videos. Criticism is warranted toward him though, and I'll hope he can improve on his research or just make completely different content.

[@jaypadron6302]

He did. He made a response.

[@johnf.kennedy7683]

I prefer Luke's videos over other commentary channels because he gets straight to the point. I don't really care for editing or jokes. I just want to know what's going on. He also talks about topics that I don't see channels like yours talk about.

[@toaster7552]

Thats the exact reason I watch him too thanks Mr. President

[@ludvigsaflund1446]

Dude look out when you go to dallas, a guy is tryna kill you mr president

[@johnf.kennedy7683]

@@ludvigsaflund1446 Ah man :( i was hoping to go on a nice drive with my wife there. Thanks for the heads up.

[@kizilm5315]

Wear a helmet Please

[@dsimpson7476]

@@ludvigsaflund1446 You just created a time paradox!!

[@MalfunctionWhocares]

_"He barely ever tells jokes, tries to be funny, or even really accentuate his emotions for either comedic effect or just engagement with the viewer. So I can only assume he wants to be taken super seriously a majority of the time."_ I don't see a problem with this. I can't speak for others, but I personally like that his videos try to just stay on the point (even if he does screw it up). Similarly, I disagree with the "He should do something with the prison mate thing ala funny edits and side gags" idea. IMO, it's annoying trying to watch a video on a certain topic and the creator decides "Hold on I gotta shoehorn this joke/side character in for a funny moment". Also, I don't get what the issue with his editing is. Considering the point of his edits is just showing images and whatnot that correlates with what he's talking about, It doesn't seem that necessary for him to dazzle it up with animations of the images moving or whatever. Likewise I don't see an issue with him not using a facecam or an on-screen rantsona.

[@Adnamie]

I also dont really mind this, but the bigger problem here is that Luke doesn't even know much about the situation hes talking about, and when he makes mistakes he doesn't try to correct himself

[@whatteamwildcats4033]

@@Adnamie that's the problem, presumably. Jokes liven up the mood, entertain, and while they don't totally cover someone for making an error it's more forgivable if someone makes a mistake/has done bare minimum research if it's done in a way that's clearly more light hearted. If it's done in a matter that's serious, then bar is naturally raised and the person being serious is being expected to know their shit.

[@TheFellerHasAChannelGodDamnIt]

He was talking about how Luke's content does not differ from other channels. Obviously Luke's not gonna joke about the scenario.

[@Lobster_Soup]

I also agree with this, he just covers topics that are going on the internet. Making jokes during a videos doesn’t matter, I mean it’s fine if you do it or not but I don’t see a problem with Luke what so ever. I can understand that the mistakes he have made was either somewhat unforgivable or forgivable. And even some commentary KZbinrs don’t make jokes. Luke talks about serious topics and why would you make jokes while talking about a serious topic?

[@shawnshock8651]

The point is that there's really no draw to Luke's content in comparison to any other commentator. Also I just hate the argument that just because a situation is serious means that you have to talk about the situation seriously.

[@Jahsizzl9]

Prison Mate Luke is pretty good but his handling of the pyro situation was sorta shit

[@ghostwater9070]

Yeah, but i don't necessarily blame him as much since he's new to commentary

[@Yndratdnable]

Yeah but everyone handled it shit it seems.

[@Oakeedokee7]

He just apologised there, pretty good apology to be fair

[@stankfield9432]

Luke seems like a nice dude, he just hasn't found his footing yet, for now I'm going to stop watching him because his content isn't as enjoyable anymore. Hopefully Luke will take your criticism and grow from it.

[@bobjeezorham7658]

Yea, Prison Mate Luke has absolutely been messing up a lot. He makes a lot of problems potentially worse because of his inherent biases and hopping onto certain sides too easily. I feel he tries too hard to get a "Gotcha" moment, like when he called Ivory a clout chaser that's diminishing "real" victims.

[@kingpanda6155]

What if balls got hard too?

[@tiramisu7544]

The last part of this comment aged really badly or really well depending on how you look at it

[@bigorcaboyo5507]

@@tiramisu7544 Context for that?

[@tiramisu7544]

Lazeh Boiyo Pyro responded. Some are saying his response was good and that ivory was a clout chaser. Others are saying it was bad and pyro is hiding something.

[@magnus4752]

i think the only reason he blew up is that he mainly just covers people involved in harassment/sexual assault allegations, plus his near constant daily upload schedule just made his channel perfect for youtubes algorithms

[@GOFFBITZH666]

I’d personally go for the fact that he was white hot when everyone was shitting on Yandev for a while lol

[@magnus4752]

@@GOFFBITZH666 that too

[@arktis2653]

He defended a toxic moderator in his former server.

[@magnus4752]

@@arktis2653 out of curiosity, what's the story behind that

[@GOFFBITZH666]

@@arktis2653 Hol up, when?

[@zalduna]

My issue with him he succumbs to his emotions too much. And hops on a side way too easily

[@Saturnthroughstars]

This. He's too opinionated without giving the implications of his opinion much thought.

[@manicstatic370]

You guys haven’t seen many commentary channels, have you

[@Saturnthroughstars]

@@manicstatic370 Typically no, because I don't have time to listen to someone ramble about an issue I don't care about for 20 minutes.

[@callimara]

I definitely think Peaches wasn't lying about having suicidal intentions. The issue is that she shouldn't have been tweeting and should have taken her mental health more seriously.

[@franst3909]

Her twitter gone now so ok

[@dalek-trooper6557]

I used to wonder why the commentary community was so hated. A year later, and I'm realizing why. It seems more and more that a majority of commentary channels either jump to conclusions or spread misinformation. In the recent Pyrocynical allegations, (most, not all) commentary channels were siding with Pyro. Then Turkey Tom made his video and the Google doc, and these channels sided Turkey and Ivory. After Pyro made his KZbin response, many of these channels started to apologize towards Pyro, for spreading misinformation. If they had some patience, these youtubers wouldn't have made their mistakes. I personally prefer descriptive commentary over persuasive commentary. When some (not all) of these channels try to make a point, it's usually poorly constructed or they purposely leave out evidence. The only commentary channel that I watch anymore is Optimus, and even he had to apologize for his Pyro allegation content. A lot of these channels should just not make videos about serious stuff like this, unless they can make a good and fair point. This whole Pyro situation revealed a deep flaw in the commentary community, misconstrued and inaccurate KZbin Drama content. Sorry that I sticked to one piece of drama, but I think that's enough to prove my point. Ngl, there are some good commentary channels (e.g. Optimus, Just Stop and some others that can't think of). But with any other genre, there's some good, and a sea of trash. I do hope that these channels can make better content in the future though.

[@biffy.]

I agree, it has such a toxic background with the most bias opinions and fandom i’ve ever seen

[@dalek-trooper6557]

@@biffy. Yes, and a lot of people are out to get each other. It really is a toxic environment, and I can’t believe that I wanted to be a commentary channel at one point. Thing is, I only saw the good community channels, and not the sea of bad ones.

[@bluecayser1498]

And the thing is, pyro pretty much just reiterated his Reddit post but with some more context. Those channels had all the information, they just chose not to look at it

[@LoudRevised]

Just Stop waiting to see if anything’s wrong with PrisonMateLook: He’s just standing there, menacingly.

[@sarahschraff7453]

But these are substantial points

[@roxassora2706]

@pigeon Yes but Luke talks about serious issues so for him jokes may be off the table

[@joeleonhart559]

@@roxassora2706 and that's why his content is...subpar and doesn't exactly stand out from the rest

[@roxassora2706]

@@joeleonhart559 He just needs to follow the criticisms given

[@sansfourthreetwothreefourn1010]

@@roxassora2706 Ponder sprocket-An art commentator makes jokes while covering serious topics is quite popular while also being loved for their minimal mistakes and good work ethic when covering situations. I would recommend watching their content if you haven't already

[@CorporalTailsDude]

Prison mate Luke pretty much just tried to drag this video off of him by canceling JAR. You can tell me that he only made the video because he wanted to research into jar, but it's incredibly obvious that he's only trying to throw jar into the grinder. Jar deserved to get called out, but not when he was taking a health break. Edit: I mean there are things he can work on but not because he's a racist because he isn't

[@klutzspecter3470]

That and Prison Mate Luke fans are harassing Just a Robot and Luke is doing nothing but liking it on his twitter feed.

[@CorporalTailsDude]

@@klutzspecter3470 exactly and I've asked them to prove me wrong but they either just link this video which is inaccurate, or just continue to say he's racist without disproving anything I say to disprove them

[@cookiekun7595]

I think the Hopless peaches situation was the final straw for me. Yeah overall I though she was a shitty person but, I still felt like Luke should have definitely apologized for the false accusations he made against her. It's sad honestly.

[@Optclzr]

Wait which false one?

[@ReddGier]

@@Optclzr I think they're referring to the "suicide bait" accusation he made, which was extremely unsubstantiated.

[@bigforeheadman6786]

This isn't that important, but I remember that on his EDP445 video, he made EDP look worse by using a parody account from Twitter that claims to be EDP. He apologized for it, but it's just an example of how poorly he researches sometimes

[@Fixer_Su3ana]

Poor Research? That is fraud!

[@gunshyloo]

ah yes commentary channels still feeding on eachother like rats

[@retrorayman8356]

Yeah happens all the time

[@EDK-San51912]

That happens in every community

[@Venus03]

Well this is what happens when they don't have any drama to talk about

[@tythedrunkenthird-gendarkt3795]

He used the drama channel to destroy the drama channel.

[@klutzspecter3470]

on a commentary channel no less.

[@Lh0000]

Personally, I think he’ll improve as time goes on.

[@cocobunny7454]

Yeah me too I think Luke is a nice guy but I want him to improve and

[@xxshxx7271]

He is improving which is very good people are judging him too hard on this and expecting people to be right always, it's difficult to do this stuff all around the clock and stuff

[@dieguitodieguito2145]

Hopefully but even then when the criticism was being thrown at him started happening he didn't change his ways at all.

[@xxshxx7271]

@@dieguitodieguito2145 I'm only defending I'm in a low manner, and yeah while he may not change some stuff, he apologizes to people and tries to correct stuff as best he can

[@dieguitodieguito2145]

@@xxshxx7271 Yeah but when he makes the same mistakes over and over again can you honestly tell me that he really means his apology or is he just doing it just so it doesn't ruin his career or credibility.

[@ANDROIDAPEX]

It felt inevitability that someone was going to make a video like this on Prison mate Luke. With how much he's been messing up it only would focus more eyes on him.

[@nikkovalidor4890]

the best part of drama is not the drama itself, its the part where we all laugh at the people who jumped the gun

[@cheeseboi588]

The commentary community just all hate each other at this point

[@amyrosefan1883]

That’s why you should stay away from them and stick to non commentary videos

[@cynoflads]

His content is an overall meh when it comes to videos and oh God he needs a lot of work. Needs to get better info and needs to have a point. Hope he can take this criticism and fix himself.

[@ChristopherTom]

Great video. Hopefully Luke takes the criticism well and uses it to improve - he seems like an alright guy who just needs to add more flavor to his content and research better.

[@godzilla1051]

Oh, it’s you!

[@lollove9974]

True

[@gilbert3672]

Holy shizamabugaz did this age poorly

[@thediamonddream3233]

@@gilbert3672 haha yep

[@justaintfeelinit8742]

I don't hate him or his content but he is so desperate for content. He clings to EVERYTHING. No matter how small the drama is he'll make a video on it. He needs to learn to make a video because he wants to. Not for the sake of it

[@freddybear2005]

Prison Mate Luke really become Prison Mate Douche, didn't he?

[@theheavenlyfb4071]

Friendly reminder that Luke first defended Pyro, then when the doc came out he did a full 180 and instantly said he was guilty. He doesn't add anything to topics, he's like an audiobook for the Reddit post detailing the issue.

[@channel45853]

But a lot of commentary channels did that, why signal Luke out?

[@theheavenlyfb4071]

@@channel45853 I'm not singling him out specifically, the only reason I mention it is because this video is specifically about him. Other channels are just as guilty of it as he was, although I find the way he did it a lot more two-faced as he was quick to call Pyros accuser an attention seeker (paraphrasing) but the moment a document that was clearly positioned to paint Pyro negatively came out he didn't hesitate to throw Pyro under the bus without really looking it over carefully. He just sorta saw it, read it, and went "oh I guess he is a groomer then" without even trying to think about what has been said before.

[@blacksmoke6292]

@@channel45853 Probably because he Turkey Tom'd the thing. While Diesel Patches was on the same boat, Prison Mate Luke was really treating Turkey Tom's opinion as if it was fact and gave that vibe. "You better make a video response Pyro or we're gonna murder ya."

[@theheavenlyfb4071]

@Rund There's a difference between changing opinion and doing a full 180, you can tell by how he speaks. He's so confident that Pyro's accuser was just attention-seeking in his first video but all of a sudden one document which is full of questionable choices comes to light and he automatically believes the person. There's barely any sign that he's actually looked the information over outside of superficial readings on the matter.

[@ashmanchester2611]

@@theheavenlyfb4071 honestly his channel is more of a reaction channel then commentary. I don't think he's even taken responsibility for any of the negative things he's done or said about things he's gotten wrong in his videos. He just chugs along ignoring it and hoping people either don't know he fucked up or hopes that people will just forget it if he doesn't talk about it.

[@pawkichi]

tbh imo i think people go to him just to get some sort of information based on the drama. I subscribed to him around the start of the antoons drama just for information/to be more aware of what was happening if that makes any sense??

[@lafenetre9733]

I think that makes sense. I will admit that he used his newfound fame to spread info on Mandopony, which is good because most people didn’t know what was going on besides on TikTok and Twitter. But aside from that The other topics he usually talks about are already stuff people know about, and he doesn’t really add anything

[@nukclear2741]

@@lafenetre9733 I found out what miniladd did through him. It really came out of nowhere, one of my favorite youtubers doing something so sick, it caught me off guard.

[@Evielicious]

KOKICHI ILY

[@pawkichi]

@@Evielicious ILYT

[@hotelofall7422]

Prison mate poop.

[@eatingshelf6135]

Got em !

[@jacobwo4133]

I'm ashamed of myself that this actually made me laugh

[@EmmyBlubonic]

lmao

[@charbway]

😳

[@kyperactive]

And a year later, he is just straight up gone. Not a single thing since 7 months ago at the time of writing this. And honestly, good riddance.

[@nqk_0662]

He made a ‘’’’’’appolyg’’’’’’

[@ECT0PLASM-]

Honestly, what annoys me the most about him is that his fans constantly praise him for being "the most honest person in the commentary community" and put him on such a high pedestal when in reality his videos are mediocre at best.

[@ashmanchester2611]

I think they mistake his very sure of himself attitude and monotone talk as honesty.

[@TheInternetDuke]

I like Luke, but when he gets stuff wrong, he admits it. I don't think all of the statements he makes are true, he messes up on a lot of them. I hope he improves a little bit, and adds something to the controversies he talks about. Y'know, instead of saying: *guy said this about guy* *use evidence that has aleady been used* *guy bad, cancel him*

[@Venus03]

Every fan base does this, Lukes aren't any different

[@FEKana]

@@Venus03 That's not the issue. The issue is that they do it. We are aware that every fanbase has this.

[@olivia892]

Ngl i was like that for a time but since Just stop made the pyro vid and i finally understood the guy is just a biesd jackass

[@afx3]

Luke's content is definitely not the worst. But your criticisms are very valid, and I agree with the point that he has a tendency to bloat his subjects up for more effect. Noticed it myself with the antoons videos.

[@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006]

The commentary wars wages on.

[@Venus03]

Well the Pyro drama is dead now so they need to sacrifice another youtuber for the content grind

[@LoudRevised]

Oh boy, back to the commentary genre.

[@maiarustad5062]

THANK YOUUU I’ve been seriously bothered by his content for a while now, and really, really appreciate someone else validating my concerns with him. Also, I don’t know if he has a particularly young fan base, but his fans are especially passionate and take everything he says as true. So I hope this video reaches some of them.

[@quzack46]

his content is not my cup of tea , i usually leave it in the background while not doing anything productive , just like yours

[@joadarium9605]

Damn he's gonna need more than ice for that *BURN*

[@GlitterSparkleGemstone]

_ouch_

[@weebmcdonald8834]

Damn

[@DoctorTheo]

Wait, his channel was made in 2020? When he got recommend to me it felt like I was watching someone where the channel was at least 5 years old

[@markhirsch6301]

It's amazing how a little bit after this video prison Mate Luke made a video calling JAR a racist for three year jokes. He both didn't take your advice, but also did

[@GuyThatLikesYohane]

I don't get how Luke is so popular? His mic is horrible, his videos on drama are mostly just biased, and there are tons of better drama type youtubers than him.

[@kanyenorth380]

I think its because most of his content is on child groomers

[@user-in1gv1uh2v]

@@kanyenorth380 That's why I can't get invested into his videos. He says the same things in all of his videos talking about groomers. It gets old fast.

[@kanyenorth380]

@@user-in1gv1uh2v sometimes they are groomers that aren't getting much attention

[@user-in1gv1uh2v]

@@kanyenorth380 Like who? The ones I seen he talked about were already getting a lot of attention drawn to them. The only one I can think that wasn't was TheGameSlueth.

[@kanyenorth380]

@@user-in1gv1uh2v I guess Jason Diaz and Lucille are a few but there are more

[@asesino2094]

Kinda crazy to think this man is my age group of 15-16 and yet he makes awesome videos

[@humantrash1478]

I'm 15 and i can't talk in front of my class This dude is around 16 and he has a fuckin career end my existence

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

This dude sounds like he's thirty, and he's a year younger than me.

[@danteezy945]

Fr

[@BitchChill]

@@humantrash1478 I'm 16, and I can barely talk to my family members

[@shaunseegobind1407]

@@humantrash1478 fr im 19 and I can barely talk to people

[@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR]

Was my video about the Tobi drama bad? YES Does that give people the right to lie/get things wrong about me? NO I don't wish anything bad to Luke I just wish he would say sorry for the things he got wrong, and be more careful. I said sorry for a few things I did but people still bring them up in dramas that don't have much to do with me and not saying "by the way he said sorry." I thought we all wanted this to be over and move on but it seems to me that I'm the only one who did that. When people are mad at you they will take the least charitable interpretation they can, thanks to this video maybe people will see I just made a mistake and I wasn't trying to do a lot of things they claimed.

[@Luke-oo8lp]

Gg

[@MrVic-qu9qh]

Hi JAR hope you're doing well. :)

[@prof.laytonfan764]

Hey man, I always liked you’re commentary videos too. Everyone hits a rough spot every now and then, but I don’t think that should haunt you forever. You’re still fun to watch, no matter what you talk about

[@isaacdealencar2180]

sometimes I want jesus to come back and bring the power rangers and a flying george washington to fight keemstar and the evil bonzobuddy

[@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR]

@@prof.laytonfan764 thank you, I knew I would fuck up one day. I just wish people wouldn't keep pushing.

[@aira_riri_2]

I found him from the peaches drama and I'm glad the problems with his videos showed pretty quickly. The way he dismissed the suicide tweets as suicidebaiting when he didn't even know if peaches was being honest and when they didn't even mention suicide (I read it before hearing what he said and I thought peaches was talking about stopping uploading, not about suicide) was pretty gross and the way he behaved in his dms with her was also very telling. It seems like sometimes he just decides who he'll side with before having actual evidence and then assumes everything the person does is with ill intent, and I find that really annoying. I hope he sorts that out

[@LOON3Y_TOON3Y]

Perfect way to describe Luke? Bland.

[@dieguitodieguito2145]

Prison mate Luke is literally Optimus and diesel patches but some how even worse.

[@whatuh991]

Luke's videos feel so much like Backround noise. You agree with him but then again his videos are pretty boring. Just like how you like the music but it's pretty boring

[@starjumper]

I’ve watched a couple of his vids before but only as background noise and I don’t really remember them lmao.

[@weebmcdonald8834]

@@starjumper That's the best way to watch them in my opinion

[@shanestern1788]

This video, only a month old, aged like the finest fucking wine! Lol, fucking Sen is just clowning on him now. "Prison mate Sniffs glue", not to mention all of the good commentary channels are like "yeah, dude's a tard" lmao!

[@xavvyzach91]

Dont have notifications on but happened to check the subscriptions tab at just the right time squad

[@cryogenictendency4565]

The Hopeless Peaches segment was hair tuggingly frustrating to sit through, especially the mental health segment. That's pretty fucked up for him to just disregard mental health like that. Even if there's a possibility of faking it, you should take mental health seriously regardless

[@olivia892]

Like it doesn't excuse what she did yes But it doesn't mean he can act like shes faking it

[@cryogenictendency4565]

@@olivia892 exactly

[@bodypillowwaifu9941]

The sad part is how many people actually fed into that nonsense. I made similar arguments myself when it came down to that shit, and people got after me for saying that people shouldn't just assume their mental state. I even had some person try to say that a therapist said HP was faking her mental health, and that person refused to show evidence of said claim when I asked them for it. At this point, people are making low blow accusations in order to make HP out to be worse than she is, when they don't realistically need to do that.

[@hi-fe6ol]

ion think she shouldve posted that but ion like how he just assumed it was fake

[@sweetiespice1956]

I’ve made a mistake and I apologize for it

[@JackedThor-so]

Any mention of the (still ongoing) Tobi/Hopeless Peaches/Complete Art Commentary Breakdown batshittery gives me Nam flashbacks. The constant miscommunications and skewed perspectives and bad arguments and cut context and jumping-of-the-gun involved is mindbogglingly complicated. There are world wars less complicated than this BS. I'm happy that you came at it from a more neutral perspective (something not common) and were able to articulate what Luke messed up on and why. His place in the drama has clouded a lot of judgement, so seeing some suspicions confirmed by an outside source / fresh set of eyes is appreciated. Been here since, like, 40K and I'm ecstatic to see you flourishing!

[@Cinko420]

Noah Ariss Wait, it's still ongoing? Oh dear.

[@JackedThor-so]

@@Cinko420 oh... you have no idea. Here's a brief bullet point summary of everything that's taken place since Spoctor made his all-encompassing video: * JAR made and "apology" video where he claimed he'd take the L on his bad video - only to reiterate every claim made verbatim and excuse many of Harsh's mistakes while condemning Omnia and Kai for theirs *the whole Hopeless Peaches thing blew up, many creators being directly lied about / antagonize by her *she responded horribly and The Hot Box ripped her arguments to shreds *Omnia burned bridges between her and JAR in a video after she found out Hopeless Peaches helped edit JAR's video (how extensively is unknown currently) and relabeled their video as a hit piece * Thumin made her own video following up on the situation, not buying anything from Peaches or JAR (it didn't add that much to the conversatuon) *and now MangaKamen and JAR are insisting Omnia jumped the gun calling out Hopeless Peaches editing the video script, saying she did next to nothing and that Omnia was impulsive and malicious to make those statements *Peaches continues to bleed support and credibility by the day *Junkie has a video coming out soon with even MORE previously unknown shit regarding the drama. That is the SHORT version, with more crap I'm probabally forgetting. 😱 When will it cease???

[@lavishlylavender9472]

@@JackedThor-so Also apparently Tobi is going to make a video about the Hopeless Peaches drama.

[@JackedThor-so]

@@lavishlylavender9472 really? Where / when did she say that?

[@lavishlylavender9472]

@@JackedThor-so I believe it was on her Instagram? I saw screenshots on Twitter.

[@user-jl7cz2pe6d]

He has serious potential. I really hope he improves. I used to watch his content until I saw that Game Grumps video...

[@daxter1376]

I actually enjoy Luke very much, although yes he’s not inherently a comic or one of the very best commentary channels I enjoy the videos since they’re easy ways to get a rundown of what drama is taking place with no bullshit or rumors. Although he makes some poor assumptions with people such as ivory during the cynical drama he’s still a very good channel to understand the drama and or figure out what the sides are without an added fuel to an unnecessary fire or a false rumor (although he has possibly done so but I’m not sure he’s attempting to plant false evidence) swaying you to a side or not. It’s very “here’s the drama” without the bullshit. Or atleast that’s what I see it as, he’s become a lot of peoples favourite commentary channel and I understand your dislike for the content and handling of topics by him but to people who have never really been involved or seen commentary channels as well as popular drama he’s a really good introduction. But he’s a good account overall whether the contents for you or not, but I agree with most of what you say he’s got a lot to learn given he’s just entered it all. Great vid!

[@daxter1376]

Extra note I am not an insanely analytical person, I am just attempting to give an insight as to why people enjoy him.

[@joshnelson1279]

Thank you for continuing to keep a level-head in your commentary, Just Stop. It's really refreshing to see in our current culture.

[@apocpd762]

I'm incredibly impressed by how you take these, good job man.

[@tilly_loo]

I gotta say, I absolutely love the videos so far. Your uploading a lot!!! I'm very excited to see what's next :)

[@Dragular]

I honestly think he's learned nothing. Luke's gone on to do the same crap again.

[@Dragular]

@Alexander Edwards And as usual everyone laps up to it.

[@ReddGier]

@@Dragular gotten to the point where someone said if I didn't side with them, then *I* was racist.

[@Dragular]

@@ReddGier Damn. That's terrible. Someone called me a Just A Robot Stan simply because I stated why he isn't racist.

[@ReddGier]

@@Dragular they're all ravenous sharks that smell blood in the water. Soon they will learn that it was Luke's blood all along.

[@ReddGier]

Also fun fact: I'm 90% sure that they reported my response to that as spam and had it swallowed by the ether.

[@mikaroni_and_cheez]

Useless fact: luke started his channel on my birthday

[@lollove9974]

Happy way to early birthday

[@itsclemtime2357]

I agree with the top comment, I also “listen” to Luke’s videos while I play games/study. I’ve never actually noticed how much misinformation and lies are in these videos. I’m definitely unsubscribing from him. He definitely needs to do better research and word his content better.

[@shelfdog64]

The problem with commentary channels is that it’s a massive bandwagon constantly switching sides and ideals

[@RikaRieGaming]

Agreed and they act like they never made mistakes and if you called them out they act like the people they made videos on.

[@seniormoros_rose6402]

THANK YOU Just Stop , finally someone is calling this content as bland as Oatmeal.

[@xavierarchie4272]

I didn't realize he surpassed you in subscribers. I personally think you deserve more though. Keep going my guy

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

*I didn't realize he surpassed you in subscribers* Me: Ah, there it is! Lol I hate being right 😈

[@m0x_o]

holy shit FINALLY someone makes a video abt this guy lmao

[@Justjustin7093]

These kind of channels feasting upon themselves is always a sight to behold

[@Snow-dv7hx]

I watch his videos sometimes, with his Pyrocynical videos, he just switches opinions as soon as one new piece of possible evidence comes out.

[@lafenetre9733]

I think he has this sort of idea that he has to make a video about EVERYTHING that has been going on with any type of drama, and therefore he doesn’t wait it out long enough to see what ends up happening

[@TCv3]

idk, I thibk its important to adapt to situations as new information comes out. I dont think its a problem of "he switches sides too easily" as much as it's he should maybe wait for situations to develop further before making videos that could influence public opinion one way or another, especially with unclear situations

[@richardfierro2699]

I don't think that's that bad. It's kind of shitty, but he's willing to adapt to the situation depending on the evidence on hand and new evidence that is being introduced. It'd be terrible if he kept the same opinion regardless of what new game changing evidence got introduced into the mix.

[@lafenetre9733]

@@richardfierro2699 thats true, he just should probably wait a bit longer instead of making a video the second a new incident occurs

[@richardfierro2699]

@@lafenetre9733 I agree completely. He blew up out of nowhere, so I think he might feel a little overwhelmed/feel obligated to put out as many videos as possible. I love watching him, but I just wish he could hold off for a minute and do deep proper research rather than having to make a video apologizing for his mishandling of a situation.

[@Eric_BroArmy13]

I also think that due to his channel blowing up so fast, it looks like he is kind of treating the process of making a video as an obligation. Now that more than 100k people are watching him, he's certainly feeling the pressure. He seems like a nice guy and so, I hope he takes everything that JS said in this video to do better.

[@frogglen6350]

Pyro is innocent. Now this is the part where the commentary community temporarily turns on each other

[@fatboyred]

He made another oopsie in his Just a Robot video.

[@ushakova3101]

Luke's content feels like a guy just giving a rapid fire rundown of recent drama topics for people who don't keep up and then people go and look deeper into it if they're interested. I've noticed he often links other creators who touched the topic on the deeper end rather than going into it himself.

[@voicelesstalent5426]

I remember I left a comment on one of his videos saying I didn’t like the way he went with them, not the subjects he chose, and a couple of his fans started to give me shit for it.

[@commandercat10]

Man that sucks dude I never heard of this Luke dude

[@nukclear2741]

As a fan of Luke, I’m sorry it happened.

[@pearbear6418]

Laughing at JAR flocking to any vid criticizing Luke cuz he's still pissy that he called him out.

[@iamacey]

JAR is literally no better than Luke lmao, his content is boring as hell and adds literally nothing to the conversation

[@illuminaticake4528]

@@iamacey who's ja- oh just a robot

[@grabmynuts]

I- okay that was funny and I like all 3 of these cool human beings lmao

[@littleplague5988]

Right now his comment is above yours 😂

[@JUSTAROBOT_AKA_JAR]

I left a comment on 2 videos about him from 2 people I'm subbed to. The other was Tom

[@hoyt-4781]

This is why I like JS so much. I'm not gonna act like I absolutely admire him because it's no question that it'd creep anyone out, but it's still no question that he's being a great guy by informing everyone about the misdirecting content and even a way to help Luke improve.

[@bruuuuuuuhh]

if Monday could talk, it would sound exactly like Prison Mate Luke.

[@besacho1808]

its great that your channel is growing

[@babycat0619]

never watched him but he was all over my recommended page like summertime

[@MineralGarbage]

Yeah the fact that people assumed because Harsh was tobis friend because tobi kept promoting the vid and she had no favoritism. It was so messy

[@oldchannelnewoneisinaboutp3726]

things like this are why you are my favorite commentary channel. you try the hardest to be unbiased, you put effort into editing, you do good research, and you try to give people the benefit of the doubt and consider all sides of a situation. I expect your channel to blow in the near future.

[@weebismgod]

Thank you for this video!

[@frederickthegamer3044]

Prisoner Luke to me sounds condescending and sounds like he REALLY doesn't care about the topic and I am not noticing it more and more plus I agree that he could use the whole prisoner aspect and honestly again looking at things now I noticed that his videos seem very bland

[@Ollie_04]

Luke's videos feel like something an auto generator would make. JAR has more personality than Luke and he's a goddamn robot!

[@Murr248]

Also Antoons is trying to Strike back again. He's made a 2 hour long video that twists the Drama HE caused

[@cjthrasher5603]

Yup I saw antoons vid he made art of him spanking just stop

[@Just-a-random-guy.]

Aiden Frost Did I read that right?

[@cjthrasher5603]

@@Just-a-random-guy. yup u did he really did that

[@Estelle434]

@@Just-a-random-guy. yes you did

[@NguyenPham-bv7my]

@@cjthrasher5603 wait what?

[@phonetheory7056]

The guy never really rubbed me as trustworthy in his videos, which is why I always watched them with a grain of salt.

[@liamzakhaev]

the biggest problem with commentary channels is how all of them attack each other in a never ending feedback loop because none of them like the idea of competition or coexistence, throwing shade at each other while pretending to be polite and civil for the most part.

[@bodypillowwaifu9941]

Not all of them are like this. There's quite a few of them who are in tight knit community. The problem is that you have a few that are either problematic, don't like each other, or do know each other well enough to care. They work like your typical social setting with some slightly professional vibes to it. You're always going to have those people who don't like each other, or are just down right problematic. XD

[@liamzakhaev]

@quotetheraven90 you are gatekeeping shitty human behavior. how does that feel?

[@liamzakhaev]

@quotetheraven90 funny

[@TheSharkAnt]

After watching your second video on PML and seeing how flawed his content is, I now cringe at myself because of how dumb I was. But now that I've actually seen THIS video, you get my awkward antisocial hand wave of approval! 🤚👋🤚👋🤚👋🤚

[@KillzoneV]

I watched Luke when the mini ladd situation was going on and watched him head on. I didn't know about the Tobi and Hopeless peaches drama, and I didn't had a twitter at the time so I took Luke word. Looking now it's really bad how he cuts info or doesn't put much. I did a video on him on the Pyro situation, cause K felt it was fair he screwed up more than enough

[@randoshmuckarias1296]

I mean it makes good background noise. Its the fast food of commentary we know its unhealthy but still eat it