Prius "B" Mode Explained

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jettlash1000

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Showing "B" mode in a 2016 Toyota Prius down a steep hill.
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@thatcarguy1UZ
@thatcarguy1UZ 3 жыл бұрын
The “B” setting allows the drive motor to continue to produce reverse torque by being used as a generator, and the electricity generated is used to drive the engine via the motor alternator. This effectively allows the engine to be used as a brake and regulate vehicle speed. The engine is spun at high speed with no fuel being injected, using it as an air pump to dissipate the momentum of the vehicle. It will also charge the battery but when you run out of capacity to charge because the battery is full, it will use the engine to dissipate energy. The engine kept running and didn’t go into EV mode right away because it cooled down by processing air without combustion. If you were driving down a long steep grade in “D” the car will fill the batteries up to 100% and then you will be using friction brakes which can overheat if the grade is long and steep.
@bennri
@bennri 3 жыл бұрын
It's basically the same as L gear. B stands for Engine Braking. If the battery isn't fully charged, it charges the battery too.
@ibeatmycatandmydog9322
@ibeatmycatandmydog9322 2 жыл бұрын
So should I use b instead of braking when possible
@thatcarguy1UZ
@thatcarguy1UZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibeatmycatandmydog9322 Not normally. Most braking is still done by recharging your batteries in the normal driving mode. If you are in the mountains or a long very steep hill then it would be useful, just like using low gear to descend a steep grade on a conventional car. In B mode the generators charge the batteries but also “waste” energy by spinning the engine with the fuel turned off and using it as an air pump for “compression braking” to save wear and more importantly heat buildup in your brakes. This is not necessary in normal conditions.
@thatcarguy1UZ
@thatcarguy1UZ 2 жыл бұрын
@Andrew H No, your battery will recharge faster with regular regenerative braking. However, as stated previously, if you are descending a long steep grade, the B mode will consume extra energy by spinning the engine in order to slow your descent down a long hill. If you use this function in normal driving, some of the energy that could go to your batteries will instead go to turning the engine when turning the engine is not needed. The only time this would be advantageous is on a long hill descent where the battery will recharge to over 80% before you reach the bottom of the hill. In this case turning the engine as a dynamic braking load instead of engaging the friction brakes will allow you to control your descent speed without overheating the brakes.
@UmmYeahOk
@UmmYeahOk 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatcarguy1UZ so how does “b mode” work in full EVs? (Not hybrids). I have this exact shifter in a 2014 RAV4 EV, and have accidentally driven miles with B mode engaged not knowing anything other than the fact that the cruise control won’t work. Took me several months to connect the two. It doesn’t seem to brake much. After discovering what it really was, I tried to use it like I would with the Chevy Volt, and apply it when stopping.
@Driver6M
@Driver6M 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of manufactures have a CVT transmission but the transmission in the Prius is a completely different design. There is no belts, it's a variable transmission based on planetary gears with the ratio being changed by the difference in speed of the Prius' separate electric motors which drive different parts of the gearset. It's a fascinating piece of technology.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detail on this!
@130rapid
@130rapid 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, no other transmission type has so few moving elements & so much abilities.
@tinyroomedits606
@tinyroomedits606 7 жыл бұрын
🐙🐍🐲🐈
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 7 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Calling it a CVT is a bit misleading, because it is an entirely different design. One gasoline engine, and two electric motors are connected to the drive wheels, through a planetary gear-train which functions like a differential in reverse; When they are pulling in unison, full power is transferred to the wheels, but when the electric motor is running at a different speed to the gas engine, a gearing ratio is achieved, to allow the gas engine to run at more efficient speeds. In fact, "neutral" is never actually neutral, because the motors and engine are never disconnected from the drive-train; the electric motor compensates for the gas engine in whichever direction it needs to turn, to allow no torque to go to the wheels, allowing it to roll.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice description, thank you for taking the time to provide some more input!
@juancuevas5847
@juancuevas5847 6 жыл бұрын
4:14 B mode
@dipenbhuva2061
@dipenbhuva2061 3 жыл бұрын
God's man
@Koover88
@Koover88 7 жыл бұрын
B" mode is also fantastic for snowy downhill driving. It just slowly grips it's way down the road without having to use foot braking which is where most skids start. Getting some good winter tires and using the prius technology to your advantage can make this car VERY good in the winter.
@waltfromphilly6563
@waltfromphilly6563 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification of the "B" mode. I have a 2007 and always wondered. Bought it new and currently have about 125k on the odometer. Just wondering if the lower glove compartment lamp is normally ON whenever the headlights are on.
@Areya-Sunshine
@Areya-Sunshine 5 жыл бұрын
Great to know! The Prius is also quite good on ice in general, even without B mode. My 2016 Prius had its first test on ice last winter when I had to drive on a back road that was a complete sheet of ice. Normally, I would have just glided over it and not turned the wheel, but this road was downhill and curved so I had no choice but to brake and pray. The Prius performed amazingly. Basically the anti-lock braking system kicked in right away when I gently hit the brakes, and it pumped them the whole time we went over the ice. It was nice and smooth (just sounded scary) and I was even able to turn without skidding once. I think the Prius knew to do this because it could sense the tires losing traction and so it pumped the brakes to help regain traction. And I didn't even know I could use B mode to help in snow so I might try that next time!
@Maximonious
@Maximonious 5 жыл бұрын
Just experienced this today. CO is getting a pretty good winter coat.
@bhaddock9277
@bhaddock9277 5 жыл бұрын
Was a passenger in a Prius on a road freshly covered with snow. Had hard time explaining "B" mode to the driver. I suggested using the "B" mode to trim off excess speed rather than braking, especially while turning. At low speed was all too easy to slide into another vehicle while negotiating through a neighbourhood with narrow roads, random parked cars and changing gradients. Got earfull for being too technical.
@mr.russerzplace...1448
@mr.russerzplace...1448 Жыл бұрын
And b mode will charge vape pen and prius battery same time!!
@joakimspetz7745
@joakimspetz7745 4 жыл бұрын
B-mode is an option to waste energy in the form of using the gasengine to compress air. This does helps to slow down the car. The passive regeneration is about 2x as strong in B then in D (no foot on break). So you are charging your battery 2x as much. Problem is that the car is loosing speed from compressing air as it is enginebreaking. This will make you get less total energy into your battery compared to just keeping shifter in D-mode and apply a little pressure on the breakpedal. This way you are only using the rechargegenerator to slow down your car and are able to get maximum charge from the downhill. Note that you should not go to close to maximum on the charge bar. As the bar gets closer to maximum it starts to softly apply frictionbrakes wich lead to heat instead of battery charge. So in ECO standpoint B-mode should be avoided. As others said B-mode is usefull when battery is fully charged and still going downhill and in winter to get some free engineheat from enginebreaking friction to reducing the engine ON-times at redlights and slow speed driving that in summer normally is done in EV mode. Forced engine running is due to heatsettings. Turning heat off will allso turn gasengine off (if engine is 60+ degres celcius). So dont waste kinetic energy with enginebreaking when you have regenerative breakes. Non hybride cars can save brakepads by using enginebreaking.
@brianmef71
@brianmef71 2 жыл бұрын
I like how some people talk a lot thinking they know it all when they don't. 😂
@joakimspetz7745
@joakimspetz7745 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianmef71 Ok, then go ahead and drive with B mode all the time if you think it is the best way to save fuel.
@kg4tnp
@kg4tnp 3 жыл бұрын
MG1 actually spins the engine up during B mode to create drag on the drive train. The engine is not actually producing power, the injectors are off. The main reason not to use B mode during normal driving is it causes the engine to spin and places a electrical load on the system. The hybrid ECU also normally tries to prevent 100% charge as the batteries last longer if not charged all the way to full.
@waltfromphilly6563
@waltfromphilly6563 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the "B" mode. Bought my 2007 Prius new and never used it before. Still on original brakes, Four new tires, couple change outs of wiper blades, three headlamps, and one new battery. Most reliable vehicle (besides my '97 Chevy S 10) I've ever owned.
@orange_lada2119
@orange_lada2119 7 жыл бұрын
This video could have been 20 seconds long.
@Orwellwascorrect
@Orwellwascorrect Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tediousv1461
@tediousv1461 Жыл бұрын
100% and was the “B” ever even defined? I fell asleep. I think it means battery. Fill up battery. Bumps up the idle. Should’ve been the video title
@Koover88
@Koover88 7 жыл бұрын
"B" mode is also fantastic for snowy downhill driving. It just slowly grips it's way down the road without having to use foot braking which is where most skids start. Getting some good winter tires and using the prius technology to your advantage can make this car VERY good in the winter.
@abyssunderground
@abyssunderground 7 жыл бұрын
When the battery is full and you say the engine is still running, it's because it can't regen any more energy to the battery so the engine has to take over the braking instead. It's a clever system and has its uses, but I've not had to use B mode myself as my area is fairly flat.
@cutflow2
@cutflow2 3 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to use b mode to slow down on the highway when the traffic up ahead is slowing down or still
@abyssunderground
@abyssunderground 3 жыл бұрын
@@cutflow2 It's not desirable, but you can if you want to. Instead you should use regen to slow down and recapture as much energy into the battery as possible for best fuel economy. B mode is for long hill descents not for general stopping.
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
@@cutflow2 does the engine come on with "not full" battery? prime? in B mode?
@SabreLeonheart
@SabreLeonheart 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, good stuff brother. I'm the opposite - I drive 99% of the time in PWR Mode. I love how much more fast it can accelerate and I it goes immediately without me having to push down too hard on the pedal.
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I use B mode frequently on my 2004 Prius. (I'm the original owner.) Thanks to that and other practices (like trying to coast to a stop at traffic lights) I will be having the brake pads & shoes replaced for the FIRST TIME at the 200,000 mile service interval in a couple of months. * The engine may sound like it's running, but it is not. The vehicle is using the engine compression, without fuel, to help control the speed. It's the same as downshifting in a conventional transmission but keeping your foot off the gas. * My car manual says not to use B mode above 40 mph. Later models may be different. * My father-in-law had a small Farmall tractor from the early 1950s with a CVT transmission. So does my wife's 2003 Saturn Vue.
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
2020 manual..."When the vehicle is driven at high speeds, compared to ordinary gasoline fueled vehicles, the engine braking deceleration is felt less than that of other vehicles. p. 345
@manjotsandhu9539
@manjotsandhu9539 7 жыл бұрын
I am an uber driver in Seattle bought prius at 0 miles maintaining it since then properly now it's at 170k one problem windshield wiper motor, other than that no problem no engine check light. same engine as yours 1.8l. I use b made going down the hill it charges your battery plus helps you with good mileage. car had plenty of power it can top out 125mph easy. awesome car. The b mode is actually engine braking I don't recommend on very steep hill. With b mode you can always charge your battery 100%. I have been doing it since I have owned it. I still get between 45 to 50 mpg
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
That is awesome to hear! I love hearing about the reliability on these cars being so good. That was one of my top reasons for purchasing.
@robertgarrison5478
@robertgarrison5478 5 жыл бұрын
Did you replace the wiper motor
@ArroyoAirsoft
@ArroyoAirsoft 6 жыл бұрын
Depending on the vehicle's speed and the battery SOC (state of charge), the Prius will do this using regenerative braking and/or high-RPM zero-fuel-flow engine braking. ... Just as you might downshift into 2nd gear when going down a long, steep hill to prevent brake damage, you can "downshift" into "B" mode on a Prius.
@k30v6xxzeapm
@k30v6xxzeapm 2 жыл бұрын
You have 3 means of braking - regen, friction and engine braking. When you use B mode, it not necessarily means that you are regenerating better. Most of time its better to use D-mode and apply brake pedal slightly, as long as the CHG range is not exceeded. B-mode is OK for really steep hills and loaded car. It also automatically uses the B mode, when the battery is full. Tested yesterday when driving downhill from large hill. Of course its stupid to worry about high rpms, its made to do this!
@FishingWithMichaelTruong
@FishingWithMichaelTruong 6 жыл бұрын
I use B mode on my gen 2 Prius for emergency breaking situations or going down steep hills and needing to apply additional break force.
@nsshing
@nsshing 3 жыл бұрын
It's also good in traffic, save a lot of work to put on the brake.
@danielbaboiu2288
@danielbaboiu2288 Жыл бұрын
The effects you see are not unexpected. Usually, the B-mode is interpreted as "extra regenerative mode", but this is wrong. The Toyota manual states that the B-mode "applies engine braking", not "regenerative braking". After some digging, I found that in B-mode the gas engine is coupled to the wheels, like in a regular engine brake, but without being fed with gas; internal friction and air compression act as brake, wasting the energy that can not be regenerated (need more braking than can by applied by regeneration, battery is full, etc.). I don't remember where I read that, but it makes perfect sense with what you observed: 1. Around 5:30, before you shift into B, regenerative braking is quite strong, as seen in multi-info display; dropping in B-mode, while barely gaining any speed, the regeneration gets rather low. 2. You hear the engine being on, but the hybrid display shows that it does not generate energy -- consistent with engine in motion, but not consuming gas (instant MPG is over 100). The B-mode is useful in two cases: 1. You need more braking than can be provided by regenerative braking 2. Your battery is full, but you still need braking; regenerative braking can't store any more electricity. Short version, in B-mode, braking energy is wasted, not regenerated, which is why you are advised not to use it. The guys using it all the time will get worse overall mileage because of this.
@consumercellc1109
@consumercellc1109 2 ай бұрын
That's not true, B mode turns the regen on full blast. If you have an app thats monitors your battery you will see how quickly the amperage jumps up and the voltage reaches full charge after just a short time on B mode.
@mattwernecke2342
@mattwernecke2342 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am an Uber Driver. I just picked up a 2014 Prius 2. The money, that I am saving in gas, pays my note. I had rider today ask me about the B drive.; I had no idea! Thanks so much! Best, Matt
@lin498
@lin498 7 жыл бұрын
Hi JL. Got my own Prius now and really enjoying it, thanks for all the useful advice you've passed around. BTW, in B Mode going downhill the engine turns over to provide mechanical friction braking without burning any fuel. This is like a typical has engine coasting downhill doesn't use fuel, but the Prius in B Mode will not overcharge the battery from regeneration. I hope this helps you and your many followers to understand the Synergy motor better. Happy Thanksgiving to our American cousins from UK with best wishes for the Holidays.
@allenfischer6472
@allenfischer6472 7 жыл бұрын
I've had my 2016 Prius for seven months and love it and almost have 30,000 on it now, I do a lot of driving. About 5000 miles a month
@readhead12
@readhead12 6 жыл бұрын
I normally never use the B mode. Unless it's very steep. You can just press the brake pedal gentle and it will regen as much as it can. If the battery should get full, the car automaticaly activates the "B" mode, even when you are in drive mode. Because the battery is full it needs the engine to simulate braking.
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
not too sure about auto B mode? mmm
@MBarram
@MBarram 3 жыл бұрын
Prius isn't using a CVT transmission as used in other vehicles. The Electric Motors (2 of them in non-awd versions) are used as generators when not in use. B-Mode forces the Electric Motor into Generator mode increasing induction to the drive-shaft and slows down the wheels/car. The generated energy gets stored in the battery pack. The fact that this car is not using a conventional transmission or CVT and the inline configuration of all 3 motors - petrol engine and 2 E-motors make it possible to use this car even when the battery will go bad. The Prius drive system uses e motors to keep the petrol engine in a sweet-spot for rpm and drive-shaft load using advanced electronics resulting in good fuel economy. Watch as reference "Niels Blaauw - Prius Hybrid Drive Explained". One reason why the Prius is mechanically a reliable car: simpler "transmission", no conventional starter motor, engine running at ideal load and rpm. Keep fluids right and you will enjoy a great car for a very long time (ps don't forget to change the air intake filter for the batteries)
@meletispogkas1475
@meletispogkas1475 7 жыл бұрын
its not only the transmission that is breaking the car but also the high compression ratio of the prius engine (13:1 rather than 10:1 in a regular otto engine) witch produces a "bigger" vacuum in the cylinders as the pistons are moving downwards.
@chriscorbett9196
@chriscorbett9196 6 жыл бұрын
Decent video but there is far more to B mode on an engineering level if you understand and have been trained on the transaxles in these cars. You mention that you don't understand why the gas engine is running and that there is no reason for that when in B mode. The gas engine is ALWAYS going to run in B Mode and there is a very good reason for it. Each motor generator in the transaxle is operating in "reverse mode" or "regenerative braking" mode when you engage B mode. Your main propulsion MG is always going to be in regen braking mode when off throttle and in D (at least in gen 2 Prius), but in B mode, all MGs go into regen. This means that each stator winding in the transaxle (ex MG1 and MG2 windings) that sits around the permanent magnet rotor that makes the motor generator is grabbing DC current from the HV battery and passed back to the stator windings of each MG. By passing this current through the windings and inducing a magnetic field in the motor generator due to the permanent magnet spinning, it does two things....it makes the motor generator much harder to spin thus acting as a brake...and it also produces electricity. The car has to do something with the power that has been created, either use it or dissipate it. If the computer determines that the power is not needed and the HV battery is charged at the time, assuming foot-off-throttle.... the engine ECU disables the engine's fuel system and MG1 (responsible for engine starting and acting as a power generator) continuously spins the engine over as in a crank-no-start condition in a regular car, only the engine in a Prius spins at the MG's rotational crank speed which is much faster than a regular ICE starter spins the engine at an RPM much lower than idle in order to start the intake, compression, power and exhaust cycle. This allows the MG in the transaxle to burn up the excess power that has been created and not needed. It is going to sound like the engine is running when in B mode, but its actually just being spun over by the MG at a "running speed" which is all dependent on gearing and rotational speeds of the driveline components and planetary gears inside of the transaxle. So, when you hear the engine running, it is not running as long as your foot is off throttle because the ECU has the fuel system disabled, it's being spun over at speed by the Motor Generator in the transaxle to burn up excess power that is not needed. Hit the throttle in B mode and suddenly engine power comes back and fuel is delivered and seamlessly you have power from the engine again. The transaxles in these cars are brilliant masterpieces of engineering.
@lavatrip9344
@lavatrip9344 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a detailed explanation of what's really going on. Thank you Chris Corbett. But one answer that's still kind of foggy for me. When going down a long Steep Hill with B enabled in a Gen 2 Prius does that increase the regen? If so does it increase it to its Max? And then of course once the battery is full it spins the motor to help slow you down. So if it increases the region to the max then any further deceleration due to me pushing the brake pedal is definitely due to friction breaking? And if you're in B mode And re gen is increased but your battery is not yet completely full is it Also spinning up the engine? I'm simply trying to better understand exactly what's going on so that I can avoid wasting energy. They build cars for stupid people I wish I'd simply have a button for engine braking and a button for Max Regen
@BlikeNave
@BlikeNave 3 жыл бұрын
Driving down a slight gradient in B mode as a Prius driver, then seeing your battery charge is one of the best things. Happens all the time. Every time I press on the brakes it feels like I'm making money. Love this car.
@Hilljoona
@Hilljoona 3 жыл бұрын
Except the B mode doesn't affect the charge. In fact, it's charging better in D mode, because the combustion engine does not brake the car by using part of the driving force. Moreover, this is perfectly visible in this video. In D the load bar fills up completely, while in B it only goes up to a third. Moral: in B, you brake more and better, but you don't charge the electrics better or faster.
@BlikeNave
@BlikeNave Жыл бұрын
​@@HilljoonaCorrect, D is the main. I was just expressing my love for driving downhill in B mode, on top of the typical charging gained from rolling around. Also should replace the word "brake" in your moral so people don't get confused, as B as you stated uses the engine to slow the car and not the brakes. :}
@kostasg7109
@kostasg7109 7 жыл бұрын
B-mode is really for continuous hilly terrain like how you find in Europe in mountainous areas. Typically just before reaching the bottom of the hill you gas the car and remove your foot off the gas pedal around half way to allow the momentum and battery power to move you to the top; once at the top of the hill you place the car in B-mode to allow the brakes to charge the batteries much faster in order to repeat the process again at the upcoming hill. Doing so decreases fuel consumption quite a bit in such terrain.
@Mike-sk4dj
@Mike-sk4dj 6 жыл бұрын
This should've been a two minute video. I really didn't need five minutes of you blathering on while you drive up a hill waiting to find out what "b" mode is.
@Hilljoona
@Hilljoona 3 жыл бұрын
The B mode doesn't affect the charge, like many people seem to think. In fact, the engine is charging better in D mode, because the combustion engine does not brake the car by using part of the driving force. Moreover, this is perfectly visible in this video. In D the load bar fills up completely, while in B it only goes up to a third. Moral: in B, you brake more and better, but you don't charge the electrics better or faster. I don't even know if we're really saving fuel anyway. But I do know that it avoids the need for brake discs. So good point for the mechanics.
@Jay-vw6hn
@Jay-vw6hn 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Toyota Prius. Fantastic car.
@tractorguy1994
@tractorguy1994 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me what
@conorburby2083
@conorburby2083 3 жыл бұрын
@@tractorguy1994 I mean it gets great gas mileage, 2016 doesn’t have horrid control like 2015 and lower. Yeah if u want a fast car then this isn’t for u but u want cheap driving then yea
@GeorgHekt
@GeorgHekt 5 жыл бұрын
I had the super full battery recently as well and initially assumed that not having EV mode at that moment meant a problem with the car. Then I checked the manual and it said that when the battery is showing completely full it means that it is simultaneously running hot. So the car stops using it for a bit in order to cool it off.
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
good point! what year?
@GeorgHekt
@GeorgHekt 3 жыл бұрын
@@nationofgandhis my Prius is 2009
@henkgrui
@henkgrui 6 жыл бұрын
My Prius 3 was able to charge the whole battery (all lines) in the French mountains. I drove 4000 km in Europe from the Netherlands to the French Pyrenees and back again. Average usage 5.1 liters per 100km, this is not bad in my opinion if you know that on the Highways was the speed was 130km per hour and a lot of steep hills. In the hill's B mode worked perfect but sometimes the engine made a lot of RPM's when it was very steep.
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 7 жыл бұрын
Let me help by putting this in simpler terms; Normally when a Prius going downhill, coasting and braking are regenerating kinetic energy into electricity by charging the battery. However, when the battery is full, there can be no more regeneration, therefore some other type of drag is required. This could be from the brake-pads, but that can be destructive and wasteful. In a normal vehicle, some engine-braking can be accomplished by not applying the accelerator, and allowing air pressure and friction from the engine to provide some drag. It's no mystery why the Prius engine is running while in B-mode. To provide drag without braking or regeneration, the engine is bleeding off energy by compressing air, when the other two options are not possible or desirable.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 6 жыл бұрын
Except that the engine doesn't come on for a while in B mode, and the engine also eventually starts in D mode when using regen down a long hill.
@lavatrip9344
@lavatrip9344 5 жыл бұрын
So it looks like you're starting to answer my real question. But are you sure that you know what you're talkin about? Are you sure that it's using actual engine compression to help slow you down after the battery is full. I understand the battery can't help slow you down by charging when it's full because it's already full. My gen2 is not really showing me how much regenerative action is happening and I'm having trouble Discerning when the actual brakes are being applied and wasting energy. So if putting it in the B mode increase is regenerative braking when possible can I further increase the regenerative braking by pushing the brake pedal? Or does that max out the regenerative braking simply by letting off the gas pedal?
@channel_B5
@channel_B5 5 жыл бұрын
en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius/Driving_tricks
@mikesdav
@mikesdav 5 жыл бұрын
It did this in my Ford Escape hybrid in L gear. It is using the 2nd motor to spin the engine to waste some of the excess energy when the battery is full. If the hill was more steep you would hear the engine rev higher. A Tesla does this and has settings to adjust how aggressive it is except it is impossible to do at full charge.
@ArkDiabLord
@ArkDiabLord 7 жыл бұрын
I hardly steps on the break, I've always use the Break mode, to exit a highway or slow down from the traffic or slide down from a hill, 50,000+ odo now and the breakers condition are still excellent!
@130rapid
@130rapid 7 жыл бұрын
The best for long transmission durability is changing from Eco to B when speed is constant. To prevent a jerk which happens because mode change when slowing down.
@nickhahn5412
@nickhahn5412 6 жыл бұрын
唐托尼 brake*
@johnsolomita1888
@johnsolomita1888 6 жыл бұрын
It stands for breakfast
@usmansidat6471
@usmansidat6471 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@mikeq5807
@mikeq5807 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video! I used B mode on a very steep hill in Portland, Maine. It does grab very well, and it did bring me below the speed limit. Great feature!
@BigFatCaulk
@BigFatCaulk 6 жыл бұрын
I thought b was for badass
@fabian_la1102
@fabian_la1102 5 жыл бұрын
Bird screamer69 No it’s b for bitch so who ever drives a Prius is a bitch
@MrTupua
@MrTupua 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@sevnlight6313
@sevnlight6313 5 жыл бұрын
@@fabian_la1102 I would be butthurt too if I was driving an old Fred Flinstone car. Good thing I get almost 50mpg saving alot of $$$
@ArnoldJagt
@ArnoldJagt 6 жыл бұрын
While the engine may be turning in "B" mode, it is not getting any gas or spark, just air. By the way, "B" mode is great for stop-and-go traffic as it slows you down nicely whenever you take your foot off the gas pedal.
@albyyaris2
@albyyaris2 7 жыл бұрын
While going downhill, the dealer told me to keep driving in D mode. Once your battery is fully charged, you can shift into B mode. Also, they say "B mode" is very useful while driving in the snow ( I guess it's because that helps slow down the car without touching the brake pedal, which is a good thing when you have to deal with icy/snowy roads )..have you ever had the chance to try it?
@Espr14
@Espr14 7 жыл бұрын
B is to keep friction brakes cool (avoid deforming). So if you're going downhill and the battery is nearly full, use B mode. This happens normally on big hills with fully loaded car.
@hunterhalo
@hunterhalo 7 жыл бұрын
the dealer said, the dealer said, the most misleading conception that i always heard people said. listen to this guy he knows what he is talking about, and please read the manual, it will explain to you, and there is no part that said you need to fully charge the battery before engaging B mode.
@aysennooris2340
@aysennooris2340 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, Can I shift the gear to B mode while gear is on D and the car is moving?
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
@@aysennooris2340 yes! NO problem, done it many times!
@danielbaboiu2288
@danielbaboiu2288 Жыл бұрын
@@hunterhalo You can engage B-mode any time you drive, but if you do, energy that otherwise be regenerated is wasted as friction in the combustion engine. That's why it is advised to use B-mode only after the battery is full, to maximize regenerative braking.
@Speed74LP
@Speed74LP 7 жыл бұрын
When going down hill, and you want to charge the battery, you better stay in D and brake several times. Since D Mode retrieves more energy as B Mode. In D Mode only the generator brakes. In B Mode the generator AND the gas engine brakes (you can see that, when you turned into B the green EV Mode light is going black, showing the gas engine running, it needs to run, since in B Mode it brakes too). So when the battery is low level and you go down a hill, better use D Mode and brake more. When the battery is full, you can use B Mode. Either way, D mode is more efficient. But i think the system warns after a period of time, going down hill only in D Mode, that you should go to B Mode so that the car can brake more and the generator doesn't overheat or something.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@ruimsfreire4919
@ruimsfreire4919 7 жыл бұрын
MODE B IS ALSO USEFUL WHEN WE LEAVE A HILL AND THE FLOOR IS VERY BROKEN, SO WE DO NOT LOSE REGENERATION
@qztronic
@qztronic 7 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't go a long decline in D, because as you brake to keep the car in constant speed the battery will constantly be charge as you go and the charging-habit is "as much as possible" in D vs "charge only litely and throw most away( to the engine) " in B. when driving in D, only after a short while the battery will finally get full or overheat (or both) causing the regenerative braking to not be anymore possible, then the car have to call for a special braking mechanism of which B mode use anyway. so by driving in D you will instead end up with a hot battery for no reason in long decline. They put B mode for you to really use when going down hill so I recommend to just trust the system. PS. B mode mechanism explain: because the Toyota's hybrid car always contain atleast two MG-unit (motor/generator unit), B mode produce engine brake by using MG2 as generator creating electricity as you brake (if not back to the battery where can the power go) so they send it back to MG1 to act as a motor to spin the engine, the engine work in engine-brake mode pumping air to create heat (the engine that you here revving when going down hill involved no fuel injection, it rev up just to pump air to create heat loss to use up those excess electricity cheers.
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 7 жыл бұрын
although it makes sense for fuel economy and battery charging, i would never risk overheating the brakes on a long decline for the sake of battery charging ;)
@StanTrnik
@StanTrnik 7 жыл бұрын
Not true, you can't overheat battery with braking in D, you should drive down the hill in D whole time until you fill your battery completely. You should use B mode only if regenerative braking is not enough to slow down the car to speed you wish OR if your battery is fully charged and you want to save brake disks. If you will drive down the hill in D mode for like one hour, there will be no damage/overheating to your battery at all. Also energy created by generator is not used to spin motor in B mode, it's just not connected in to the circuit at all. Combustion engine is connected to wheels via eCVT and pumps air through engine.
@sleekitwan
@sleekitwan Жыл бұрын
Weber Engineering explain Prius transmission very well, it’s a University Prof I think, at Utah State. The only grey area he left was the friction plate, clutch-type device - seems to be a safety-relief situation with that, it can be forced to scrape around inside a permanently clamped compact ring housing, but there’s no normal use or actuation of it as a clutch at all. It’s a ‘torque let-off’ device for sort-of emergencies only. Weber describes Toyota’s system very well, I watched it a couple of times. As others realised way before I did, this ‘synergy drive’ is not in fact the BS I originally thought it was (before I got the car and looked into it), and certainly not the conventional CVT design, that the likes of Nissan use. The Nissan ones have all the failings I thought the Toyota design had, pulleys, torque convertor wasting energy, a weirdly complex belt that needs to grip but also slip (!), and the belt is made of metal stampings, formed into a belt - it’s a darn good try, but not a patch on Toyota’s Prius design, which was much better by gen 3 eliminating the chain drive previously incorporated. In the deepest recesses of my brain, a little voice says the Toyota system is really a variation on the principle of the differential, but with twiddly extras-on as it were. It does not LOOK like one, but it has several diff-type gear assemblies buried inside it, and the MG1 and MG2 by this ingenious method, sit in a simple straight line with the engine. It avoids all the friction plates of a conventional auto transmission, by the MGs kicking-in to do something-or-other. Weber does explain it well, I don’t. I am just glad it’s not wet friction plates all over the place. No conical pulleys and weird belt that needs to grip but also slip up and down the rise of the pulleys, and it’s a belt that relies on PUSH effort, not PULL like you ( I ) would expect. After all, that’s how every chain and belt in almost every system anywhere, works, by tension. Anyway, this was a good exposition of the system, and I learned a lot from the other commenters. My takeaway is that ‘B’ mode is not exactly EV one-pedal driving, and is for being used sparingly, for where road signs say ‘engage low gear now’ on hills etc. I do use it for short stretches where speed humps mean you go fast and slow a lot, like as if it were second gear on a manual clutch car. The strain isn’t much because it’s not downhill, it just saves me applying the brake/regen braking all the time. Take care all. Oh, PS…have all the motoring journalists stopped talking about Regen Brakes finally, showing that they originally thought these were physically a separate set of brake units?! There were a few in the beginning. Said things like ‘The regen brakes wear instead, so your ordinary brakes last longer’ and so on. I cringed. This motor journalism, was the actual job of these people, with luck they now do something else, a lot better. It’s a relief to know that (having just scrapped my old Volvo 5-pot with conventional auto transmission) my newly-acquired Prius gen 3 has a lot of the parts that wear, gone. No torque convertor, so more efficient. The ‘creep’ you feel when you ‘engage’ the D mode of the tiny gearknob, is entirely simulated. It mimics the torque convertor creep but is merely one of the MGs being ‘told’ to do that!
@tekinbozbey6551
@tekinbozbey6551 7 жыл бұрын
B mode is also very useful in low speed very busy traffic, keeps not to touch to break very often.
@vink6163
@vink6163 7 жыл бұрын
Problem is, then you're burning fuel to use the engine to slow down. If you use the brakes then the car puts that energy into charging the batteries instead, so you can get that energy back later to accelerate again, saving fuel. The car doesn't use the brake pads unless you stamp on the brakes, which is why they last for so much longer than on other cars. The only time you need to use B mode is when you need to do a lot of braking and the batteries are full, so there's nowhere for the excess energy to go. B mode burns fuel to shed that excess energy.
@demagab
@demagab 4 жыл бұрын
I think the engine stays on in B mode so it can additionally slow down the vehicle in the same way when you downshift a gas vehicle down the hill
@officebear4637
@officebear4637 7 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing to note with priuses is that even though they have a lot of engine braking, you need to use the brakes every once in a while because depending on humidity, they can inflate just enough so that the pads rub against the rotors, slowing the car down and eating up a lot of battery and fuel. Happened to my grandpa because he lives near the sea, he started breaking more often and now the problem is gone.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
Good advice!
@camfam52002
@camfam52002 7 жыл бұрын
B mode in a Prius simply spins the ICE without firing it to simulate engine braking. In effect it diverts energy through the engine rather than the generator as it won't provide the level of retardation required for steep descents. The reason you see that the engine is on is because the crank angle sensor reads as if it running, when ofcourse it's not. Don't use it, it is dumping the kinetic energy that you can otherwise divert to the battery pack. Lightly touch the foot brakes to increase the field strength of MG1 and maximise the efficincy.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 6 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect. There is no direct connection between the wheels and the engine in a prius. Both D with light brakes, and B mode regen and charge the battery. Eventually however, the motor will start and it will reduce regen. I suspect something begins to overheat. Regen charges the battery very quickly.
@dmccarthy100
@dmccarthy100 7 жыл бұрын
I also have a Prius (2016). when in B mode and it's strictly charging the drive battery, if you change your MID to display the electrical layout it shows that the wheels are charging the battery but the ICE is not engaged/active. So it is in a sense in EV mode, but not showing the green ev icon
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
Good feedback, I'll have to look at that!
@TheLookingOne
@TheLookingOne 7 жыл бұрын
Good video. You can tune it up by looking into the Prius 'CVT'. It is not a true CVT (what engineers mean when they use that term) because it has exactly ONE gear. The Prius never shifts out of that gear--it is always in that gear. Many people are confused by Toyota's 'CVT', probably because Toyota wants to confuse folks about this. One gear sounds bad, but Toyota makes it work.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and I'd love to see a video about the internals on the transmission for these cars.
@grahamdavies8924
@grahamdavies8924 7 жыл бұрын
jettlash1000 : Does it have to be a video? Would you settle for words and pictures?
@MatteoBurroni
@MatteoBurroni 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, so it works like all the other Toyota hybrid. Anyway in B mode the petrol engine runs continuously in order to slow down the car, it's like as you said at the beginning putting a low gear in order to save the brakes. Since on the Toyota hybrid when the battery is full the regenerative brake drops (otherwise you'll overheat the battery), the only way to avoid the brakes is to kick in the petrol engine and let it "absorb" the energy. Unfortunately to do this the ecvt has to burn some petrol, instead of the "standard" car that doesn't burn at all when the engine is drag. Maybe in USA is not so useful, but try to come in Italian appennini's roads whitout using the B and you'll burn your brakes after the first hill :)
@allenfischer6472
@allenfischer6472 7 жыл бұрын
I like to B mode for going around sharp corners on Highway ,it help you keep in Control
@allenfischer6472
@allenfischer6472 7 жыл бұрын
I love theToyota Prius 2016 sport suspension too
@dcabana1
@dcabana1 7 жыл бұрын
I've had my 2012 Prius now for a month and I've been using the B whenever I want to slow &stopfrom around 70 mph. Will this cause the engine to over reve,and possibly damage the engine?
@10babiscar
@10babiscar 6 жыл бұрын
it should have a fuel cut off for when the engine is being driven by the cars inertia, this is what happens in all modern cars.
@Maximonious
@Maximonious 5 жыл бұрын
Technically... the engine is not "running"... it's just spinning faster... to duplicate downshifting... and not sucking down gas!
@rickkern5785
@rickkern5785 4 жыл бұрын
The poor mileage he is getting indicates it is burning gas...
@philnelson4184
@philnelson4184 6 жыл бұрын
We live in a mountainous area and have two Gen 3 Prii. I prefer keeping it in D mode with the cruise on if possible. In D mode the battery charges to full when going downhill; using B mode dumps or wastes energy. In other words you will get much better mileage staying in D mode in the mountains. If you redid the hill climb video and came down the hill in D mode with cruise control holding it at 25 mph or manually control your speed using less than full scale braking I guarantee you will get 50-60 mpg on the round trip. One thing I don't see mentioned anywhere is what happens to the extra energy when the battery gets full? in D mode the extra energy has to be dissipated somewhere. I believe there is a heating element and blower that is used to dump this energy, I have heard it come on many times after the battery gets full. It sounds like a fan is running under that car. As soon as you start using the battery again the fan noise goes away. I think the reason they design the battery to never get full in normal driving is to leave some room for it to charge when you come down hills. Typically the battery stays around 6 bars when you are driving on a flat roads. I wish Toyota would have a button/mode that could select mountain driving and keep the battery normally at 4 bars. That way it would have more room available to charge on longer descents. You wouldn't waste all that energy.
@officebear4637
@officebear4637 7 жыл бұрын
I love Prius videos, even though I don't own one they're relaxing. Prius drivers are so easygoing. Refreshing from all those crazed soccer moms I see on the road who give me road rage when I don't go 0-60 in 5 seconds.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 7 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha.
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 Prius, and it behaves basically the same when you put it in B mode, it keeps the engine running even at a stoplight. The reason it does this going down a hill is it is using the vacuum created by the engine running to act as a brake. Much as any other internal combustion powered car would do when you drop down a gear. I'm not sure whether it recharges the battery at a higher rate than if you just lightly put your foot on the brake. Light brake application in a Prius does not necessarily Engage The friction brakes but only the regenerative brakes. You could take a look at the Gage while you're doing this and see how much charging is being put into the battery when you go down the hill in B mode versus just light brake application in regular drive mode. One aspect of the Prius is once the battery is completely full it doesn't have any place to store the energy and regenerative braking will stop being effective, B mode and come in handy in this case. On very long Mountain Hills. One- that I have found using B mode a lot is you may see an increase in oil consumption. Especially on a car with higher miles. This is because you are running with significant engine vacuum which can pull oil past valve seals and piston rings on a slightly worn engine. One reason the car may have been running as you approach that stop sign at the bottom of the hill even though you are out of B mode. Is because it was keeping the cabin temperature at whatever you had set it at you said it was cold and it needs to run the engine to maintain cabin Heat.
@timogronroos4642
@timogronroos4642 5 жыл бұрын
Difference between D and B is not the amount of charging. Braking by charging is first method in both. But the issue is, what happens when recharging is not sufficient way to keep speed in control. The method after recharging is generating heat to loose energy. That can be done in two ways, using brake pads or/and spinning the engine. There's no gears in Toyota Synergy Drive, so without B option, brake pads would be the only way, and in long decent, they would become toasted. So when people thing B would be a clever way to generate more power to battery, the truth is the opposite, it's a way to loose more energy with heat generation.
@oo-dd3lk
@oo-dd3lk 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent ! Straight talking, no hype. Thank you.
@stephanyortiz6001
@stephanyortiz6001 6 жыл бұрын
Jetta. B mode which I call brake mode is exactly what you said its basically L or Low Gears mode. You asked or commented in the video that you didn't understand why the engine is on during B mode. That is very simple B mode works by using the Engine to brake just like a car does in Low gears. Also please note that B mode can be engaged and disengaged on the Fly. Meaning you can go from D to B and then back to D. You don't need to stop the car. I use on steep inclines and when I want to brake harder without using the brakes. For example and this is only for Prius cars and full EV cars, as you know the car brakes without using brakes pads. Well if you need to stop faster without using the pads. You drop it into B mode and then apply brakes and the soft braking is much stronger.
@stephanyortiz6001
@stephanyortiz6001 6 жыл бұрын
Soft Braking is my term for EV car braking without engaging the brake pads. Soft Braking is usually about 10% of the brake pedal full range. So anything above 10% depressed begins to use the brake pad, anything under 10% depressed you are using the Electrical Motor to stop the car.
@stephanyortiz6001
@stephanyortiz6001 6 жыл бұрын
My 2008 Prius still has the original brake pads, and they are still 90% or more unused.
@anthonymalovrh2912
@anthonymalovrh2912 7 жыл бұрын
I have maxed out the bars on my 2010 Prius using B mode in the Smokey Mountains.
@petershen1984
@petershen1984 7 жыл бұрын
I love the energy graph but I prefer seeing the tachometer. The graph actually shows your gas pedal position and you could gauge it at the ECO line: the gas engine kicks in when that much acceleration is needed. When the battery is 8 bars full, the engine basically runs off the electric motor/battery to make room for more braking transfer.
@levankantara
@levankantara 11 ай бұрын
Today I had to drive downhill, it was pretty long road. I did not use B gear, only brakes. half way through step downihll, i felt some twitching on my pedal and ABS indicator also flashed 2 times. Just after that my brakes could barely slow down the car. luckily I was able to stop in a safe spot. My break pads were overheated and I decided to use B gear, it was an experiment, I had no idea how my car would behave. I just went with it and B did a pretty decent job helping me decend, but my engine became so lound that I got worried . Engine was revving faster than ever before. So i had to continue with D. Now I see that It is okay for engine to be absurdly loud . Finally after cruising with B it cooled my pads and was able to continue driving. I just wish I had used B for whole trip, probably my pads would smell so bad
@LivnLife92
@LivnLife92 7 жыл бұрын
I've noticed as well when driving my 2016 that if you have cruise control set & start going down hill it seems to automatically kick in Engine braking although the indicator doesn't show it in "B" mode trying not to go past the set speed & man i can imagine how quickly you would have gained speed going down the hill in neutral because mine definitely gains speed even quicker in neutral going down hill =p
@mordenmw
@mordenmw 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. this explains it better than the dealership did when i bought one.
@jesseobrien5864
@jesseobrien5864 2 жыл бұрын
First. Thank God for you. I watched so many videos that just wasted my time until you showed up. Second. So you just shift on the fly right? Does it stay in B until you pop it back up? Do you have to shift back to drive from B? That's cool. So basically find a hill. Charge it and your Gucci. I'm gonna read the manual. But this helped a lot for a 2013 Prius Persona
@wjj4832
@wjj4832 6 жыл бұрын
Where you were coming back down in B mode and the car slowed below 25 MPH, I would have dropped over to Neutral for a few seconds to pick up speed, as opposed to stepping on the gas. When the speed picked up adequately, I would quickly bump it into Drive and back into B mode. This has been very effective for me, and I now have 137K miles on my 2011 Prius with no battery or engine problems. Best tank to date was over 600 miles, averaging 65.2 MPG (all in-town driving in a single day.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@bushputz
@bushputz 6 жыл бұрын
Alternately, you can go between Drive and B mode. That's what I do when I'm coming down I-70 from a day of skiing. I can usually control my speed to match traffic this way, rarely touching either the gas or brake pedals all the while charging the battery.
@mksherwood3068
@mksherwood3068 7 жыл бұрын
B mode is engine brake mode. Engine runs to provide compression breaking. Use B mode on mountain descents and in heavy traffic where you don't want to break to stay in 20-30 mph traffic flow.
@Realistis
@Realistis 7 жыл бұрын
I don't have this kind of slope nearby. On my European Prius, I can force EV (below 50km/h). I wonder what happens in B mode in EV only: 1- charge faster (gears ratio on electric motor only), 2- starts ICE to use gears ratio on ICE, 3- it does 1 then 2 depending on battery levels to prevent overcharging. Or maybe I don't need to force EV at all.
@symmetry08
@symmetry08 7 жыл бұрын
I think, those engineers have put an additional B1,B2 and B3 modes so that to vary power of recycling and how fast it will descend.
@qztronic
@qztronic 7 жыл бұрын
symmetry08 there's no B1 B2 unfortunately, but we balance the energy input and output in B mode, that's why the engine kick-in to create heat loss as load (free pumping with no fuel injected) , it also rev higher according to the excess regeneration resulting is a dynamic effect (the car mimic engine-brake harder the more you press the brake pedal)
@Raphael-eu7cw
@Raphael-eu7cw 4 жыл бұрын
Prius is CVTE e is for electronic CVT is in standard. If you watch someone take both them apart you will see how there is huge difference. CVTE is actually what makes it a hybrid drive train
@yzhang8629
@yzhang8629 6 жыл бұрын
“B Mode” in Prius is similar to the “L Gear” in conventional vehicles. L limits the highest gear the computer can choose, in order to provide as much engine brake as possible. If you drive at high speed, you remain in lower gears. Prius doesn’t have engine connected to wheels all the time, so in B mode when you let go the gas peddle at high vehicle speed, Prius will engage the engine to provide engine brake. However based on my experience, when let go the gas peddle at low vehicle speed, Prius won’t engage the engine. When driving at high speed, Prius functions just like in “D Mode”
@haroldingpatrick1924
@haroldingpatrick1924 7 жыл бұрын
Try using the cruise control to hold the speed going downhill - my 3rd generation model will automatically employ heavy regen (filling the battery completely full, the only time I see it) and then engine braking to hold the speed. It's kinda like the hill assist mode on Ford hybrids. I'm curious if the 4th gen does the same thing - let us know! Thanks for the videos.
@allenfischer6472
@allenfischer6472 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the cruise does Hold the Hills with the 2016 Prius
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 6 жыл бұрын
In 2013 Prius you can't set cruise in B mode
@Paulviet
@Paulviet 6 жыл бұрын
I do the same with my Prius C, cruise control set and press it down a few times to slow the car down even.
@gushammerly5345
@gushammerly5345 5 жыл бұрын
I think B mode works better for very steep downhills, never felt the need to use it. In long hill descends I just use cruise and it regens until the battery is full, then the electronics make the engine brake. Very smooth transition from elecric regeneration to cvt controlled engine braking. Best cruise control of any car I ever driven. B mode may be better suited for long descends on sinuous curvy roads where it would be inconvenient to drive with cruise control or normal mode could overheat the brakes.
@johnpi1342
@johnpi1342 7 жыл бұрын
B mode is just like a truck's engine brake. It'll slow you down when engaged.
@0608kmillard
@0608kmillard 3 жыл бұрын
Not like a truck's engine. Are you referrimg to "jake brakimg" (compression)?
@infernonine
@infernonine 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you just got 2 2018 Prius two cars for me and my wife very informative
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, enjoy!
@ontopoftheroof
@ontopoftheroof 4 жыл бұрын
RTFM. It says that in "B" mode engine breaking is used in addition to regenerative breaking. This is why the engine is turning at 25 mph.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 6 жыл бұрын
The spark engine isn't actually running in B mode with no throttle input. It's being driven by the front wheels, just like when engine braking in a spark-only.
@enterthehunter7336
@enterthehunter7336 6 жыл бұрын
well simply put an electric motor actually has to utilize current flow in order to produce resistance not much and rather steady but it still does where a gas engine provide natural resistance as it will only spin as fast as it can burn adequate fuel to stay running
@GM-ul1el
@GM-ul1el 6 жыл бұрын
good informative video, turn off the music while you're talking, irritating and distracting.
@Optimistprime.
@Optimistprime. Жыл бұрын
B mode uses the electric motor like it does in regenerative braking. I find with my 2016 Prius v that it's not worth using it over the regenerative braking because as long as you keep it under a curtain speed your engine will be off and you're not using the brake pads anyway. Not worth the mileage hit as your RPMs go up and you use more gas again. I think I've used mine like 4 times.
@djclown7pb
@djclown7pb 6 жыл бұрын
B mode is for engine braking, the engine has to be on and gas will be used in this mode, but you will also charge your battery at same time
@wimschoenmakers5463
@wimschoenmakers5463 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds verry logic to me. The petrol engine is running stationary and you break on that engine. And the electromotor needs to get rid of energie and therefore loads the battery.
@rawadhasan9111
@rawadhasan9111 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Your video helped me understand this 3 year long mystery in my brain.
@ingram1225
@ingram1225 7 жыл бұрын
My wife has this. BOught it in Feb. 2016 or about a month after it was built. I have noticed that, while in EV driving mode (Blue color) it requires more pedal travel to get the car to move. With our driving habits, we discovered that, we got WORSE gas mileage with the EV mode than we did with the "NORMAL" (Green) mode. Green mode is where we are getting the most MPG at about 62 in the summer, and 58 in the winter. No joke. My wife does about 80 miles a day, 60 city, 40 hwy.
@bobbabai
@bobbabai 6 жыл бұрын
william ingram jr Yeah, I found Eco mode to be irritating and it didn't make much difference in fuel mileage. Hated the throttle feel in Eco mode. I leave it in Normal.
@alexs6545
@alexs6545 6 жыл бұрын
When going down the hill- does it have to be one or the other? use only Cruise Control or use only the B mode?
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
I think the cruise control is unavailable? priuschat.com/threads/ev-b-rake-mode.179453 2020 manual p. 406 ■Situations unsuitable for dynamic radar cruise control with full-speed range. ●On steep downhills, or where there are sudden changes between sharp up and down gradients Vehicle speed may exceed the set speed when driving down a steep hill. p. 415 : ■Dynamic radar cruise control with full-speed range can be set when ●The shift position is in D."
@simonajbrown
@simonajbrown 6 жыл бұрын
I had wondered what the B was for, thanks for the explanation.
@johnedwards3621
@johnedwards3621 6 ай бұрын
B = Compression Braking when regenerative braking runs out of battery reserve space for the extra energy that would be generated going down long steep hills.
@LepKenetmiss
@LepKenetmiss 5 жыл бұрын
B mode is NOT for extra battery recharge ... it turns on the engine, and slows you down like a normal car, and it makes your fuel efficiency WORSE.
@Martindyna
@Martindyna 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the engine is being driven at relatively high speed by the forward motion of the car with the gas shutoff, just like a regular car in low gear going down a hill.
@johnnyfrantzen213
@johnnyfrantzen213 4 жыл бұрын
B-mode slow down so that the automatic transmissions shift up automatically. and with the petrol engine go me a trip to charge the batteries automatically, the Prius has a very nice hybrid that is always charged when the petrol engine runs. in contrast to other plug-in hybrids, which must be charged at charging stations or power outlets at home
@Meiiokoii
@Meiiokoii 6 жыл бұрын
the HV battery is never full. It's kept at the sweet spot of 40-80 unless you run it out of juice after running out of gas
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about B mode. Call it what you want. ,,Brake'' ,,Battery'' or whatever. They should've just left it out. If you're driving in D there's very little initial engine braking on the Prius because the engine is turned off. In B mode the Prius uses the engine at a very high rpm for engine braking. So energy is wasted. You shouldn't do this in any other car but on you Prius you should ride the brakes in D all the way down. The Prius has an electro hydraulic brake or called the ECB(Electronically Controlled Braking). What that does is there's no direct connection between the brake pedal and the wheel brakes. Just like in the well known Mercedes SBC (Sensotronic Brake Control). The pedal feel is simulated by a modulator and the electronic computer itself does the braking of each wheels. Advantages and disadvantages in a normal car can be found on Wikipedia. Also use a translator and read it in German which goes much more into details. Back to topic. As there's no direct connection between the brakes and the brake pedal the computer can utilize regenerative braking and will blend in the friction brakes seemlessly as soon as regenerative braking hits any limitations. In everyday driving that's usually speed as the generator then lacks rpm for effective braking. Now going down hill and riding the brakes not to hard will give you a lot of energy into your battery. When the battery is full the transmission will automatically go into B mode to now use the engine for braking and friction braking is blended for the amount needed what the driver requests in deceleration. Engine breaking doesn't give you anything it's just another friction brake if you want so and uses the pumping looses inside the engine to simplify terms a lot. There's much more going on but that's just too much. So best strategy is if you know that you'll go down the hill afterward or there's a decent on the other side. Go up in EV mode as far as you can draining your battery and go down the hill to charge your battery as much as you can. When you hear the engine rev up let off the brakes and switch into B mode. That's the most cost effective way to travel that hill and decent. Don't worry about damaging the battery. A 100% on the display are 80% for the battery in real life and 0% are 40% in real life. That's done to maximize the life of the battery. B mode was just implemented as there were people complaining about the very little deceleration of the Prius when letting of the gas pedal. Use a translator if you want an indepth explanation about the Prius ECB www.priuswiki.de/index.php?title=Bremse#Bilder_von_Bremsscheiben
@307Smallmouth
@307Smallmouth 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2017 Prius and this was great information! I was wondering what B mode was.
@5770mp
@5770mp 5 жыл бұрын
No reason to use b mode, unless you want to slow down down a hill.. No, is not charging the battery faster (is actually less..)
@doolkore
@doolkore 5 жыл бұрын
The engine has a powerful electric generator, like an alternator, but the engine has to be spinning. The engine isn't technically "running" because the downward momentum of the car is spinning the engine. It's the same as putting a regular car in a lower gear, the engine throttles back and the forward momentum is turning the engine.
@lexmedved
@lexmedved 3 ай бұрын
I know what the B mode does, but the engine whines rediculously high and sounds like it's gonns explode. IE: getting to the end of the Blue Ridge parkway down to Cherokee. I had to alternate between a short amount of B mode and brakes. Stopping many times cause I could smell my brakes getting super hot.
@James-zu1ij
@James-zu1ij 7 жыл бұрын
B mode just provides engine braking. Doesn't allow ev mode
@Hilljoona
@Hilljoona 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and it's not charging the electric engine faster or better (in fact it's quite the opposite) like I could have seen in the comments.
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 6 жыл бұрын
I live in South Florida no cold no hills.....perfect for a hybrid.
@AndysGeneral
@AndysGeneral 4 жыл бұрын
Cold isn't bad that heat is worse
@gerrymiles4278
@gerrymiles4278 7 жыл бұрын
the cvt actually has two speeds the high end of highway will change up to a higher gear ratio but you will not feel. b mode is engine braking used to make engine braking by its compression to slow down .b mode is great to use for slowing down your speed before intersection without actually touching brakes so momentum is not lost .great for winter driving in the city so wheels dont lock up on ice using the engine compression to slow down.the battery peak operating range is 20% to 90%. not good to extend past 100% for long periods of time.
@jimscheltema670
@jimscheltema670 6 жыл бұрын
Does B-Mode provide battery charging similar to the regenerative braking?
@Hilljoona
@Hilljoona 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, it doesn't affect the electric recharge. Basically you don't charge better with the B mode, in fact it's quite the opposite.
@adam_explosion
@adam_explosion 3 жыл бұрын
Can you shift to B while the car is still going or do you have to fully stop?
@knoblis
@knoblis 4 жыл бұрын
The gas engine is not actually "running". The electric engines are running it dry (without gas) to burn up excessive battery.
@martinbernard1250
@martinbernard1250 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Prius prime and b mode disabled my cruise control and keeps the engine running while in hybrid mode. The engine never turns off when coasting or when stopped.
@jettlash1000
@jettlash1000 4 жыл бұрын
I’m jealous. I’d love the prime! How do you like yours?
@nationofgandhis
@nationofgandhis 3 жыл бұрын
@@jettlash1000 love mine, though dealer does not use W16 as requested by manual. If W20 oil used change every 5k otherwise 10k. some say heavy acceleration not available w/out engine in EV mode but I have never had that problem when tested... nice electric torque now we have insurance discount for safe driving...
@130rapid
@130rapid 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah! :) For May 12th 2017 I explore my first hybrid, little Prius sister, used Yaris HSD (EU). The first, non-dual highway trip to home gave 55 mpg / 37 mph.
@skepticalmechanic
@skepticalmechanic 2 жыл бұрын
When you switched to b mode the charge rate dipped way down..
@urntwrthyZ
@urntwrthyZ 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people who don't understand their cars insist on making videos? The reason for the ICE running while you were using B mode downhill is clearly explained in the owner's manual. The battery only has a certain amount of capacity. If that capacity is exceeded, the ICE runs to use up that extra energy.
@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs
@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs 6 жыл бұрын
has anyone noticed that B-mode doesn't regen alot? 5:25 the charge is high and then 5:32 B-mode is engaged, charge is low!
@robertrose3068
@robertrose3068 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation! I have a 2014 Prius V 5 on the way from LA (Carmax) so I'm learning all I can about these. I'm a techie person so I already know this will be fun to drive.
@syedjavedahmad9719
@syedjavedahmad9719 6 жыл бұрын
Going down hill it automatically kicks in to B mode. The is very good but has larger blind spots.
@clover7359
@clover7359 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment on CVT. Imagine you have a car with a CVT, you know what that means, and you know what your vehicle is capable of. Then imagine that vehicle simulating shift points. How disappointing is that? CVTs with fake shifts annoy the snot out of me. I took a $5k loss on a brand new Subaru because the fake shifts drove me bonkers. (the touchy accelerator and steering really threw me over the edge though). CVTs are fantastic when they work the way they were designed.
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