problems i have when using a sleeping bag liner.

[@jameshiggins.openworld]

this man is a legend up there with Paul Messner and Patrick Dickinson

[@timmusic7674]

Never used one but it sounds good to keeping your sleeping bag clean and maybe a few degrees warmer

[@waynedaly100]

They are nice to use as a main bag in the summer, and they keep your sweat and body oils from rotting you sleeping bag

[@flatbrokefrank6482]

I do not understand folks who sleep in the clothes they have bean wearing all day - I use a Marino wool base layer stored in a dry sack - Bag liners give you an extra few degrees of warmth so it depends how extreme your camping is - they could be a life saver or a bind - Take care Dan

[@Bungle2010]

If it's chucking it down with rain and you're using a bivi/bivi style or other small tent and you just want to get in and there's no room to change inside?

[@AshOutdoorsUK]

I used to use a liner, haven’t bothered for the last year for some reason. I’ve brought a quilt to try as I’m always getting tangled up in my sleeping bag 😂 thanks for sharing Dan Ash 🏕

[@kenmorrison1725]

Hate that they twist but love that they can help keep your bag cleaner and they add a little extra warmth. I stitched some loops into my sleeping bag at the foot box and the shoulders then stitched some cord to the bag liner so I could tie them together, it helped but need to do the same in the middle of the of both which will make it even better

[@suebrown3465]

I’ve never tried a liner but I would think they would twist during the night and be annoying. It would be nice if they designed the bag and liner by the same company with snaps (placed at the seams)

[@TheKidonthemountain]

Brilliant idea!

[@FlashPan73]

I used to get tangled up in mine but I carried on and now I buy the large military cotton type which for me are tri purpose. 1: help keeps that bag clean 2: winter time just an extra layer 3: during hot/summer time can use this along with a thin sleeping bag or even on its own just to help keep out that little bit of possible chill.

[@englishwoodsman]

Thankyou for watching

[@DianneFincham]

Thank you great video. I've never used a liner, but I'm going to give one a try when we go camping this August/Sept, and washing the sleeping bags is not easy. I'm looking into different ways to attach the liners so they don't twist around. So far I have most of the liner secured, its just the opening for the top half that I'm still working on.

[@andyroid2555]

Camped a lot of times in all conditions and cant imagine getting in a sleeping bag dressed. Always found it better to lose the layers before bed and have em ready to go on when you get out of the bag. (I have got dressed in a sleeping bag, but never got in a sleeping bag dressed)

[@outdoorsurvival7730]

I occasionally put my sleeping mat/pad in one to add a little more thermal value to them and it also protects the sleep pad too

[@dougdixonhull]

I got the oex Furnace +8 liner. Typically I haven't camped since so haven't used it. My thinking was if I can add two or three degrees on my summer bag (OEX Fathom 200) I could maybe get away with using it as a three season. I will be testing that theory this spring. Great video, Dan.

[@peesua]

I use a Sea to Summit Reactor Thermalite which has a generous room inside and is so warm that I don't need a sleeping bag in warm summer weather.

[@metalbearuk]

Same here, it's been a godsend, definitely seems to add a few degrees of warmth to a bag. For the negligible weight of it, I always take it with me.

[@richbuilds_com]

I use them mainly in my expensive down bags to keep them clean. Cleaning a liner bag is *way* easier than a down bag (especially on the trail). I don't bother in my cheaper fibre bags that I don't hike with. I've seen absolutely no noticeable temperature differences with a liner.

[@RaynarNslR]

When I was young mum sewed up a sheet for a liner. This was because washing a sleeping bag ruined it! I going to get out this year and have been looking at liners, again just to keep the bag clean. ATB stay safe👍🦊

[@TimelordUK]

Mum made me a sheet one too!

[@fleotusbing]

This video is very timely, as I've been pondering buying a liner. I'm new to your channel and enjoying it very much....thanks!

[@richardcrookes6496]

Me too bud. Fantastic video

[@englishwoodsman]

Hi mate thankyou for watching

[@DannyMacDJ]

I would say they are more for down sleeping bags to just keep them clean.

[@andrewcrofts531]

I use a fleece one too Dan. Gives a couple of extra degrees on a cold night. I also use a mat cover with a pillow pocket. Saves your pillow sliding out during the night..... Cheers.

[@hmoorby]

I've never used one Dan. I prefer to use my bag as it is. If I need more warmth I use my bivvy bag. Interesting video mate. Take care.

[@englishwoodsman]

Thankyou for watching

[@middleagedgamer9630]

Got a silk one for my rab 900. Never used one before this. Honestly, I've found it great. Also, the less often I have to wash my bag the better.

[@dioncrouch3897]

I use a cotton sleeping bag liner as a cover for my airbed. It stops the bed from moving and keeps me from getting stuck with sweat

[@markhampshirewildcamperand8731]

I use my sleeping bag liner as a bivvy bag . I just water proof it . I found it a lot better .

[@vespasian266]

I have two silk ones, take em on every trip.. trouble is I never end up usin em. I think a better option is to take a sleeping bag and a quilt as an extra precaution rather than a liner. heres why, because the quilt can double up as a summer sleep system and an added winter warmer.

[@kennethcarter5720]

Like them. Undone stitching 3/4 way down. Over locked down edges to stop silk fraying. Self adhesive Velcro tabs from Amazon. Velcroed in place. Unzip bag liner goes with it. Easy getting in or out. Liner stays put. Just pull out wash and put back in no problem using it. Easy to pee as well 🔥

[@englishwoodsman]

Nice idea thankyou

[@fegman]

Hiya pal, I have got the OEX fleecy type liner, and use it regular in winter, mainly as it gives you an extra slight degree of warmth, but mainly to protect my bag. What I have noticed is it is a nightmare to get back into it's stuffsack lol. Take care and all the best. Nick

[@johnround1907]

Never used one but I have just purchased one to give it a try. Father in law bout a cheap one cut it down the length and attached it to the inside of his bag with Velcro he rates it this way as he reckons it doesn’t twist about so I’m going to give it a try

[@TimelordUK]

I've used one my mum made me out of a bed sheet! Not sure if it gives me extra heat but for me it was more about keeping my sleeping bag clean so I don't have to wash it. Could you do a video where you showcase really cheap bargain versions of kit that you actually would use yourself and think is really good, and a showcase of more pricey items that you would definitely recommend and use even though cheaper versions might be available

[@gogsalba4573]

They are useful in Spring when it snows in Scotland and as useful in Autumn when it gets colder..... coime to think of it... Thay are also useful in summer when it snows or gets colder.....

[@Morio412]

I use a liner but in conjunction with my down quilt i hate mummy bags can't get comfy in them so i use a liner to give me a layer between my sleep mat and me since my sleep mat is cheap 18 quid one. my quilt was made by my mother and i am toasty warm in the depths of winter in it lofts up by 3+ inches but packs down to near nothing in my pack. but yeah a liner for me is basically used as a sheet to give me a barrier between my sleep mat (and cheap highlander foil mat thing) and myself.

[@englishwoodsman]

Thank you for your comment

[@robertfuller8445]

I don't always use one but I have a Rab silk liner .It doesn't snag on the sleeping bag fabric so it moves with you. I think it gives more life to your down bag too.

[@thefucrew9865]

I have only used them, maybe, a handful of times, and have always found them to be constricting for me. So, I have stopped using them. I used to go to sleep in sleeping bags, while in the military, with my boots on...for obvious reasons...and tried them there. Once in the civilian sector, I tried them again, to get a slightly higher temp in the bags, but, didn't really feel a difference. I decided not to have an extra bit of kit to was was worth the effort. I have stuck to "space blankets' instead...whether completely opened up to cover my whole body, or just folded in half for my legs and feet (where I can leave them inside the sleeping bag, and inexpensively replace them if they get ripped/etc.) The "Casualty Blanket" that I first got when I first got into the Infantry...and was subsequently "lost"...is now being used, along with part of an old military sleeping mat, to keep the lower part of my dog's raised bed warm from drafts, and capable of reflecting his own body heat towards him...along with an old civilian sleeping bag on top.

[@englishwoodsman]

Wow great comments mate 👍 👏

[@thefucrew9865]

@@englishwoodsman, just observations, Brother.

[@KuntryRD]

I have had a sleeping bag liner for years. I have used it once as a liner. I was tangled up in it all night. I currently use it as a sleeping pad cover for those trips that I have the dog with me; so far, it has kept her claws from putting a hole in the pad. It seems like a workable idea for keeping a bag clean and adding a few degrees of warmth, but for me, it is too much trouble.

[@davidjackson8829]

Just bought the OEX Furnace Liner. Sometimes my Spring Summer bag is not enough on cooler nights. My Autumn winter is too much. It would give me options. Light enough to carry even if I didn't use it, a compromise without buying a third bag.

[@georgemills2302]

I pretty much always use one as I tend to use a 2 season sleeping bag to save space / weight.

[@michaelpepper7230]

I have 2 Sea to Summit one with no zip just a bag and sometimes use both together instead of a sleeping bag. Nice, warm, light and never have a problem. I use my sleeping bag like a quilt though.

[@jake-gd8rb]

Hello I have a sleeping bag that is pretty old but still works great the problem is the lining is getting more and more worn and tears all the time and was wondering if you could advise on how to replace the original lining with a new liner permanently like a kind of glue or sown in or maybe velcro.anyhow I cant be the only one with this problem and hopefully someone will have an answer...thanks for your time

[@clifflanderwalkitoff7650]

Yes them in the army to keep the bag clean, never noticed if there was any warmth advantage? I have the new oex one says +8 on it but I don’t think that right .

[@donaldwalter1317]

I have a cotton rectangular mummy shape linear and a polyester mummy shape one. The cotton one adds a small amount additional warmth in a bag while the polyester i never felt any warmer. They are also useful in hostels to use as an outside cover on a bag in case you find some hostels not very clean!

[@MetallicrealitE]

Ive not used one but I did make myself a "camping nightie" from an old double silky sheet a couple of years ago, it keeps my sleeping bag "cleaner" but I can also get away with wearing it outside the sleeping bag if I have to get up. I think if I felt the need for a proper liner I would just wear warmer night clothes.

[@stevescott245]

The only liner I use is a 58 pattern army sleeping bag liner in the said sleeping bag. As it clips in everywhere so doesn't move at all

[@jeffharvey6288]

Bought one just before Christmas but not been able to use it due to lockdown. However I've also wondered whether I'd end up strangling myself in it as I don't keep still at night..😖

[@englishwoodsman]

Your the same as me mate 😅😅

[@sergeram1436]

Always carried a sleeping bag liner every time I've had my sleeping bag, that probably explains why my feather and down sleeping is in great condition after more than 30 years of use

[@richardcrookes6496]

I've been pondering weather to get one or not brilliant video bud. I take it not very good for good extra thermal value.

[@lewisfoster9514]

Wouldn't camp without one. I've got the furnace and a silk one. The silk was worth it. Great for of your camping a few nights easy to clean and super soft. Preserves the bag as you said and great for things like hostels and hot countries. I've slept in hot countries just in a liner. Well worth the pack size and weight. If it was just a one nighter and my bag was warm enough. Unless I was wearing my outdoors clothes like you said o wouldn't use a liner

[@englishwoodsman]

Thank you for watching

[@lewisfoster9514]

@@englishwoodsman great videos as always Dan ,like the honesty and not beating about the bush !!

[@PokerMuppet]

does that mean that the Furnace 8+ liner wasn't worth it?

[@lewisfoster9514]

Furnace was worth it but if I need the extra temp it provides over a bag and a silk liner it feels like I'm using the wrong rated sleeping bag. But if you've a cooler bag afbdont mind the slightlier bigger packsize of the furnace it's worth it. All I know is I always end up packing a slightly warmer bag and talking my silk liner as it's more comfortable next to skin

[@PokerMuppet]

@@lewisfoster9514 thanks for the reply and you make an interesting point. I am a very cold sleeper and I am currently looking at the OEX Leviathan 900 (£175) but I'm also looking at extra options should I feel a little cold, especially as it seems that anything warmer is roughly double that price or more! The silk is an option due to it's smaller pack size (weight isn't an issue as I camp when touring on a motorcycle so size matters most). Comfort doesn't really come in to it as I would be wearing thermals if I was that cold anyway. I'll probably try the silk liner first and take it from there. Thanks again.

[@petermccarthy4822]

Interesting video, never used them but I bought the sea to summit reactor liner before Christmas that I haven't had a chance to try out yet cos of lockdown. Main reason I bought it was to add some degrees to my mountain warehouse 3 season bag. I planned to camp out a lot this winter and I'm now thinking it'll be next winter by the time I get to try it.

[@duncanmcdowall90]

I like the liner I have ,its a fleece one like yours. But I only use it in winter.

[@steveb1972]

Yes I use liners, except for hot weather camping. I hate washing sleeping bags, so having that to do less often is a blessing! I use Cotten or silk. I’m a sensitive soul! Lol

[@heymrguitarman7637]

A simple light cotton one is all you need to add serious warmth to a sleeping bag. But I do agree they can twist and he annoying. I like to pack light which means a less than ideal sleeping bag in cold temperatures, so a liner adds an extra season to it.

[@lairdsky4604]

Bought an army issue arctic bag liner for my arctic army sleeping bag, complete mystery as to how it would attach as all the fittings seem wrong, however I can see the plus side for a bit of extra insulation and keeping the sleeping bag clean especially if your sleeping in your day clothes. I may have to mod my liner for the arctic bag.....the irony 🤣

[@chrisandsamlivingthedream]

I’ve had the OEX furnace 8 liner for Christmas .. look forward to using .. I’m planning on using it in summer with my snugpak jungle bag .. cheers Chris & Sam

[@mow-zr6ni]

Lover, extra warm and keeping down bags clean as harder to clean than synthetic

[@jimbrewer2730]

Just bought the OEX furnace not used it yet though will let you know the outcome after my first wild camp 👍 keep the videos coming pal really enjoyable and getting us through lockdown!

[@carlh4747]

I see them having two main uses, easier to clean than a kip bag and may add a few degrees of extra warmth. I have been known to use just the liner in the hottest months and silk is preferable to cotton.

[@quebecpatriot1874]

3 yrs old uh...YT and recommendations.....oh well. I own several sleeping bags and liners and match them against the temps and conditions I`ll be camping in. Nothing fancy. I think the most expensive sleeping bag I have was $120 can. Then you have your Tyvek covers if you do it in a forest by a river and its really foggy and always chill

[@marktonner8882]

I like oex gear a lot, i use the roam 200 all year round, mostly in my hammock with the dd underblanket. I dont zip the bag up, i use it like a top quilt. Much less faffing about to in and out

[@terrypatterson1481]

Going to try a liner this spring if I can get out - let you know if I like it or not.

[@anhatur]

I got some cheap cotton ones years ago and quickly learned to hate them. I’d rather use some kind of pajamas. Usually just woollen underwear and socks (and keeping them relatively clean) but I really wish I had silk pajamas in the hot summer.

[@tommo9757]

Only used one once. Ended up wrapped up tighter than Tutankhamun. A more expensive one might help but I would avoid another cheap one like the plague

[@turtlewolfpack6061]

I have a few myself, the Canadian Army one with the complete sleep system, a fleece civilian (Coleman) one that zips open like a blanket, which works well with my envelope bags, and the new British Army one with the complete sleep system. The British one I despise the velcro, it always gets caught on the bag and causes issues but personally I don't mind liners myself.

[@beatbasher]

I've tried a couple including a silk one which many people swear by but just don't get on with them I move about so much I pulled the silk one apart in my sleep. Not a lot of benefit other than keeping the down bag clean.

[@jmcd69]

Never tried one but looks alright . 👍👍👍

[@thecolofthewild]

Hi Dan, Have you ever used the Furnace Liner on it's own without a sleeping bag? Just thinking even my summer bag would be unbearable in the current heat?

[@randomhato]

I usually put the fleece ones over the bag, stops them moving about while you sleep. Not used the other types.

[@bongjovi4168]

I use mine to stop the sleeping bag getting dirty. If spending a few quid on a liner, extends the life of a sleeping bag by years, it makes sense to me if you're using higher end gear that's designed to last.

[@oddmanout98]

I’ve never used one. I like the theory but as you say, think they could be more annoying than useful?

[@Micky-74-v6f]

Thanks for this vid mate, I've never tried a liner but was thinking about making one from a sheet. I've not even tried winter Hammock camping yet due to lockdown, but I bought a snugpak 4 season bag, and it was pricey, so a liner may be a good idea to protect it

[@andyclarke7265]

I have never liked them for camping cos as you they are too restrictive but good video

[@englishwoodsman]

Thankyou for watching

[@gilljo1]

They are not for me but obviously they have their uses. Thanks and stay safe.

[@waynesworld4616]

Never used personally and really thinking going to quilts this year

[@oo7naughtyusmaximus933]

I was lucky enough to travel around the world, this was back in 2005. One of the bbest things i bought, was a silk sleeping bag liner. I travelled to Thailand....Malaysia....Singapore...Australia New Zealand....Samoa. In most cases i used the liner on its own. It would still be one of the first things in my rucksack.

[@LaconianConcepts]

Hey Dan, I love them. Especially if you do the hammock cocoon, having a nice liner as a thin sleeping bag to cuddle inside it is amazing. I’m in the market for the Snugpak TS1 and I’m going to modify it with a zipper, because I agree with your thoughts on that. Cheers mate!

[@neiladcock2758]

You've just turned me off liners so I'm hoping that the OEX fathom 400 that's arriving tomorrow that I got because of your review is as good as you say it is haha great show mate!

[@kentneil7100]

yes....... they save money in the long run and are cheap to replace rather than a sleeping bag......

[@joekelly9369]

I have two thermalite , extreme and extreme + , i thought they were crap untill it was -8° im a thermarest -18 bag , i put the two liners together and down booties on , there was a difference i slept well ,two nights into my sutherland camp ,still slept well , next day my pal in ullapool said it was minus -18 last night , i slept like a log ,

[@mdoutdoors3282]

Wots your best bush stove

[@GAR85120514]

I found transitioning from old rectangular bags to mummy style difficult enough. I sleep way too restless for liners. Cheers.

[@Curiosityuk]

I bought one but haven’t had chance to use it yet, but I only bought it to keep my g clean inside.

[@chrisgibson2328]

Why is everyone getting the liners twisted. What are you doing ? 🤔 What are the 3 liners made of ? Very vague mate.

[@jim-bob-outdoors]

I bloody hate them. I move about a lot in the night and always end up with my legs tied together. Great for keeping the bag clean, but if I am muddy I prefer to just take my outer layer off. Just cant sleep with a liner.

[@englishwoodsman]

Thankyou for watching jim bob

[@wvo2m]

I always felt that SB liners we're just the outdoor companies thinking up something that we don't really need just so they can sell us more stuff. A bit like toothbrush companies trying to get you to brush your tongue.

[@philhaha4243]

Have got one but never used it it’s a little small for my liking...⛺️

[@Emma-Rick-Gibbs]

Never used one myself. But if it works for you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@englishwoodsman]

I am 50/50 mate

[@tim49013]

I bought one to use in my gortex. Bivi bag in the warmer months

[@EdwardHurst2323]

Just use a liner too keep your bag clean ! If you can go for a silk Sea to summit there top

[@antonybuckley2645]

Got the oex thin one to go into an oex 400 fathom .find it restricting and twists up

[@ryansessford8250]

I find it raps round my feet so I started putting it on the outside of my sleeping bag and that stopped the problem and still give me the warmth

[@AggyGoesOutdoors]

Never had a problem with liners, I get in it, sleep, wake-up, repeat.

[@strudythescoutadventures2390]

Only used a liner twice not a fan as found it out side my bag both times not sure how that happened.

[@jodyjohnstone3520]

Always use mine, just to keep the oils or sweat from dirtying my bag more than anything.

[@patrickevans8940]

Personally Dan I hate the things Prefer to use bivi bag or a Fleece onesie

[@clivenewton7609]

Hi Dan thought I would give you the benefit of my huge experience 😂 Unless you sleep without moving you will just about always get tangled up in them! What I did with mine was to get the misses to sew in 4 tie tags, 2 at the foot end and 2 at shoulders, sorted the problem just about, although in all honesty it was the best of a bad job! I think the theory behind the whole liner thing is to give you probably an extra 1/2-1 season extra warmth and to help keep down bags cleaner for longer. Hope that helps, regards Clive from deepest Dorset 👍

[@TheSewoodsman]

I hate them! I only own one and never really use it 🤔 But I might start too this summer .....

[@thedetectorist2419]

i bought a silk one its awsome

[@olliereader5842]

I don’t dislike them but I sleep warm anyway so even in winter I get too warm in a 4 season bag

[@Gator-357]

Who uses a sleeping bag liner? Nobody I know. I stuff my sleeping bag into the outer shell of the US Army 3 piece sleep system. It's waterproof and prvides an extra layer of wind and cold blocking. That inside my hammock or tent and I'm just fine even in zero °F and below temps, high winds and rain or snow. With the outer shell I can stay warm and dry even out in the open.

[@martindalby3941]

I tried one once and didn't get along with it.

[@danieltantram82]

Oex jackle?

[@SweeneyTTodd]

Not for me , never used one so i don't miss one

[@ashmaybe9634]

I'd rather take thermals to sleep in than risk waking up at 3am, half-choked & wrapped in a nghtmare of a camping-straight-jacket. Maybe if you sleep like dracula you can make them work.

[@davidbrown8947]

Got a Snugpak liner, use it as a sleeping bag when it's hot. More place for beer🍺