Problem Horse: He Flips Over

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

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[@John-ml4ol]

What are your thoughts on clinton anderson?

[@jefferyschirm4103]

CK. His teeth , float if nes. Then if all is well , put on an old wore out saddle , when he rears jump and pull , slam him to the ground , in a softer spot ,daaa , as soon as he scrambles up be mounted , I go down baby your going too. Probley never do it again ! P.S. that takes a cowboy !

[@williecosgrove]

@@jefferyschirm4103 A man that knows how to handle horses without all the bullshit, half these so called trainers are full of shit. Out for the handy money

[@williecosgrove]

@@John-ml4ol Another money grabbing FRAUD

[@D.Lily02]

Thank you, Ryan, for your kindness and understanding of this horse and taking time with him! I've worked with horses over 37 years now and have come across all types of trainers. It's so refreshing to see someone who cares about the horse!! Thank you!!! ☺️

[@kristine447]

I owned a beautiful palomino named Misty. I owned her from age 6 until her passing at age 21. She flipped over backwards on me 12 times until I finally figured her out. Vets checked out everything they found nothing. I simply changed her bit to a bit less bridle/ hackamore. She stopped flipping. Her mouth was just extra sensitive. Her whole being was sensitive. We road hundreds of miles together, trails and shows. She and I became inseparable. I could ride her anywhere with a thought alone eventually. When she passed I lost my best friend. ❤️

[@judisnyder4868]

This woman stated she used bit less bridles (hackamores).

[@JustJoyHowdy]

That's so good!! I'm so glad u took the time to get to know her.

[@ashtonsawesomeaussieanimal2133]

Aw

[@jennifergudmundson2277]

So happy you both figured out the resolution. So sad you lost your ❤️.

[@beckythomas4150]

Posing an animal you love hurts just as bad as loosing a family member.

[@brittnyhawk8633]

Good for this lady to check for pain first to the point she even rode bitless. Most people don't even think pain first. She a good owner.

[@chelseazarate189]

Absolutely but behaviors develope from holes in their foundation(whether that be pain/fear avoidance or even just negligence) I would never slap a bitless bridle or hackamore on a horse with a known issue. Start from the bottom, reassess and fill in holes

[@brittnyhawk8633]

@chelseazarate189 Yes agree. I start on the ground first and see if find holes there first then build up. I prefer to go home at the end of the day as I arrived there 😆

[@Chris-nw5lk]

I've seen so many riders balancing on the horse's mouth. They never stop to think how painful and ridiculous that is

[@GoToPhx]

I am more impressed with this trainer than I expected to be. This is a very sensitive horse (some call this reactive) and in my experience there are a lot of 'cowboy trainers' who don't know how to deal with this type of horse. Well done Mr. Rose.

[@Andrew_M_Ward]

agreed: horses are like kids... They can have a hard time expressing themselves and communicating and they all have their own personality

[@cathyweiss1814]

Are you crazy sick

[@louamico3338]

😅

[@Cwgrlup]

Most people would have sent a horse like this down the slaughter pipeline. Very dangerous behavior.

[@GoToPhx]

@@Cwgrlup I think you're right. or sold them without disclosing the behavior, and made it 'someone else's problem'.

[@stacisewell7824]

When I was 11 or 12 years old, I used to ride horses at a friend's farm. They bought a beautiful bay gelding, that was a dream to ride and work. Part of the deal was a buckskin gelding with behavior problems came with the other horse. They were bonded friends. The buckskin had been abused badly, you could feel old scars from spurs and whips under his coat. His mouth had been damaged and he had a serious mistrust of men. Something about him lured me in and I begged to be given a chance to work with him. Gaining his trust and getting to a point where he would give me what I asked of him, took several months. Most of that time wasn't in the saddle. It was working around him, working other horses and bringing him along on rides. Showing him that humans weren't all abusive. It was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life. He taught me so much! Watching your video was terrific. You truly have a gift. It was lovely to watch that gelding begin to focus on you and to give you what you were asking for. This was the first video, of yours, I have watched, but it will not be the last. Thank you very much!

[@Blueangel17lake]

I agree, Ryan is good!

[@marymcelvain4]

I only have one question, and I apologize if it’s naive: how come he did not try lunging without the flag first?

[@calista1280]

​​@@marymcelvain4He's doing an appraisal to see how reactive & spooky this horse is. Can he read the human's energy & intention or does he blindly react.

[@hmheather66]

My gosh this woman is brave! Congrats to her for working through his issues and not just dumping him somewhere.

[@nicolegroves6880]

The fact that someone would be praised for simply not "dumping" an entire animal, a living being that they have taken on and made a commitment to, is so completely and totally bizarre to me.

[@yvonneschouten8973]

Lucky horse to finally find a trainer who is trying to understand and connect with him. He looks very standoffisch and tight lipped with his head being high up in the air! It's great to see how his defensive behaviour disappeared when he came in lowering his head, chewing and even taking a deep breath. He looks like a worried horse that doesn't trust people too much. I hope you get to work him some more and he can learn to understand to get soft and forward. Thank you for sharing!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thanks

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Yvonne how’s the weather over there

[@rebeccaluvshorses]

Lucky horse that his owner has not only not sold him, but didn’t give up when trainer #1 didn’t ‘fix’ him. She’s a gem too!

[@RtrawberrXiey]

@@ryanrosehorsemanship I have so many questions😭

[@rickraber1249]

I remember describing my horse as stupid to an old cowboy who worked the Calgary Stampede. He informed me that the horse wasn't stupid, maybe I should take a look at myself. (Oops!)

[@jamiegoodman8172]

I loved that you clued in to his being an introvert! Just like humans, not all horses are the same. Learning to understand them and work with them, as you said "where they are" is so necessary, for ALL species of creatures.

[@jamestoneryequestrian9130]

Does he ride this horse or just play with ropes n flags.

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Jamie how’s the weather over there

[@marilynbridges8697]

Some problems are better solved on the ground than on their back, and a whole lot safer. He is paying more attention to the horse than you are.

[@frankarchuleta5427]

Good luck but sometimes they’re not worth getting killed over. We had a beautiful Morgan/quarter mare. The only thing she was good for was as brood mare. She raised some good colts. She was very dangerous under saddle.

[@lilianmcguigan9240]

I must say, I was truly touched by the way you got into this horse's head, making a connection with him, and seeing his response. I could see the light of interest go on in him. Just wonderful.

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Lilian how’s the weather over there

[@shelll9254]

I think a few Drs in many fields could learn a bit more about The human condition,.and deal with it in a humain way....don't you✌️💗

[@Doxymeister]

Interesting case. This horse not only held his head high, he also seemed determined to look outward at everything except the human in the ring with him, right up until his attention was required. He'd focus on Ryan but as soon as he moved out, his head was pointed outward--he rotated his ears like he was listening, but continued to focus outside the ring. It will be interesting to see part 2. Hope you can help this horse--I had a well-trained horse flip over on me when I was in my teens, and am now profoundly disabled due to old injuries. It's really easy to get badly hurt working around horses. On to part 2...

[@2010GLambert]

My horse growing up was a 'flipper.' I was the only one that could really ride him. 18.1hh warmblood. Grew up in an area where ground work wasn't really a thing that was done - it was all hop on and hope for the best. The horse was extremely introverted, actually seemed quite shut down when I first started riding him (no personality, no reaction to anything aside from rearing/flipping over from pressure when he was unsure or nervous of something). Took several months for him to come out of his shell. Slow and easy with pressure won the race. Even after 2 years I'd still have some days where I'd get on and would spend 40 min just trying to get him to walk on a loose rein without rearing. Loved to see the groundwork side of this! If only more people took the time to understand the horses they were working with, as you do.

[@lizarutherford2477]

We love ya, man! "Why is this horse so troubled?" This is why we love you, RR. You have such empathy with your equine AND human students. My patreon follow with your account is the best money I have ever spent on my horses. You rock, Dude.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thank you 😊

[@iplawparalegalpdx]

💯

[@hopespringseternal3979]

@@ryanrosehorsemanshipso there was something I picked up on ( I’m not professional but I thought it might help) so he seems to keep a pencil form instead of being able to bend he stays very straight and keeps his head towards you not putting his hind quarters toward anyone 17:56

[@kain03]

Finally someone who trains by calmly communicating with a horse instead of using excessive force! He seems extremely willing to work with you and wants to understand what you're asking from him :)

[@mariamountain6718]

Love how the horse is paying more and more attention. He seems so train-able. Good on the lady to ask for professional help and advice! Hoping she can pick-up some communication-skills, together with her good-boy 🐴❤️ Now, we can all learn from this. Thank you!! 😄🥳 So much good-will 😊🕊 wishing ya'll the best! 🙏

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thanks 👍👌

[@Growmap]

We have to wonder about the other "trainer" she sent this horse to because I would swear this horse was never properly started. At the beginning, he acts just like a horse when you first begin ground work leading up to riding with one. But later, the lariat rope on his rump didn't bother him. So I suspect someone did teach him to lead using one. In the other trainer's defense, though, I've seen a lot of people who think they're trainers because they finish horses that someone else started properly. There is a big difference between starting one at the beginning and being able to continue training on a horse that already knows the basics. And I could easily prove that. Send them out to catch a horse that has never been caught. Or ask them to lead a horse that is not halter trained across a paddock.

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Maria how’s the weather over there

[@sueblood7793]

This connection this horse has with this guy almost immediately is AMAZING!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thanks

[@KingsMom831]

These are some of my favorite videos Ryan does. I love watching him work with horses he’s never met.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Me to

[@mcampbell4556]

Kudos to her for continuing trying to get to the bottom of his issue. Many would just pawn a problem horse of this magnitude off on someone else. This is true love of the horse!❤

[@sherryw-ponyluv-er2394]

I really enjoyed watching this horse size you up Ryan. I feel like in that short session he decided you are an interesting and okay (perhaps different?) human. At the end, he was much more focused on you! Very nice.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Agreed 👍 thank you

[@lanischagreywolf6452]

I greatly enjoy your methods. I used to follow other popular trainers over the years but I found that some of their harsher methods did not work for every horse. Exhausting a horse doesn't always make them think and in some cases makes them compliant only because the punishment is definitely not worth it. I like how you allow the horses to problem solve. It's very enjoyable to watch your videos and I always like having lots of tools to work with myself.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thank you

[@GoToPhx]

Agree. Too many don't understand how to work with a more sensitive/reactive horse .

[@nancys.5968]

He's beautiful! In the first 15 minutes it looked like his attention was half elsewhere - looking away from you or at things off in the distance, and so he seemed confused by what was expected of him. Looks like he fully engaged with you around the 20 minute mark and was much more focused.

[@kevinm3059]

Ryan, I'm not a horse person and I'm not sure how this video found it's way into my KZbin list, but I found it fascinating. Awesome how you look at the psychology of the problem. I'll have to watch some more of your videos now.

[@AlpacaRenee]

Careful, Ryan’s videos are addictive😇

[@MrEzekiel1982]

Just wanted to say you are truly good at what you do Mr Rose. I love to watch the way you listen and try to understand the situation along with your bravery. Any horse would be blessed to encounter you

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thank you, that means a lot

[@Finbarbird]

This horse is underfed

[@InfinitEternaLovEmmanuel]

Amazing! This is truly an inspiring lesson and contains profoundly insightful wisdom that is just as applicable to us humans for how we should approach relationships with each other as well!

[@taronsingleton9333]

Hi Ryan. I recently came across your video series and I'm VERY impressed with your training style! You show us how to really connect with the horse's mind and apply logic and reasoning that is understandable to the horse. You make it look easy! Great videos! Keep them coming!

[@Sophia-mg8nr]

That horse is probably so happy to finally have a good owner that will take good care❤️ Good riding to you both

[@sherrivoelkert9999]

I can't believe how low he dropped his head! He is so relaxed at that point. He has so much potential in the right hands. With the right repetition, he won't remember how to respond with fear.

[@tammynichols7773]

I had a horse years ago that had a similar build. He once flipped on me without much warning. He had always been pretty obedient and soft and calm. Previously I had always used a padded solid girth. I realized later that I had used a string girth and he was cinch bound. When I mounted, he started to move forward as asked and kind of hunched to a stop and backed up. I’d had a bad day and chose to be frustrated by it rather than getting off and checking the equipment. I tried to force him forward, and the next thing I knew, we were flipping! No warning at all! From that point I would slightly snug the cinch, then lift his for legs to stretch out the skin to avoid any pinching. I wondered how I missed the signs of him going up until another point, using a string girth. I was saddling him as normal, I was about to stretch his legs to smooth the skin when someone surprised him. I watched in horror as he stuck his back feet under himself and with his head still down, he flipped, withers first! He was tied to the trailer, so the lead rope kept him from going over. That was the moment that I realized why I had no warning… anyway, because this horse is built a lot the same, perhaps he’s either previously been, or is currently getting, or being reminded of being, cinch bound and that’s a contributing factor. I look forward to seeing the end results!

[@kat0329]

Again: I love how you're way of working with horses and I see you as one of my top best trainers. The ability see what kind of individual you have in front of you and start from that. With such sensitive horses as this one, it is so important to show them that we see their small signs of anxiety or misunderstanding and reduce the pressure to prevent the "big" emotional outbursts. I have a horse like this as well, he was shut down when he came and it took many small steps and a lot of reading him in every situation to make him more relaxed and trusting. He is now a lot more outgoing, extroverted and happy horse. I believe these kind of horses are misunderstood and therefore not trusting. Keep it up Ryan, as a student with almost no income I'm thrilled to watch these free videos on KZbin. Inspiring as always. Lots of love from Sweden!

[@chrisp7548]

Your videos are really teaching me to watch the horse and its reactions so much more than I used to. It is so interesting to watch you interact with each horse you work with.Thanks again!!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

I’ve dedicated my life to understanding horses in order to help them understand humans, So that we can add value to them and prevent this.

[@lindahalsey5209]

He’s so happy that you the trainer “gets” his VERY sensitive nature. He would be a fantastic partner for you! He’s gorgeous.

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Linda how’s the weather over there

[@alecwheeler4945]

Really enjoyable to watch. Everything I love seeing in a training session with a horse... keeping your energy grounded but matching energies to the horse when guidance or correction is needed, consistency and precision of what's being asked, fairness & rewarding even the subtlest of tries, great timing on the release, and a genuine curiosity and true investment on how the horse is perceiving interactions/environment. Great stuff.

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Alec how’s the weather over there

[@gracehigby3804]

I love how you were connecting with the horse and they had their ear turned toward you and began to pay attention to you keep up the good work.

[@tracyjohnson5023]

Love the way Ryan explains the lights are on but nobody is home thing. Body present, brain gone. Not going to mention names, but so many trainers these days flood/overload horses. Yes, they're standing there taking it, but not processing. Ryan imo does a great job giving the horse time to engage and then to process.

[@lianna_burgener]

Such a beautiful gelding. I love watching you work with him and learning your training methods. I hope this pretty boy will continue to do well with his continued training and that his owner will be able to enjoy riding him in the future!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

😀👍

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Lianna how’s the weather over there

[@lianna_burgener]

@@stevenhenry4227 the weather is pretty good, except it's supposed to rain today.

[@stevenhenry4227]

@@lianna_burgener Oh that’s okay the weather over here is okay so where are you from? I’m from Dallas Texas but live in Miami Florida

[@lianna_burgener]

@@stevenhenry4227 I'm in Northern Utah.

[@arizonawildflwr]

He seems emotionally tired, just wants to be a horse...like he's tired of being told what to do, longs for his freedom to roam. As a Massage Therapist, I can't help but want to massage his neck muscles, they are tight/tense. He sure kept his eyes on the camera, making sure he was aware of his surroundings, on guard. What a beautiful beautiful horse!

[@beverlymiller525]

He is a very handsome gelding, for some reason I haven't seen very many buckskins, lately. I really think that he is going to be a wonderful horse as soon as this flipping over issue is solved and he starts to understand what you want from him, so that you guys are always on the same page. I'm very happy that you got him

[@senka2578]

Being introverted myself I can agree that introverts do need time to think and evaluate any situation before they act. Much of an introverts emotional response is internal. We only learn to express it externally because we live in an extroverted world that demands us to be that way. For animals, they don't understand that. So, we have to learn to accept and find the right way to communicate.

[@kingfisher9553]

This guy is really good. His energy is perfect. Also, gorgeous horse. Love how he's put together. I was particularly good with very dramatic horses and this buckskin would have confused me for a while. Ryan really knows his stuff. I'd guess that this horse could get damn near telepathic once he connected.

[@MR-lq7ss]

My first horse was like that. Once I realized she internalized her thinking, we worked out a process. It's fun to watch them thinking - theres a real depth to it.

[@christinestephenson1742]

This horses conformation on his body is OK but I would like to see more hip and hind leg. He is a bit ewe necked which makes him high headed. Also he has a very bad head, too thick, too long, and too shapeless. I bred, raised, and showed Paint horses for years.

[@katygarza-bair4163]

You have such an awesome gift. I am a wounded warrior and my spine injury has resulted in an imbalance when I ride. I have no idea if it is me or the horse. We board horses and are often able to exercise them. My sisters are very experienced riders but really aren’t sure how to help me. I would give anything for you to come out to the ranch. We have an amazing ranch manager. Maybe if you have time you could come north of WI to northern MN. Please consider helping me. Working with horses have been my life saving gift. I have a service dog but horses are even more therapeutic. Most of our horse owners are elderly but they know how well we take care of our charges. Now that my husband has retired from the Fargo PD, we are able to spend more time at the ranch. We would love to have you come out sometime. It would do a lot for me as well as the horses that stay with us.

[@allysonh6410]

I'm sorry for what you've been through. Thank u for your service! God bless u

[@jangrahame4891]

Had a horse that was so introverted and unconnected to humans yet super sensitive to external stimuli that I called him my autistic horse. Working to get eye contact and that connection with him was long hard work; but once I did, he became a truely awesome companion. Who leaned to me to interpret how he should handle a situation.

[@imogenlaci-mai]

Thank you for providing a lot of information on horses! I've been obsessed with horses all my life, riding since I was 2 years old (now almost 21) but have never been allowed to own my own as can't afford it. So I guess I can learn instead!

[@strashnayavedma9674]

I was the same but my parents wouldn't let me ride. I've had my own for some years and now a pony for my little grandson. Never give up if horses are what you want!

[@dianeharrelle6675]

Same here. But I was 23 y.o. and got my first horse and had them until I divorced and lost everything. I miss my horses. Now I'm disabled and definitely can't afford a horse at 64 y.o. my point is...do it now while your young.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

You bet

[@saspinks3001]

Horses came into my life unexpectedly in my later 40's. In the form of a 30yr old rock solid gelding who was suppose to be dying. We gave each other 8 amazing years and I've never looked back. I love Ryan's honest approach and I suspect the horses he works with do too.

[@marilynbridges8697]

Learn as much as you can so that you are ready to go when you do get the opportunity.

[@HEROICRacingApparel]

You are a great horseman. It is great to be able to watch your communication techniques with these animals.

[@humaneleaguelancPA]

I’m no expert and haven’t ridden in years but I love how this horse is responding to you.

[@stephanierutherford2683]

Great video Ryan. I've been helping a friend with a similar horse, and it's good to see my approach reflected in yours. Looking forwards to part 2!

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Stephanie how’s the weather over there

[@RosieandFriends1]

That horse definitely looks worried. I trained my horses myself. We learned together. My mare Bella would try and attack people. She would kick, charge and bite. I did some groundwork and all of those bad habits went away. Since I was training her when I didn’t know how to ride well I did a ton of groundwork. I did all of the groundwork steps without a saddle and then with a saddle. It took about two-three months before I rode her. We went very slow and built up slowly to the amount of time I spent in the saddle. Now you would never know that my horse was the worst horse in the barn. She’s very kind and cuddly. She tries to take care of me. She’s also a buckskin. It’s important to note that when I got her she had a baby that was a week old. She was only halter broke and I’m pretty sure she was beat. She would tremble and shake. It was sad. I know that if she had a baby know she would be completely fine with people going around the baby. She’s learned to trust people.

[@themystic6851]

I’ve been following horse trainers for years before there was internet. Ryan is one of the best trainers. Im looking forward to part two.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thank you 🙏

[@user-pp5px4gj6s]

Can't wait until part 2. Maybe the first time he's been handled with "feel." As much as this owner cares about this horse, it would be great if she could work with you on a regular basis so she can develope more feel, timing, etc. And of course, a subject for more good videos!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thank you, at the end of this session we created a plan for her to get continued help. I do that with as many of the horses I use in these videos as possible. 👍

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Linda how’s the weather over there

[@Solitude11-11]

Only problem I see with this horse is that nobody ever created a relationship with him from day one. Tried to communicate properly. He looks so amazed that he understands this human and what he’s asking. If I were his owner I’d be doing loads of groundwork and play with him, desensitisation, just hanging out, before ever trying to ride him.

[@cookiemobers5650]

"If you're calm, the horse is calm" EXACTLY the reason I haven't ridden my horse (12 yr old Swedish Warmblood) for almost a month, because I'm going through a stressful situation at home. Aragon reads me so well, that if I tried to ride, it wouldn't be pleasant for either of us. He's a warmblood, and he's on the hot side. I wish more people would think about this, each and every time they decide to ride.

[@slidenapps]

But then he said we wish that were true all the time period watch again from the beginning

[@rockjockchick]

I’ve just recently found you and this is my favorite video of you working so far. I like how you are very clear explaining what you do and how to read this horse. It’s always good to remind us all that they have personalities just like people and you have to take that all into account. :) I’m so glad the owners checked for pain issues first and asked for help instead of sending him to slaughter. ❤ I LOVE how your training is about connecting with the horses thinking and engaging their minds to shift the problems the horse is having.

[@wendyhawkins4452]

I like how honest he is with his reactions and Ryan takes such great concern for where he is at with himself. Interesting how weak his topline is for a quarter horse. His topline should be so much larger, look at his rear end it appears weak. He even has a U in his neck just above the withers...This is not a dig either but just wondering if his back or SI was injured in one of his flip overs. Just a thought. Pretty boy!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

I’m thinking he’s part thoroughbred

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Wendy how’s the weather over there

[@marilynbridges8697]

Wendy- The weak topline (good eye, by the way) is probably a result of chronic anxiety and tension manifested in the high head. It will probably improve as the horse's relaxation improves.

[@bonniewynn3743]

He’s as beautiful as they come!! Dang! I’d keep him just to look at and decorate my yard❤️

[@daphnewilson7966]

Followed Ray Hunt back in the day. "Rewarding the slightest try" sure rings a bell. In the bleachers, it was interesting to hear folks who couldn't see the "try." I could hear professionals telling their clients, it was hooey, because of course, they had to defend their coercive process. Horses, amazingly, will do their best. First is to observe, and some do not see. Good memories.

[@trenarichardson690]

I feel that someone has done something wrong with him it’s really sad. Hi5 to the lady that bought him anyway and I was trying so hard to make his life better.

[@DS-ky9dl]

This lovely guy actually did try to do what you asked a few times. It's like maybe he is trying to communicate with people but they did not understand what he was saying.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Agreed

[@linuxrant]

Amazing. the part with lowering his neck when you two build rapport just kept me sitting on the edge of my seat. It was hollywood level story there. 👏👏👏

[@laurenmaughan9293]

His eyes tell a huge story. The softening, slow blinking are almost another form of release for him

[@wesmccoy7061]

Wow what a change in this horse in a short time. His attention is on u where as at the start his mind was elsewhere. He is always checking in with u even when he is distracted. I love what you are doing. He needs more on the ground work for sure. My belief is to much was done to fast with this horse. Great job Ryan 👍👍

[@leaannsavage2231]

I loved watching him figure out that he wanted him to lower his head and as soon as he really understood the question he was happy to give the right answer...

[@benth162]

Well done. Apparently you are also a Horse Whisperer. I owned and rode horses for more than a few years. I am not into "Breaking" a horse, what I did was use a gentling technique as you are in this video. We used to call what we did, as "Sacking", in getting them used to having a saddle blanket put on their backs, and gently "driving" them teaching them how we want them to get used to a bridle or hackamore. Gentleness and love always seemed to work with my horses.

[@diannerussell3663]

LOVE this horse. he’s very very interested in you, very willing to learn. clever boy

[@stevenhenry4227]

Hello Dianne how’s the weather over there

[@davemi00]

I haven’t rode trail horses since High School. Great weekend date adventures. I’m enjoying these lessons and learning about horses.

[@sandywlaschin3878]

He is so respectful of the horse. I love this!

[@tanyagarcia3721]

that's a beautiful buckskin if you don't mind my saying. thank you for all the explanation to what you're doing as you're doing it so that we as viewers can see what you're doing in real time and the reason why for that as well.

[@GOGOSLIFE]

When I first got my horse, he reared up all the time. Apparently, he was abused by a previous owner. After working with him(we found out he wouldn't back up, he'd rear instead), we taught him with patience, and he turned into a very accommodating trail horse. I had a lot of injuries from him, but he was a good boy in the end. RIP Comanche!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

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[@dgrforfreedom61]

I am so happy that I found you. You're helping me understand horses more than all my other training. It's so great how you try to understand the horses thinking .😊

[@jarjar0653]

Ryan what you are doing is beautiful. I have no doubt you could make this lovely gelding safe again. You are awesome. Thanks for sharing

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thank you 😊

[@jeg5438]

Poor horse. He was just so frustrated that he couldnt communicate so he acted out. Glad he found somebody that knew how to talk to him.

[@anitatorres2210]

He is a gorgeous horse no wonder she still took him I love watching these videos🤗

[@gerrycoleman7290]

Beauty can be the horse's curse.

[@ziggystardust3060]

Excellent techniques! That horse has such depth to his character. What a gem! 💛

[@ReinertsenEquestrian]

the thought kept creeping into my mind throughout the video that he physically looks much younger than 9....I wonder what the vet/ dentist aged him at, he looks closer to 4 or 5. I also noticed he has some lateral movement in his gaits. I would wonder if I was training him if besides struggling with pressure he struggles with balance particularly with a rider on his back. beautiful horse though, and what an excellent video to start my day off with before heading to the barn. 🦄😎👍

[@Bootbitch]

I’m sure we’ll see him saddled in part 2.

[@quitetidy]

It's really cool seeing different cowboys working with horses with different methods. It's crazy how many different methods can come from an animal that learns by the release of pressure.

[@kimmacdonald89]

This horse seems very anxious. He is even hesitant walking behind you. Interesting

[@cathyweiss1814]

What do you mean by that Kim

[@acccardone7679]

Thank you for sharing this video. You have some great insights that I can see will be valuable for my horse that has had panic attacks since the day I got him. He tends to panic when pressure is applied to his pole. Chiropractic, massage, X-Rays, and other vet checks showed that his issues don't come from any of those areas. He just needs lots of attention and persistent, caring, psychologically appropriate handling to help him to hopefully get past his panic attacks... However, I would highly recommend you watch either Monty Robert's or John Lyons on Joining Up. This horse has clearly had some great foundation groundwork done in a round pen. He also shows clear signs that he feels that he thinks he has been regularly punished for doing what he has been told, so he's frustrated and is loosing trust in people. Your doing groundwork, round pen work, flag work, and rope work is helping him to regain trust and feel respected and appreciated. This is inspiring him to think more and more about trying to work with you. Nice work! Once you got him to stop refusing to acknowledge you, and actually start giving you more than 2% of his attention, then he started to actually try to work with you. The issues I see, on his end, are that he keeps refusing you by keeping his head turned away from you when you have him moving. On the other hand, your body language is such that your arm says go forward, while the direction of your body says don't go forward in THAT direction. That leaves this horse confused and trying to figure out where you want him to go. The only alternative for him is to face you and wait for you to ask him to come in. However, when you took your rope from between his legs you faced correctly and waved your rope in the clear body language signals (used by most horse trainers ever since they figured out that was how horses communicate with eachother) to drive him forward. This boy was actually paying close attention to you at that point, so he jumped to do what you asked. However, YOU didn't know you had clearly told him to get his butt moving NOW. So thank you for your insights and demonstrations on the rope work you did with this horse. That has been some useful information I look forward to applying.phycologically

[@AlmaVidaHorseRanch]

This horse has a really interesting eye. I've been reading tellington-jones opinion on facial features, and she notes that horses with a narrow eye like this tend to be slower to learn/have more difficulties in training. It's a bit woo woo but still really interesting to observe 🤷‍♀️

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

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[@misskat8548]

A bit woo woo? Wth does that mean?

[@FIGGY65]

@@misskat8548 . I believe like mystical, or hippy dippy. But I believe it 100%. This horse has a very sensitive look in his eyes…plus his ears seem especially reactive to me.

[@geminidream4347]

My cousin had a horse that was so gentle and loving. He would stand stock still while you put a saddle on and a bit in his mouth. While you got onto his back. However, the very second you asked him to go forward, he would limp so extreme you felt like you were going to over his neck. We got off, checked his foot in case it had something in it, tried again and got the same thing. Called in the vet, vet passed him, but when he wanted to see him walk, he did the same thing. The only conclusion was that the horse did not want to be ridden. My cousin thought he would fix this by taking him out on a long ride, figuring the horse would have to give, nope. Cousin comes home, takes the tack off, horse takes off full speed whining as if he was laughing. Never could break him of this so he just became a pasture buddy. LOL

[@marilynbridges8697]

He won!

[@Conny226]

I like that you have patience , that is very important

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Definitely important, thanks

[@doubled1425]

Not to be understood is a terrible thing, so I'm glad you're trying to figure out and understand the horse's problem. She really cares about her horse, and wants it to live a happy and healthy life. Glad she's wanting to keep it, and get it help.

[@amandagordon3018]

Very interesting horse. The way he holds himself reminds me a lot of my Standardbred ( ex pacer) who can get very worried on occasion. What I have learnt about my Standy is taking things slow and lots of regular training and more importantly “routine” allows him to relax. He also thrives with regular riding , at least 4-5 times per week. If I take him to a new location he takes quite a bit of time to relax, but if I take him to the same location a couple of times it becomes “routine” for him. Has this horse been checked for pain? Ulcers, kissing spine? I look forward to the next video. I love your technique of using the rope around his neck and under his chest to encourage dropping of the head.

[@aledakivett9255]

I'm subbing to make sure I watch the next chapter of this lovely gelding becoming a useful happy citizen. John Lyons laid my foundation, Chris Croft opened new doors, but the horses hepled me the most. I still weep for horses and their owners who never "got" what I tried to share w them.

[@Are_We_Having_Tea]

I noticed that he tenses up when your back is to him and you gestured. Any time he couldn’t see your face or front, he would stiffen, his head went up and he would “leave” until he was in a position to see your front when you were doing anything other than just walking. Maybe he needs to have humans where he can see them in order to decide what choices to make about what he is going to do. And of course having someone on his back would be the ultimate of “I can’t read your lips/face” when you are up there.

[@debt4717]

I saw that, too. Back in the 70's I had a 4-H gal bring an appy to me that was a problem under saddle. Turned out the horse didn't hear very well. I'm going to assume that this horse in the video had his hearing checked by a vet, but even then, a partial hearing loss is very, very hard to detect. Sometimes it's a mild hearing loss and they'll hear certain frequencies but not others. Besides seeming not to pay attention, another sign of hearing loss can be a problem with balance when carrying a rider. All of that may have absolutely nothing to do with this horse. It's just something to consider ;-). BTW...the appy turned out fine once we figured out what was going on. He mellowed into a great 'kid horse' and started many a young rider on their journey.

[@ameliasanmartin-farley]

We had a paint mare who would do that in the cross ties because she had a fear or needles when the vet came.. never in the saddle. Took her about 2 years to get over her fears. We just took baby steps with her.. ❤️

[@TheSweezer]

I wonder if the horse was checked out for any medical issues? I knew someone that had a horse and it was a rough ride. They tried to train and train and round pen but nothing helped. I was adament about it being a health issue but they refused.. Well until one day at the farm my VET was there and offered to do a quick check up for this horse. She found kissing spine and thats why you couldnt saddle it and ride it safely.. Not sayin this horse has issues but its where an owner should start first. Always rule that out.

[@HuntressAndHome]

The lady said at the beginning that she thought about that and had it all checked out and he came back clear. 👌

[@aaishahbong3824]

Love the exercise of getting him to lower his head...you have lots of experience and handle these beautiful animals well...thanks for sharing❤

[@likaangel8302]

Thank you for your expertise in horsemanship. I'm really wanting to see the out come of this.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Coming soon! Thanks

[@mimiterrell9697]

This was wonderful to spend time watching you today. Your level of compassion for the understanding is beautiful. I hope to find part 2 had is been added yet?

[@marthaerb9358]

I like how he’s sensitive, and I can see how he probably came unglued when his initial trainer wasn’t sensitive, causing him to run backwards and rear!

[@jesseblackburn8437]

Great training and explaining! Love your tutorials! Thanks for sharing!

[@sidilicious11]

I learned so much watching this. Thanks! Looking forward to part 2.

[@Renee-c3p]

He is beautiful! I loved she said she didn't want to get rid of him or worse that she cared for him. I love that these horses are getting a chance to be understood.

[@lavenderwyvern]

To my inexperienced eye, it seems like this horse just has no clue what he is supposed to do! He seems very confused- is this possibly the result of conflicting training or perhaps the owner has been sending him a lot of mixed signals? It does seem like he keeps checking in with you before trying to figure out what he is being asked to do. I just find it interesting that he has been essentially kept like this for several years, but seems to not even have the basics down! I am just curious about how this can come about in a horse's behavior so I can avoid it myself down the line.

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Yeah he definitely needs to be more clear on what pressure means and how to do come back down from Getting troubled

[@gerrycoleman7290]

It is the person that handles the horse the most (the owner) that is the problem. Not the horse.

[@laineyking3355]

Thx for educating these people that don't hav a clue/don't know any better, cuz they treat all horses the same, regardless of age , needs , breeds, warm or cold bloods/ probably don't know there's a difference. U are totally correct. They generally feed all their animals the same cuz its easier / & they dont know. THANK YOU SO MUCH ❣Hope they heed ur info !!!! If they dont, please keep reminding them thank U.❤bless ur heart ❣🐎

[@pilatesfitinbalance]

very smart horse there :) and smart trainer too ;) looking forward to Pt. 2 :)Thanks for sharing!

[@louisewelch5451]

I truly love what you are doing. My dad had horses when I was little and love them. But, at 15 mu brother took me to a horse riding place. The horse I got on (my brother ask for a gentle horse for Mr as it had been tears since I had been on a horse). When we took off my horse went a separate direction than my brother. His went left and mine went right, all the way to the end of the field and stopped. I tried to turn him around to go to the barn. He wouldn't move. I got off and started walking, reins in my hand. He followed, got back on and he stood still. Got off, walked and he walked, got on and he stopped. Finally just walked all the way to the barn with the hose walking beside me. Never figured that out.

[@Womanwithblackdog]

For this animal I think it would have been better to make the video and then add the chat as a voice over. He bonded fairly quickly to a calm, confident energy. He was never rewarded for that tho. He stood, looking confused while you were talking about people on their cell phones. And, eventually, as you continued to ignore him, he began to scan the area for a new leader and/or mountain lions.

[@lakota123max]

that horse looks alot older than 9 years old...i bet he is over 15 ...his coat looks a little long for where he lives...and he is in poor condition so prob cushings disease or heaves...that creates a very reactive horse...but u were wonderful with him..glad u trained him

[@anniewright6358]

I think this horse is going to take a long time to have him in the right head space. With nine years being handled by different people he must be very confused regarding what is required of him. I hope I can find subsequent videos on your treatment of him. It may be that the owner will run out of money before a satisfactory conclusion is reached. Personally I believe he needs to be taken over by a competent trainer such as Ryan, and worked on for months. He could be a good money making proposition in that way. Right at the moment he’s certainly not ready for the owner to start riding him again, it could undo all good that was done in that session. Somewhere in his past he’s been trained well, judging by the way he respects the rope, but in the seven years since he’s been of a trainable/rideable age, something has gone badly wrong.

[@turnoffmainstream]

Love how that horse looks at you.. he knows who is in charge! I ❤️ 🐎 🐴 Thanks for all the education on them. I don't own one, but maybe some day!

[@SheLikesSteel]

Awwww, my heart hurts for this horse.

[@julieevans2591]

I’ve always loved horses.When I was about 8 there what’s 2 beautiful,ul horses in the field behind my grandparents house.I began stealing super cubes so I could be friends with the black horse.He loved the cubes and carrots.Of course since I was on the fence I climbed on and was riding,no sadle ,bridle or reins. It was amazing and he’d come running when I whistled!Unfortunatle my younger sister was upset she couldn’t ride so she went in the house and complained.my mother and grandmother came out and there I was on the horse!I got in big trouble.According to the owner the horse was unridable.We went home to Ct. and the horse was gone the next summer.My mother insisted I could’ve been killed but iT was my best summer

[@kidstuff44555]

My jaw dropped when she said the horse reared up and flipped over while she was trialing him... and she went ahead and bought him anyway

[@gerrycoleman7290]

Not the horse's fault.

[@kidstuff44555]

@@gerrycoleman7290 If you buy a horse knowing he has a dangerous habit and years later he still has that habit... do you think maybe you shouldn't have bought him in the first place?

[@gerrycoleman7290]

@@kidstuff44555 Absolutely not. If I bought a horse that had a dangerous behavior and not long afterwards he still had that behavior..............I am at fault, not the horse.

[@kidstuff44555]

@@gerrycoleman7290 Of course you would be "at fault". And most importantly, you shouldn't have bought that horse. That's exactly my point. Don't buy dangerous horses unless you are very experienced, and flipping over is just about the most dangerous behavior a horse can have. Thankfully this owner is getting the horse some help, but the habit may be too ingrained for him to ever be a safe ride

[@gerrycoleman7290]

@@kidstuff44555 That behavior can be taken care of, no problem.