PRO AUDIO RIG EP. 2 | AUDIO CONSOLES AND MONITORS

[@chuckjuice1317]

Been in the music biz for over 40 years, this young guy knows what the heck he’s talking about. I can sense in a second when someone tries to fake pro audio...John is the real deal and I’m going to turn on more of my people to his channel. Class act 👍

[@SoundScientist1]

@Chuck Juice. Mr. Chuck, I started off as a performing musician & gradually got into audio production & engineering. So, my radar is always "tuned" for good learning resources. Over the years, have you discovered any good written (or multi-media) material that explains the fundamentals of running pro sound-reinforcement? (I'm particularly interested in learning more about proper power distribution).

[@StreetMobTruckin]

Once again holly cow man! Could you do a video on power? Meaning like how to power ex. 4 subs 6 tops 8 lights etc. And then how you power your actual setup

[@BrianMDPhD]

It's easy to forget all the behind the scenes equipment that you need. When I started ordering everything for my current project, I spent THOUSANDS on just all kinds of cabling. XLR, DMX, Powercon, power distribution...it feels endless.

[@basdenchris]

This is such a wonderful series! I don't have any aspirations to run a production company, but as an aspiring performer, it's super interesting to see the technical side of production outside of the "speakers-on-sticks" approach I see in bars and other small venues.

[@TheRealCrayfishin]

The Yamaha LS9-16 is my favorite mid size console, the CL5 being my favorite full size. But everyone knows how to use a Behringer which makes them super valuable/flexible... plus who doesn't love rainbow scribble strips!

[@joep6992]

I have used the Presonus Studio Live Series of mixers for the past 10 years. For those who want a great sounding and full feature digital console with a minimal learning curve, I highly recommend this series. They come in 16ch, 24ch and 32ch boards and they are fully linkable as well if you need more channels. I currently use a Studio Live 24 series 3. Its all you need for small to medium size shows and its really compact.

[@oliverguy3121]

Noooooooooooooooo

[@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup]

The new Series III PreSonus ecosystem, has 16 to 64 channels! Plus stage boxes, IEM, and more! All over AVB Network, and they have a separate AVB to Dante conversion hardware to integrate further.

[@BmooreproductionsIN]

My school just upgraded our auditorium to JBL VRX system And a Yamaha TF5 mixer and all Chuvaet LED lights and it sounds amazing and then my church has an X32 and for marching band my schools has a makie DL806 and love it

[@joshuasterling2144]

We installed the 18 and the 32 in a lot of churches, good units and its feature rich and impressive to the people using it.

[@KLRCAT]

X32's are a good bet. Even if it has a fault you can easily get parts for repairs and videos to walk you through it. I have an XR18 as I have a fairly small set up and not a massive budget.

[@12xx12100]

Behringer bought Midas - that‘s Why they got good stuff Edit: ok- they got ok stuff- but the value is realy awsome

[@wbuttry1]

Woo I love these videos you are showing the real deal not what others show you are taking it to the next level. I got about 500 invested in cables so far just for Dj'ing lifetime cables couple 100 footers bunch of 50 30 20 and 10 footers for different size venues all mogami gold . Working on getting more equipment like more subs I got 4 pairs of passive Behringer vs1220 and to inuke 6000 wich is only 1200 watts @2ohm not a lot of power but it does reach out there .

[@tdwr2253]

hey dude! great video. as a live sound guy myself i would reccomend you check out the midas m32 and m32r. they are only around 2000 dollars more than the x32 and it is based on the x32. the workflow and capabilitys are pretty much the same, but you get midas mic pre's and a couple of other things from midas in there. as well as just an overall more premium console that feels a lot better to work with. i feel this would really take your rig to the next level

[@StringerNews1]

Well, the M32 is an X32 in a fancy box. Is that worth paying 2X as much? Well...yes. The control surface is worth $2000 more for sure. Of course both are a bit long in the tooth, and today I'd look at other brands, and stage boxes and mixers that use MADI to connect, so that I'm not locked into one vendor.

[@mrmixalotcreative5847]

I'm not a fan. It's a lot more money for better buttons and maybe a sightly better sound. Still has pretty poor user interface in my opinion.

[@StringerNews1]

@@mrmixalotcreative5847 As I mentioned, both are now dated designs, and you aren't going to get a UI from a $50,000 mixer for that price no matter what brand you buy. Screens on sub-$5000 digital mixers are typically 7". You can always use the Midas M32 stage box to get the Midas preamps (because who would use a digital mixer with an old-fashioned snake), but the _real_ Midas preamps come with the blue faceplate models. You could buy a pair of DL153 stage boxes for an X32, but obviously not for budget reasons. I used a DL153 just for the AES3 ports; we had (still have, in fact) a DL251 that we used with 1 or 2 Pro 2 mixers as needed per the bands' contracts. Since then the house has upgraded to a mixer with more glass real estate. It's nice if you can afford it.

[@harrybent9076]

A video on power distro would be wicked!

[@MichaelPeifer]

Would love to learn more about how monitor desk and FOH desk are physically connected and how they communicate in the analog and digital world.

[@tommycMW3]

Great video. Talk more about the mixing with X32 and show setup. EQ, COMP ?FX

[@djcj95]

I remember my first time on a digital desk, my first impressions were that it didn't have enough physical interaction.. This was a good 10 or so years ago though! I'd gone from a Soundcraft Ghost 32 to a Souncraft VI1 for studio recording and theatre work at school. While I still preferred the sound from the Ghost (I still miss that desk in all honesty) the VI1 was fantastically versatile and the stagebox was an absolute game changer. I would have probably preferred a few more faders than the 16 on the VI1 being able to tab between banks without any delay was very handy, along with EQ curves that were actually editable instead of the different bands on the Ghost. Their newer VI1000 is in the same form factor but heaps more features. Would certainly be my choice if I were to get a new desk since I wouldn't ever be able to afford a DigiCo..

[@theteenageengineer]

we have a Si Expression 3 at my school which was my first digital experience and now the state gave us a 5 million dollar grant to remodel our theater an get all new equipment so now we have a Yammaha QL5 I have not gotten to use it yet with COVID-19 but I have taken the time to teach myself how to use it using KZbin, I don't know what I would do without KZbin

[@TerenceKearns]

with those 100% digital mixers, dont rely on the wifi - even if you use your own router. I did a gig with an x32 at a casino and had some kind of jamming going on. fortunately i had my laptop so i could control it via the network cable.

[@undergroundmafiaterryjames6281]

As a Techno Dj and promoter I lean to Funktion one and Void when renting sound. But you have a very nice rig.

[@du175]

Bro fuckin love u u are a really humble man! Keep it up man

[@Renegadeproject]

I am impressed with this guys videos

[@frog743rhoads9]

I’m huge in sound quality and proforments

[@uniquesoundsdjnick]

very helpful

[@evancef2589]

Just found you.... in the process of watcing everyting you post....Great job! Q: What is your opinon on Meyer Sound Lab products?

[@djlalokc7698]

All the way around good info bro thank you

[@tommymyersentertainment5594]

Absolutely a ton of knowledge. Good job.

[@BOTTLEDCHEESE]

Love your work!!

[@SoundScientist1]

I started off as a performing musician & gradually got into audio production & engineering. So, my radar is always "tuned" for good learning resources. Have any of you guys discovered good written (or multi-media) material that explains the fundamentals of running pro sound-reinforcement? (I'm particularly interested in learning more about proper power distribution).

[@anthonyanzalone]

Awesome info man, but what about the cost to transport all this gear. Can you talk about the vehicle investments that you've made? =)

[@DjWooPig]

Good idea!

[@tinuisac9047]

Do you know where I can get that case that you use for Behringer X Air XR18?

[@markarca6360]

Midas and Behringer are related companies (They are both under MUSIC Group).

[@thenightlifenj1]

They are. But the midas board and x32 arent as similar as you think. The midas is a much better board in almost every aspect. Not to mention they do no share alot of the same parts. Faders, pre amps etc are different and much better on the midas.

[@jilsav]

Great video man!!! Question, which truss system are you using to fly your speakers?

[@officialflagoffreedom5174]

Thanks for sharing

[@soundfreak8892]

Time to upgrade to a soundcraft expression 3?

[@DjWooPig]

those are great desks!

[@matthewmason9574]

Just curious but have you looked into dante and if so what are your thoughts. Me and my buisness partner are trying to look into a auido over IP solution for events that require us to be setup in multiple rooms across a long distance. If not dante what would you possibly recommend for something like that.

[@bigjentertainment876]

😎👍👍

[@BestDaddy82]

Second

[@robertrickman3531]

Diggin' this... Keep it coming. My friends have NO IDEA if how much $$ goes into this Biz...They gripe about a $50 ticket, I see $500k in gear......'high five'

[@REMI-kun]

John, you need to look into the Allen and Heath SQ or dLive series. You get a LOT for what you pay for

[@TuDoorCinema]

Freakyfyed we have the dLive s5000 at my church. I love it! It’s crazy the amount of control you get. I can’t really compare it to anything else though cause that’s what I learned on and the only thing I’ve ever mixed on.

[@DJJoshErieOfficial]

Heres a good question John. We talk A LOT of big numbers last video and this one. Expensive stuff. What's going rates for people doing shows? Are tours getting 5 or 6 figures? Are we talking hundreds per show? Thousands? High and low numbers and examples for other companies are fine, I know the world is weird about posting our prices as audio guys. I'm asking as I'm pretty curious about your market.

[@giovannimercuri5168]

These videos are AWESOME...thanks so much for putting this out there.

[@NaidelPro]

Good quality audio and video straight to the point!! Much respect! Keep it up🙌

[@adrianguerrero100]

What's up boss shout out from the tip of Texas PURO QSC KW Series

[@RealDJElfTV]

im loveing the QSC Touchmix conmsoles i have the 16 and 30

[@asilva_media]

awesome video! helped me out a lot considering what mixer to get next. I'm just barely starting out in live pa lol, I've got a zed24 from Allen and heath and some alto tx310s. done some nice jobs for little wineries and weddings

[@Newschoolcovers]

Can you do a little test for me? Put a sine wave on the tuning frequency of the subs and check out the port noise. I like the sound of those subs, but at the limit i think that the small port will compress a lot. Great channel, keep going, you've got my sub! :)

[@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup]

I have that exact same Yamaha mini mixer! My main setup is a PreSonus 32SC with 32R rack mixer/stage box, and NSB32.16 stagebox. For small gigs, I use my EAE Stompmix6 though, way more flexible than the small analog Yamaha mini mixer!

[@adamwojciechowski9287]

Pro tip from me (16 y exp as a sound eng) If shit in, then shit out. No matters how equipment you have. Good or decent signal is "must to have" from stage, so good band with good instruments and mics (original not fake copy of shure) are much preffered than the best PA

[@jefersonalcantara958]

Hello John Simmons.. Please make a video sound check to your sound system 😁😊

[@centerstageentertainment6792]

thats something id like too see.

[@DjWooPig]

can do!

[@iuristasiv9360]

@@DjWooPig bless you!

[@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup]

I never intend to get into the League you're in! The rig I'm building, is the stopgap between your setup, and a setup that a band can provide on their own.

[@bkproductions1106]

Great video series. Can you make a video on how you do your X32 FOH/ Mon split?

[@DjWooPig]

can do!

[@Strfanopita]

Great videos bro, thanks for sharing. Question please, could you use that same little Yamaha analog mixer with your pro setup? And how would the audio quality be? If say you are only using the 2 x in + 2 x out channels going into a Pioneer RX2 + 2 x Technics SL 1200 MK2. Also, in terms of power and power source, what kind of power distribution do you use for the amps and DBX!? Thanks 🙏

[@Djcrossfaded-c7w]

Hey man I have a couple gigs in the near future all I have is 2 15 inch speakers and a 18 inch subwoofer what else would I need

[@imaniinternational7853]

Great content. Any comparison of GTD wireless vs. Pheonyx

[@lukesmith-rv7jt]

i am a dj and just starting a production firm your film have helped me loads would like to no what price you charge in us for your large rig

[@gilbertojode5073]

Do they still make the jbl stx800 subs... How do they perform?

[@mikebottiaux5850]

Great video! I’m still basically an analog man, haven’t made the upgrades yet.

[@peterndwiga4694]

Hey I need a mobile set up to use in weddings and functions. What should I buy ?

[@honpaulogbeokechukwu9404]

How do I get your sound system to Nigeria I need your samples and the cost

[@lunasentertainment3284]

nice video a have 3 of those console and work great ✌🏼

[@frog743rhoads9]

I can tell If the system sounds great I do not lie 99.9%

[@jackmocker3043]

Hey, I was wondering how you were able to rack mount your Behringer XR18? I would love to do it to my own personal setup too. Great vid tho, keep up the good work!

[@DjWooPig]

They come with rack ears in the box.

[@michaelwilliams9508]

Hi....what do you think of the midas m32

[@hlokomani]

When I grow up I wanna be like you

[@edgararanda8722]

What’s with the EV speakers?

[@harrysearia1784]

Solid info bruh

[@tapgatewayltduk]

We use the Mackie DL32

[@cutittaierau3128]

This is a good Chanel 🤟

[@theteenageengineer]

Learning on an analog first is definitely the way to go, digital consoles are very expensive so not everyone has one. Once you’ve mastered an analog console then you can look into a digital console, there’s many different options, the X32 is one of the most affordable digital consoles on the market. Some of the ones that I definitely recommend are the Yamaha QL5, if you have the money it’s definitely worth it, it has so many useful features, and it will definitely make your job easier, that’s the cheaper model in the QL/CL series, it’s made for theatrical and general purposes, however the CL5 is a more expensive model, but it is specifically designed for running concerts.

[@mfl8276]

Just subbed

[@soentertainmentdjs2316]

Hey John! I’m doing a big middle school dance this Friday. I have three subs that I could bring. How would you set up the subwoofers? Where would you place them? Or should I only just bring to you?

[@theteenageengineer]

did you know that the midas firmware is exactly the same as the X32 so you can program a show on a midas console put it on a usb stick and load it onto an X32

[@djflexproductions5359]

Great video brotha! I actually have the Yamaha tf3 digital mixer for live sound and a Yamaha analog for when I Dj

[@seanflynn6577]

14:13

[@47695825]

Content ain't stopping I see xDD

[@bwiles12]

Your one sharp dude! Great video and thanks for sharing.

[@jonathonwardlow2340]

Hey man! Glad to see your company is growing. I myself have a small little PA I use for whatever its needed ( 2 SRX835P and 2 PRX518S but upgrading subs soon) but work for a decently sized production company in my area. Its always great to work with Venue 48s and bringing in some RCF TTL or VerTec systems to fly. I must say why not A Midias M32 instead ?

[@k7jbl157]

John...I use the little Behringer X18 (desktop version as you know) as a controller for my computer audio (8 channels counting the sub) and 2 ham radios. I use two different mics with the radios, a Beta 58 and an MXL 990 condenser. I did FOH mixing for about 20 years. These little Behringer boxes are amazing. To think it cost less than half of my first digital delay (a Lexicon PCM-41) blows my mind. If you get bored and want a laugh you can see more of what I use the x18 for on my youtube channel under my callsign, K7JBL. Yes...That is an FCC approved vanity callsign. I am a hardcore JBL fan. The stream allows other hams to listen (via KZbin) to what their signal sounds like. Some are really good, others pretty bad. It's crude, but we have fun. We're all old. It doesn't take much to amuse us. :-) Anyhow...You have me hooked. Great info and I wish you the best going forward with your business.

[@oldskoolhead0]

how much would you have spent on funktion one? lol

[@TempoDrift1480]

Shit, I can't imagine someone actually paying for someone to do sound, they just figure, well? You're already here...

[@halidharis]

Have you try 100m cat5 cable for x18? Is it still working with cable that long?? Say i want control xr18 from FOH possition with only my laptop..thx

[@stewardsproductions]

Very nice!

[@joshuasterling2144]

I cant remember if this is correct, but I believe Presonus has a model that is expandable, so you can buy one 32 channel unit and them slave another later on with a cat cable. Make sure they are on the some updated software and you are good to go.

[@DroneLife]

Dude, great info. I’ve been a DJ for several years and always wanted to grow my business. Your video was very informational and a reality check. Thank you sir for the information.

[@alamakluke]

Another option for a digital console is the Presonus StudioLive Series 3 mixers... they are great and user friendly

[@shawnbossinger6501]

Shawn Bossinger... Boss Sights and Sounds Excellent Videos Always great to see how a regular guy puts together a great pa.

[@user-lx8ky9yf3b]

I start with splitsville. Always have on hand a 54 input 3 way Whirlwind analogue splitter .

[@wbuttry1]

I still love my analog console I got a small Behringer 2222 usb fx use it for outdoor venues bands and other

[@frog743rhoads9]

I’m in to your KZbin channel and ready for new videos and have a nice day!

[@LioHmusic]

Hey man great content!! Could you do a video on getting gigs? Thanks

[@SimillionMedia]

Have you ROI'd yet?

[@Alex-rn1mn]

How much money would you expect from hiring them out?

[@shaun9107]

Analog centrals all the way with me , love a real set up . coming from the UK , just subbed in

[@peterlagroove6555]

Digital console mixer is't a shame for the real music

[@timthepoolman3313]

need a shirt with you saying "super duper"

[@TheDJjems]

Subbed. Thanks for sharing.

[@fernieboy6195]

I’m addictive to this channel , just can’t help it

[@chromemusic4401]

You need more equipment lol

[@shaynemurray6351]

Thanks John great info as always!

[@safetyofficer7759]

Yes sir, mic cable pls.

[@g3o5d]

I've been looking at that X32 for a few months, haven't pulled the trigger. I'm still using the SX2442FX. Another great video John. Moving onto the EP.3

[@juancolindres4988]

I have an x32 for live band... the best for live setup