Pro Artist vs AI Art: maybe we can be friends?

I've already gone head to head against artificial intelligence once, but maybe it's time to put aside our differences and work together! I recently got access to the AI art software MidJourney, and thought it'd be really cool to use AI generations as a base for some digital illustrations! I honestly think it can be an amazing tool for artists - what do you think??
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[@RossDraws]

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[@letstalkartsy]

Personal Opinion: “I don’t think an AI can replace a artist because why is the AI doing art (not to offend AI lovers or a AI), I mean is it because their programed for it or because the have a passion to do it, it’s unfair to them to be forced to do something they don’t want to do while we have a choice to choose if art is or not for us, it doesn’t matter if you have all the knowledge in the world about art it’s about how much you learn from that knowledge and how much your want your art to improve so I would say the artist”

[@rymhns9426]

WELCOME BACK WE ARE HAPPY ! AI art might be great if the real artists know how to properly use it ,we use technology not the opposite X)

[@Fabtasticstudios]

Can you send a leak to their discord

[@elspongebobhh]

U can use a website to create more good prompt its prompt avia or something like that

[@cornickml]

It would be great to get that sketch book

[@ramosvictor7941]

I'm not so sure AI will ever replace artist but I believe it'll reduce the amount of that jobs artist get and it'll make it hard for upcoming artists to get jobs

[@SCARRIOR]

If human artists make up 100% of the work force, AI will take up 80% of that work force. If someone told you they made art, but in reality it was created by an AI, you would not know the difference.

[@ushio540]

@@SCARRIOR timelapse?

[@mrrickstur]

Ramos Victor, yep my thoughts exactly

[@NahomyMcqueen]

@@SCARRIOR Sorry but I can notice a lot of art made by AI and the one that really is ART.

[@masterchiff6784]

@@NahomyMcqueen For now. Soon you won't be able to.

[@chaseyt4579]

Behind a very good AI picture there are millions of works by human artists who are very inhumane sacrifices

[@seiorai_art]

This was done 4 months ago when very little if anything was known about the images sourcing.

[@quadqq]

Another paradigm, behind very good human created artwork, are hundreds of thousands of visuals/refrences a human takes in that have been created other humans or from nature, from all the things an artist sees I their daily lives as 'inspiration', to the references they download from the internet.

[@joannot6706]

Well it's called fair use and transformative work. People were all for it when it came to youtubers wanting fair use as they sometimes displayed copyrighted materials on their videos. But suddenly fair use is not so well liked. kind of a double standards there.

[@seiorai_art]

@@joannot6706 Ah yes the fair use argument from another user has no idea about copyright laws :)) Please remix a known song, release it and I'll grab my popcorn to watch the lawsuit

[@joannot6706]

@@seiorai_art Ah yes Image generators are song generators.

[@24TONS_]

AI can be threatening in any job field. I'm a software engineer and there's always talk about AI replacement in years to come. I doubt it will phase out human work in general, it will become an assistant to professional environments!

[@samuelkibunda6960]

Damn! Ai threatening both of my fields!

[@mello.1483]

Detroit become human

[@shimonking1986]

true, artists will just have to go first

[@samuelkibunda6960]

@@shimonking1986 really dystopian future there trusting our art to AI.

[@shimonking1986]

@@samuelkibunda6960 it gets dystopier when we trust everything with ai - code, cars, food... etc

[@shredd5705]

For now it's underpainting... but the AI learns and evolves all the time, because it's self-learning. It already fixed bunch of problems with face anatomy, in matter of weeks. I can see how this could end in a disaster for us digital artists. At some point people start to use it to discredit digital painters. Saying AI did the most, or AI did everything, not following, nothing to see here etc... of course people who already have 1.44 million subs won't suddenly lose them. But new digital painters will have very hard time impressing anyone in Instagram etc.

[@escribopapelitos]

Exactly. At this rate, this will cull all up-and-coming artists because the market will be flooded with (sadly) very beautiful, instant AI generated art. So only a select few real artists will have work, but even then, the AI will learn to emulate them too 😪

[@shredd5705]

@@escribopapelitos Yup. The people behind this remind me of Jurassic Park. "You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, that nobody stopped to think if they should"

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@shredd5705 Or they did think about it, but have no sense of ethics or human concern for art people. I've met concerningly many who feel that way.

[@stanhry]

I think if it could learn the artist own style and learn with the artist. AI seems to help with redundancy tasks. it gives many variations, you still need an artistic eyes to say that is bad or not. If it could learn your personal eye. That is the true future.

[@mrrickstur]

Yeah I feel like it’s hard to really call it your own art if the AI came up with the compositions, perspective, anatomy, values, and colors, while all you have to do is make a few touch ups and edits.

[@alxandercontreras]

I love everyone's optimism, but history has taught me that improvement in technology has reduced the need for human labor in many industries. What used to take 5 artists to complete by a deadline, one artist can complete in a fraction of time. Less artists have the opportunity to make a living doing what they love. It's a bit sad and I refuse to use AI in my work. Call me dramatic, but I said what I said.

[@CHAN0dg]

Imagina si sos artista latinoamericano. En la ruina quedamos jaja

[@PippetWhippet]

I hear you, but humanity striving for a better future means we are heading to a future where no human has to work - no one’s idea of utopia involves them working. People will still make art, but it won’t be for a living, it will be for the love of making art. Which doesn’t help, I know, we are in a time where we have the ability to ensure a good 76-80% of humanity do not need to work, because they can be replaced with current technology, but doing so will cause misery for billions and put them all into extreme poverty. You’re not alone, every industry will face the same problem at some time or another, but we need to move away from the idea that your value is derived from what you do, and it’s value to others.

[@alxandercontreras]

@@PippetWhippet Like I said, I love optimism. You seem to have a lot of it. However, I am talking about the here and now. Maybe 500+ years from now, a utopia would be plausible. Using AI in art as a one-off like Ross did for this video is fine with me, but I am against AI generators becoming a staple in the art industry.

[@samalass466]

@@PippetWhippet no, it will mean more of us require high skill tech jobs or we all become lazy fat asses.

[@CatrickSwayze99]

@@alxandercontreras well no matter how you feel about it. its there and it will stay and it will be used and you will put yourself in a disadvantageous position if you refuse to open up to it. kind of like saying "I boykott the invention of cars and just ride my horses." Nothing wrong with it but you wont be able to compete and then better just continue this as a hobby. Dont get me wrong I have mixed feelings about all of this too but closing down and getting into a state of rejection is the worst possible solution.

[@minecraftisbetterthanfortn7465]

Also Ross in the video you mentioned 'AI is something similar to digital artists being called cheater's in the traditional art community. But the problem is the only thing digital does is allow you to erase your mistakes and brushes and blend better. You still need anatomy knowledge, lightning, composition, perspective etc like the traditional artist to do stuff digitally, but that does not have the same effect as an AI doing almost 90% of the fundamentals for you. This is a whole different league in that field. This can create weaker and cheat artists on social media and devalue digital art And the thing you said about photobashjng is valid but the thing is photobashing gave it a feel, and when done with brushed it looked right but we can't say the same about an AI I feel like people are 100% right to be afraid of this as the only art that would be fine would probably be 3d artist

[@irouzw4515]

not to mention AI just basically rips off years and years of artists work without their consent and mashes them into something else with 0 consequence or effort

[@gabrielwachong8374]

It will produce a lot of "artists" that cant even draw a straight line or circle on a piece of paper

[@archi7005]

I totally agree. Also, I hate it because it encourages people or clients to just look at the finished product with a 0 fvckn soul and disregard the skill and craftsmanship of the artist to do those kinds of work.

[@gabrielwachong8374]

@@archi7005 producer will just go and hire their cousin to prompt in some words in a machine and be done with that. They wont even need an artist involved in the process anymore. Btw the results will be trash, just to be clear on that. The devastation that AI will do to humanity by taking away art and creativity is going to be insane. We will loose so much and wont even know it until it is gone forever. Thank you greedy irresposible devs!

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

There's a very clear distinction between the two. If I commission someone, no matter how detailed I am with my description or through what kind of art I commission, I (as the commissioner) is not the artist. Ai is the exact same process. The only difference is you've replaced the person you're commissioning with a machine. They're logically speaking not artists.

[@nannalindgaard2188]

I personally don't think AI will replace artists, due to the fact that we as humans always strive to create. So even if AI art could be perfected and look like masterpieces we humans will always want to continue to create our own art. I don't doubt however, that it can be a helpful tool, especially when it comes to concept art and to get the brain going.

[@poopoodemon7928]

I think most people mean that artist will be mostly out competed in the job market. Yeah there's gonna be demand for human made art but by in large corporations and other businesses are gonna want AI artist as the tech improves and becomes cheaper.

[@md.boujee]

One thing still sure tho, the amount of artists will decrease trought time, as every other jobs due to AI

[@OskaPa]

I believe it will just cheapen it, we already see multiple AI artist pop up who insignificantly edit the color of the AI creation and sell for prints

[@dragonwarriorz1]

You will always have to wonder from now on if a piece of art is man-made, or computer-made. People who aren't skilled at art will prefer to just let AI take over and do the work for them rather than have to go through the arduous process of learning how to make good art. It's definitely a bad thing for artists and will lessen creativity, as well as extremely oversaturate the market more so than it already is. Thousands of art pieces, or maybe even tens or hundreds of thousands of art, will be made every second by AI. Perhaps this has already happened and is happening right now. The human artistic spirit is in trouble and will have to compete in vain with a far superior artist: the computer.

[@slick3869]

It will in some cases tho. There will be no place for amateur artists because nobody will pay for mediocre art. People doing commission work for example wount be needed cus u can just let the ai draw ur oc for free looking like it was done by some pro. This technology is in its early stages, its only a matter of a few years maybe months until it learns how to depict perfect proportions. It already creates art thats close to outperform even some pros. I'd like to think that artists will get appreciated for their work but the reality is, nobody pays u for stuff they could get for free in infinite quantity. The competition will be way stronger with only the most skilled of all being able to make a decent living in illustration and concept art jobs. Thats how i see it

[@ItachiLion]

The biggest problem is for starting artist, the Art sites are too overloaded with AI, for the TOP artists it's gonna be the same, for new ones pretty impossible

[@Danilla229]

it's same for all artists. its like to be a writing machine operator when everybody else just say things to their phone and it writes them down. Frustrating indeed.

[@tom_stephen]

Depends on whether top artists will incorporate AI into their workflow or not. If not, it will be also tougher even for top ones, as they will get harsher deadlines. The only escape for them will be companies that will focus specifically on non-AI art, but let's be honest, there will be way more artists than demand (as this is already current state of things)

[@anonnymous7009]

There are still people with more followers and more gains than others. You just need to become even better. And if you problem ever was that you don't think you can become good enough to become popular I don't know if you would have made it before AI.

[@Rampawn]

@@anonnymous7009 ah, a dumb comment from an ignorant person, like "just get better" is an actual solution

[@naraku971]

Even Pinterest which isn't an art site is flooded with AI, there's a guy who thinks that his generations are better than anything any artist can come up with and that his generations which very clearly look like they're melting in some areas are better than actual artists. Oh, and he thinks that everything he creates is one hundred percent his (despite the fact that The US court of copyright has said that all ai images are public domain), that drawing art based on it is a lie, and is impossible, and he really hates me because I have downloaded a good number of pieces that he generated, and drawn my own versions of the generations, and they're getting more attention than he is.

[@m0ckyzo185]

I'm gonna be real y'all; photography(once it got good) did a number on the painting industry, and I honestly think this is gonna be the same way. It's a matter of big corps choosing what's easier, cheaper and faster rather than what's better.

[@mikafizz1022]

Yes, but HISTORICALLY photography forced artists to make even more creative art styles and allowed artists more freedom so they didn't have to constantly recreate a picture for of a leaf or object for a dictionary or something. So if you're going with that historical aspect as a highlight and this could be a similar outcome, then it can lead us to even more creative things!

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@mikafizz1022 Ai is supposed to learn from whatever we do and make more of it, though. It's literally made to be able to reproduce anything we do. /:

[@mikafizz1022]

​@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 Well, I'm not completely sold on AI ART yet, BUT. It's kind of just recreating the creative art evolution of mankind, I think it's speeding it up for us. Within the context of the historic example I was talking about, that seems like it can be utilized for further creativity. It's probably going to make more "artists" easier, but the craft will still be up to us. One positive I'm thinking currently is that, I have SOOOOO many worlds and characters I'm designing, it would be awesome if AI could help me get there faster! Fewer wrist injuries for people too! Looking forward to your response!

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@mikafizz1022 Why would the craft be up to us? Ai is a thousand and one times faster at replicating any style a human can make and makes up designs instantly. And if you don't like something you can just generate a thousand more images to choose from. Sure, you can decide to make things yourself, but financially and effectively speaking it's not competitive or optimal. On top of that I can see artistic creativity taking a hit, as artists no longer have to work out designs because the Ai does it all for them. Make no mistake, I don't think the human is the artist here, simply the commissioner to the Ai. I can't see why it would be any other way. And on top of _that_ it's even more possible than now your creation will never be seen in the first place, as it's flooded thousands of other ai-generated pieces of content, because everyone can make them in an instant. Can't even casually browse the Internet for art without being flooded by it already, and most don't even tag it as ai-made. Imagine what it'll be like when you can't tell ai-generated images from man-made ones. I can't help but think artists are completely outcompeted. With some luck we survive because people care, if not we'll go the way of the horses being replaced by cars.

[@mikafizz1022]

@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 uhhhh but this is really pessimistic dude. ART is extremely valuable to the entire human race, just because gorgeous images made by AI might become easier accessible, it's still up to creative minds to utilize these tools. Besides, I mean to be a little bit optimistic.. what is old becomes new time and time again. So maybe the rise of a high speed AI art everyone market will make mediums like 2d traditional art come back! There are lots of mediums and cultural things that are becoming more antiquities of past generations than anything. I guess I just have alotta faith in our creativity and our zest for life. I'm unsure about it in some places like you are, but I have been kinda excited as well; I have TONS of stories, worlds, characters I want to make. AI seems like it could be a great option for me to make my concept art faster and I think it could be a pretty good tool to study art theory from. Maybe it might be more fair to the art community if AI Art was always disclaimed and under computer/tech categories? Or like if they were allowed in award shows, their own category? I think whatever we do we need a SPLIT between what is authentic and what is produced by an algorithm, but also allow people to mix those two "mediums" together. Like we need a balance definitely. But if it helps AT ALL there is an artist that said AI art us going to be worse off for companies with massive IP like Disney and stuff, because this tool (AI Art) is becoming so accessible to us creators as well. Like I've always wanted a still frame of the images that pop into my head, but I can't hold it long enough it's too blurry, AI can help that too, when we have specific concepts? (Sorry kinda rambling it's late and I'm enjoying the conversation with you lol)

[@edhit2240]

Unfortunately the problem with this sort of AI goes deeper than that. These companies are openly admitting to datamine any artwork you publish in the web and feed it to their tool with the aim to profit from billions of pictures without the creator' permission . For example, there are still issues with occasional Stock Sites watermark appearing in Midjourney or Craiyon. That's why they should be called out for being glorified photobashing tools on the bleeding edge of copyright laws.

[@partobakhtiary7954]

Huh. I didnt think of that. You are right They are using peoples art without permission to make other artists lives harder

[@SomePersonOnYoutube]

They are not glorified photobashing tools first of all. These AI image generators generally working by learning based off of existing AI and creating new images based on the model trained by existing images. The image generator and the actual database are completely encapsulated from each other.

[@Cyberpunk644]

@@partobakhtiary7954 how do you think real artist come up with "New" ideas, they reference/steal from whole bunch others, then make it their own. whether its taking color scheme, composition, little cool shapes here and there. AI just does it to millions of images.

[@Racatama]

@@Cyberpunk644 When artists steal, they do it in a way that help all the community. Because they create something new that inspire. (this is why artists are fascinated by this Ai). But the artists who take someone else art piece and sell it as their own have always been hated and called out. This AI is exactly doing the second thing. It is stealing everyone styles and everyone jobs.

[@Cyberpunk644]

@@Racatama blah blah blah, get on with it, future is coming, who gives a shit.

[@zuzu.soltys]

I think artists will always have a bit of advantage over AI,because we have feelings and emotions and we can express them in our original and unique way(AI can't do that for now,but maybe much more later it could)but I guess we never know,so let's just try to have strong foundation and maybe have a bit of fun with AI

[@hananeqorar2510]

This ai art app seem to have more emotions than I do or than I can express in my art 😭

[@zuzu.soltys]

@@hananeqorar2510 😭😭i konw what you mean😭😭but because AI is searching through the whole internet it will only do what is already on the internet. That's where you can really push your creativity and uniqueness and make something interesting (that AI maybe can't do)

[@astra8372]

If they create an AI that is capable of feeling emotions then they basically create a metal human, which I believe is a possible future -that could lead to robots taking over the world- for humanity

[@hananeqorar2510]

@@astra8372 I don’t think ai is bad , but an AI with emotions treated badly possibly will behave like humans and wont accept it , and taking the humans actions in count they will most likely treat it bad , if even within the only human relationship can’t be humble to each other then no need to talk about a machine , another thing AI may think we should be eliminated for the good of other species ,,, this could easly end up In a long talk

[@astra8372]

@@hananeqorar2510 i think something like that would only happen gradually and humanity would be smart enough to catch up in time and change their behaviour

[@ceresria]

I doubt AI would ever replace artists; however its definitely useful as a tool for concepting and quick scenes. Its really interesting to see the paintover process using them, I can definitely imagine it being used more often especially in the industry where speed is key.

[@charleslavoie7622]

I was actually just playing with AI art for the first time yesterday. I gotta say, it's pretty good at producing balanced images, nice colors, shapes and textures !

[@ultimateswx]

I really like this application of using AI art. Basically being able to take cool color palettes, shapes, and backgrounds and adding your own creativity and knowledge of art fundamentals to it.

[@HematitaChannel]

I just want to say... thank you. I'm someone who has loved trying to make art since I was a kid, but my own depression and fear of failure are such demotivators. It's like I never felt good enough. I never wanted to be professional, just have a way to get my fanart ideas out there and such. AI art has been so inspiring for me, leaving me feeling the most creatively unfettered as I've ever felt in my life, so the toxic backlash has been... saddening to me. For me, a graphic designer who loves also making fanart, it just feels like another tool. An awesome tool. Thank you for making this video.

[@RakugakiRebel]

I actually did a video essay for my school about if AI could replace artists haha 😂 I concluded that yes, they can replace SOME artists that don’t have something better to offer in technical skills or ideas, but the artists that would thrive are the ones that use AI to their advantage.

[@sodakhanart]

Agreed!

[@fernandasicsu6587]

Once you open the AI can of worms there is no going back

[@ronniemorris5386]

I have a bit of a mixed answer. I was thinking of how the AI was able to recognize different artists' styles and render a similar looking image. While I don't think this will be a problem in the near future, I can imagine the AI learning enough that it would be able to present high enough renders that would work for certain situations, possible reducing the amount of artists required. I definitely don't think it will ever replace the need for artists though. I think that adapting and using AI as a tool, like you said, is the perfect response. Your video was a perfect example of that. Thank you for the wonderful introduction of AI as a tool! I had never thought of it before and it's very exciting to imagine the pieces that will come. :D

[@EmpressLinx]

I feel that having a healthy, balanced relationship with AI (like a collab partner) is a great direction for us creatives moving forward. Whether we like it or not, AI has been becoming a fundamental aspect of our lives that we’re needing to adapt to. I feel the question comes down to the relationship one has with it: Do you see yourself as the master and the AI as a tool? Do you see the AI as the genius and yourself as the supplement? Or (as I prefer) do you see yourselves both as expressions of life (biological & technological), seeking to collaborate with a shared interest and curiosity for life?

[@escribopapelitos]

You're anthropomorphizing AI. Maybe we could see this as a collab between the artist and the programmers, but even then... I think it's very depressing.

[@mikafizz1022]

eh careful there, we're talking about programs made for profit

[@EmpressLinx]

@@johngreen9825 Some gems here. Thanks for the reply John :D Regardless of our relationship with it, I think at the end of the day A.I (or C.I [Cyber Intelligence] as I prefer to label it) can at best mimic & pull from what already exists, as you've pointed out John. It needs something to start from in order to make something. Therein lies the limitations of A.I art: It can not create from nothing. What we humans can do, and have proven throughout millennia, is that we have the capacity and potential to create from nothing so to speak; from the infinite realms of imagination (to give that space of nothingness a label). Looking into the long-term development of A.I/C.I in 30+ years from now give or take, I think and feel this is what it's going to come down to: Us natural humans tapping into the infinite realms of imagination, with A.I/C.I pulling from what already exists that we've imagined into existence. How will the art industry look by then? Dunno, honestly. However, I firmly feel that those of us with the awareness to notice will see through the A.I/C.I's veils of mimicry and into the soul of our fellow human's great work. We'll see the uniqueness & imagination their human spirit has brought forth into manifestation, and become drawn to that; like bees to pollen, those of us with that soul-level awareness will naturally bypass the cyberspace realms of A.I/C.I (and whatever corporate infrastructure it's affiliated with), and resonate with the imaginative work of our like-minded kin. Well that's how I personally see it going anyway. Feel free to disagree :3

[@moomimi]

There's a saying for starving artist. Bringing ai art to compete with real artist will pulverize the art community as a whole.

[@mikafizz1022]

@@EmpressLinx I understand your optimism and I'm hoping AI can help me create art faster, but please don't sidestep and ignore the glaring issues too. We need to have disclaimers for when AI art is used so we can differentiate what was handmade or not, case in point the guy winning an art contest without doing a bit of drawing. That's a horrible use of ai art, because essentially that was a commissioner claiming the skill of an AI based on the foundation of every artist ever on the internet.

[@joope125]

You seem so happy to be painting. I'm envious, but it makes me happy to see someone enjoy something

[@joannot6706]

4:01 back when midjourney sucked at making faces It has improved so much so fast!

[@Yuu-dc9id]

I don't think AI could replace artists but it can definitely help artists in many ways as you've shown in the video! The keyframes it came up with really surprised me because it didn't feel artificial at all, they all had some kind of emotion that they give off!

[@AlexLopez-uu2wb]

In my oppinion AI is a cool tool for having fun and just exploring with different styles and stuff but... Also I think if used as a proffesional daily workflow can be a creativity-killer, it already gives the artist a whole pre-made atmosphere and skips all the figurative process of creating an artpiece which I think is key to develop artistic vision and just talent. In addition I personally love the magic of art beign something human, it just gives it more vallue

[@NahomyMcqueen]

YESS!!!

[@AZTECMAN]

Thanks for doing this! I've been really wanting to see something like this for a couple months now.

[@queen_ch3rry]

This is the first video I've seen where a creator mixes AI with, well, still being creative! And to be honest... I love it! It feels so much more genuine than the many accounts that have popped up on IG and beyond, comprised of nothing but unaltered AI images. As a person who spends hours (days, weeks, etc) doing a painting, I felt insignificant seeing the changes happening with some people jumping on the wagon to make impressive galleries with only machine-derived art. But seeing what you do here feels good... it feels right. It's almost like taking a piece of marble and carving what lies within. The marble is your base/starter, but YOU still put in the extra time to give it a human touch. I got the Midjourney invite 2 weeks after I requested it, and have been debating what to learn and create... this gives me an exciting jumping off point!

[@jelanibyrd5031]

I LOVE how you compared the ai base to marble. I can't remember from where, but I remember hearing that some sculptors could "feel" the finished piece by looking at the raw stone. The ai can serve to inspire us but it's not making the finished pieces. There are millions of styles yet to be drawn that an ai might have difficulty producing without human instruction.

[@cyberyikes2345]

In my opinion, I feel like AI art can contribute to the artist. Especially when said artist is struggling on generating a concept. I think its a positive tool, but it's understandable that many are skeptical about ai in the art field.

[@sentient2688]

Struggling to think of concepts and ideas is normal.. it gets your brain thinking. This shouldn’t become a substitute for developing patience and imagination

[@cyberyikes2345]

@@sentient2688 I completely agree with you! If anything it should just be used as a study rather than a final product of a project!

[@briannaro3078]

@@sentient2688 maybe not generate an idea or concept but what about helping to create a visual of it. This could be a good way to test the waters of an idea. Let’s say you want to draw a steampunk robot riding a dragon. How would that idea look and would it even be good so the ai can create a composition. It won’t be the most perfect representation but it can be a way to get an idea out there

[@madshader]

Copium.

[@powowbunnyb0081]

I was thinking that as well, however, I wonder if it would be considered "art theft" of sorts as artists are unknowingly sampled to create the work by the AI. Like how ethical is it for artists to use the AI as a tool?

[@pentachronic]

Great commentary and perspective. AI seems to be very good at giving a new point of view for "backdrops" but it still takes a skilled artist to fix the proportions, lighting, feelings and story of a scene. That's where an Artists skills are.

[@calypsyph5205]

Thank you for making this video!! It really makes me feel more comfortable accepting ai generated art, and has shown me its pros! Hope you're doing well! :D

[@RamianP]

that was actually really fun to watch, please more :) As a small tip for next time: Use keywords and seperate them with a comma only (like: Anime Girl looking up, pink hair, sunset, ghibli, rossdraws etc.) worked very well for me

[@annorraxx4341]

It’s easy for already established artists with clients and a following to accept AI art. But think about artists that are just starting, or artists who have been grinding for years and are still unknown. They will be so discouraged and feel purposeless.

[@lunamiku4166]

Spot on

[@heybutwhy3421]

I don’t think AI can replace artists (I believe art is reflection of people). It can help with the work though (helping with art block, making backgrounds). I personally overlayed AI generated art over a part of a picture I took recently, just to enhance the mood of it. Turned out amazing.

[@skyeshi3570]

As someone who commissions art and plays tabletops alot, it definatly helps to make visual references for artists, and making quick characters for a game that are unique

[@brianahawkins8124]

Love all your speed painting's. :D

[@PegLights_]

Ross was so right at the end of the video, how when something new and life changing enters out art community we are most likely to fear it and stay away. It reminded me of the first time I got my digital Wacom tablet, I was so damn excited but got overwhelmed and didn't end up touching it again after a month.😅 "Do you think AI could replace artist?" It's a very difficult question because you never know what the future could be for artist. I think AI would be an amazing tool to use when coming up with concepts and ideas. Another thing is people can use AI to choose their fav AI generated image, then pay an artist to 'fix it'. Its like AI needs artists, without artist theres only limited resources for AI to scan across the whole internet to make an image.

[@TheShuuman]

I can respect the opinion here, but for someone like me who only started learning to draw four years ago, struggled through my twenties about what I want to do with myself, finally understand that I truly want to go into animation then A.I. Art begins to explode all over and its like what happens to me? Say I grind and grind and say by the time I'm 40 (32 now) my skill has increased to a respectable state and I can even animate on my own reliably. Will there even be a market to break into at that point for me? Would my dream be dead in the water before I even make the attempt or am I just doomed to get washed out? When one thinks about that it can be a truly scary and demoralizing possiblity.

[@GhostMotion-ig8px]

People often say things like this: "I think AI would be an amazing tool to use when coming up with concepts and ideas." If you use AI, then the ideas and concepts aren't really yours. You may tweak things a bit from what AI gives you, but the resulting work is objectively less of your own self-expression at that point than something you would have imagined and created on your own. It doesn't reflect as much of you as it would had you come up with those ideas yourself. So all art will be less authentic if people are using AI to help them come up with ideas. We're going to be seeing tons of artwork based on ideas people didn't even come up with themselves. To be blunt, if you need something to come up with ideas for you, you are in the wrong field. Looking at reference and other artists work for inspiration is usually different because you may draw concepts and ideas from other images but you have to integrate them in your own way, requiring manual decision-making to do so. The result still has to be filtered through your own inner artistic eye before it comes out onto the canvas. This is not so with AI. As used in this video, I wouldn't really consider those works to be that of RossDraws. These are works that were mostly created by AI, and edited by RossDraws. AI gets most of the credit for these works

[@PegLights_]

@@GhostMotion-ig8px couldn’t agree more! My opinions definitely changed now revolving around AI, and you said it very well. I never even touched AI because I fear that it would affect my ability to make up concepts and ideas myself. I have a strong feeling that artist also don’t touch AI because of that reason, except the AI users that aren’t considered artist.

[@GhostMotion-ig8px]

@@PegLights_ Thank you for your response. It is awesome to hear that you chose to have faith in yourself and your own artistry. That is what art is all about!

[@anshboultmusic]

Ross this was an amazing video!!! I don't think that A.I could ever replace the creative mind and imagination of humans, there are no limits to the crativity and imagination of artists, it's limitless!

[@Steamrick]

It's incredible that this video was only a year ago. The output quality of Midjourney has imrpoved so freaking much in the meantime...

[@weebo2328]

Awesome video. It's only the beginning. I'm glad that artists also find some value in it. I think it can be used to learn an art style. You generate things in a particular art style and analyze what you like about it and copy it adding your own variation. It can help with diversity.

[@leavemealone802]

Edit: this comment was made before I watched the whole video. I am happy we kind of reach for the same conclusion I am very excited for this new development honestly. I see art as a form of expression of a person. Is more than just technic or experience. Is also about what you want to say and express. Is about ideas and heart. And that will always be unique, because we are all unique. I see AI generation, a form to improve our work. If we know what we are doing, we will be able to use AI to our benefit. And also, I think this can kill art block! Don't know how to draw this idea? Put it in the AI generator, find a picture you like and use and edit as much as you want until you are satisfied Seriously, the possibilities are endless. AI is not our enemy

[@cloudisaurus]

That's an interesting question, whether AI could replace artists, and honestly I don't think it would be able to. I think in the for now it would be good to view it as a tool rather than something that is threatening : )

[@madshader]

Oh it will be able to. Believe it. I have seen the things it can do and we are just in the infancy. Give it a year, and you will be singing a different tune. I am sad about it, but also I've decided to try and leverage it to my advantage. Others may need to do the same unless you are in the top 1% of artists.

[@geogs_art]

Probably with enough dataset, it could. just give it time to develop

[@shimonking1986]

@@madshader wdym by "leverage it to my advantage"?

[@wyrmghost]

With how fast it’s growing and how many companies don’t respect their artist I think it’ll definitely hurt so many artists in industry positions especially for advertising and concept art.

[@agmasonyeo664]

I don't think this will ever 'replace' artists. I think these are amazing tools that help inspire new concepts in our art and expand the imagination. Everyone is freaking out and I'm just completely in awe of it. I've already used midjourney a teeny bit (will definitely buy a membership next paycheck) and it's a fun tool for when you really don't have an idea to draw or have an idea but are not sure how to make the hand do what the brain wants it to do. Idk how to describe it properly. Either way, I think it's neat.

[@janwelander4110]

What real artists love is the craft, creating something with one's own hands from one's own imagination, whether it is illustrations, paintings, music, books, music, etc. AI simply cannot replace that.

[@BrendanDickinsonUnity]

No way AI would completely replace artists, but I do think it's a great new tool for artists to leverage to help with several things you addressed in the video! As a software engineer myself I love Midjourney and being able to generate images and refine them through variations, it makes me feel like a young child where the limit is my own imagination.

[@pnarypop]

@Jude Gervoso That’s what I was thinking too 😞

[@wallofsoundandmusic345]

You literally described it replacing artists lol. These ai people...

[@RossDraws]

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[@mikafizz1022]

@@wallofsoundandmusic345 tool for everyone basically I guess

[@shiwakao]

i feel like a lot of artists are chronically stuck in the mindset of creating everything from scratch n cementing their own style which can be good for building skills n a brand/identity but they also need to remember that being an "artist" is fundamentally abt personalization. any tool is valid as long as it enables you to use it for your own needs n doesn't impede on other artists.

[@queen_ch3rry]

Very valid and well thought out point of view! I started as a traditional artist way before I ever got into digital and always believed everything had to come from my brain only, because looking at a photographer's image for reference seemed "uncreative" and that I wasn't truly thinking for myself. This is the first time I have seen AI used for a tool much like a reference photo in some ways, and much like an eraser or ruler, if used with a wise and open mind, it's a great helper to the finished product. For me, AI has come up with colors and ideas I never dreamed of, and I look up a lot of fantasy refs, so that's been an amazing experience 😁

[@jei-el2139]

Ross! I’ve been watching video after video about AI trying to find one that was relevant to me as an illustrator. This was an INCREDIBLE show of how AI can be helpful. Not only can you use it as an underpainting, a base but also to vanquish the dreaded “blank page”. Don’t know what to draw? Type in a prompt and create as many variations as you need till you hit that sweet spot. One the sweet spot is achieved, use that image to reimagine it as your own.

[@saauden]

Personally, the ethics of a good artist or a good creator always win, is something about how much honesty you put in your work to be better artist each day! If you don’t have any idea about color, composition, and light you can’t use the IA to make a good piece. In other hand I will always prefer make my works with my own, and still learning about art, drawing more and more. Never forget that imagination doesn’t have limits, the images generators are limited! The process in the soul and brain is very different when you’re drawing than when you’re tapping a text on Mid journey… it’s Ok as a tool for real artist. 😊

[@LO.U]

I personally don't think AI will entirely replace artists. I can see it taking over other fields of work, but with creative content, I think it'll be more of a tool than the new sole creator. Ultimately I believe that we'll still value man-made art above that made by a computer alone. IMO it's still a fun thing though! Will definitely help with art block and inspiration in general, maybe for more than just art.

[@mikafizz1022]

Yeah we need to value what has hard work versus a super hyper engineered thing. Kids' drawings on fridges will always be endearing!

[@dratiniboi7165]

Thank you and welcome back Ross! ✨ I don't think AI would replace artists, at least in the state they are now publicly, with glitchy patches and messy blobs! I think it takes a human brain to communicate shapes and color in a way that is relevant to the underlying story of a painting, which AI don't get and instead take input at face value for a quickly tangible result. I also think it can do good things for artists when it's used as a tool, like Clip Studio Paint's AI colorization!

[@kinn11]

wow, the app's final piece really blew me away! so sick!

[@imbot8683]

cannot completely replace in my opinion as there will still be artists who do art for fulfillment and hobby even if there is a.i doing most of the work in art industry.

[@J0sh8o8]

I love using midjourney to just play around with and create really cool concepts and foundations for things but like I could see why ai can be a problem but I highly doubt it'll overtake the unique and creative minds of artists out there.

[@LucasSweden]

new video, a lot of joy for us!

[@Gunrunn3rTV]

Interesting watch! Perfect verdict. Thanks!

[@yuihoshi]

This is a really cool and smart way to use technology to help your own creative process instead of thinking AI will replace us artists. I don't think AI will ever replace us, but we can definitelly use this as a tool to help us create more.

[@niccolodagruma]

I dont think it could ever replace artists. I think ai can become a tool for artists but technology cant replace the human creativity and mind, what makes a human so great is our ability to imagine, and create things that have never been made before. There are a lot of reasons I guess but in simple terms art is simply humans expressing themselves, the ai has no love, inspiration or passion to pour into its art.

[@johnsmith3226]

So true

[@keekee300]

Exactly. Ai needs to be instructed while artists can create based on what they are feeling or like. Unless Ai's become too smart and decides to erase human beings.

[@noobatredstone3001]

Yes it could, of course it could. Don’t confuse artists and people. You don’t need an artist to instruct an a.i. As for the quality, look at some stuff that dalle 2 creates. Feels a bit threatening already lol.

[@moorhsum9755]

@@noobatredstone3001 Art isn't only about quality, technique or composition. Art is about feelings, perspective (as in, perspective on life/the world and subjectivity) and creativity. AI may be able to understand the definition of melancholy and make a painting based on it, but because it is devoid of feelings or a unique perspective, it will always only be able to reproduce what has been done before, never innovate. Truly, the only innovation AI brings, is the creation of *truly* meaningless art. AI lack feelings and a unique perspective, and the "decisions" it takes are purely based on algorithm, there is no original meaning of thought associated with the art. Meaningless art doesn't lack value however, because as humans, we will always interpret and find symbolism in art, it just lacks a human connection between the artist, the art and the consumer + the sense of "artistic direction". There is no direction to be had when there is no thinking involved.

[@noobatredstone3001]

@@moorhsum9755 I see your point. People aren’t as creative as you’d think though. A lot of our “creativity” comes from the same source as that of AI in fact -prior examples. While AI has no concept of feelings whatsoever, its database is vastly superior, to the point where it can simply imitate. I’ll have to correct my initial statement, it’s the illustrations that might get almost completely replaced by AI. In a hypothetical scenario where it achieves the levels of human art (in technique), people would have to create some deeply philosophical works to stand out.

[@bastelbutze]

I love midjourney. I type in stuff and it sparks my creativity flow with all dem cursed images. It's like seeing things in the clouds and it erases my fear of the white sheet of paper.

[@andreap8008]

omg is so beautiful how the IA captures feelings in the illustrations

[@minecraftisbetterthanfortn7465]

Hey Ross the thing is Its not about replacing artist its About The Social media Artist that the AI will be having issues With I mean i get the point of AI being used in industries making the workflows like 10x faster but we cant say the same about freelancers on social media that are trying to grow using social media As 1) Ai can produce composition that people struggle and take time with 2) Ai can do 50% of the work and the rest is the artist work that is rendering and fixing stuf 3) Yea professionals wont be having issues at work but man composition making is such a fun thing to do and having AI replace it kinda feels like art wont be about creating something it will be of completing unfinished pieces and fixing errors rather than creating something 4) Its going to get harder to grow on social media when things like this can just create compositions and stuff within minutes and people who are new will be competing with People who make 4 post per day (art) using AI 5) Idk Kinda ruins the fun part of mistakes and creating something IMP and Digital art will be more looked down on now that people will literally say (you take a ai generated picture and fix it,THATS NOT ART) by most people 6) For Professionals its great i agree but for Freelance and beginners who want to grow this might be an issue and same in public view as the value of art might go down 7) Yea in short most people might stop focusing time on foundations and go for this idk if you agree with this or not but this is my personal opinion after seeing social media and people talking about this You can disagree on this and give me critiques

[@kenzacker1476]

makes sense

[@lordvaltasar4646]

no bot can ever replace artists, it can lower the point of entry to art, which is a good thing. the way i see it, it's kinda like using references, it just combines many of them into one image automatically, that said, i have not tried it myself yet

[@aliciabasir]

Lowering the point of entry in a already oversaturated world has nothing good about it.

[@lordvaltasar4646]

@@aliciabasir not for artists, but for most people it allows them to do things they weren't able to before, i'm also an artist and my commissions got hit pretty hard by the wave of bots, but my personal loss doesn't lessen the benefits others will have. and either way, once something like this is out, there's no going back, so we have to learn to live with them

[@aliciabasir]

@@lordvaltasar4646 No, this abomination cant be accepted. Artists need to unite and sue this garbage and fast.

[@oisinwachholz9464]

The biggest thing that separates AI and human art is the story that's conveyed through the piece! I love messing around with these AI tools but without a practiced artist behind the scenes, the generated art's story-telling is vague and generic at best. I think these tools are great assets that will help artists do a bit of heavy lifting(like helping me pick good colors for a landscape) but no AI can replace each artist's unique story/personality!!

[@silentsiren4797]

i agree!

[@JamesJones-zt2yx]

"The Final Battle"... I'd go see that movie. I think you're right; AI can be a very useful tool.

[@lilredhead17]

I don't think AI will replace artists. AI will always miss the story telling part without input. I think it'd be awesome to co-exist with AI tho. Your video proves what awesome end results we could achieve together

[@shimonking1986]

So art directors will stay, the actual artists that work under them will go..

[@lilredhead17]

@@shimonking1986 how so? 🤔 I think creating art contains of a lot of parts. Thinking of what to make (seems like you only reserve this to art directors), thumbnailing (which can easily done by AI), creating a piece (which for now is human only, but could be done with AI as well), and giving it "soul". Compare it to realistic paintings, just because we can make pictures now adays, does not mean the craft of creating realistic portraits has gone out of the window. They're still being made and celebrated. Even though a camera can do the same, and often times better 😁

[@shimonking1986]

@@lilredhead17 the thing is most of the companies and clients in the industry don't want "soul" or whatever you wanna call it, they want a practical piece of art that is good enough to use in their game/movie/album cover etc... of course human made art will stay, but it will become a small niche. at least this is my opinion.

[@shimonking1986]

@@lilredhead17 and btw, in AAA companies the "thinking of what to make" IS only reserved for art directors. that's what I ment. in regular/personal clients, "thinking of what to make" is done by the client.

[@lilredhead17]

@@shimonking1986 then your clientele will change. I never said things wont change, but I don't think it'll die out. Every craft and every profession goes through changes. It might seem sucky, but you gotta change with the times 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@koyffee]

It might in certain aspects and different art fields but as seen in the video currently it can not as it is not as refined as an artist could make it, the anatomy and certain elements were wobbly but if AI was to be improved so that it could read anatomy and make sense of what is happening then it might replace artists in the distant future. However, it could not replace the creativity that artists put in their drawings, it is merely by chance that something like that happens. Artists have emotions and feelings and a mind that can see the impossible and weird as well as things that no one else can interpret. An artist sees different things and translates it into what they see making it their own however and AI merely takes what has already been made and jumbles it together. If AI's dominated the art department there wouldn't be an artist to creatively make ideas, art, or anything that has never been made or challenged before, simply frankinstines of chance. So artists can still thrive alongside AI's, plus it's not entirely bad, people need sparks of creativity that could come from AI's and can also help alongside artists. RIP this was soo long, my fingers are bleeding. This opinion is up to debate I don't like choosing but I think that in some ways yes and others no.

[@pathrisa]

I don't think that AI will replace artist tbh. We love to create, and we all have our unique ideas and visions, however i see the potential in these tools, especially in concept art. I also want to add, that i like that you always positive an open about these topics, and that you can also objectively say your pros and cons. I don't like when people saying like ok xyz is a taboo, don't do that because then you will be less of an artist >.> Anyways! Great video again :3

[@ExplorateurCrypto]

You should have taken the 3rd for YT miniature, it’s such epic !

[@BaobhanloreArt]

An AI art generator taking prompts and almost all of them being booty shots says a lot about popular art nowadays.

[@Hichigo.]

For us Concept Artists, we are fucked...

[@offelambrechts]

I really love that last piece

[@Avenger222]

This is a really good video, thanks for making this!

[@cowbell7573]

true artificial intelligence would definitely be in a position to replace jobs in many different fields, but i personally don't think we will be able to reach that level for awhile, and even if we do, i believe that artists would be one of the more difficult to replace

[@J_Double_C]

I don't think AI will replace artists for the simple fact that this AI is pulling from artist's work to be able to generate the images its making.

[@MIKEHUNT7531]

Yes for now anyway.

[@irouzw4515]

well if we being honest it already has thousands if not billions of images to be set for decades

[@virtuosyc]

True, but there are also a lot of AI-generated images that look unique (as if a human made them) because they're able to overlap existing styles. AI is already able to come up with new styles themselves by mixing the styles of different artists/artworks. I'm not sure artists will stay relevant in terms of coming up with new styles when AI can do the same. Remember, humans are also just referencing this world essentially. Nothing is truly original, and the style of an upcoming artist has no value unless they create art that AI can copy from that point onwards. Going up against AI is an uphill battle.

[@miguelangelcollazo5081]

As Ai art floods the market Ai will be using Ai art to produce more Ai art. Imagine what Ai will be able to do 30 to 50 years from now. We are depriving ourselves of that that makes us human and handing it over to machines. Ai and human artists unifying to create art could be the beginning of cyborg art makers.

[@SomePersonOnYoutube]

What if AI Art becomes so coherent that you are able to train the AI with results from the AI?

[@nixeu5855]

A really interesting video Ross !

[@kupillas-1638]

Holy shit I wanna try this so bad now! Like instant concept art! That’s amazing I’ll definitely come back to this later!

[@mah1ro267]

To be honest: This is the most DEPRESSING technology for my personal life. Yes, sure. AI will never be as 100% perfect as the absolute top-artists. But even just the 90% that the AI can produce are enough for most companies or whatever. So they can get cheap art and many "real" artists are going down - or are FORCED to use the AI too and just do the little polishing in the end to make a living. To me thats not what art is. I want to create art. Not let a program do 90% for me and then just optimize it a little. And the other thing is: This programs use MILLIONS of artworks without consent. So everyone can nearly copy your art with an AI like this with just a few alterations. Yes, humans will always create art. But stuff like this lowers the value of "real" art and the time you invested in it so much, it breaks my heart...

[@yesyouareright9800]

it will surpass them in a couple of years as it has just started and is progressing at high speed

[@spacenomad4477]

I had this realization 6 years ago, when nobody heard about AI generated art yet. Aside form being an artist, I was also a go player. It's a traditional Chinese board game that was for many years uncracable for computers, it was just too complicated and couldn't be brute forced. Then Google announced that their AI, called AlphaGo would have a series of matches with worlds top player, Lee Sedol. I watched them live. Something has ended for me that days. It was hard to explain, but there's beauty in this board game and somehow this AI recreated it. This game also feels like communication, bargaining, and this was there as well. It was uncanny. I felt fear of a new world that was right behind a corner. It came faster that expected and if a program could play this game so well, I knew that other things were just a matter of time. We feel very unique as humans, but soon it might turn out that many of our skills that we built for years are easily replaceable.

[@archi7005]

I feel you. We have the same sentiment and I've been stressing over it a lot lately.

[@dex5368]

Time to go independent. I feel like if anything, it might be able to somewhat replace more industrial art jobs in studios and companies, but if you're an independent artist(like rossdraws), people will want to buy your work because it is YOURS. AI cannot replace that. Instead, you could actually use AI to your ADVANTAGE in that case, just like ross did over here.

[@guillermovaldezchavira8159]

Traditional art gain more popularity because still can't be copy

[@Racatama]

ROSS, PLEASE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. (thank you for your content, btw). PLEASE CONTACT OTHER FAMOUS ARTISTS AND REALLY THINK TOGETHER WHAT IS FOR REAL HAPPENING. WE NEED YOU BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. This is not digital art, this is not photography, this is not a technology to learn and use. This is a technology to replace learning!!! This is the plastic without a recycling system!! It is not made for artists. I know artists can use it, but everyone else can, you don't need skills!! It is made in a way where artists create an archive of art and knowledge made by spending time and effort, and the AI steals everything. It steals the art to feed itself, and it steals the jobs from the person it just stole the art from. EVERYONE CAN USE IT. I am not against allowing everyone to use it. I'm against taking advantage of artists. Every time we evolved with technology in the art field, we had something to learn and use. Whenever we "steal" in art, we do it for the sake of the system. We learn and make something new, we inspire each other. We don't take the picture of another artist art and sell it to a client as if we made it, only because it is faster. Ai is taking a picture of your art and allowing clients to make anything they want with it. I don't think they asked you permission to make art in your style. And I don't think a client will ask your permission to generate with AI something that you could have done for them. Because it is cheaper. You spend money and time to improve your knowledge. They (AI+clients) just climb the fences and steal the fruits. I'm not a programmer, but I think that more stolen art and some changes in the code could make the AI art look even more impressive than how it is already. And I'm quite sure that this will happen. So, how do we protect the artists?? (Artists and creatives cannot accept to be always threaten as the part of society that doesn't matter. Of course, doctors are the first experts needed in an apocalypse. But do you know how many people without entertainment would just get depressed and suicide!? At that point, even doctors would be useless. :P) Jokes aside. HOW DO WE DO ?? I have some idea, but I would like to hear from you all before, thank you. Sorry if I'm not writing in a proper English.

[@Racatama]

Anyway I want to thank you for your content. I went directly to the point, but only because I want to still be able to see in the future communities surrounded by people like you. People who share their positivity and can make someone day with fun and art.

[@Racatama]

@Tio Morôni i bet you have more than that

[@zoe6174]

I agree with you. Sadly, most companies will search for AI cuz it's cheaper and faster, and replace all the workers they can.

[@alidoesdoodles5701]

I don't think that AI would ever be able to completely replace artists. Although it can create really cool concepts and even roughly recreate different styles, I think that people are the ones that can turn a piece into a story, that showcases emotions that they can actually feel. And even if art created by A.I. continues to get better and more refined, A.I. lacks the emotions and quirks that people have that makes their art unique and powerful. Though, it seems like a really helpful tool for artists to use for brainstorming and getting through art block!🌈

[@apelsinkaffs]

I tried this AI 'midjourney' myself, it's amazing thing. It can REALLY help artists to gather ideas/insperation/new look for drawings, so I think it's very good thing. But I also strongly think that in time, when AI learns more and gets 'skillful' about drawing, it will defo replace artists, just like AI did it in netflix series ' Carole & Tuesday ', it won't replace soul tho, but you will never tell the difference without being told if ART was made by human or AI. So yeah, AI will replace artists or humans overall in most parts.

[@randomsketchings]

No way, AI can only add to our imaginations by pulling from imaginations already envisioned. Think of it more like Pintrest but mashing them into one image. AI can only reimagine never replace.

[@Victoria-so1in]

Totally agree

[@randomboiyo6254]

But if you think about it, AI isn’t really “adding” to our imagination. It’s more so creating an interpretation of our imagination.

[@Nadiaxel]

Absolutely do not think that A.I. art can or will replace artists - on the contrary, I think it can be a great tool for artists just as explained by Ross here ^^ I also see these A.I.s as opportunities for clients to bring some references to an artist based on their own keywords! Super excited to see the A.I.s develop C:

[@justsomeguy4260]

Ai WILL replace artists, this stuff is basically out of womb right now, give it a few more years no one will care about artists, that's why I'm changing my career path now

[@Nadiaxel]

@@justsomeguy4260 I just don't agree :) But even if that was the case, there are still plenty of ways for artists to make money.

[@rubyrose6807]

It's a really cool app that makes u get out of ur comfort zone and do sm creative stuff too

[@yggdleaf8817]

Hey Ross. Great video and it`s good to see Milo again XD. I think AI will be a great asset for art in the near future. A lot of people may be fearful of AI in a lot of ways (ejem* Skynet*ejem) but after seeing what it can do to improve your workflow, I believe it really can help a lot of artists as well.

[@arbazali9286]

we could be literally painting over another artist's work using this tool.

[@joeabiro2049]

Wrong objectively wrong.

[@bunnywar]

It's basically stealing art from across the internet and mashing it together, watermarks and all....

[@mikafizz1022]

@@bunnywar that is how art works you steal and transform it into something new

[@bunnywar]

@@mikafizz1022 no, you do not literally steal the art work of someone else and mash it up (watermarks and all) with other stolen art and call it your own work. There are copyright laws...

[@mikafizz1022]

@@bunnywar I didn't say literally, but yes art is theft. You steal ideas, arrangements, compositions, colors, ect. That is how you grow and improve, you imitate, emulate, mix and match, come up with your own ideas and combine them with other ideas you like that others did. Copyright will never touch the entire creative process. I'm not saying that to justify OUTRIGHT art theft, but creativity at its most basic form is a type of theft. You have to start with something to make something else. Think of it this way artists always have an artist that influenced them, so on the family tree of art we can go back and back and back and back further and further in time to "more original art". Start there and after a really long time of evolution by humans we got to an uncountable amount of art styles now. The algorithm is mimicking the thousands of years that our art evolution has already taken, its just speeding up the process. Nobody is barred from trying out different styles that just doesn't make any sense. Outright copying is literal theft that can be pursued in court, but a parody idea of Barney in a 3d motion graphic of 2d shapes riding a unicycle to the beat of a thousand Mcdonald ads being run down by Wendy's mascot while a panda is squawking as a bird in the background, is very hard to argue that it hurts any of those companies, bird or panda species, ect. If you take a pose from Ross Draws, the style of JC Leyendecker, composition of early Star Wars movie posters, half of Call of Duty's character designs with a mix of Alice In Wonderland inspired aesthetic, it'd be so hard to argue that an illustration like this is an infringement on any of their copyrights. The only way to win a copyright case is if the entirety of the piece is as a majority influenced and copied from one single other piece or multiple pieces very similarly by the same creator. Like here's an obvious example. Ross Draws makes portraits all the time right? So let's say a fan for profit or free puts together fantasy portraits in a lineup. They take Ross's portraits and line them up in a single file, they copy his style in the background so the images will flow together as one landscape piece, but the bust portraits remain unchanged from Ross's original work he has monetized before. Could this be fought for? Yeah absolutely. Changing a background can be argued its transformative, but not straight up pasting in his portraits. You have to go farther for it to count legally as transformative derivative work. Maybe you could do the same poses if it was a different style or rendered completely anew, but the farther you go away from the original piece the better; legally that is. Context is even more important if it's a fan of Ross and Ross doesn't appreciate it? He can ask them to stop and that could be that. A fan that's profiting? Ross could ask them to stop and try to compensate him a bit. There is more at stake because in this scenario they are profiting off of Ross's work and posted a slightly transformed version of his work without his permission. Further context what if it's an entire corporation? Let's go with Disney. Now legally they could very well be held liable, but they are MASSIVE and lawyered up and they could potentially pressure him into signing the rights over to his work. Further further context the original busts Ross made? Are Disney owned IP Disney Princesses technically Ross ILLEGALLY originally used that IP and depicted it with his art skills as a fan, but he never received permission. He owns his work, but he never owned any permissions to do the work regarding the IP. Go back further how did Disney make their IP? They stole from society; fairytales, morals, tall tales, and stories passed down from generation to generation(Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella). They steal from history and culture (Pocahontas and The Little Mermaid). Fads, ideas, genres,concepts, themes, subjects, length ect. So much of what makes art can NEVER be made if some sort of theft were never allowed. Little kids wearing character dresses? They want to be the character, they wanna feel it recreated. In a black and white world where such a thing could be prohibited it would be pretty boring. This isn't a defense of AI art, but I'm just saying art has always been this way and the AI is just doing the same thing us humans do and studying the patterns present that WE humans like. I really hope us as an art community can find a good balance between all of this, but removing entire art styles would be a really hard feat to get them to honor if something like that ever popped into question. But if the algorithm is heavily influenced by certain modern works I do hope the artists find out and get compensation or the entire piece removed; but even THEN if derivative work is transformed enough that could be used as a new template too. Looking forward to hearing from you! Have great day! 👍 ♡♡

[@TWDub]

I have no doubts that AI will never replace artists. AI can only ever get so smart with 1's and 0's programming. But the human mind and creativity knows no limitations.

[@shahier1154]

Neural networks are literally copying the human brain tho. AI's also don't really have a limit and even if, it will be magnitudes higher than any humans creative limit. They might lack a "soul", but they are already capable of learning what humans find appealing or beautiful. That means creating something beautiful is just the next logical step.

[@madshader]

Oh how wrong you are. You'll know the truth one day. I hate to say it, but AI is gonna take over the planet in the coming decade.

[@megumin_6548]

This is exactly my thought when going into this problem

[@alzara3425]

This video makes me feel like there's still worth on improving my artskills tbh which also i need to think about other things as well

[@arc2561]

I think that concept artists could get hurt in the near future as AI gets better. I think that this could help other kinds of artists though. I personally feel that people are taking this as if it was black and white.

[@cathychats]

will

[@lamblyy]

For me personally i feel these AI art pieces can help alot with inspiration and ideas

[@neptuneart551]

I don’t think AI will replace artists but it will eventually make its way into most artists workflows. There will always be a need for a real artists touch. The AI is just here to help cut down some of the time it takes to begin your paintings. I personally started to use it and it’s helped me tremendously! I see the endless potential in it and it makes me excited to continue drawing.

[@shimonking1986]

Why are you so sure the image will always need refinement? these AI get so much better so fast, it's insane. people already using it for album covers and what not

[@shimonking1986]

I'm an artist myself, and I'm not happy saying that but this is just the sad reality

[@Yepitsdarryl]

I believe Al people can help each other , there are some things us artist are not able to express , but with Ai , it can give us some kind of base to jump start your process

[@neptuneemma0-075]

Ai should never replace artists because even if ai starts producing better art than people it’s not the same because the computer didn’t put the time energy or emotion in the piece as people would

[@peterwurst6753]

what about the energy programmers put into develooping the ai?

[@neptuneemma0-075]

@@peterwurst6753 hmmm true but they only develop it once and when artists make art they do it multiple times and each time takes a lot of time and effort usually

[@williamainsworth2777]

But companies wont care about energy or emotion only productivity; so if they need a quick and cheap way to make art to sell, they will choose the ai over us (the artists). its been happening with other fields of work like engineering and medical. its really sad, but technology seems to be more efficient than us, so they will replace us at some point. :/

[@DONTTOUCHTHEGRASSIMALLERGIC]

You can only say this bc you're already well known. But ai will make it even more difficult for new artists to get attention

[@kylelee5966]

factual/ and demotivate younger artists

[@hainchiaki3282]

If you get problems getting attention there are 2 possible problems: Your quality is not good enough or You don't know how to advertise your services nor approach to new people and more followers. Basically, get good.

[@flomakesstuff]

thank you for this!

[@zoeyoong974]

Art is an abstract concept in itself, a way of people putting their feelings and beliefs out for people to see, without technology being able to create what our minds make up we are left with having to do it ourselves to help others understand what we are trying to represent, the computer generated images remind me of a visual representation of an idea, not being fully formed with some gaps in logical things like anatomy or clarity of shapes, a mesh of colours and thoughts just put on there, but when youre an artist you find a way to convey those thoughts and refine them from the image in your mind (the ai image) to what you create, the AI i believe will never be able to the last steps of refining, everything a computer makes will always be slightly off since the difference between a background and the person is a number while to us the difference is one is a background and one is a person, we recognise the difference from experience while a computer tells the difference as it is, not sure if tha makes sense but yeah :D

[@unciervoenciervado]

No. How would you want to be a friend with somebody that openly admits wanting to destroy you? If you are not angry, you're not paying attention

[@vai5760]

Exactly.

[@PerryPictures]

ROSS what are you doing supporting AI art? How bad is it going to look when someone creates creepy fetish art in "ROSS DRAWS STYLE" or worse, lots of it and it floods the internet whenever someone searches your name? Greg Rutkowski has already spoken out about the effects of his name being used in prompts, after just 1 month of the AI launch. The lack of ethics surrounding AI art are not worth turning a blind eye to just so you can enjoy it now.

[@moon5darkness]

You are a talented artist as usual

[@Wonila]

You are so brilliant, Ross!!! I like WOMBO Dream, so I'm glad to see MidJourney!! WOMBO Dream is also free, haha 🙌🏼💓

[@Pakigi716]

the ai is litteraly stealing shit tho and that's a main issue. i feel like corporation will love those technology (they'll do anything to replace those pesky artists), but i still think that a good portion of people would be more interested to see the skill of an artist come to fruition, even if an ai make a perfect product on a side its a "mcdonalds vs restaurant" situation basically big corporation like DC or Marvel will use ai whenever they can, while artists will make their own little company with a small but not niche fanbase like movies or series, if breaking bad was made by an Ai, i wouldn't watch it cause i'd prefer to watch the vision of an artist than a machine making what i want but if i want to watch something stupid to keep me waiting at an airport for exemple i'll gladly use an ai

[@ness3963]

It’s unfortunate but I do think AI will eventually replace artists. Right now it works as a great assistant, but what happens when the assistant surpasses the expert? That point may lie in the next decade or so. When that time comes, companies won’t care if you’re human or not; they’ll only care about your productivity. And in that respect, AI will always win out

[@Shwoble]

If you had dalle access you’d know that that has already come to pass

[@ness3963]

@@Shwoble I do and Its REALLY good but I won't say its there yet. Imo another 5 years and itll start replacing professionals

[@Shwoble]

@@ness3963 you really need to be able to write great prompts but within a few tries you will get a surreal result

[@junjunjamore7735]

@@Shwoble The free dalle? I haven't been satisfied, I've only seen decent results from people who paid premium and post online.

[@Shwoble]

@@junjunjamore7735 people didnt pay to get access to dalle2 they get it for free after waiting in a waitlist you get 50 credits at the start and can either buy 115 for 15 bucks or wait a month for 15 more

[@MiyaMam948]

I think AI can be great to make your own REFERENCE when you can’t quite find something that hits the sweet spot on Google or Pinterest (or you have Aphantasia). Sometimes you want to do something highly specific so you either wind up with a LOT of references (which overwhelm my brain idk about you guys) or you don’t find quite what you’re looking for and can’t find a way to draw what’s in your head

[@jirosx5784]

i don’t think ai can replace artists! Even though the AI art can look fantastic, there’s something impactful and valuable to me knowing that another human created a piece. I think that value is important but AI can be a powerful tool in helping artists reach their vision more quickly! :D