Private Labeling vs Contract Blending Deep Dive w/ Special Guest Pan the Organizer!

[@benbuttars143]

I love that two brands can get together and help educate and build the detailing industry.

[@BamaJoeBob]

These 2 guys are living legends of detailing! I’ve learned tons from both.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks man! I appreciate it.

[@Detailing_Dogma]

Very informative my friends!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Frank! I appreciate you!! All the best for 2025

[@Schwabz33]

Really happy that you guys have a cool collaboration going. I think it’s a very good warm. Mix of information. Very happy to see you guys coming together with your own different methods your own different products and joining as one team.

[@BreezeMW]

Always great chemistry when these two link up. Thanks gentlemen!

[@RADGarage]

I see what you did there! 😂🤘

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!! Hope you had a good Christmas man!

[@debtennis1301]

That's for all the knowledge you guys dropped - not just here, but all the times your answered questions or posted a video that explained a process etc. Don't understand the hate you guys get sometimes but please keep doing you!!! Really appreciate it!

[@nosferatu49426]

In the last year I've had a pretty significant career change coming from 14 yrs in the carpet cleaning industry and hundreds of hrs of certification training. I'm now back in construction and have found an interest in detailing and listening to all the chemical formula talk (ph, surfactants, and the like), I feel like I'm able to keep using some of that knowledge I've learned over the years. I love listening to both of your knowledge bases. Thank you for making the content you both make. 🙂

[@seang3538]

So to all those people saying sh*t as fact in other videos (comments), like the spray polish, etc... everyone now knows you don't know sh*t. Great video to explain this, well over do and props to House of Rags, Clean, DIY Detail for doing their small part of changing the industry and perception. Very informative info coming out the past few months++.

[@DetailsNMe]

Definitely a conversation that needed to be had..and who better to hear this discussion from than you and Pan. Very valuable info and with a very clear and concise delivery; loved this!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Kristi!

[@loic4691]

Oh my god, a great surprise with both of you to end this year, my favorite detailers, it's gonna be a good humored and fun vidéo 😊

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Always fun filming with Yvan!

[@kevind_53]

This is an episode I didn't knew I needed 🤯 Thanks to both of you 👌

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Kevin!

[@FineDetailingAZ]

I really enjoyed this. Thanks guys, really informative.

[@renuing]

Thanks for sharing the plan of rolling out these amazing podcasts to more and more platforms as time goes on, that's exciting to hear. These deep dives are great, hope you keep them coming 👍

[@asdf8670]

thanks for the education

[@markcasebeer8273]

Thank you, this is a very interesting video. It shows the class of both companies and why both are successful. I've learned alot watching these video. One thing that struck me is both have great products yet they both have different visions and stated that. Use what you think works the best for you.

[@pklemm1]

This was actually something I didn’t know I was interested in. Thanks for the transparency with the “behind the scenes” part of the business.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You bet! 👍🏻

[@roary3431]

Really interesting discussion guys - two great mentors in detailing! Thanks for taking the time to educate us.

[@davidboyce6427]

Yvan we can’t keep up but We Love it🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗. We’re gluttons for Detailing information/news/ demonstrations etc…. So keep the Podcast coming. Were here for it; We’re built for it😤😤😤😤🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hey David!

[@VAFR98]

I’ve learned a lot from these two and Eddie. Thank you

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!

[@FelixBouchardDetail]

Great podcast! We love those "behind the scene" Merci!

[@FelixBouchardDetail]

@pandelismoschopoulos7663 Merci Pan, j'espère que toi et ta famille aussi. Bonne année!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Felix!! You are always a great positive supporter! It doesn’t go unnoticed. ;) I hope you had a great Christmas!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you Felix.

[@dyork75]

Really appreciate you guys giving us a peek behind the curtain on this topic.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

👍🏻

[@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails]

I learned a lot! This was a great conversation that was needed! Thank you!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Becca! 🙏🏻

[@Moh4n95]

Great video👍🏾👍🏾

[@IamDetailedAF]

I cant keep up with all this content.... But thank you for creating awesome content to let me bing everytime I miss a couple. THOR FTW!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

👌🏻

[@SoCleenDetailing]

Great info on private labeling & contract blending! Thanks Yvan & Pan! #engagement 🤘🏽

[@PanTheOrganizer]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@RemedyAutoDetailOfficial]

Awesome Conversation..I felt like this needed to be discussed!

[@emilepmartin]

Outstanding job gents...now that was a deep dive!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Emile!

[@emilepmartin]

@@PanTheOrganizer Excited for what you have coming out in 2025...all the best Pan!

[@jaykid007]

Awesome Conversation and love learning how the nuts and bolts work!

[@kentbillings7551]

Thank you

[@robl6044]

Great video guys thanks for sharing 😊

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Rob!

[@samuelfeguer]

Thank you for the video. Really cleared things up.

[@BIGEUROtv]

Love this! I've learned so much about detailing through the both of you. Can't wait to see more collabs.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@makaliiomori9296]

Dope episode! Super cool to learn about the terminology, and how things are done throughout your product development.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!

[@brianengesser5039]

Great video guys!!

[@ronayotte3571]

Great information! I can't imagine the amount of money spent in research and development, legal fees and contracts, marketing, logo development, patents as well as warehousing and distribution.

[@diydetailofficial]

It’s expensive , especially the first 5 years

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It’s mind boggling for sure and tons of work to figure out, but well worth the effort when you can control what quality of products you put out. 👍🏻

[@adamlyman8293]

Hey Yvan and Pan!! Great to learn this. On a side note, I had some unfortunate failed shipments for the DIY Quick Beads in 1 gal containers. Both were damaged and never made it to me. Have the 1 gal containers and boxes been modified to better survive UPS shipping? I have many DIY Detail and CLEAN products…love them all.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Adam!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you. Yes boxes are being changed

[@salp31390]

Thank you I learned something new being very imfored is powerful.

[@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343]

What good is the NDA if your chemist tells you all the other products he creates for other companies? I would walk away from that chemist

[@diydetailofficial]

Our chemists don’t formulate and tell.

[@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343]

​@@diydetailofficialAt 10:40 you literally say that once the NDA is signed your chemist will open up and tell you the other products he has created for other brands. I guess if I found your chemist he would open up and tell me he created your products once I sign a NDA...no?

[@InfiniteDetailing101]

⁠@@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343unless the chemist is on your payroll, or you make a legal contract that the chemist can make a product for you, he most likely makes commission off your sales etc etc. many different situations. In those cases it’s not white label. Doesn’t matter if they make chemicals for other companies. Chemists are usually independent contractors so they don’t make money off just making products for one company. Unless it’s a big company and on payroll. But many cases, blend house chemists are usually owners themselves. It’s very common for chemists to eventually create blend houses and sell products for side money. But most blend houses, They have their own chemicals and they can tweak a little bit for your preferences, but you can’t tell them to change the recipe and most likely someone else also has your chemical too.

[@InfiniteDetailing101]

@@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343in our case as nighthawk, we have a chemist on our payroll. Some of our stuff is white label and we are transparent about it. Our flagship stuff isn’t white label. We could just go to bnb and get everything off there, but the problem with them is even if they develope stuff for you, the other guy can have the same thing. Starting out I guess is fine, gotta start somewhere. But my point is, bc there’s so many smaller companies like us, many chemists take advantage of making some money off multiple companies and it’s super common bc not every chemist made it to blend house level or hired by huge companies. Unless they’re blend houses then they usually don’t care and just want ppl to white label their product.

[@InfiniteDetailing101]

Also, nice to see you, you were one of the guys that got me into Detailing.

[@melansonstevenandrew]

Absolute banger!!! Great info; priceless for people interested in the industry!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻

[@ericwright1075]

Pan and Yvan two Canadian guys who have done well. Very interesting informative discussion. 🇨🇦👍👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Eric!

[@zustroy]

Question for DYI. Your EU shop does not have all the products from your range (like Interior Ceramic), when do you expect the restock of the entire range for the EU?

[@NeilJohn-the-washer]

Really looking forward to this one. Some opinions and perceptions may be shaken up in the making of this vlog.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yes for those who are mature adults. There will always be some who are close-minded and who simply can’t accept the facts.

[@jfarm_1311]

Very interesting info here. How does it work for the chemists? Are they just paid once to make the formula or are they included in the products sold as well?

[@diydetailofficial]

Depends on the contract, but mostly pay to play, end of story.

[@dallaspaintcorrectionautod8343]

Pan looks really uncomfortable unfortunately. Stay the course and I would recommend you stop diving deep into the weeds trying to figure out what people are thinking. People who own intellectual property don't feel the need to claim it or defend it. Just looks odd in my opinion. Congratulations on the product line Pan. Im excited for you

[@BamaJoeBob]

Ah it is cool to see another famous detailer chime in here.

[@tireddude54]

Great information-I always learn something new from each of you. With all the great products that you produce have ever considered selling sample packs maybe with just enough product to use once so that we can try them out and compare them without having tons of leftover product? Thanks again!

[@diydetailofficial]

The bottling, labels, filling machines, etc actually make sample sizes more expensive

[@88omarz]

For both of you, do you see any advancements coming with the drying aids you both design? I haven’t tried Clean by Pan yet, but I’ve tried clean and diy Waterless Wash. I love both of your products. I use both depending on how I feel. I know both don’t need drying aids since they act as their own drying aids, but I certainly enjoy having that extra ceramic gloss and might need to try the pan’s sealant.

[@diydetailofficial]

C6 Ceramics Mist is the most advanced Drying aid.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I am working on the development of a quick detailer that will be able to be used often. Coming in 2025

[@88omarz]

@@PanTheOrganizer thanks for answering and that is awesome news. Can’t wait to try it.

[@88omarz]

@@diydetailofficial awesome stuff. Don’t think I was aware that could be used as a drying aid. Thanks. Is there something specific that makes it the most advanced? What is the difference between it and the ceramic spray? What extra gains can I expect from it vs the ceramic spray?

[@bobfredericks6545]

Great discussion. Question for both. Who owns the raw materials, you or the blenders?

[@diydetailofficial]

Depends on the contract

[@tt-rs1457]

Was there really a discussion ?

[@bobfredericks6545]

@@tt-rs1457 there was for me. Interesting one at that. Sorry you did not get it.

[@ArizonaDetailCorp]

The thing Ive noticed about every single one of these long winded videos is that they have very little viewership and a ton of comments. Most of the same people are watching these videos and the reach really isnt going much beyond the same circle of people, likely all in the industry in some way. Niche brands really dont deliver the true value that you want and it seems these small product companies are just competing for the same small group that keeps getting passed around for the "latest and greatest"

[@TheHouseofRags]

Thanks for tuning in 💯

[@markdaniel3621]

It's great to see you two together again! I use both Diy Detail and Clean by Pan products. None of them have disappointed. I am a Rise-Less guy. I want to try Pan's after I use up the gallons of Diy Detail I have. Lol

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Mark!

[@kentbillings7551]

Question for both of you if possible. Can either of your spray ceramics be sprayed on and be left to dry? I'm wanting to add protection and ease of cleaning to a new piece of construction equipment and can't possibly get in to tight areas to wipe and or buff dry. Thank you

[@diydetailofficial]

Use DIY Detail Quick Beads, and rinse it on.

[@kentbillings7551]

thank you

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Mine isn’t designed to be sprayed and let to dry. You could spray and immediately rinse it off, then blow dry.

[@wescat2]

What a great discussion. Also there isn't a single DIY or CLEAN by Pan product that isn't a banger. You can tell they spent time dialing in the formulas.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you!

[@Randy_Gentry]

When you pit one chemist against another you still have to pay for the loosing formula?

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes

[@williampinchbeck4321]

What i would like to know is who makes their own products!! I've be to where 3D products are made because i used to live in Santa Clarita!! But if all these different brands do you know who makes their own products? I know all about distribution of many different products but i want the products that are the best and are owned by those people so I can deal with those people! Great video guys thanks!! Hope you and your families have a wonderful new year!!

[@BillaDaKilla]

The GOATS!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

🙏🏻👍🏻

[@danielbonner8309]

What I wonder sometimes is did they (all these newer smaller companies)do there do diligence on making sure this stuff is completely safe in the long run on paint, plastic etc. In my head I think the big companies Meguires, TW, Mother's have been around a long time and maybe on the safer side of things. I do realize if you made something that did do damage on a large scale, It would probably wipe a company out.

[@diydetailofficial]

In the case of DIY Detail, yes

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Absolutely, yes. The chemists I worked with have decades of experience in the field and are very much invested in making products safe for us and for the different surfaces they’re applied to.

[@JRichDetailz]

So I basically can’t use 3d1 like GS 😭😭😭

[@diydetailofficial]

No

[@tt-rs1457]

What about REACH, in according tosell in europe ? Might this a point for your business ?

[@diydetailofficial]

DIY Detail has CPL/Reach certification for most products. Most US based white label brands can’t obtain it.

[@drive2siva]

Great info. Two great folks in one video 🙌🎁🫡

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@TheMobileDetailShop1296]

At the end of the day .the e p a will only let you do so much.

[@coltparten4880]

Best piece of advice is move away from house of rags as your distributor! Horrible customer service and turtle slow speed to ship. Great products but horrible choice of distributors I ordered close to 1k of products from 3 different “distributors” and house of rage took 3x as long as the others and had to spend half a day trying to get ahold of someone to see when my order was going to ship

[@diydetailofficial]

We have many distributors

[@TheHouseofRags]

On your tracking from the only order I see under your name only took 4 business days to be delivered so what’s the problem here? Ordered on Dec 12 Thursday evening (We don’t ship on weekends) packed Dec 16 at 11:53am and delivered on Dec 18 at 5pm.

[@coltparten4880]

@@TheHouseofRags oh wow your response time to my comment was much faster than on my order. I ordered two other times earlier this year under my business and all 3 times i had very similar experiences that is what i was referring too So that is the “problem here”

[@coltparten4880]

@@diydetailofficial good to know. Like i said GREAT products but did not want to order thru house of rags. Can you share where i can buy from? If i order directly on your website will it be shipped from one of your other distributors? Thanks for the response

[@TheHouseofRags]

Actually you asked in Shopify chat at 11:10 “why hasn’t my order shipped” I replied at 11:20 “We do not ship on weekends it’s only been 1 business day since your ordered we are working hard to fulfill your order in a timely manner” and you never responded (so I actually replied faster to you about your order concerns than in the comments) seems like your just pushing a false narrative on a growing business that’s only 3 months old. If you ordered back when we launched yes it was quite overwhelming with all the massive support and orders but we were able to fulfill over 2000 orders in our first month so delays did happen we already addressed those concerns. Thank you for your continued support of THOR. In another 3 months we will be even bigger and better than we are now 💯👍

[@JhawkerZ]

Great conversation

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks J!

[@TheMobileDetailShop1296]

What we are looking is a little man to come out of the bottle and do the job for us .think you can make that happen?if you can you will be rich quick.

[@diydetailofficial]

There are detailers standing by waiting for your business

[@MikeKaufman-d7n]

Great idea for a deep dive!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Mike!

[@TimothyJohnsonBey]

Another Wise response. This is the stuff things are made of!

[@LazyJones]

I'm glad that was all finally cleared up and there will never be any trolling on this subject again 😅

[@diydetailofficial]

You still believe in the tooth fairy.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hehe! We can see some trolls in the comments here that always seem to come out the woodwork when it suits them!

[@keithfirebird7618]

#engagement 👍😎

[@diydetailofficial]

#respect

[@chrism1157]

Comment for engagement

[@diydetailofficial]

Reply out of respect.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Let's go

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@Jimmer-Space88]

Two biggest con artist in the detailing business on the Internet. Products, products, products, products, sell, sell, sell.

[@arov235]

Pan yes, Yvan no.

[@victormorales2876]

DIY been open for 2 years and clean has been for 3 months how tf are you saying this when Yvans been in the business for over 40 years and was spreading knowledge before opening up business… and pan since the beginning has been saying if he gets such amount of followers he’ll open up a brand… yall really get on here and talk out your ass

[@bobfredericks6545]

Please explain why you think they are con artists. I tried both of their products and love them.

[@donlarsenjr2332]

How exactly is selling products a con? What is the con exactly? I'll wait for your response but won't expect anything substantive.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thanks for your input.