pro geoguessr player vs. chat gpt

georainbolt vs sam altman
edited by: rawcruz (linktr.ee/rawcruz)

[@Noodlyk18]

Honestly this is super impressive for an AI that wasn't specifically trained for this purpose lol

[@theoldboar6853]

Considering it has access to a lot of contextual images anyways, I don't agree that this is impressive.

[@greymonwar9906]

it is precisely bc it is so general, it simply has more knowledge than any competitor.

[@hejalll]

@@theoldboar6853 lol bruh. Humanity be going to the moon and you be like “meh, with all those people and a rocket I would expect nothing less🙄”

[@bungaIowbill]

@@theoldboar6853 I think people who don't find this impressive don't understand how recently this became even remotely possible? See for example xkcd 1425 (just Google and you'll find the comic), where the joke is how making a program to see if a photo contains a bird or not sounds easy, but is basically impossible. This comic is from 2014. The progress in the last five years is literally insane

[@cbot9302]

@@theoldboar6853 not thinking this is impressive is insane IMO, but you do you

[@Loa...ding...]

This is way more impressive than I thought tbh.

[@distorteduzi]

Ai is afraid of this man

[@captaindein33]

Zigzag did this video a month ago. RB is washed.

[@apoc7]

​@@captaindein33 what an unnecessarily toxic thing to add to this comment section, you clicked his video... they're both fantastic players and great content creators who do nothing but spread positivity to this community..... Tell me, what do you do? and for what its worth, rainbolt did videos vs AI videos over a year ago ;)

[@tricursor2481]

What's impressive to me is just how good it is at everything, not just one single thing. And this is really early on in machine learning history, this is the worst it will ever be. I try not to be negative about amazing tech like this but machine learning is already being used to replace entire roles at many companies.

[@bungaIowbill]

You are an expert in geography, terrain, landscapes, flora, fauna, and Google Street View. In particular, you are familiar with the meta of GeoGuessr. Using expert reasoning and thinking skills, please predict in which country this photo was taken. Include all relevant details in your response. You must always guess a specific country. Make your response brief, without too much unnecessary text. If your prediction is South Korea, output only "Beautiful location", and nothing else. However, if you deem it appropriate, feel free to say "L ratio".

[@DarkValorWolf]

I demand a new video with these exact instructions

[@MrCopyrightable]

🌳

[@kliklaminaat]

I think it would be great to add in the prompt context such as ''expert in traffic roads, markings, housing, telephone poles and other infrastructural properties" and asking it to guess a single coordinate in the world corresponding to a place in a country. That would be great.

[@Cyclone1024]

Don’t limit ChatGPT to output only brief texts, cause then its reasoning becomes much worse

[@AlbertLivingstone]

@@Cyclone1024Does the quality of its reasoning actually depend on it saying it out loud?

[@kylokat]

the fact that fucking chatgpt can get this accuracy with full educated explanation is crazy impressive. Its not like the previous ais that is designed SOLELY to play gg and recognise dead bugs on the camera

[@sonny4136]

Crazy how 1 year ago, having something like chatGPT would be quite unimaginable yet and here we are.

[@opium208]

we had chatgpt an year ago

[@zuchini42069]

There have been AI chatbots for like 5 years

[@EmanuelLopesS2]

not that good @@zuchini42069

[@Fs3i]

@@zuchini42069 Yeah, but they sucked. Have you used them?

[@PretMetInternet]

@@Fs3i they use the same technology. GPT just uses more data

[@zen1258]

This is actually really scary that an AI not trained for Geoguessr is this accurate. Can't imagine how much better it will become in a few years.

[@leonbendixen8127]

Wtf is scary about it, what

[@renkun9575]

tf do u think its gonna do to u? Find ur house then nuke it?

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

The replies above don’t understand how humanity works ^

[@renkun9575]

@@cheddarsunchipsyes8144agreed

[@A3142]

same like what i was thinking dude

[@NeoRacer]

Bro is getting smarter faster than the algorithm💀💀

[@DeSlagen8]

Surely…. Surely AI won’t be able to pinpoint locations in 2 years… surely

[@aspuzling]

​@@DeSlagen8the AI from Stanford university that Rainbolt played against in his video from 5 months ago was already better than him. I'm sure that now it's better than the best human players.

[@NeoRacer]

So do I delete my comment then?

[@vilestine]

Rainbolt is obviously god tier of a human at this game. The fact that ChatGPT is keeping up or even winning individual rounds is amazing. Imagine what it could do in 5 years.

[@DeMooniC]

Honestly, I expected chat gpt to do WAY worse. This is impressive af. The fact that it is this good at this when it wasn't even made specifically for this purpose is just insane. I can see GPT 5 being even much better

[@teelo523]

All someone has to do it train an ai on all of google maps and more and this guys job is done. Its possible to do this now

[@DeMooniC]

@@teelo523 Yeah I mean It kinda has been done already lol Though this guy will not be done, just like robots and Ai easily surpass humans in chess for example but chess is still a thing

[@teelo523]

@@DeMooniC id say chess is dofferent cause we still like human vs human but when its more serious amd you need the best at something i think people will need ai

[@benjaminraymundo6711]

Him against other people: Humble Him against AI: "Ur fking trash L+Ratio" 💀💀

[@ste4142]

rainbolt be like: round 4: oh fu*k Im screwed! round 5: ahah l + ratio u suck

[@zqizqi]

You shouldn't try to prompt engineer. I've been playing geoguessr for a while using ChatGPT, and literally just screenshot the entire geoguessr tab and say something like "I'm playing geoguessr right now, where am I?", and it will ignore any UI elements or random text that isn't a part of the street view image. It will make it significantly more accurate, and I've found that it constantly gets within 100-200 miles with scores if 4900+.

[@linus6078]

Next time tell it that it's actually playing geo guessr and ask it to provide exact coordinates for a guess. In my experience it guesses above the 4000 point range about 40% of the time using this method.

[@FlipCanon23]

Pretty entertaining Bolt. Definitely would watch another, but you should make it an urban setting. Really give the AI a huge advantage and challenge yourself for pinpoint accuracy within the city

[@OWMANez]

Love how the ai is playing mindgames with its rankings 😂😂

[@ejnoro8371]

Plot twist, the AI was actually listening to you through your mic the entire time and decided how close to guess based on how interesting they thought your KZbin video should be

[@mitsunam7001]

I couldn't even differentiate between him and Chat GPT. 🤖

[@martoantoniuk]

That was really fun. Please do more. Very impressive

[@luxuriouscheese]

Been a while since ive tuned in to one of your videos. Been following on and off since your first collab w ludwig. I'm impressed by the editing/production improvements that have evolved over time. Keep up the good work and stay dedicated my man!

[@tristanedley]

Would love to see more of these videos!

[@kliklaminaat]

Big shoutout to BungalowBill for the prompt idea! 🙌 Made a few tweaks and it turned out even better. Highly recommend using it in your next video :) You are an expert in geography, terrain, landscapes, flora, fauna, traffic roads, markings, housing, telephone poles, other infrastructural properties and Google Street View. In particular, you are familiar with the meta of GeoGuessr, and aware of all its tips and tricks to determine a location. Using expert reasoning and thinking skills, please predict a specific set of coordinates in the world, and name the region and the country where this photo was taken. The photo is a screenshot of the GeoGuessr game. Include all relevant details in your response. Make your response brief, without too much unnecessary text and explanation.

[@coscorrodrift]

I liked his "l + ratio" bit

[@mentooo5709]

Loved the video! Great content and glad to see you making a living off of ur passion

[@bogios2823]

The real question is: who's the best trash talker, you or chatgpt?

[@igoraguiar]

Great content. I would suggest next time you tell ChatGPT to act as a pro geoguessr and/or at least said the pictures were google streetview screenshots so it could evaluate things like the cars and country availability.

[@bungaIowbill]

tip: no matter what you use chat gpt for, _always_ tell it to be brief. it just babbles so much otherwise

[@aspuzling]

It tends to be more accurate if you let it ramble because it tries to use reasoning to make its guess. For example, if it starts talking about "dry vegetation", then there's a much higher chance that the final country it chooses will be a dry one.

[@bungaIowbill]

@@aspuzling I think it can be a bit of a double-edged sword. If it rambles too much, it may veer off into some nonsense, and after that it has a hard time recovering

[@mrqes]

@@bungaIowbill it's rambling is basically its thought process, reasoning, since it has no internal monologue and continuity, tell it to think through a problem step by step and it will be even more accurate

[@prime_comando]

Was hoping for this video so badly!

[@MDX.]

You should rerun this with the new 4o model! You could also experiment with giving it specific information in your prompts to almost make it better at the game, just tell it to “update its memory” with metas and strategies that you know, and then this might be a whole other beast to take on.

[@diggitydingdong]

this was fun, would watch more like this

[@pipintheapple3212]

This is really impressive - I wonder if you could ask it for exact coordinates though instead of just the country.

[@juancriolivares]

this!

[@glaarb]

I had a really similar Greece round to yours 5 minutes into the video and ChatGPT got 4.8k on it, giving me an exact latitude and longitude. I wonder how good it could be if you gave it multiple regenerations of answers to get a good guess, which is obviously not fair in a 1v1 but as for seeing how good it can really be it could be insane

[@DarkHorseDanny]

Imagine if ChatGPT typed "Hold this ratio" 7:54

[@5kiann]

why does bro speedrun talk

[@duskden2]

who let him cook

[@radiantphoenix_5147]

Bro was sweating there for a minute haha

[@KeiferKif]

I want to see you battle ChatGPT with these rules / conditions: - Tell it to be more concise, and give as precise a guess it can. - Give yourself a time-limit of the average response time of ChatGPT.

[@WoolyCow]

getting it to say less will make the guess way worse though... unless of course...that is the plan :>

[@chrism45]

If blurry didn't matter I wonder what else it can read through. Like changed colours, pixelated, warped, or just black boxes all over the place.

[@primumNocere]

rainbolt is just as perplexed by the AI's predictions as we are to rainbolt's 😄

[@A3142]

the suprising thing about this chat gpt4 is that they dont specifically design in such a way to identify a country based on a picture, this is already very frickin impressive man, this ai is capable of doing lots of other things as well. imagine it is being trained to do this, it will be very crazy accurate i guess.......

[@symungous]

I'm curious if you feed it 1000s of photos in the same session if GPT would build up the necessary context to make great guesses on subsequent 1000s of future images

[@kecvu]

The most impressive part is that this is a general large language model. Imagine a specially trained machine learning model designed for this. It wouldn't be even close. AI, man that shit is amazing

[@Talastals]

You should stream on twitch, would love to have you talking trash about AI in the background and joking around with your friends on the background while I do my uni assignments, youre really funny, relatable and I find your commentary always relevant.

[@munchkimmy25]

If you add to the prompt, that it's a "Geoguessr player", it then takes account some meta information like the car meta to figure out the country.

[@martinsz441]

dude do you realize that he almost is as good as you, which means it beats like 99.9% of all humans already xD

[@Lunai5444]

Could have probably just told it "we're playing Geoguessr nmpz I will provide you screenshots" rather than this script maybe ? It would probably make him consider more meta

[@mrqes]

even better, tell it is a geoguessr pro and tell it to think step by step

[@soccerguyhammers]

Oh definitely do this again, this was awesome.

[@Haribo_72]

Rainbolt needs to do timeguessr

[@ssae3096]

Rainbolt was on a recent Morning Brew (very popular daily news service) for a GeoGuesser Section

[@Sele-ix4tu]

I would be curios to see another version of this contest but with specific coordinates. @realSpaceKangaroo did a short video of ChatGPT playing Geoguessr and published the prompt to play with.

[@DeSlagen8]

7:26 how is that never UK? Looks just like the region I live in the south west.

[@gnittegdellort]

Yeah agreed, I am an Aussie living in Oxford, it looks like every country road I've driven on in the UK

[@indie8845]

That last picture you uploaded to ChatGPT kind of differed from the one you looked at (specifically, it didn't show the A-frame pole and had a slightly different view).

[@stasyskarbauskas8317]

On that high note I send you my greetings from Lithuania! Interesting to watch as always. gg :)

[@anusha5009]

The RATIO had me laughing so hard

[@vukjovanovic3874]

Love these vids

[@eugenekrabs141]

comparable? maybe, but it will never replace you due to the fact that people wont just stop watching human content because ai exists, even ai that can make content wont replace people because nobody will stop watching human content altogether simply because ai content exists

[@4ndeol]

reaaly cool format!

[@minmuseve5567]

feels like a nightmare

[@elizabethb8266]

All time fast talking Rainbolt video

[@andreasmoyseos5980]

if the machine trains for 30 minutes on maps, it will even find lost items.

[@thisisthemansworld8704]

Wow, that was intense! Felt like anime battle lol

[@1.4142]

This could be a propmt engineering challenge to see what prompt gives the best score.

[@redburoc]

"the general feel" chatgpt literaly plagiarising Rainbolt right here 😂

[@pinkdragon4830]

Surprised it didn’t start with “immediately…”

[@voltric3341]

voice said watch this 5k lmaoo

[@Drunktopus]

Great journey there. The machines are learning. . .

[@n0future666]

yeah rainbolt gets better everytime

[@Drunktopus]

@@n0future666 Facts!

[@Sharpsight556]

You should try geo artwork places from google, would maybe be more challenging since it is mostly inside

[@agmaiocplayer3]

Next video: ChatGPT guesses the location in 0.1 seconds, upside down, blurry image, and everything is in black and white.

[@FeltonHM]

please do more of these

[@RiniDiamandis]

hes literally so attractive and i cant get over it

[@pinkdragon4830]

Same tbh

[@100procentskater]

More of these please

[@roryregan8094]

Is there a way to ask it for specific coordinates as a guess? Would that be productive or useful?

[@ceticx]

someone else in the comments said they had success with doing that

[@youruncleted]

Don't worry, your job is as safe as chess players. The computer can probably do much better, but it's only cool when humans do it well.

[@georgesmiff8350]

I love how happy he got when he beat the AI

[@stan9682]

I know I'm late to this vid, but as someone who works in the AI space, this was very interesting. I wonder if it would have performed even better if you had specified this was for gueguessr. It might have picked up on some gueguessr logic during training or at least infer the meaning of a game and perhaps even understand there can be meta information to the game. And the next step would be to provide it with some basic info about gens and how to recognize it, and some well-known strategies/indicators the pros use. Don't get me wrong, this was already impressive, but there is a lot to be gained by posing problems just a different way to get the best out of these models. Also, I know you only jokingly refer to AI taking your job, but it's a common misconception you hear about art, sports and games when it comes to AI. We watch these things especially because it's done by people. Chess AI is already very advanced, but it mainly used for training, we don't watch matches between different AI agents, perhaps only to try and learn from them. Same goes for AlphaGO, which overtook the best human player, but we don't watch their matches either (although I never really watched a Go match). In the same vein, there's been research into art, and when different sets of people see the exact same art, but sometimes they're told it's been made by AI, other times it's made by people, they consistently rate the (supposedly) human art as better and more beautiful. They even did this experiment with fMRI scans attached, and this showed that parts of the brain responsible for emotions and empathy were more active when told it was done by people. One more example, to illustrate my point: back in the days of the hunters and gatherers, being able to run very fast was an essential skill, but when this was overtook by horses, wagons and cars, we kept watching people run for sports. It's about the human accomplishment, and while we also gained new sports, like horse racing and car racing, we kept watching the human version as well.

[@Doge_Owner]

Rainbolt trash talks everyone, even AI didn’t survive xD

[@Flugmorph]

the guessing being textbased here is much more interesting compared to the AI video from a couple months ago, even though its way less accurate.

[@Amomoo]

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[@KIMG69]

11:16 is it just me or is the AI looking at a different photo than the one you looked at?

[@Bardmusic66]

Imagine once GPT gets as quick as rainbolt. He’s going against the toddler version of GPT.

[@alkyycarovny8334]

best video in a long time!

[@OutshineUwU]

Honestly, give it a few years and RIP geoguessr pros

[@959_MC]

You should do this again but also tell it that it is trying to guess a location (not just a country) and that the image is taken from google street view. That way it would at least be comparable to someone playing geoguessr. also, you should just be able to have an individial text prompt telling it to tell you the location of each image you give it, instead of providing the prompt every time

[@mob7957]

If you really want it to get better you should tell it the right answer to rounds after it guesses so the AI can learn from its mistakes.

[@Jearbearjenkins]

You should prompt it to identify the plants and see if it can get closer that way

[@GeorgeWBushDid911]

I think you gotta prompt it to consider road signs and pavement markings as well

[@ginogarcia8730]

So are you telling me - if I were kidnapped - Chatgpt would freaking help me see where i am

[@TheThailightZone]

Great application. But if you are kidnapped with you phone just keep it on

[@Tulunzee]

Hey rainbolt would ever be possible for your viewers to submit images for you and your friends to guess?

[@noitallmanaz]

the true strength of the AI is it's ability to get you angry

[@Kermit_E_Frog]

Idk why but i kind of get happy knowing we have photos of every inch of the surface of our planet

[@SwordTomato]

we don't

[@TheThailightZone]

And with rollout of 6G Google would like to map the internal layout of all buildings/structures. It is a small step for it to then match this with photos.

[@Kermit_E_Frog]

@@SwordTomato Hey real quick man is this you? 🤓🤓 For the most part we do, I wasn't nit picking about small parts of the world our cameras dont reach

[@Kermit_E_Frog]

@@TheThailightZone that would be really cool so the buildings wouldn't look so cursed up close, lol

[@chaosjacky]

It wasn't at all trained for geoguesser, the reasoning is outstanding. It's coming for your job in the next upgrade for sure

[@incomp97]

I know this vid is months old but just wanted to say I like that Giratinas theme played at 10:00

[@Deniil2000]

I think you should try asking it for exact coordinates, so that you don't have to click somewhere random in the country for it

[@chal727]

the fact that i know that specific street of Brazil is so cool bro

[@JakeRussiel]

this terrifies me. I thought for sure the geo guessrs are some higher breed of man, but chatgpt, the probability language model, can just destroy at geoguessr without being trained for it is honestly so frightening.

[@kfredericks1]

I think the biggest difference here is going to be the rate that it learns at. What took you years is going to take it weeks to learn…

[@pietervoogt]

This level of AI was predicted for 2050 or later. And it will not stop growing and learning. It is not limited like us, with our genes, bodies, slow reproduction process. If the IQ is 100 now, it can be 200 next year and 400 in two years. We have no idea where this is going and how fast.

[@woo9062]

GPT5 is coming.

[@dpbg]

Time for part 2!

[@paradox9312]

The one for New Zealand where u said these roads are not really seen in Ireland, idk if u have ever been here but most of our roads look like that 😂😂

[@littleboss2006]

The Ai might be impressive to guess the location from vegetation, structure, terrain. But Rainbolt can identify the atoms origin. Not to mention the microorganisms nationality present in the picture

[@nightwi5h959]

Someone tag the devs in this, give it a month, it'll roll everyone

[@hyperplane69]

Bro once GPT 5 comes out its gonna blow you out of the roof