@@ProductReviewCarswhy is it called brZED is that just a British thing
@malthesn10 ай бұрын
@@CtskatesZ can be pronounced in 2 different ways, I also say "zed"
@OTPulse8 ай бұрын
@malthesn nah it's Zed, yanks just can't do English
@14bqdonk8 ай бұрын
@@CtskatesBecause ZED is how Z *originally* pronounced
@richardhoulton401611 ай бұрын
In Australia a manual GR86 is nearly $5K more expensive than a BRZ because of Toyota Australia’s decision to offer the manual & auto at the same price. The BRZ is the smarter choice.
@subiesnacks844611 ай бұрын
5k is chump change when purchasing a new vehicle.
@richardhoulton401611 ай бұрын
@@subiesnacks8446 It’s 10% difference
@subiesnacks844611 ай бұрын
@@richardhoulton4016now that its a percentage my mind has changed
@acogzxin296311 ай бұрын
@@richardhoulton4016fr especially if it’s being financed that’s 10% on top of an already existing percentage of APR
@jacksonboyd11 ай бұрын
@@subiesnacks8446not when it’s a significant percentage difference
@yeshwah3 ай бұрын
couldn’t decide so i bought a miata
@ProductReviewCars3 ай бұрын
Excellent alternative
@tizodd6Ай бұрын
M iata I s A always T he A nswer
@leoephrem488920 күн бұрын
@@tizodd6too small
@Nkb32838 ай бұрын
Basically: Why I want to buy the same car over the other same car
@steezenx7399Ай бұрын
The suspension is actually different on both cars. Front knuckles are different and rear sway bar are mounted different. So the brz is a little softer and better for a daily
@ExperiMentalDon2 ай бұрын
I like that the 86 and the BRZ have the different front ends. The 86 looks like it's intently digging into the drive, while the BRZ is giggling because it's just having fun. Damn I really want one of these.
@jordangordon2350Ай бұрын
I love that they're both great options that are slightly different. I personally prefer the BRZs looks, stability, WRBlue, but both are great cars
@elpettywifi308111 ай бұрын
don’t forget market adjustment on the gr86! brz is always msrp
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
Not here in Aus lol
@Stadkami11 ай бұрын
i got my gr86 for msrp here in the states. Waited probably 2-3 months
@GurenReroll10 ай бұрын
Not true. There are Subaru dealerships marking this up. 3.5k was the highest from when I tried to buy one.
@Jacccccccc9 ай бұрын
Not here in LA
@elpettywifi30819 ай бұрын
@@Jacccccccc got mine in sherman oaks, can vouch that LA does have msrp
@Driftuner8 ай бұрын
Did he just say that subaru made the brz more stiff? See people, thats why you cant listen to youtubers, they just dont know what they are talking about. The very only mechanical difference between both cars is the suspension, and the 86 is way stiffer than the brz. The sway bars on the 86 are not only thicker, but they are also mounted directly to the body of the car. On the brz the sway bars are thinner and mounted to the subframe of the rear diff. The sway bar ratio is also different: the brz has the same bar thickness front and back while on the 86 the rear bar is thicker than the front one. Hence why the 86 can hold drifts more precisely than the brz and the brz understeers a bit more. Plus, spring rates and valving are much stiffer on the 86, about 10-15% stiffer, front and back. That makes the brz the better everyday/long trip commuter and the 86 the better track day car...
@ProductReviewCars8 ай бұрын
Funny. All my research suggests the new gen 86 is the more soft on the rear. Proving this point wrong. Of course I should get them side by side and get underneath to really sus it out.
@Driftuner8 ай бұрын
@@ProductReviewCarsmaybe what you found is that yes they did make it softer compared to last gen, because the chassis rigidity went up by a rdiculous 40%. But its only softer compared to last gen, not compared to the suby. On both gens the suby is always softer on the rear than the 86
@jasonhurdlow66073 ай бұрын
Yep, which is why if I ever get one it'll be the BRZ, even though the 'yota looks better. I'd daily drive it and the comfort would be a key factor. I don't have a track within hundreds of miles.
@ninjaknight-jn9ky2 ай бұрын
The brz is the one with the chassis mounted swaybar it's also hollow.
@jcrbama2 ай бұрын
Subaru also used aluminum knuckles in the front suspension vs. Toyota using iron. The throttle mapping is just a bit different as well. The BRZ is more linear and the GR86 is more biased toward the top of the pedal travel. Small things that make them just a tiny bit different. The GR86 feels a bit more edgy and the BRZ feels a bit more balanced out.
@paradoxgaming04072 ай бұрын
I just like the lil smile on the BRZ :)
@H.K_R9 ай бұрын
Don’t forget that the BRZ also comes with Subaru’s excellent EyeSight safety system, making it a safer daily driver.
@spartanswill9 ай бұрын
GR86 has the Toyota safety sense
@RRtradestar7 ай бұрын
Only if you make the mistake of getting A BRZ with the automatic transmission
@digitalsmithy4 ай бұрын
I would hate to have eyesight on my car, no thanks. A lot of ppl need it tho so I’m not against it. Half the reason I bought this car is how analog it is
@creepynutsrl4 ай бұрын
subaru is owned by toyota, both have the same tech and features
@gary_beniford4 ай бұрын
@@creepynutsrlactually toyota only owns a fraction of subaru.
@liamandrewartha48037 ай бұрын
New ts spec on the BRZ means better dampers, bigger brakes and a red accented interior ;)
@_mark_78711 ай бұрын
Keep it up, Bro🤙🏽
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
Cheers!! Appreciate it :)
@Dominik18911 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd take either, just don't forget to budget the unfuccing of the oil system with a dry sump one and a sump with an actual seal instead of silicone.
@zayya52849 ай бұрын
For real, I hope they fix it in the facelift
@Astartes76704 ай бұрын
The rtv is from the whole engine not just the one from the pan, better then nth i guess
@Dominik1894 ай бұрын
@@Astartes7670 so just budget a rebuild of the engine with proper MLS gaskets?
@LurkingEveryday18 күн бұрын
Bro for that price??? That’s a steal fr 😂
@noahpickerill37495 ай бұрын
Woah the black and red interior is awesome! 😀
@PhantomJetA92 ай бұрын
It looks very good in white, also the license plate slaps.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodjinx2 ай бұрын
I've always loved the look of the 86's but the BRZs kinda grew on me too. Thankfully I'm a WRX guy so I don't have to make the choice cause I love them both
@pawg2062 ай бұрын
What’s cooler about the interior? 😂
@eagle_23518 ай бұрын
As a subi fanboy, I dont have a choice. I also prefer the brz intrument cluster.
@TrojanRabbit5215 ай бұрын
Plus better dealership experience and if I have engine issues want Subaru to fix it.
@AstroZombie14 ай бұрын
As a Toyota fan, I'd still get BRZ for the TS trim.
@HazyTown019 ай бұрын
I keep hearing too much about RTV in the oil pickup to feel confident in getting one.
@ProductReviewCars9 ай бұрын
can fix in the aftermarket, but it's annoying af
@EclipseLmao2 ай бұрын
miata is the better pick 🗣️
@z32luvr2 ай бұрын
S2000 is way better but you can’t buy brand new.
@EclipseLmao2 ай бұрын
@@z32luvr I didn't mention that cz they don't make em any more lol, in the new budget jdm coupe scene miata takes it 🗣️
@loco_mopowa_los10 ай бұрын
In the USA Brz has the red seats while the gr86 is grey
@iheartninja10 ай бұрын
I was gonna say. I have a BRZ and it has the red accents, which is perfect because it matches my paint.
@Dragon22883311 ай бұрын
Wish mine came with that red interior. The black looks great but that red 😫
@derekwong34712 ай бұрын
Side note on the BRZ : more robust front subframe and aluminum front knuckles.
@devinw633211 ай бұрын
Wait.. isn’t stiffer better for getting sideways/drifting..?
@dirkvantroyen91709 ай бұрын
I was confused by that too, I think he meant to say that the GR86 is stiffer (which it is)
@sydneyNemesis1019 ай бұрын
think he got mixed up lol
@Wayfaringmusician8 ай бұрын
He got mixed up. The GR is stiffer in the rear and more soft in the front than the BRZ. The trade off is the BRZ is slightly slower through cornering but grips the track better. The BRZ is also a more comfortable daily. I drove both and ended up with the BRZ. Love it. Just need to unfxxck the oil system.
@alabdel138810 ай бұрын
Good reasoning, agree 100%
@123parallaxАй бұрын
absolutely identical car other than the logo and some very minor differences in tuning. with toyota markups, crappy customer service, and no way to custom order, choosing brz over 86 is a no-brainer.
@bserious8341Ай бұрын
Its the same car so comparing the two is just stupid. Ppl just rather the toyota bc its got a cooler name and toyota jdm badges. Front end is the only major difference and its based off opinion. Personally i like the longer nose on the brz
@pseudonym587226 күн бұрын
No, it's not the same. Suspension mounts and tuning are different. BRZ is more compliant, 86 is stiffer. I bought a first-gen BRZ in 2022 just because I don't like the duck bill spoiler they switched to in the second-gen. Plus it was a really good buy - a 2016 with only 13.8k miles and a clean title.
@bushgnome4 ай бұрын
#1 IT LOOKS WAAAAY BETTER than the BRZ. But then again, I also really dislike the way the new WRX looks also. Like feminine subaru in the front, truck or suv on the side and straight honda civic in the rear.
@13jeffandtrish11 ай бұрын
Subaru doesn't give you a full spare tire at least not here in Canada
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
Sucks :(
@vibingwithjoseph4100Ай бұрын
I miss and prefer the older look that the cars had they looked more aggressive and look better when fully customized with a kit
@guesswho43278 ай бұрын
I still dont understand why there would be a Subaru motor in a Toyota car. It's like a BMW motor in the new Supras.
@BernievidsАй бұрын
“Your Mum likes to go sideways” (said like Kip).
@ludicrousspeeds49386 ай бұрын
Where can you get a red interior? Black is the only option in the US.
@eb5671Ай бұрын
Those reasons are exactly why I would choose the BRZ 😂
@asherpanguАй бұрын
Does it have better looking modern icons on the screen compared to stupid silly looking bubbles on Subaru?
@WolFiendx11 ай бұрын
my brz has a black and red interior whatchu smokin?
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
can't get a black and red interior like this on the new BRZ in Australia
@lucienpetrus385120 күн бұрын
Go Toyota ..........Cape Town South Africa ❤
@InfoumusMOBBАй бұрын
I 100% agree. 86 does look better
@VICEtown6415 күн бұрын
Bro how much for this car and what do you think THIS car is recommended frt teen age
@J.R.F.235 ай бұрын
One big reason why I would pick the BRZ (and did) over a GR86. Is because it’s a Subaru motor; if you need repairs on the engine… a Subaru mechanic specializes in boxer motors; a Toyota mechanic does not! Having a Toyota mechanic working on a Subaru motor is like having a knee surgeon, working on your spine.
@DaManCave1233 ай бұрын
this car is an amazing second car, but hyundai elantra n has the makings of a great first car, with 4 seats, practicality like heated seats, moonroof and obviously, fun! (it also has ambient lighting just saying)
@superc91024 күн бұрын
I would take the seats out the 86 and put it in the brz. Cause blue gots to go! Other than that, i would most definitely take the brz over the 86
@KushTime4207 күн бұрын
wouldnt a stiffer car make it easier to slide?
@Partizan-one2 ай бұрын
I miss the lava orange colour.
@tye5952 ай бұрын
That tired boxer. I know there's heaps of people who love them, but I think they're an old dated engine that are shit to work on. + gravity it begging it to have an oil leak with those cylinder heads
@omerozer966711 ай бұрын
You know what i prefer the brz face with that smile the gr is Just too agressive and it looks like a screaming car
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
So strange. Because I'm the complete opposite.
@_Ryder11 ай бұрын
Wtf over here in US no red and black until tureno comes out which I’m waiting to buy I hope this December can’t wait for a 86 no more literally my dream car since I was 13
@Moondoggy19413 ай бұрын
Funny I love the color blue and I found the Toyota has a better blue than Subaru's blue, and I love the blue on the WRX.
@hirzaahmadmutahari69875 ай бұрын
wait gr86 didn't have spare tire? really?
@Mathman4203 ай бұрын
2024 Civic Si for me please.
@hondacar4 ай бұрын
I heard that the ride on the BRZ is more compliant than the GR86.
@pseudonym587226 күн бұрын
It is. The suspension mounts are a bit different and the tuning of the shocks/struts, springs, and anti-roll bars is different.
@CanesDent3 күн бұрын
But will Toyota void your warranty for driving over 85 mph
@severe287 ай бұрын
Actually like the BRZ interior more.🤷🏽♂️
@ProductReviewCars7 ай бұрын
Valid take
@user-io5ol4vg6e5 ай бұрын
Only bad thing about this cars is they are slow af, I have a 2017 86 and it’s fun to drive but too slow, that’s the only bad thing about it imo
@Its_takaa11 ай бұрын
My gr86 didn’t have a black and red interior option
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
😢
@wills349110 ай бұрын
I bought the brz. It looks better than the gr86.
@leisaben8 ай бұрын
Agreed he’s like oh the 86 can have a red interior and my brz came with a better looking red and black interior stock anyway lol
@katlegokomane33858 ай бұрын
The brz looks happy and I'm all for it
@peterg23456 ай бұрын
That was my primary choice. That and that Toyota didn't even want to talk to me. Plus WR Pearl Blue is THE colour for this car.
@bushgnome4 ай бұрын
I like both but I'm team 86. Imo The 86 looks far sexier (if that's even a word)
@AstroZombie14 ай бұрын
@@peterg2345 Plus they have the TS trim! I'd def get that if I get it brand new.
@who_am_you3 ай бұрын
My brz did not come with a spare, plus all the parts to change the spare are where the spare goes
@speedfreakwrx595610 ай бұрын
No spare tire in the BRZ! Where would they even put it?
@BRZTrackDays8 ай бұрын
I believe he said no spare of the Toyota GR86. BRZ does come with a full size spare
@speedfreakwrx59568 ай бұрын
@@BRZTrackDaysI have a 2023 and it does not have any spare tire! Only a fix a flat kit.
@dystopia-usa8 ай бұрын
The white/red lights/housings mounted at the lower rear between the tailpipes look cheap/tacky IMO.
@user-mi3gq2fn4zАй бұрын
bro said BRZ in the beginning and I was like something is not right here
@loneokami656011 ай бұрын
In Europe the GR86 has an beautiful light blue color
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
I’m jealous
@Torboy12411 ай бұрын
And Canada
@theodoresmith437110 ай бұрын
In America also
@redbone9713 ай бұрын
I have the light blue one in the US
@elieberro573111 ай бұрын
Let me list facts the brz is more stable and is a better handling car just get the gr86 engine tune and front bumper for it and your good
@darckR1Ай бұрын
Nah you choose because it's Toyota. Hips don't lie
@nickjacobsss4 ай бұрын
tbh this generation I think the brz has a SIGNIFICANTLY better looking front end, the 86 sharp edges look very cheap (to me)
@BrandonAaskov2 ай бұрын
“I’m going to pick the track-inspired sports car that has the nicer interior. Helps with go fast.”
@savage39422 ай бұрын
You realize people are gonna go aftermarket for suspension regardless
@savage39422 ай бұрын
And body kits are a thing too. Soo really your points are invalid
@Burningdaylighter11 ай бұрын
Went from saying br Z to seconds after br ZED ☠️
@untheist55334 ай бұрын
Can a full size spare fit in the GR86 ?
@Sinash1_Ай бұрын
Gr front grill looks like a new corolla
@bign16673 ай бұрын
Can you put a spare tyre on the GR86?
@d8o8m84 ай бұрын
In the uk it’s an easy choice because Toyota does 10 warranty.
@agustinurbano11 ай бұрын
I had 3 warranty covered rod knocks with an FRS but these cars are fuuuuuun and they break necks stock tbh, great daily I got a 2019 86 TRD special edition now, i love it and the last guy put a loud ass catted exhaust + kn filter + 91 octane from Shell + granny shift or downshift and it might pop and bang real nice lol When it blows up eventually I’m definitely gonna want a Honda or Toyota motor + tranny swap on the considerably low vs about $8,000 from Subaru
@agustinurbano11 ай бұрын
It was listed for like $17999 salvaged, 51k miles, vs about $30k with 20k in late 2022
@user-sk4wf3ve6z11 ай бұрын
The engine won't blow up if you just keep it well maintained,the only dodgy ones were the 2013/14 models.i have a 2015 with over 150k miles and I don't drive it sensibly haha
@agustinurbano11 ай бұрын
Oh yee! I had the 2013 one with the recall. It was driving better than ever before Toyota worked on it, then they were liable and under warranty for 3 rod knocks within like 5 months. got a refund on it so it was basically free. I felt sponsored. Good times lololol @@user-sk4wf3ve6z
@Sinash1_Ай бұрын
Also Subaru has the mobile app you can use to turn on your car plus better interior
@major.raytron9 ай бұрын
I think the red interior is not available on right hand drive. That sucks.
@CorneliusRushtie2 ай бұрын
Great hairdressers car like the celica once was
@ItsChris_tixnАй бұрын
I would personally buy a bmw 228i for the same price and stage 2 it and it would have 300-400 horsepower, moral of the story BMW is more tunable
@MrNotoa2 ай бұрын
Toyota did the fuel injection on the motor because Subaru doesn’t know how to do it, so the motor is not all Subaru
@caribbeangtr80773 ай бұрын
Doesnt the rear suspension on the GR86 use better parts like the control arms etc?
@ProductReviewCars3 ай бұрын
So I’ve heard
@Shirehi28 күн бұрын
I never understood the point of selling 2 of the same car with the same options through two different brands 😂
@pseudonym587226 күн бұрын
Toyota owns part of Subaru, so they get to make money from both. They are separating development in the next version though.
@malcolmdbz7 ай бұрын
He's wrong, us subie gen 2's didn't get spares either. We got a bottle of fix a flat and a good luck letter
@ProductReviewCars7 ай бұрын
There's defs a spare in the 2023 BRZ...we review cars in Aus so might be different in other markets
@zaidibk694 ай бұрын
GR 86 with a GR Yaris engine - that would be ideal!
@ProductReviewCars4 ай бұрын
That's the next one!
@ninjaita169411 ай бұрын
For newer ones you gotta get the gr86, the gt86 (2020 or less I think) looks worse then the older brz
@momane843411 ай бұрын
It’s the same car 🤷♂️
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
marginally different
@NateBoulter23 күн бұрын
What about the frs
@alexisbarahona897516 күн бұрын
Hate when people call it brZed
@SanusiAdewale2 ай бұрын
1 week 1 girlfriend. Nice plate number
@EA300_2 ай бұрын
Id rather get a Supra
@GGsGraveАй бұрын
I got the BRZ there is NOT a spare in the back.
@alecw54916 ай бұрын
subaru did not give me a spare for my 22 brz
@brightenupccАй бұрын
This guy knows nothing about these cars.
@Vorrimade11 ай бұрын
perhaps an unpopular opinion but I much prefer the old GT86 / BRZ design its so iconic
@ProductReviewCars11 ай бұрын
that's fair
@cyberwyvern649911 ай бұрын
My brz has the black and red interior
@uidr3 ай бұрын
Never buy brand new car buy used ones they drop in value soo fast.
@hiro.exe_Ай бұрын
I couldn't decide so i made a but more money and got a m4comp xdrive
@freespeach993 ай бұрын
The reasons have nothing to do with performance, handling driver centric design … just looks … LOL