Pro race, very street drivable, 500 hp OE 289 SBF iron head mods.

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David Vizard

David Vizard

Күн бұрын

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@ob1n
@ob1n Жыл бұрын
David Vizard says, "Hearse-Perrrrr!" I love it! Legit legendary!
@mattyduncan4679
@mattyduncan4679 Жыл бұрын
I do too hahaha. He should sell t shirts with that on it. I'd buy one.
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
This information is worth it's weight in GOLD! Thank you for sharing your cylinder head knowledge with us.
@missionhills800
@missionhills800 2 ай бұрын
My first car was a 1967 Mustang, with a 289 2bbl, I bought David's book back then (1988) Performance With Economy and later How to Tune Holley, cool to see him now so many years later
@davidd.barton2488
@davidd.barton2488 Жыл бұрын
I can't thank u enough for passing on this knowledge and for free.I'm in debt to u DV. I'm a mustang man but I love American muscle and just going fast lol on 4 ,2 ,18 or 0 wheels.
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
I was getting 350-400 HP out of my old 289 heads in 1980 at 7,000 RPM. Was running 11.80’s @ 3,700’ altitude in a ‘62 Ranchero. I now realize there was more HP to be had by spinning 8,000 RPM and would have probably put me in the 10 second range. I was out of steam at the finish line at 7,200 RPM with 5.43 gears.....
@camachinist
@camachinist Жыл бұрын
Just ran across this. Yeah, very similar in the 70's. Iron block, cast crank, stock rods with Chevy bolts, domed pistons, OEM heads, Chevy valves in the heads, porting. Made enough power to later run Super Street on good days, solid 11.20's at west coast tracks in a 2500lb fastback. The 4-speed cars in the group were quicker. I ran a C4 and 5.43 with 13x31W's. Shift at 7 and go through the lights at 7800 or so. My first process was cutting a stock head apart to learn the casting specs. KZbin sure makes things easy nowadays. It was all trial and error back in the day; lotta work.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
So great to get so much out of a small motor. 🤠
@gamwsas
@gamwsas 8 ай бұрын
what upgrades did you do?
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 4 ай бұрын
@@gamwsas. Mild work on the intake ports with Chevy valves and a very crappy 1 angle valve job with the big sharp lip at the seat/head interface. A lot of work on the exhaust port and totally removed the guide boss. No chamber work at all. After watching this video I see where a whole lot more work needs to be done. I built this 289 engine in 1980 when I was 16 and now I’m 60 and still have the engine. I have used these principles and done one complete cylinder and I think it looks good, but it hasn’t been flowed. I will finish the heads and have larger valves installed with a 3-4 angle valve job when the Texas heat ends in September. In 1980 there was no aftermarket for SBF parts except for pistons/cams because the 5.0 HO didn’t exist yet....had to make do with factory parts, but 11 second quarter miles were very respectable in 1980 as the fastest BBC’s only ran 10’s and only a couple ran 9’s.
@gamwsas
@gamwsas 4 ай бұрын
@@trailerparkcryptoking5213 how did you know how to build it back in your 16's?:)
@lesgaal4017
@lesgaal4017 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see the end results for these 289 Heads cheers David.
@MrKentaroMotoPI
@MrKentaroMotoPI Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, the shrouding! Many people think that the motivation for using 351W heads on 289 and 302 blocks is the bigger ports. Not so - the stock ports are about the same. The 351W chambers are unshrouded, and the valves and bowls are bigger. They still need port work, but that's easy compared to what the pros here are doing.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
289 ports are @ 127 CC ports and 54 CC chambers with 1.72 valves. Early big spark plug 351w heads (and todays GT40s) are @144 CC ports and 62 CC chambers with 1.84 valves. On a 289 they kill one full point of compression.
@carlslagle8399
@carlslagle8399 Жыл бұрын
Any news on part2? Can't wait for the next installment!
@rustywater3219
@rustywater3219 Жыл бұрын
Watched a video of PRI this year. Ford racing is coming out with vintage crate engines starting with 289 and one other.
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
Where’s part 2 of this video? I want to see the rest of the work and supporting dyno numbers! DV implies right here that he already has them. I dug through the videos but didn’t see it....
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I revisit these videos. Every time I watch it I pick up on something that I missed the other times.
@glennbellman1100
@glennbellman1100 3 ай бұрын
I built my 302 with 351w heads. 1970 casting #. Mild port work and they work very well.
@brianhdueck3372
@brianhdueck3372 Жыл бұрын
I played with these heads since my teens as well. Never had the flow bench so no bench marks other than who won the race. Looking back I wish I had had some science to my madness but we did have good times. Those 289’s were such quick reving engines you had to be careful with your shift points. Thank you David for your generous sharing from your lifetime achievements.
@Baard2000
@Baard2000 Жыл бұрын
I have done dozens of heads of FIA approved and time period road racing engines. I always wondered why the 2 engine builders I supply them to let the engines rev max 7200 rpm and prefer the customer shift at 6800. They told me , even with a girdle , using the higher revs didnt make them go faster BUT ALSO had blocks crack within hours. As some engines have to withstand the 6hours of Spa or the super long straights ( 3 times 1 mile on 1 straight ) of Le Mans ......longevity is the way to win races with these engines. Keep revs down!!!
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
What are the cam specs for 500 HP in the 7000 RPM range?
@weaverdennisl
@weaverdennisl 7 ай бұрын
Okay, you have me on the edge of my seat... waiting for part 2.
@Lecherous_Rex
@Lecherous_Rex Жыл бұрын
This is great info my father can apply to his 66 fastback, I was curious though why I never see any miata motors on here? They are after all the most tracked car in the country. You would certainly gain huge viewership, I love my miata so much I bought a second one. Fuel economy and fun factor all in one, perfect for back yard mechanics. Don't get me wrong, I can apply what I've learned and get gains but having a true guru such as yourself take the time to show the world how to do it to the fullest would bring viewers from all over the globe.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
All his porting basics apply.
@stuartwall8212
@stuartwall8212 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for part 2 of this for.....a long time. Patiently waiting, btw. Am Sooo glad it is in the pipeline!!!
@deanbarnett1095
@deanbarnett1095 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for part two for a year and a half
@tonyshoemaker7483
@tonyshoemaker7483 9 ай бұрын
Your not the only one that's been waiting. Is this guy ful of shit? I want to see the results
@CS_247
@CS_247 Жыл бұрын
Problem is, for road-racing we are limited to 6800 rpm. We are getting 480hp though, not bad.
@theperceptionengine
@theperceptionengine Жыл бұрын
Thank you, looking forward to the next episode.
@rondye9398
@rondye9398 Жыл бұрын
Ported a set of 1970 2V heads using your guidelines with slightly cut down to 2" intakes. Later switched to 77 GT 40's with a bit less work and was disappointed. Went back to earlier head.
@bicylindrico
@bicylindrico Жыл бұрын
Your videos are great David. As an amateur hotrod style engine builder (Mercedes-Benz), I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I always seem to learn a new perspective with each one. Phil does a great job explaining as well. Cheers!
@stevehammel2939
@stevehammel2939 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video even though I don't own a SBF because it's a no-nonsense approach to porting that has been justified by the dyno and the race track.
@bsracer85
@bsracer85 Жыл бұрын
Mr Vizard I enjoy/like your videos but am having trouble finding the next one in the series. Not wanting to complain but which is the video after this one?
@ezacher4634
@ezacher4634 Жыл бұрын
Really cool. Now transfer that onto a cnc and never have to grind again!
@peggyparrow2059
@peggyparrow2059 Жыл бұрын
A gasket is most always bigger than the bore ! My hubby puts dykem on the head , then bolts it to an empty block, turns it up side down , reaches down the bores and scribes lines even with bores. That way you never have chambers bigger than your bore, which causes turbulance.
@lelanburns6182
@lelanburns6182 Жыл бұрын
What you don't know is that turbulence is there for a reason. By design by Ford.
@matthewmoilanen787
@matthewmoilanen787 Жыл бұрын
​@@lelanburns6182No it absolutely is not. That's just goofy. Turbulence in a head piston squish area is created by the clearance between the head surface and the piston top. The idea that turbulence would develop in a recess like that is just not sensible or supported by any engineering theory or practice.
@davidd.barton2488
@davidd.barton2488 Жыл бұрын
​@@lelanburns6182😂what u don't no is ur ass from a hole in the ground 💯 hahaha
@gersonhay984
@gersonhay984 7 ай бұрын
Great Craftsmanship. Loved it.
@fastmonaro05
@fastmonaro05 Жыл бұрын
Just Wondering when Part 2 of this Ford OEM Heads is coming???? Just very curious to see the flow figures, specs and dyno results.
@thomasfischer2638
@thomasfischer2638 Жыл бұрын
Also this time David, big thank you for your work
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Жыл бұрын
I try to apply these instructions to my twostroke transfer channels. Great video!
@LujinCustom
@LujinCustom Жыл бұрын
Honestly. I wish there was a David Vizard for transmissions!!!!
@brentbuxton9570
@brentbuxton9570 9 ай бұрын
I am dying to hear the rest of the story. Are you still doing headporting classes? Thank you for being generous with the information we Benefit from your vast knowledge.
@MichaelRandall-f1o
@MichaelRandall-f1o 13 күн бұрын
As a machinist using latex mold material. make castings of one side of the port at a time, that way its easier to get the material out. Than use a optical comparator and get the sizes of the radi. And compare each bowl.
@bobirving6052
@bobirving6052 Жыл бұрын
Don’t need to apologize for music. It’s fine.
@unclebrentsshed4253
@unclebrentsshed4253 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait till you start on the 318 mission impossible cylinder heads . Hopefully I can do the same job at home 👌🏽👌🏽
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Servedio is pretty deep into them already.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 Agree..that guy is full of talent.
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
i love everything about the way you put your videos together DV. Its attuning.
@robertharris8158
@robertharris8158 Жыл бұрын
GREAT INFO. I can't find pt. 2. Do you do work on customers heads? More details on the complete engine would be nice.
@denniskwasnycia1950
@denniskwasnycia1950 Жыл бұрын
Great video and info David! Much appreciated!!
@alext8828
@alext8828 Жыл бұрын
The video's fine. Not a problem with the music. Keep up the good work. Always like and subscribed.
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 6 ай бұрын
Reading the title I was thinking they must be spinning the little guy to 8,000. Haha, reminds me of my 283 back in the day, although it was only 410 hp, but I'm no wizard, I mean Vizard.
@robertreavley7145
@robertreavley7145 Жыл бұрын
I bought your book called port & flow test cylinder heads. Now onto chapter 2. But I’d like to say this David. These videos have given me some of the best information visualisations and help to understand the language of this art! I’m so very grateful for all your kind help you have offered us all! Although I’m chomping at the bit to start porting the 2V heads on my 72 Ford 400 motor I’m going to absorb as much as possible from your videos and book, before I start!
@martinandersson1049
@martinandersson1049 Жыл бұрын
For myself I would even say that with these videos. It helps me understand a lot more of what I'm reading in DV's books. Nowdays when I go back and read in my A-series book. It almost feels like someone have swiched the light on!
@robertreavley7145
@robertreavley7145 Жыл бұрын
@@martinandersson1049 yes! Definitely
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 Жыл бұрын
400 heads??? Dont bother, chamber is way too big. And worse you struggle to get a decent piston. If you are serious get those rods bushed then use 351C pistons,, or better Aussie 302 heads which are small chamber, Never bother with 4Vs unless you want to turn it to the moon.. 72 400 is around 8.5-1 with about a 78cc chamber. 302 heads are around 60cc. Factory height 71 400 pistons will give around 9.8-`1 with a 50 thou cut. But all I have seen in replacement pistons have the crowns in a different postcode, worse most headgaskets are at least 10 thou thicker. It all adds up rapidly to about 7.5-1 with 'replacement pistons and fat gaskets
@robertreavley7145
@robertreavley7145 Жыл бұрын
@@ldnwholesale8552 hi thanks for the info! The heads on it are 2V small ports. With Porto g and raising the exhaust outlay 2 mm plus de shrouding. And 27,thou off the heads with flat top pistons should be in the 8.9/1 plus a descent cam to up the dynamic compression. Which is a definite mod anyway with intake and headers I’m looking at around 450-500 Hp. If the heads don’t yield good results then it’s a pair a AFR heads and a solid roller! I’m hoping to get a descent amount from the 2vheads though! But your right about the 4V’s I’ve seen DV on here filling the inlets with JB Weld! To shorten the ports! Thanks again bud!
@RollingRigTraction
@RollingRigTraction 10 ай бұрын
Best option is change the factory retarded timing gears to advance at least 6° then just boost it with a different cam profile. The 400 is a torque monster especially the 71's mine actually pulled a wheelie in a Ranch Wagon on the 1-2 shift at around 55mph, scared the Hell out of me. Best option for the 400 if you want serious power is getting CHF heads and matching intake with a rowdy cam anything Jon Kaase did to that engine made crazy power numbers. No the 400 is NOT A BOAT ANCHOR as so many used to complain of, it was a dog with the horrid timing and garbage compression ratios and would run on and diesel and knock and ping like a sucker but with the correct bearing it was quick to accelerate.
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 6 ай бұрын
I remember reading an old Hot Rod magazine article from the mid 60's talking about Shelby cobra 289 race engines and it said the famous head porting shop next door to Shelby in Burbank had the race engines pulling 450 - 475 HP. As I recall they were putting chevy 1.90 intake valves in the 289 heads (the chevy SB 2.02 valves would not fit) and then porting the 289 heads. It's been a long time but I believe the end of the article said they were currently experimenting with the Ford 352 heads to see how those could be adapted to the 289 with hopes of getting over 500 HP.
@jscjsc7686
@jscjsc7686 3 ай бұрын
My 67 gt350 had valley heads built from hipo castings it had its engine fully balanced and prepped to trans am racing specs supplied to shelbys shop and tested before delivery, lots of chassis mods done as well. I got the car from my family in 90 then after an oil change and setting carb( 750dp) doing valve lash and installing msd with rev limiter, we chassis dynoed it. 435rwhp at 7500rpm With a summer of careful testing i was able to raise the rev limiter to 8400rpm. I installed a t5 v8 2.95 1st gear and .80 od. This thing was reving like a ferrari i had a crossover kind of headers might have been a 180 degree set. Absolutely a wild exaust note. With 3.30 rear gears i got it to 8200rpm in 5th going down a shallow long hill😮 about 5 miles long. Mathematically that was 197mph. 😊 Reality was probably 10% off but i never ever tried that again. Shelby was destroyed in a garage fire where i was getting the fiberglass sidescoups remounted due to the studs detaching. All i could keep was fire scorched engine intake melted!. 10:51
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who can get a production iron 289 / 302 head to 500 hp naturally aspirated is above my pay grade.
@marklowe7431
@marklowe7431 8 ай бұрын
All gets down to flow figures. There's a lot of very good alloy heads there days that have great air speed and flow. Some of the factors for many also include the money spent on an old iron head vs a new better designed, material and parts options. From memory most started with 351 heads on 289s.
@cjespers
@cjespers Жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome! Thanks for all you do!
@dayno82
@dayno82 Жыл бұрын
Thanks David.. pure gold … 👌
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 2 ай бұрын
This video is posted on Vizard’s old channel as well as this new one, but part two has never been posted on either channel that I can find! I would love to see the results of this work. Dave claimed it made 503 HP let’s see it! Thanks!
@brandonhill3496
@brandonhill3496 Жыл бұрын
Everything is very informational and appreciated thanks always
@johnflett2531
@johnflett2531 Жыл бұрын
Those 289 chambers were so small and perfect for modifying. Makes me want to get a pair of small chamber 352 heads and do the same mods.
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
I had a set of those heads. Opened them up for 1.94/1.60 valves. Those early castings had plenty of meat.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
@@robertwest3093 DV does big valves on his.
@jesse75
@jesse75 Жыл бұрын
Those 352 heads hard to find.
@spete3476
@spete3476 Жыл бұрын
where is part 2
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
I've often wondered about unshrouding by relieving the chamber and cylinder wall like the 396 BBC. This was and old Y block trick 60+ yrs ago..
@mikeadkins8215
@mikeadkins8215 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee you I would screw this up! Great work!
@billyfoster3223
@billyfoster3223 26 күн бұрын
Great stuff!!😁👍🛠️🔧
@jrorie72
@jrorie72 Жыл бұрын
Cleveland videos please!
@jrorie72
@jrorie72 Жыл бұрын
The entire 335 family!
@cliftonsheldon9134
@cliftonsheldon9134 Жыл бұрын
I agree! I would love to see how far David could take an iron Cleveland head!
@lloydlawson6876
@lloydlawson6876 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever looked at an Aussie Cleveland head?
@kramrollin69
@kramrollin69 Жыл бұрын
Go to DragBoss Garage Channel. He is the US Cleveland Guru. kzbin.info?app=desktop
@theshed8802
@theshed8802 Жыл бұрын
Yes please, small port and large port please
@robertcurtiss7191
@robertcurtiss7191 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos and info
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 11 ай бұрын
I would like to know where the block was broken at.
@tonyshoemaker7483
@tonyshoemaker7483 9 ай бұрын
Where is the end results? Cant find part 2
@richardtheweaver4891
@richardtheweaver4891 Жыл бұрын
Lots of artistry. I stopped the video to look at the kid's work. Thumbs up I note that you're increasing displacement and reducing compression ratio a bit. Is it at all significant?
@RobertFazio-l2v
@RobertFazio-l2v 10 ай бұрын
Hi Dave, Is part 2 out yet?
@RobertoHernandez-zc9rv
@RobertoHernandez-zc9rv Жыл бұрын
I love these Ford SBF projects
@searlearnold2867
@searlearnold2867 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. I wonder how you could mod the same heads to run low compression, 87 octane for a great street engine? Occasional track days and cruising in a 65 Mustang 2+2.
@bobirving6052
@bobirving6052 Жыл бұрын
Use water injection with 87 octane. David has several videos on this.
@searlearnold2867
@searlearnold2867 Жыл бұрын
@@bobirving6052 Thanks, will check it out.
@matthouse8499
@matthouse8499 Жыл бұрын
Thank you David, I was just curious, have you ever ported any duel port VW heads and if so are there any videos
@bobirving6052
@bobirving6052 Жыл бұрын
He has a video on the “bathtub” chambers.
@alexgrindnshine2522
@alexgrindnshine2522 7 ай бұрын
Holy shit the Acid is finally kicking in. 😝
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Жыл бұрын
Every video has things to learn if a guy pays attention. Even someone like me that has been building winning engines for 30 years
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
USed to get busted in the 70s for reading his books in class folded up in my bigger school books, lol
@jeromeogivenz4470
@jeromeogivenz4470 Жыл бұрын
I love your program, and I also love fox body mustangs. Would you do a video engine formula, for the 5.0 fox body mustang
@PrescribedFire
@PrescribedFire Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the knowledge in this video, and the timing of the upload. I'm currently in the process of porting my set of 289 heads, which also happen to be for a '66 mustang GT, and are the first set of cylinder heads I've done any significant work to. I have a question: based on your expertise, in addition to the porting work shown in this video, would installing larger 351W valves (1.85"/1.55") have additional benefits in performance on a high compression 289, or are the flow numbers/HP/Tq ratings similar compared the stock valves (1.78"/1.45") after porting. I would love to hear your input. - James P.
@daledavies2334
@daledavies2334 Жыл бұрын
In another episode, DV talks about area rule. This is the area of the valve curtain up to about .25 of the valve lift. The area between the valve and seat up to that point is what limits the intake flow. Exhaust also but the higher pressure gas is a determinate. What this says is, yes a larger valve will tend to produce/allow more flow especially at low lift. For years guys have been installing the Chev 1.94"/1.6" valves in the SBF heads. Another option now is the LS 1.9"/1.55" valves. Keeper heights are close to the same as the Ford valves with either choice of Chev valves. The 1.94"/1.6" use the same 11/32" diameter stems as the Ford. If your guides are worn I would choose the LS valves. They are about 20g to 25g lighter. When you need new guides anyway, installing 5/16" bronze guides and hone to fit the 8mm stems is a bonus. You do need retainers, keepers and springs. If you have the 63 1/2 to 66 regular performance heads with pressed in rocker studs, you likely have a spring installed height of 1.64" to 1.66". PAC has dual springs that will work with flat tappets and .55" lift. If you have the HiPo heads or 67 and later heads, the spring installed height should be 1.78". In this case the LS retainers, keepers and probably springs from a Pick n Pull engine will work. The LS installed height is 1.8". These parts also reduce the moving mass of the valve train. If hou have the early 351 heads with the 1.84" valves or the GT40/ GT40P heads with the 1.84" valves, the LS6 has 2.00" intake valves that can be put in these heads. The Ford valves are a bit longer but not a problem. Rocker geometry must be checked. Lash caps may help correct the shorter valve stems. I would also consider 7/16" rocker studs for extra strength and stability. Also roller rockers to fit the 7/16" studs. There is a cost premium to this, but the benefits outweight the extra cost, IMHO. Non HiPo heads probably do not have pushrod guides built in the heads, so guide plates are likely required. If the pushrod holes have the guide slots, the stud bosses need to be milled down about 0.250". If the holes are round, guide plates are required. In this case the bosses need to be milled 0.300". With the almost 0.125" larger intake valves and other porting work as described in DV's PowerTec 10 Ford porting videos, a single pattern cam with about 107° LSA can be used to good effect.
@PrescribedFire
@PrescribedFire Жыл бұрын
@Dale Davies lots of great info, thank you. My castings are C60E-M with cast-in guides, originally on a '66 GT. Is it true that bronze valve guides can potentially seize on a valve stem causing catastrophic engine failure? The reason I ask is, I'm running a multi carbureted manifold (3x2) that is notorious for tuning issues related to the idle circuit and/or proper jetting. If not tuned correctly, there could be lean cylinders at some point throughout the RPM range. The increased heat in the affected cylinders could cause the valve guides above that cylinder to expand at an increased rate and potentially seize a valve. At least, that's my understanding based on my research. In my application, if needed, are cast iron guides available and would they be the better option?
@daledavies2334
@daledavies2334 Жыл бұрын
@@PrescribedFireI have to admit that I do not know on the bronze guide seizing. Bronze should have a tendency to self lubricate. Obviously the exhaust valves are more of a concern, so the stem clearance could be opened up slightly. I would talk to your head machinist concerning this. I bought an RPM AirGap for my 66 289 to replace the 2V carb. The AVS2 carbs were not available then. When I get my engine back together I will put it back on as previously run. Then I will replace the primary boosters with the AVS2 650 boosters for better fuel atomization. The AirGap lacks heat so good atomization at the carburetor is a big help. My cam is one I had in a 351 and the guy that bought the car for parts was going to rebuild it. I got the cam and lifters out of it with low miles. I drilled a 2 × 4 with 1" holes and marked the cylinders so I can put them back on the same lobes. The cam is an Engele; 210° @ 0.050" 256° @ 0.006" LSA is 109°, a bit wide for the 289, but considering I have it I will use it. Valve lift is 0.472" with 1.6 rockers. I got Scorpion 1.72:1 rockers to get lift over 0.5". I will get the exhaust seats cut at 40° and the exhaust valves to 39°. According to David Vizard this helps blowdown at low lift, similar to back cutting the intake valves. The intakes will still be 45° seats with a back cut. Another trick for the exhaust valves is to chuck them in a drill press and use a fine file to round off the outer cylinder side of the margin. You can also use a flapper wheel in a drill while the drill is turning to swirl polish the port side of the valves, especially the intake. 320 grit works. DV's PowerTec 10 Ford head porting videos show how to prep the heads to enable 500HP. DV also built a dyno mule using Chev 5.7 powdered metal con rods and Mahle Chev pistons. Compression height is short with this but 1mm, 1mm and 2mm rings help. I am planning another 289 build using aftermarket light Chev 5.565 rods with the big ends machined for the SBF journal and bearing sizes. This leaves the compression height at 1.200" to 1.210" for a tight quench. Do look up DV's Ford porting videos. You have heard of SBF blocks breaking. A lot of that is front to rear vibration that fatiques the main webs. In DV's 1,000HP Ford block video he shows block modifications for splayed 4 bolt mains, a lifter valley reinforcement and concrete filling the block up to the bottom of the water holes where water enters from the water pump. This changes the natural frequency and damps vibrations. This does not harm cooling as most of the heat is in the top 1" of the cylinder. Another thing to look into is Strategic Cooling. You would epoxy freeze plugs into the front water holes in the block and then drill to say 3/4". Then the water passages in the timing cover would be drilled and tapped or an aluminium nipple welded on with a 3/4" NPT thread. The block is drilled and tapped for 3/8" NPT between the front two cylinders on each side and also the rear two cylinders each side. This creates swirl around the cylinder tops. A manifold needs to be made out of tubing, 3/8" stainless. Also the heads can be drilled and tapped to inject coolant directed between the exhaust seat and spark plug. This is an option available through AFR Cylinder Heads.A 1/2" or 3/4" tube should come from each side of the timing cover and around the side of the block. The 3/8" tubes get welded to that to distribut the coolant where it is most needed, thus the Strategic Cooling name. I think it is Stewart Cooling that describes this into the heads rather than reverse cooling. Deairation is not a problem with this.
@68nitrostang
@68nitrostang Жыл бұрын
How do I find out cam specs on the cam used to make 500 Hp with the 289 ported heads
@juantrujillobustos6582
@juantrujillobustos6582 Жыл бұрын
Que valvulas puedo colocar mas grandes para mi 289 ?
@dtruth5769
@dtruth5769 Жыл бұрын
That's some intro!
@husqv5147
@husqv5147 Жыл бұрын
Crazy interesting stuff.
@lloydlawson6876
@lloydlawson6876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hard work!
@jamesguidry3995
@jamesguidry3995 6 ай бұрын
Where can I buy a complete set of these of these so called 500 HP street heads ? Show me the dyno AFR VS THESE HEADS !
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 4 ай бұрын
Never seen part two and these guys don’t read the comments! I believe DV may have had some health issues around the time this video was uploaded and the second video showcasing the results has been overlooked. I even went to Andy’s channel and asked about it hoping he would read the comment and realize the results video needs uploaded. At the end of this video DV states the results were all they expected and then some so the results are there. It sucks to be left hanging when you claim 500 HP out of cast 289 heads! Andy has his Boss heads so 289 heads are probably not a priority to him..... ???
@kennethcohagen3539
@kennethcohagen3539 Жыл бұрын
Where were you in 1980? I had graduated a couple years before and found myself working for Checker Auto, in AZ. It certainly wasn’t what I wanted to do, but the pay was better than I could make with no mechanics jobs available, as those jobs were being filled by guys who were moving away from snow country that had experience. One of my employees was working for us was a smart kid who was a senior at my former school. When he started building an engine for his mustang I told him about an article I had read in an old Hot Rod Annual. I told him I was certain that I could help him get into the 14’s, or maybe the 13’s if we could find a few places to pull a little extra power from. We got the car into the low 14’s without much trouble, and when he swapped the C4 auto trans for a top loader the car was solidly running 13’s. He wanted to go faster, like all the rest of us. The next build was a 12 second motor, with a bigger cam and higher static compression, around 11-1. The necessitated the constant use of octane booster, but it was cheap enough for him to buy with Checker’s employee discount. Then he decided to add Nitrous Oxide to the mix, giving him a 50 to 100 hp boost. That pushed the car into the. 11’s. We did all this with stock heads that were port matched and a little bit of work knocking off casting flash. E had plans to put some 351W heads on it and we’re looking for the 4 bbl castings which had smaller combustion chambers, but they are very scarce. I’ve only seen one set of those in my whole life. Anyway, I wish we had had this info back then! Unfortunately p, my friend lost his life when a drunk driver entered the highway going the w wrong way right in front of him. He managed to put his Datsun truck into a slide, turning it sideways and taking the brunt of the impact on his side of the truck. He managed to save his girlfriend’s life, but at a terrible cost. Randy was one of the best drivers I’ve ever known. He cut some incredible reaction times at the track, and when his friend when all out on his Mustang, where we built a full on 351C to power it, Randy squeezed an 8.82 out of it during the winter nats, while the pro stock guys were turning 8.70’s. If we had a newer body to slide the power train into we could have stepped things up a bit and made the field. But it wasn’t meant to be. Thinking back in that first or second build, you heads would have helped put Randy’s ride into the low 11’s or quicker. I wish I had known about this way back when!
@JakeMakesProductions
@JakeMakesProductions 2 ай бұрын
Do we have a part 2 to this video?
@torquebooster
@torquebooster Жыл бұрын
At 8:30 why is working on the area shown in the video leading to power loss? Very good info in this video.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
He has said that cutting that out disrupts the flow on the valve. Kills power and rpm limit by 4-500 rpm.
@torquebooster
@torquebooster Жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 but why does it disrupt the flow?
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
@@torquebooster The swirl in the chamber flows out the intake valve at lower lifts when it should be coming in. That ridge deflects the flow.
@torquebooster
@torquebooster Жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 I do not think that is the case. The ridge is on the cylinder wall side. Maybe Mr. Vizard can give the right answer.
@martinvestergaard6707
@martinvestergaard6707 Жыл бұрын
good videos! have your a-series tuning bible
@PeggyParrow
@PeggyParrow 8 ай бұрын
The gasket hole is always bigger than the bore in the block !! If you port to the gasket edge, the chamber will over hang the bore anð interfere with intake flow ! The way to do it, is use empty block put blueing around chambers, bolt heads to block turn block upside down, reach down bores and scribe lines on heads. Know you have the exact size of the bores transfered to the heads !, Hope this helps, GOD bless.
@frederickhairston3823
@frederickhairston3823 Жыл бұрын
David have video porting 2v cleveland heads.
@zeroswings2
@zeroswings2 Жыл бұрын
maybe I missed it, but what are the 1.47 and 1.1 radii in reference to... I know they are for unshrouding reference for the intake and exhaust valves respectively... but are they rules of thumb "percentages" of the overall valve Ø for each of these specific valves (similar to the .88 of valve Ø for throats) or are they more general numbers... I hope that makes sense-i just can't seem to word it the way I want
@traviscallaway9675
@traviscallaway9675 Жыл бұрын
Call it a radius multiplier. Valve R x 1.47= deshrouding area. Deshrouding more important on intake, radius into seat area more important on exhaust, yet deshroud as much as reasonably possible. Remember, everything you take away makes for a bigger chamber.
@zeroswings2
@zeroswings2 Жыл бұрын
@@traviscallaway9675 thanks... I assume (maybe incorrectly) a flowball sized using that equation would work in the same way or maybe in conjunction with the scribing/dichem method used...
@traviscallaway9675
@traviscallaway9675 Жыл бұрын
@@zeroswings2 it would, just easier than having multiple balls. Yet the proper flow ball is more accurate for minimum dimensions, have to remember air wants to move in a straight line, the more area to work with gives you options.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
Scribe the head gasket line. Radius off the intake valve 1.47. That shows you how much to relieve the chamber on the intake side of the spark plug. Don't go outside the gasket line.
@randylankford5775
@randylankford5775 Жыл бұрын
David have you done a video on decking a block?
@johnelliott4521
@johnelliott4521 Жыл бұрын
Life begins at 7000 rpm.
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy Жыл бұрын
I really want to get a pair of used 2nd gen small block LT1 heats to take a shot at porting. My 96 Buick Roadmaster sedan needs some help. And I can't afford aftermarket heads. I can't even afford used aluminum heads. Plus I don't want to spend too much money on a set of heads that I might mess up. But I've gotta start somewhere
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
See if Cyl head exchange sells rebuilt sets they are affordable. Basic porting rules apply same as most any V8, done many sets of LTx heads.
@roneby2323
@roneby2323 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any idea just how much “cylinder wall bias” material can be removed from the bowl wall? The bowl roof? The side opposite wall? Roof? Any idea of throat percentages on intake and exhaust? He mentions having a radius leading to the valve seat which implies leaving some throat material there.... I have some ‘66 289 heads from the 80’s that I drag raced in an 11 second Falcon Ranchero with some home garage port work and Chevy valves. The intake throats are 1.50”/1.88” = 79.7%. Exhaust 1.24”/1.45” = 85.5%. I have read that intake should be 90-92% and exhaust 88%. Any ideas?
@lancecolby7792
@lancecolby7792 Жыл бұрын
Hey David! I got a few questions you may not answer this but for valve deshrouding in the chamber is there a formula for it like it scales with the valve? And for the port doesn’t the throat work off percentages? Because I’m the video it is said to have been just smoother out?
@JH-oh1in
@JH-oh1in 6 ай бұрын
I like to scribe the head on the block, I think its a better way to size it cylinderwall interference or shrouding. But to each their own I am an idiot in a garage with a grinder.
@darrencowling2339
@darrencowling2339 Жыл бұрын
Hi David, thank you for sharing all this knowledge. i have maxed out my internet twice watching your videos (can't get unlimited where i live). Now please excuse my ignorance, i have searched the internet for information on "Flowing to 28 inches". without success. What does this actually mean? if possible could you do a video on this subject. I'm sure that there must be other people like myself that can't come to grasps with this statement. Or maybe I'm the only one...
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
That's the amount of suction/vacuum (restriction to flow) being pulled through the port while on the flow bench. Pulling water 28 inches up a tube, suction overcoming gravity. You'll see the red dye in the tubes on the flow bench to more easily see the liquid. 28" is an "industry standard" value for comparisons. By keeping the suction constant, any change in flow by porting or increased valve opening is easily seen. Each time the valve is opened farther, 28" needs to be reset.
@darrencowling2339
@darrencowling2339 Жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for the reply. However i still not understanding the physical connection of the tube\s are being sucked on. if they are on the vacuum side the liquid would be sucked straight out of the tank (if there is a tank). So the only way you could move the liquid up the tube is to apply a slight vacuum. the only way (I think) you could apply a slight vacuum is to have the tube somehow interface with the air being drawn through the port. So is there a tube placed in or near the port? or is it some kind of venturi that the air passes over causing suction? (Like a spray gun) A physical diagram would be awesome! I am in the process of rebuilding a 351C using stock heads (2V) for street use, and I want to apply DV's knowledge to get the best results. i would like to build my own flow bench so i can see the results before and after valve and porting changes. BTW I have never seen a flow bench in person. I probably wouldn't be asking these questions if i had. I've only seen on KZbin. Regards Darren
@kylerush7948
@kylerush7948 7 ай бұрын
When you say cylinder wall side on the runner what do you mean?
@garykarenmcgruther6386
@garykarenmcgruther6386 Жыл бұрын
D.V., What it the 1.47 intake and 1.1 Exhaust? percent or add on from center of valves?
@MrRoughNutz
@MrRoughNutz Ай бұрын
incredible
@dannoyes4493
@dannoyes4493 Жыл бұрын
Well Done! Thank you!
@Oyou812-b1x
@Oyou812-b1x 3 ай бұрын
Where is part 2?
@LasloPferg-ru2vt
@LasloPferg-ru2vt 5 ай бұрын
Over ten minutes into the video and he actually says “now we”ll get to what this video is to be about”. WTF do these people think?
@stevegarboden2437
@stevegarboden2437 Жыл бұрын
Are these mods applicable to the E7TE heads?, there seems to be more of those around these days.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think DV has done E7 videos.
@bobwhite4344
@bobwhite4344 Жыл бұрын
great vid.
@CatDaddyTuning
@CatDaddyTuning Жыл бұрын
Would these even out power the CNC AFR race heads?
@garysells4259
@garysells4259 Жыл бұрын
What size valves
@julianobrod
@julianobrod Жыл бұрын
Hi David. About intake system, polished, dimpling or roughness? What the best application for each option? Thank's.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
On video DV has said the only reason he polishes them is that the customer thinks it's prettier, and he is in the head porting business $$$.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Жыл бұрын
The finish will make almost 0 difference at all. PRetty doesnt equal power I only leave a carbide finish on my personal pieces these days. If in doubt use a 60- grit tootsie roll and call it good dont worry about it looks. Ive poked holes chasing that lol
@shawncoffin1153
@shawncoffin1153 3 ай бұрын
Can I hire you to upgrade my 289 heads?
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