Timbaland Doesn't Like My Beats...

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Ocean

Күн бұрын

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@muzibeats1010 Жыл бұрын

I like the fact that he didn’t hold back and he told you what to improve and how you can improve. Overall great video!

@Woodsaras Жыл бұрын

The fk does Timbaland know, lol.

@akaashchandra3088 Жыл бұрын

@@Woodsaras you're kidding right

@prod.7aco194 Жыл бұрын

@@Woodsaras ??? Have you even heard of the dude

@Woodsaras Жыл бұрын

@@akaashchandra3088 I'm not. His notes were abstract, subjective trash with no depth. Just because someone was successful at some point in time it sure dont mean they are a proper expert.

@Woodsaras Жыл бұрын

@@prod.7aco194 yes, obviously

@LarryAsberryJr Жыл бұрын

I like the willingness for Timbo to give back to a young producer like yourself. You humbly accepted his feedback and put it out there for the whole world to see. . It shows you seek growth on a level that keeps you grounded. Many blessings to you sir!

@bgallagrr Жыл бұрын

He paid money for that feedback. Beat club ain't free.

@VX-cy4du Жыл бұрын

He's not "giving back" anything, but yes, feedback is important.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@ksager123 7 ай бұрын

@@DrGuy118exactly

@ChrisBabs32 Жыл бұрын

Oceans got wayyy better beats than what he displayed here

@blessdatrack4masssoundprod773 Жыл бұрын

Wat I said

@prodbysteve8783 Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@TherealSIRenity Жыл бұрын

Facts tho

@Haku_records Жыл бұрын

You are only as good as your worst beat.

@imgioni Жыл бұрын

@@Haku_records i like this

@DrZhark Жыл бұрын

Inspiring how you show this basically unedited, its lowkey putting yourself up vulnearble and i think that's powerful.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@eskaylation Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 low can always learn from mid...

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@eskaylation I'm sorry, but "your taste is trash" is not a constructive review... If you believe in talking to your students like this, you are well below mid.

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!

@MarcShake Жыл бұрын

For all who think Timbaland is "rude" - he isn't. Music producers talk to each other like that. That's perfectly normal.

@FrederickBeats Ай бұрын

@@thomsonhomson Exactly

@jonah1976 Ай бұрын

To create the music for the Nelly Furtado song "Do It", racist idiot Timbaland (real name Timothy Zachery Mosley) stole a melody composed by Janne Suni from the Amiga demo community and when confronted laughed and said he just sampled a beat from a videogame, but it wasn't a videogame and it was more than just a sample. That's the very definition of rude. How much do you really know about his background? Nothing, actually. And this is what you simp for?

@Kadenxe Жыл бұрын

honestly felt like you have better beats than what you showed him

@bluequest22 Жыл бұрын

Bruh 👀

@koalamusik Жыл бұрын

word

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@crazyace88 Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 trash? Lol um ok.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@crazyace88 Without browsing wikipedia, or youtube, name one hot T*m song that was released since the the iphone 1 came out.

@jacksp8de Жыл бұрын

Wow he was right on and straightforward and honest. Thats how you get someone better at their craft though. Can’t sugarcoat anything. You just have to be able to humble yourself and really take it in and see if the advice resonates. If it does make the corrections and keep pushing.

@beataddict5475 Жыл бұрын

Its so crazy because its always the beats we actually love that when we let people hear them they usually dont like or pick them. They usually pick the ones we think are duds. It always happens that way.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@goingglobalmusicgroup2555 Жыл бұрын

That's why the beats you don't like should be the ones you pay attention to as beat makers. My inhouse producer always says so many artist didn't pick the beat I chose. I told him all artist don't hear the same thing fam. Just be creative and don't get caught in making what every else is making. If it feels good it is good on some James Brown!

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@eliv.o7105 Жыл бұрын

It those beats were shit…I wonder if he did that on purpose…Tim was being nice here

@nicholasjames5471 Жыл бұрын

Some producers produce to impress other producers, others make beats for rappers. I think most of the producers on KZbin fall into the first category.

@prodpas Жыл бұрын

The moments where Timbaland just mumbles ocean's melodies with his mouth are just gold

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@viggofagerstrom9262 Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 He literally produced Amari by J cole in 2 minutes

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@IMaBeastDoWatDEn Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 he’s old now but he’s still a goat and knows a lot about music and can offer info

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@IMaBeastDoWatDEn I'm not here to bash T*m... To me, he is literally my #1 hip hop producer. ... still though, if your daughters dance teacher were to call your daughters lucky leotard ugly, would you allow that to happen without any clap back just because she has GOAT status in her field?

@JensenBrown Жыл бұрын

Having the ability to have Timbaland critique your work regardless of whether he messing with it or not is a big achievement. Theres lessons for everyone in this video too! appreciate you sharing your journey with us every time 🙏

@jonah1976 Ай бұрын

Except, it's Timbascam. You do know about the many times he's stolen not only beats, but entire melodies form other composers? Of course you don't! You aren't expected to be educated! Steal what can be stolen, that's the way to be!

@marchianoloen1568 2 ай бұрын

Everyone: "Superstars are arrogant" Timbo: "I thank you for allowing me to coach you" Love this dude.

@jonah1976 Ай бұрын

He knows the camera is on him. When he was stealing beats from the Amiga demo scene and insulting them did you also love him? Oh, wait, you didn't know about that becasue you never bothered to learn more about him than what you saw on KZbin.

@coryhill6575 Жыл бұрын

Imagine getting in front of Timbaland and playing this out of all your beats

@ItsDhunt 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@bc8715 Ай бұрын

Bro, I’m not tryna hate but these beats just had nothing special about them at all. Very generic, like he said.

@hibitsounds9755 Ай бұрын

@@bc8715exactly my thoughts

@prodbypounce Жыл бұрын

Timbaland is also one of my fav producers so this is legendary!

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@prodbypounce Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 But this guy has been in the game longer than Ocean has been so if anyone should be taking advice from anyone it’s Timbaland

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@prodbypounce Metro Boomin is DEFINITELY a more accomplished producer than T*m, post Nelly Furtado, and he is probably a few years younger than Ocean... So if Metro says "I like that orchestral, cinematic trap" who are you going to listen to?

@prodbypounce Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 or even Nick Mira he hasn’t been in the game long and he has multi platinum hits

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@prodbypounce The whole session seemed judgmental... It was like a g*y person saying "If you like straight people, you are trash." or a straight person saying "If you like g*y people, you are trash... Ask the producer questions... How did you come to this conclusion? What is this beat being used for? and then say "If you want to produce for x, you might want to make it less cinematic. If you want to produce for y, it's perfect how it is." He basically called his daw "weird" and inferior. What kind of nerdy sh*t did we just watch?

@DerekGudmundson Жыл бұрын

The fact you posted this made me respect you even more bro, humbling.

@ripabeats2005 Жыл бұрын

Ocean gonna reach even greater heights than he has reached now. From going to his tiny studio in Manchester in 2020 to where he is at now, and where his new studio is. He is unstoppable, he will always keep pushing and thats what inspires us as your audience to keep pushing and grinding too. Thanks Ocean!

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@Thetruth66399 Ай бұрын

Those were the most gentle roastings ive ever seen a producer give in my life

@jaycole1900 Жыл бұрын

Im so surprised with your beats selection. You've created WAY BETTER beats throughout the years. Im confused

@celesongo Жыл бұрын

If you've made beats for 8 years then you're at the point where every beat you make has to be somewhat "good" = It shouldn't really matter what beats you play. Also I think its better to showcase your "generic" beats because thats what you're really making/selling most of the time. Ofc you might have a really good beat once in a while but showcasing them here wouldn't really help to improve Ocean if he wants to actually increase sales and stuff

@Sonaurea Жыл бұрын

Thats a good point

@jazz9236 Жыл бұрын

What’s the point for timb to come on just to say his beats is fire..the point of playing wack beats is for promotion

@moog5260 Жыл бұрын

makes more sense to play something he can criticise the audience can benefit more.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@houseoflatin Жыл бұрын

extremely useful feedback i must say. you can hear each of the suggestions/problems he pinpointed. and sure, you can agree or disagree but the main point is to use his ability to dissect and hear the complete track and its parts in other contexts in his head, instantaneously. It forces you to really think of what you are doing.

@salawuoluwasegun3754 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been in this type of situation before. You tend to present your worst beats when the time comes to present something to the pros in the industries. And also one thing, we producers, the beat we like is usually the worst of all the beats we do. I don’t know why it’s always like that. The beat I don’t love among my beats and music in general is what people around me tend to move their body to. I totally understand what ocean was facing at this point

@quincg1288 2 ай бұрын

Bad ratio though ALL of the beats are wack. How can you play 5 duds? Tells me there's not much musical awareness here.

@moxemusic Жыл бұрын

Yoo HUGE respect to you for sharing this with your community! I really appreciate that a lot cause normally you only see the "perfect" world of producers who are always winning etc. But this shows that in reality even if you are as good as Ocean you still have to take some failure to develop as an artist. Thanks! You helped me a lot with this video!

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@OfficialFetzTV Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 excuse me??

@christianowusu1213 Жыл бұрын

Hey man, props to ocean for putting himself out there like that. There's a fine line between constructive criticism and completely deteriorating somebody's confidence in perfecting their craft. Timbaland is one of the best to ever do it and this criticism is more valuable than any piece of equipment money can buy. Keep pushing Brotha!!!

@AttamanKing Жыл бұрын

Congrats bro, you did put yourself on the fya and aint get burned!!! this situation is the best way to improve, like be advised by someone like Timbo is dope, for sure you gonna grow alot after it!!!

@Sasuke99767 Жыл бұрын

That face of Ocean after getting disrespect on every beat😂😂.

@mrtnm121 Жыл бұрын

It's called criticism.

@endless1247 Жыл бұрын

@@mrtnm121 ngl i think hes trying to force criticism

@simpiderman Жыл бұрын

At the end of the day I learnt something

@Usenabt Жыл бұрын

@@endless1247 🥴 his criticism was 100%, I’m tryna think why he’d play these beats to Timbaland

@mnginsr Жыл бұрын

He just gives his opinion

@RelicLabzEntertainment Жыл бұрын

Nahh that last beat was fire no cap, keep this shi up dawgie

@bz.productions Жыл бұрын

Honesty is key, I like that he's telling you what you don't want to hear, it's the best way forward! 🌟💜📈

@Allin-authentic Жыл бұрын

Bro this is crazy that we usually hear better beats from you than what you presented to Timbo but hey having those feedbacks from a such legend is sick. This is one step forward to becoming a greater producer than you already are. & this gives us the opportunity to hear what we can do to improve our production, like i already said in the pass, i wish to collab with you one day. Keep up the good work 🤙🏾

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@Jamusictv Жыл бұрын

I think Tim was pretty spot on. He has a seasoned ear of over three decades. And even though the music scene has past his sound by and modern music sounds much different then his era. He still has a great ear. It takes a lot of guts to post a video like this. Big up to you.

@prod.7aco194 Жыл бұрын

NAH DAWG THATS LEGENDARY THIS IS SO COOL Edit: just finished the video and damn what I would give to be able to have him coach me too that sounds really fun and also super informative

@RareTechniques Жыл бұрын

because everything he says is str8 FAX lol, living legend

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@prod.7aco194 Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 you’re acting like I’m boutta take his word as completely law with no questions.. you can’t be surprised that I would want to take the opinion of one of the most influential and decorated producers of all time into account tho so yeah no shit I’m gonna take his advice seriously 😂

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@prod.7aco194 Decorated 20 years ago... What have you done for me lately except shoot down some amazing ideas?

@prod.7aco194 Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 bruh I don’t even know you you were the one who came into my comment being all hostile calling tim trash and even censoring his name like ????

@davidtonga5678 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this Ocean…it shows you got grit and humility to ALWAYS improve…gives the younger generation something to look forward to…thank you!!!

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@808Dustte Жыл бұрын

he just didnt tell you something that you wanna hear but something you HAVE TO hear. That was cool and it showed that he really want to help you

@NathanNiederer Жыл бұрын

I love how involved Timbaland is with the underground. He truly out here to help up and coming artists. He’s always gone be one of my favourites

@Moe-of6xn 2 ай бұрын

This ain't the underground, this is KZbin.

@mikec538 Жыл бұрын

Respect to you Ocean for letting Timbo hear your beats. That’s how you get better man. Wish you nothing but success in 2023.

@jeromefraser7322 Жыл бұрын

Damn, I felt nervous for you as you was playing him your beats. It must have felt like waiting for approval from your parents or something. Great vid tho

@ashwinniamat8560 Жыл бұрын

Why. He just a dude. They all are lmao.

@n0follow Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinniamat8560 nope, for a producer Timbaland's opinion is worth more than just some dude's that's like a bball player looking up to lebron and you saying he's just some guy

@simpiderman Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinniamat8560 Timbaland is what we all want to become. He is inspiration. Whenever I feel down, I listen to his podcasts. He inspired to many artists. His timbaland course made what I'm today. (That course was lit only for his interview).

@ashwinniamat8560 Жыл бұрын

@@simpiderman That's okay. But if you would ask timba, should you idolize of become unique. Guess what my man's gonna say. Ashwin is right. So that's what im referring to. To many clones out here.

@simpiderman Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinniamat8560 taking inspiration and copying them is different thing

@Dane_Riazer Жыл бұрын

I remember when I sent my first beat to Timbo, he's being honest. and as much as we want to be creative and use what ever sound we want to use; sometimes we walk all over the idea that maybe the sound doesn't fit or the melody. When I hear "the melody doesn't fit, the first thing I think of is" the track is lacking syncopation. Keep rockin 🙌🏾

@Thepiphxny Жыл бұрын

Bruh this is legendary, Simon is gonna be pissed😂,that’s his fav producer

@Ast3rixMusic Жыл бұрын

Wow man he really put things in perspective. Everybody need to work things out. Sometimes it hurts to hear the truth, but if you put that behind yourself and really dig in and start experimenting it will change everything you do. I am going through this same thing and have been for a few years. I had to rework my melodies and drums. I use Ableton and the Akai Force to produce. So I had to rethink my workflow a little and come up with a smoother way for me to make less generic sounding stuff. It's not perfect, but I'm getting closer to finding my sound.

@chiqo42 Жыл бұрын

i catch some of the beatclub streams from time to time and tim is very selective. good that he actually had a conversation and gave you some direction instead of just dismissing it like some of the things that get played for him.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@supermatt-99 Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 he produces some of the songs out there today but is behind the scenes, we only really hear about it if people start talking about it, e.g. when he made J Cole's "amari" beat live on twitch (and deleted it because it wasn't good enough for tim) and j cole contacted him for it and he had to remake it, we don't really hear much about what he does, but there's also a video of him with billie eilish and his producers playing some beats for her, so who knows what he does behind the scenes

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@supermatt-99 I really do not take offense or question T*m's ability to make a beat... I question his ability to handle his student with respect and to have an open mind.

@dialac1 10 ай бұрын

I love how he gave honest criticism. It’s funny how some people hate on FL studio but here you have a Grammy winning producer recommending FL Studio

@wildbird78 Жыл бұрын

Honestly keep doing you. The artists will come to you. Not all beats need to be nor should be Timbaland approved.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@qtippz Жыл бұрын

Yeah those beats really don't need his approval. I've never really been a big Timbo fan especially in his later years. To me he's become that old guy in the room stuck on old ways that thinks they still got it or know what they're talking about. Times have changed and styles have also. Ocean could definitely find someone on any of those beats.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@qtippz Somebody give this man a Grammy for this comment... Plus, you can't really fully mix a song unless you have vocals on it, or else the song won't match with the vocals. Listen to this song kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKOcqJxubtyYq5o It's fairly straightforward beat... I am sure T*m would trash the beat, but the way it is mixed makes it my top 5 song in '22.

@79Glitch Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118nah, he had the Timberlake album around the same time, and Shock Value had a lot of fire beats-I think I preferred that one over the the Timberlake and Furtado albums, just for the variety if nothing else. He was addicted to pain killers (OxyContin, I believe) shortly after that and almost died. So he lost a lot of time because of that, had to regain his health and sobriety, and then music changed to cutesy, teen tik tok trap music that all sounds like it was made by the same guy or A.I. bot. The guy still has a lot of knowledge, though. I would bet that he’ll still find a way to come out with something dope before it’s all said and done. I think he has one more classic in him, he’s just waiting for the right time and project.

@headdrumzmusic Жыл бұрын

Logic Gang! Ocean and Timberland 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@prodshisvi Жыл бұрын

uncomfy shoes

@GregFries Жыл бұрын

I smiled and was so happy every time Timbo was like, "You got another beat?"

@jkmedia8318 Жыл бұрын

3:47 i don’t think it‘s too „cinematic“ or not even „outdated“ as Timbaland says. @ocean just check out the German rapper LUCIANO with his newest album „MAJESTIC“. this is definitely a beat that he‘d rocked and also nearly all beats from this album are like yours. I love it bro!

@kurtcobain6877 Жыл бұрын

bro just having the attention of Timba and his trying-to-help criticism is already a blessing

@xbeatsofficial Жыл бұрын

Well the truth is bitter, the GOAT was right. If he'd played the beat for like small producers we'd be like 🔥🔥😤.

@ScantlessBeatz Жыл бұрын

I'm apart of timbo's beat club and the biggest thing I learned it's a feeling you're looking and it should Spark some type of feeling if it's not it's not it

@ajwesybeatz4015 Жыл бұрын

just saying ocean u have better beats any reason for picking these?

@NainzSiki Жыл бұрын

tru bruh

@tabibyte Жыл бұрын

why show good ones for criticism though

@makerbreaker6384 Жыл бұрын

@@tabibyteso you can be critiqued on your best work, if you're displaying mid and you know why it's mid then why even show it

@tabibyte Жыл бұрын

@@makerbreaker6384 sometimes there are beats that doesn't hit hard and you dont know what you can improve on

@nellsonone 2 ай бұрын

Now we can see the improvement keep going bro

@headdrumzmusic Жыл бұрын

Ocean was trollin 😂

@sebastianramirez2102 Жыл бұрын

😂

@TheCrazySquirell Жыл бұрын

Only explaination, some of them beats sounded like a year 11 made them in GCSE Music... Nothing like some of the stuff he's put out.

@humblemindsmusic4878 Жыл бұрын

idk a lot of producers out here don't know that the beats they think are the best are the worst ones. trust me this is me sometimes.

@tcsprynce5748 Ай бұрын

Tim is right, a lot of KZbin producers make beats no one would rap on because they sound too cinematic and overproduced. You have to leave room for the artist on beats

@jamesbrowny9488 Жыл бұрын

2:05 Ocean was about to burst out laught lmaoooooo

@supplantermusic9413 Ай бұрын

look more like he was about to crash out lolol

@addi_addi Ай бұрын

@@supplantermusic9413stop saying that bruh

@mixwaves9380 Жыл бұрын

Only gana make you better bro like the honesty tho keep going bless up

@alexroseakaphillie Жыл бұрын

Nice to see Tim put you in the right direction much respect

@RealDLMusic Жыл бұрын

It's always great to get feedback from a friend or fellow producer... it's even better that it was Timbo helping you out. Now I'm second guessing MY tag. lol I kinda ran into something similar while tryna make a reggaeton beat... where it sounded it good but something was missing cuz it just felt like I was tryna mesh two different genres. Add a lil percussion and speeding up the melody a little might help. Or like Timbaland said, try a different one. He's right though... you're getting there and that's dope. Keep doing big things Ocean.

@Sasuke99767 Жыл бұрын

The beats are very good. Timbo just likes to be a super coach. Ocean, you dont need to get those negative comments too serious. Great beats👍

@prodbyocean Жыл бұрын

Ofc! It’s all love, +ve criticism

@garycummingsjr.6896 Жыл бұрын

Nah ocean take the lessons. Only weak people see it as negative or hate. He paid his dues.

@NickCageDrippp Жыл бұрын

weak mindset

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@CRAYCRAY3592 7 ай бұрын

“First off take the tag out”last beat was placement worthy keep cooking

@GamerGriaBros Жыл бұрын

I understand some may think of better beats however, I feel this feedback was super vital regardless of how the records sounded. We all know Ocean goes hard, so that same feedback he will apply to any of his records from here out. This was such a humbling experience and you earned it Ocean!!💯

@isaacxvasquez Жыл бұрын

Respect to you and your grinding bro! Im always super honest even doe it might hurt its better to be honest. The problem with these beats you showed are that they are not unique, you are doing what has been done for 10 years or more. I think i almost recocginze all the drum sounds, and just starting there, record / pitch / combine your own drum sounds, or dig and find your own samples, otherwise you sound like 97% of all the beatmakers out there. There is to much of everything everywhere on the word wide web and to make good stuff one have to be unique, simply just being 100% yourself. Fins inspiration somewhere else than the music your going to make, travel, I dont know, hehe your own roots dig there. THere are milions of ways to explore and find a unique own sound. Avoid the comercial sample stations!!! God bless u bro, love your grind! big RESPECT

@LeebraMusicDDTLA Жыл бұрын

First , thank you for sharing this with us. secondly, I like how you took the criticism positively to enable you be more good at your craft. Thirdly, This channel is 🔥

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@CuzzoTheGreat Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@dot.O Жыл бұрын

"I dont hear no song over it" alot of beat makers tend to forget that 🔑

@spartanghost_17 Жыл бұрын

Exactly they get lost in making cool noise that nobody can make songs on. I'm shocked ocean only played trash beats on this. He has way better stuff

@heru32288 2 ай бұрын

@@spartanghost_17😂😂😂

@newmanh Жыл бұрын

I think this is completely normal that when a big producer is asked to review beats, they always have something to say. If I told Ocean to review my beats, he would sincerely find something to comment Ocean has made beats way better, songs far professional etc. but Timbaland has to critique...

@chandoncamillo9550 Жыл бұрын

Nah the drill beat was on point - it’s all about who you work with for one like that

@therealpipert 2 ай бұрын

That last one was fire, but I get what he’s saying although if you put the right person on it and a person sees the full picture, they can change their mind that way also but that last track

@pinkroomstudios Жыл бұрын

Super proud to see this Ocean. Keep going bro!

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@chaosevolution Жыл бұрын

Respect to Timbaland, but let's be real, analogue synths and hardware is trash compared to DSP. And Logic really is the best DAW. I've tried Cubase, FL, Ableton Live, Studio One 5, Mixcraft. Nothing competes. Pro tools is also trash. Logic has the best and easiest UI. Go to any studio around the world and in most cases Logic is the primary DAW for production, mixing and mastering. And for an analogue vibe/feel to synths or drums, that can easily be achieved using Digital plugins. I said what I said 😏

@iamdeandrefrench Жыл бұрын

To my ear, I see a career in sync and film music with Ocean. Everyone has a niche.

@unpublicized Жыл бұрын

fax i feel like his beats are a bit too conventional for rap songs today at least, not to take anything away from him though.

@thxrush Жыл бұрын

Finally. Feedback from the best. So no need to take offense. Just take it in and improve. Not these yes men that always try to act nice. We all need improvement. You’re so blessed to have had this experience. Just improve everything bro. Keys: learn scales. Engineering: learn dynamics and eq. Sound design: synthesis. Just keep getting better. Don’t stop.

@Fizzoom Жыл бұрын

Goat for getting the Timbaland collab

@NikoNiceMusic Жыл бұрын

Don't be discouraged Ocean..you the future broski!!

@flytronica Жыл бұрын

Do you think that part of this is that you and Timbaland have very different styles? I’m surprised at the selection you played him vs the other beats you’ve put up on your videos in the past that I think would have resonated with him more.

@antonedries3555 Жыл бұрын

Biggest takeaway is that you´re there but "not there", which in itself, just means one beat away. Last beat was complete fire.

@GorgonDrageil Жыл бұрын

Timbaland just doesn't like logic! 🤣 But I loved the third beat and the last beat. Proud of my boy Ocean, well done! 💪🏽🔥🔥🔥

@el-zach6434 Жыл бұрын

i really love his honesty with you, and that will kinda push the best of the heck producer in you to show up

@MrJayRed Жыл бұрын

It's all a matter of opinion. Timbaland can say "oh you need to keep it simple" but then go listen to his beat from "Ayo Technology" 50 Cent Feat. Justin Timberlake. It's like, he's critiquing because he's supposed to. Because if someone like Metro Boomin played him these exact beats he would be nodding his head like crazy saying how fire they are. Of course, it's Timbaland and his opinion is very valued in the field. But like I said he has to critique because Ocean is up and coming and he's a legend, I get it. But like I said if an established mainstream famous producer played these same beats he'd be singing their praises. So it's hard for me to really value his opinion too much.

@logicalblackman8228 3 ай бұрын

This is cat. He has plenty of other videos where he is going crazy to various These beats just weren’t good. The AO technology beat is fire. You can pull up the instrumental here on YT. It starts off, kind of whatever, with that cinematic pad or whatever. Obviously, the vocals sounds better because Five is doing an intro But when the pitched snares come in, it’s a wrap. And when the main beat drops, all I was doing was stank face😂 Not to mention, you arw comparing a beat that is at least 16 years old lol.

@alias434 2 ай бұрын

Nah he would absolutely tell Metro if he felt like something isn't good and he often tells bedroom producers he fucks with they shit on his streams.

@Sarah2ill Жыл бұрын

Good job for showing him fam!!!

@DJDangerBeatz Жыл бұрын

I feel like you’ve made way better beats then the ones shown in the video.

@bayboymusic1 Жыл бұрын

Scott Storch and Oak Felder using Logic to produce music. logic is dope!

@ambiguousslime2879 3 ай бұрын

I know Tim doesn't like anything that isn't his, unless it's a rare day, but I do agree with some of the stuff he said. The last beat was definitely the best of the batch. I liked the cinematic drill beat too. If I'm being honest, though, there's a lot of beats that sound extremely similar. The beat game is over saturated with cool beats, but they don't have an original sound. Back when Tim was making hits, he had a sound. A lot of it probably has to do with everyone using the same drums, and plugins, in current times. If people started to mess with sound design, and made sounds that never existed before, it would take the staleness out of hip hop.

@djprodluigi Жыл бұрын

ocean is like yeah, mmmmh, yeah , aaah , yeah. it says a lot from hearing it from his voice

@brandonmarquez1117 Жыл бұрын

Keep doing what your doing Ocean. Take Timbaland’s advice and apply it to Logic. Let this experience guide you to become a better producer!

@SMEL Жыл бұрын

Gratitude 🤝🏾 for sharing... wow!

@4444-s3x Жыл бұрын

The Daw doesn't matter just pick one of the top 3 FL Logic or Ableton and learn one. Timbaland saying Logic is only Good for vocals is a Big L "A Good Craftsman Never Blames His Tools"

@DJAUDIO1 Жыл бұрын

💯

@billybarrett272 Жыл бұрын

That’s the only thing that bothers me about his critique here. Throwing shade at DAW is crazy. Daw’s are just a foundation for a creator to build what they hear.

@DJAUDIO1 Жыл бұрын

@@billybarrett272 Exactly. Create heat, regardless of DAW. I see this in the DJ world, where DJs are always bickering over the superior DJ application, be it Serato, Rekordbox, Virtual DJ, Traktor, Algoriddim. The average person listening to music doesn't care which DAW a song was created in or what DJ application it was played thru, They just want to hear their favorite songs. Use what works best for you and keep it moving. Too much gatekeeping going on these days.

@Thunder-Raw-am 2 ай бұрын

4 realz. You can make a beat on anything, using anything, tables, spoons, cups trash cans, hell use your dam voice, jus use your imagination and have fun. I'm still banging out tracks on Logic pro 9. I only use it as a daw, if have external gear fo dat ass also. And my iPad with mo software. Bottom line, never let anyone tell you what not to do, real musicians play from the heart and if people feel it they feel it. Timbo is dope! But I don't like everything he puts out either. Yah-dah...

@weout6074 2 ай бұрын

As a person who uses Ableton, Logic, and Protools. Ableton feels more conducive to what Timbaland is saying. His creativeness and experimentation flows well in a DAW like Ableton. Many Ableton users are the epitome of “let’s try this.” “I wonder what this will do.” Until they find something they like. Where I musicians have an easier time in Logic.

@Juliano_DJOL Жыл бұрын

I don't know why Timbo hating on Logic like that...FL or Abelton just aint for me and Pro Tools has been retired in my studio due to terrible ownership and support, so Im Logic gang all day!

@xbeatsofficial Жыл бұрын

He really roasted it🥶

@freesoulmusicproductions Жыл бұрын

You know what even having timberland roast your beats is a level most people will never get to keep going bro I’ll see you at the top

@Erisbeatz Жыл бұрын

It's funny how we are judged by the pros, lol but this is art, you are actually seeking many opinions. Not from one person. Most people who listen to music just enjoy it. Those beats are 🔥and depends on who sing or rap on them that makes the hit song.

@Usenabt Жыл бұрын

They aren’t 🔥🤦🏾‍♂️

@Erisbeatz Жыл бұрын

@@Usenabt yeah.. I listen to a lot of top charting songs that beats not up the ones reviewed here.

@ShivamKumar-ip6sk Жыл бұрын

@@Erisbeatz what he played was very generic bro, nothing new, if you take generic beats to a legendary producer, he is going to shit on it that's very obvious. Literally every drill beat sounds like the one here, literally every lil baby type beat sounds like the first beat. you gotta be unique man.

@Erisbeatz Жыл бұрын

@@ShivamKumar-ip6sk agreed, But it doesn't mean if those beats are used by big names it won't be a hit, one thing is to be unique another is to be there.

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@xBunzRus Жыл бұрын

It’s not easy listening to someone dissect your work and critique it. Kudos to you for sitting there and being willing to learn

@knowledge25k Жыл бұрын

Yo! that was amazing. I guarantee with no doubt in my mind you are going to get 100 times better. Logic is my favorite daw but Ableton and Fl Drum just hit differently, Sometime you have to get off your comfort zone

@sandmanlopez9920 Жыл бұрын

Wow 😯

@giano6343 Жыл бұрын

WTF since when drums hit different on different daws. Never heard stupid stuff like this

@Radoganer Жыл бұрын

Ocean gonna be the upcoming taking it over, big ups to wanting to sement your craft through tough fires!

@FlynnNolan Жыл бұрын

Everything happens for a reason my bro. Maybe you weren’t meant to show him your best beats for a bigger reason and to just make you a better producer. Because I’ll echo what everyone else is saying here that you have muchhhh better songs than what you displayed to him but sometimes we can all get things out of perspective on our art. Either way this is legendary that you were able to have this experience. Keep doin your thing homie you’re crushin it 🙏🏼💪🏼

@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Ай бұрын

The fact that you think they are “songs” is…

@DlowTheProphet Жыл бұрын

so dope, alot of respect to have him in a Ft. i like how you showed off the not so usual beats to him for this video... kinda curious on the beats you showed him that he fucked with heavy. you make killer beats, and i know you had some in your arsenal that you shot out.

@curtislewis8801 Жыл бұрын

This is dope as hell but I think you for sure have better beats lol But I guess the point wasn't to impress him but to get meaningful feedback on your weaker areas. Shout out to you my boi!

@muzekebeats25 Жыл бұрын

Wow lots of pressure 😅 really dope..you should of showed him those mariachi remixes you did.

@kid1der250 Жыл бұрын

Ik ocean was crushed when Timb said to take his tag out 😭

@ahmeg. Жыл бұрын

💀

@sebastianramirez2102 Жыл бұрын

na 😭😭

@NeedMoreCowbell9 Жыл бұрын

I've been following you for a long time man, I started after watching two guys misto and pizzi. I can't believe Timbo is giving you feedback !!

@daqueenjo2549 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching you since I started producing two years ago!You’re an amazing producer and I’m excited to continue to see your journey and growth. I love the feedback TIMBALANDD gave cause that’s the only way we get even better. I do feel like you have better beats tho 😅 flowers to you Ocean, sending love from nyc 🔥

@DrGuy118 Жыл бұрын

@@garysyoutube T*m is an amazing artist... I just feel that a few comments he made, he had no right to make... Other than that, he is a stellar producer.