Prof. Kevin Anderson, Climate: Where We Are Headed

[@tordkarl]

“People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage. Intellectual myopia, often called stupidity, is no doubt a reason.” ― John Kenneth Galbraith

[@jimthain8777]

I have surrendered some of my fossil fuels "material advantage", and I'm not alone. Millions have so far. The problem is that billions have to change, even if just in small ways for the change to really make a difference. We all buy fossil fuels, or things we get from them. We can all choose alternatives when alternatives are available. I have done some, and would like to do more.

[@Yorkshireasaurus]

This statement makes no sense in regard to climate change it’s NOT just the privileged it’s everyone.

[@andrewmeiklem5098]

​@@jimthain8777the people you are talking about don't care. They will kill anybody to keep pushing oil/gas. Then the fact that there are billions of religious people who trust the world in God's hands .... How can you compete with that lol Nothing will be done. Children will soon turn on the old for ignoring it for so long.

[@volkerengels5298]

Oh thank you. Most people like to believe the pure evil is ""greed"" LOL "Immortal Idiots" thats what we are.

[@NoidoDev]

People in this movement are always finding the alleged mental flaws in others. Well, you failed and still are.

[@helenhenthorn4948]

Crop failures and widespread starvation, and war, will likely precede the worst of climate conditions. We may not be around to witness significant sea level rise. 60% of all greenhouse emissions were released in just the last 30 years. We are living in an atmosphere that's entirely new to all of us born before 1993. No wonder climate scientists are saying they’re seeing an accelerating acceleration, and all estimates of decline rates are outdated by the time they’re released.

[@pvmagnus]

it is too late. 1C - 1.5C was enough for collapse. Kevin knows this. It's not 100% but very likely. That's why we shld still do the right thing even though collapse is guaranteed.

[@gregorymegbert9086]

Thats correct as dr wadhams pointed out years ago

[@wooloo47]

Will these very same things not occur if we reduce the use of fossil fuels? We depend on nitrogen and fossil fuels for the high yields in agriculture that have allowed for exponential population growth. If we reduce these yields and resources dwindle, how will people react? It seems a self fulfilling prophecy to me.

[@reuireuiop0]

Somehow, that part about worldwide pandemics making the pest look a minor flu epidemic, just slipped by ..

[@teddybearroosevelt1847]

I agree. Rising food and energy prices, crop failures, high unemployment, an economic depression, countries that run out of water, refugee flows, war: all of these things will precede the worst of climate change and it will be one of them that kills us before the flood waves do.

[@M00Nature]

Thank you, Professor Anderson, for your straight talk and truth telling. It is horrifying to see what is happening to our planet and to watch the political leaders twiddling their thumbs as we head over the cliff. I hope more scientists will speak up like you are doing. And I hope that people will begin preparing their children and grandchildren for a very difficult life.

[@mrpaul5726]

We should have started to listen to Kevin a long time ago.

[@glenwarrengeology]

We will be when it is too late.

[@earthsystem]

my efforts (*) giving away garden seedlings to open conversations about the changing climate (*) engaging strangers in climate & pollution urgency when they are receptive, (*) personally, I've become vegan and purchase, almost nothing outside of thrift stores and careful food choices, (*) I increasing use my profession, black humor writing, to nudge people to personal realization of the serious tragic reality, jeez this planet is packed with do nothing energy.

[@StartledPancake]

A long time ago, Kevin was off building oil rigs. Hes right in what he says, but hes no hero.

[@pvmagnus]

​@glenwarrengeology it is too late. 1C z 1.5C was enough for collapse. Kevin knows this. It's not 100% but very likely. That's why we shld still do the right thing even though collapse is guaranteed.

[@preimer22]

​@@earthsystemRight there with you. Decades spent trying to educate students and the public. All seems for naught.

[@StartledPancake]

We have already broken the 1.5C limit. I studied Microbiology (which had a major climate change component) in the early 1990s and the one thing that I would say has been totally consistent throughout the unveiling of the climate crisis, has been the inappropriately tepid langue from climate change scientists which has allowed people to underestimate the scale of the problem. Whilst I welcome this talk and think it should be required viewing for everyone on the planet, we are partially in this mess due to science not being able to shift gears in the previous decades and make people aware of the true risk. That true risk is that from this year onwards our agricultural capacity starts dropping off rapidly, if we have 10 years left Id be amazed. We needed this forceful language 50 years ago, now I fear its far too late. We have been well aware of the impact of human emissions of C02 on our atmosphere for more than 60 years. The language we need now is far more brutal, people need to be told that we need to get ready for most of us being dead within the next decade and that we need to start working out how the rest survive beyond that.

[@wjm1319]

Disagree. The only 'tepid' language I've seen has been from politicians and reporters relaying *their interpretations* of what scientists have been saying. Scientists have basically been saying "The sky is falling!" for decades (since that first report) and having the press turn it into "We might see a meteor shower tonight" and politicians shift it into "There will be a perfect falling star to wish on tonight!" The fault doesn't lie with the scientists. IT's with those who have refused to listen to them.

[@russtaylor2122]

Agree. Scientific Reticence should have been decoded by governmental advisors. Unfortunately, governments are bought and paid for by fossil fuel corporations that cannot see beyond the profit motive and never will.

[@iluvmuusic]

I don't think it's fair to blame scientists. Had they used more forceful language, it would have been ignored just the same. You see, what we're really interested in is... sex, celebrities, shopping, sports, and very few other things (politics, religion, vacations, whatever). There are dire warnings about climate change frequently now... headlines ?... 1 hour max.... and on to much more exciting stuff. We, the people, are the problem. Not scientists.

[@celestialteapot309]

Because we fear the consequences of global governance and dramatic social change we will stay as we are until nature changes us. Perhaps this happened on other planets and is why they now look so bleak?

[@volkerengels5298]

No matter why our society collapses - 440 nuclear power plants will explode afterwards.

[@kenny3485]

Dr. Carter, good afternoon. Thank you for sharing this talk.

[@russtaylor2122]

Cheers Kevin. People say they want change, but they don't want to change...

[@jamesmckenna8092]

I’m an insanely positive person but know enough about the human predicament to realise our goose is cooked. Be a force for good where you can and make peace with the world as it is, not what it might be. There is nothing in science or religion that promises eternity on this beautiful rock hurtling through space. Be grateful for what you have and for life itself. 🕊

[@everittslivemusicsocialenv6733]

I've watched this before and I too am trying to spread the message of our need to evolve and change the way we live. It's not just one thing we do but we don't live in balance with the panet and the other life that exists. We are failing our future generations but have to keep trying. Thank you.

[@kimwelch4652]

We have never been through the kind of social change necessary to avoid the current crisis. We have never seen the level of ecological overshoot, the underlying cause of climate change, as we are currently experiencing with the human species. No, species has ever overshot the entire planet's biosphere capacity --not on this planet. What is required is not an incremental tweak to the existing social contract. We as a species must give up our toys and our displays of social hierarchy (i.e., wealth) and learn to live within local ecological bounds. That is a non-starter in any political discussion, in any country. It is not something that technology can solve because it is sociological not technical. Eventually, the global society will collapse, and people will be forced by nature to live within their local ecological bounds or die. The social change will be profound and since real evolution only occurs near extinction, we'll may see some real evolution in the species assuming we don't go extinct first.

[@J.M.-nb4gw]

Yep you just described exactly why humans are doomed to near-term extinction, because collectively we are NOT going to make the changes necessary to prevent total ecological and economic collapse in a few years. That ship has sailed years ago and we are totally fvcked now

[@SpencerFieldingSmith]

We will. Our species is already feeling hard the edges of our petri dish.

[@timtam2126]

world war 2 and covid are relevant examples of massive societal change. This is the mother of them all but we can do it if we rise up.

[@roberthornack1692]

The aerosol masking paradox guarantees there will be no survivors, especially with the meltdown of our nuclear facilities, & the complete destruction of our protective ozone layer!

[@leviahimsa]

A big part of our ecological overshoot is that for every 1 human baby born, we unnaturally breed ~572 other babies onto farms. We can't stop the population crash, but we can soften it and reduce suffering for other beings. ✌️

[@JugheadJones03]

Well spoke. I have been following Kevin's videos since 2013. Thank you for trying to educate the public in your academic field. And thank you for trying to foster change all of these years.

[@ronaldkable]

Great summary of our predicament, and a strong message to stay involved. Thank you, Kevin

[@wileydc1]

My advice to all is be a climate voter. I have worked as an environmental engineer on GHG emissions for 25 years and I agree with this assessment, its critical to get serious on mitigation and adaptation. We're looking at a global extinction event.

[@LivingNow678]

Every kind of Life can adapt itself slowly not in rapid way and now we are facing a very abrupt change of climate and habitat Good luck dear brothers and sisters 🙏

[@meneedmorebrain]

The problem with the idea of "global responses" regarding the financial crisis and COVID is, that in both cases tax money from the peasants were transferred to the upper echelons, the rich profitted of the "global response", that's why it happened. There is no money to be made in responding to climate change, so this is why the rich fought nail and tooth to prevent any wealth destroying action.

[@rogerblanchard3715]

Kevin is saying what I've been saying for many years. What we are doing adds up to essentially nothing. I live in northern Michigan. The people here, and I'd say most of the U.S., are oblivious to the seriousness of this issue. The vast majority of people here won't go anywhere without a motor vehicle, do any work without a fossil fueled powered device or consider the global warming impact of how they live. This meteorological winter will shatter the previous record high where I live. Probably most of the people here are happy about that but there are serious implications that they don't understand.

[@pvmagnus]

Yes I tell my family & friends when they bring it up now due to xwx that basically civilization is over. Billions are going to die &blife for most of thebrest of us is a dystopian nightmare. They don't can't accept it. They think we'll come up with a solution. Nope 😢

[@steventhomas6071]

That's Australia, that's everyone throughout 💥

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

@@steventhomas6071 i thought australia might be a bit more sensible than the US because....well its not the US for one thing and because Australia is more on the frontlines than the usa

[@iancameron5536]

Believe it or not the solution- Revelation 11:18.

[@robertahouyh6030]

😊😅😊​@@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate

[@LandscaperGarry]

Decades sgo we were forced to choose between long term survival or keeping the present economy alive...we obviosly choose the latter. Oh, well, glsd to be an older person...can't begin to imagine what our grandkids are going to be forced to deal with, mostly because of our greed and denial.

[@nancylaplaca]

Thank you Peter and Kevin - many of us are fighting the fossil fuel juggernaut

[@JCurcio]

Been saying this for years. 100%. Politically and socially there are still no signs that we're anywhere near being in the place we'd need to be to move the dial.

[@MrCyclist]

I have been saying what Prof Kevin is saying for years. In a capitalist system we must have growth to sustain ourselves. To harness this growth to meet the lowering of global emissions means we must reduce our use of fossil fuels and a take lower standard of living and cause the collapse of many companies to bankruptcy and mass unemployment. Green energy will not and cannot fill the void quickly enough to avoid this.

[@amberazurescale5617]

As the first part of the video is concerned, I celebrate Prof. Anderson for his untainted words I couldn't agree more to. When he starts talking about the C crisis and hope though, our opinions differ. I think the crisis is rather the opposite of an example of a global answer to a global problem, and we shouldn't confuse a global effect with targeted action. The CO2 dip that happened was a side effect, not a willful achievement. I've seen a plethora of different approaches of tackling the crisis. But most prominently, I've seen global irrationality, hysteria, fearmongering, science abuse, conflict and toxidity, and many people filling their pockets. Furthermore, the notion of optimism at the end of the video is in stark contrast to the analysis that the last 30 years were dominated by inaction. It is correct that inaction does not have to continue, howewer that doesn't mean that it will not. I don't see any reason to believe that what didn't happen for three decades will still happen in time, especially not when the world is slipping into a new era of war.

[@urpotaskinen]

A tip for all of you (us) that don’t have English as our native language. In KZbin you can slow Kevin’s important speech to 0,75% speed. Thank you Kevin for your important work! 🌍

[@reverands571]

Excellent and well informed speaker.

[@patrick247two]

When we have sleep walked into RCP 8.5, any creature weighing more than 10 kg, is on the way out over the next 1000 years. And it's always the big ones first.

[@forcingclimateinfo7014]

Right but much faster we have soon cleaned earth, it is all about the rate of change and it's going hyper fast. Peace

[@EmeraldView]

Oh we can do better than RCP 8.5 . We're humans. We'll go WELL above that in the end.

[@thalesnemo2841]

@@EmeraldView LOL 😂 😅😅 We can RCP 10 or even 15 !

[@gobgibbesnimmer]

time to finish the AI

[@EmeraldView]

​@@thalesnemo2841 That's the spirit! Humanity! Greatest of all world destroyers! Bar none.

[@helenhenthorn4948]

There are deep sink holes in Siberia caused by permafrost melt that you could fit a city block of Manhattan Island high-rises in. How much methane does one of these holes release, and how much is the potential in a vast region experiencing a 4x rate of heating than the rest of the globe.

[@nickkacures2304]

These methane explosions that caused the huge craters must have been horrific to see in person they are large and deep

[@maryyett4637]

Gross economic inequality is the biggest factor in humanity's inability to make any significant change that could actually slow fossil fuel emissions, much less reverse them. The ultrarich not only have far too much money, but they also have far too much political power, which they use to protect their power and lifestyle. We need to heavily tax the billionaires and use that money to reduce emissions across the planet and help vulnerable humans everywhere adapt to the catastrophic climate changes that are already locked in due to numerous tipping points that have already been passed. Banning private jets would be a good place to start, for example. This will require, literally, a mass uprising of the common people against our economic overlords, as in passing laws to tax them heavily.

[@SineEyed]

Gimme a break... 10,000 private jets flown around by the world's elite hardly compares to a billion automobiles being driven around by everyone else. It is the masses and our daily energy consumption, industry, and commerce which is forcing this issue..

[@Azamat421]

Bullshit it’s both jets are worse

[@maryyett4637]

I used private jets as an example of "low hanging fruit" that would be an obvious choice as a place to start. We must,of course, at this point, do EVERYTHING we can to save ourselves from extinction. Climate chaos is indeed an existential threat.

[@SineEyed]

@@maryyett4637 but it's _not_ an obvious choice because it would have no real effect. As I pointed out, the emissions of a few thousand small private jets (which, as far as machines go, are very efficient; and the fuel they use burns cleaner than the petrol/gasoline used in automobiles, the diesel used by big-rigs to transport our goods, and the fuel-oil used by shipping vessels for the same purpose). Getting rid of private jets would be wholly inconsequential to the absolute reduction of emissions which needs to happen. Are YOU doing everything you can to save us all? I doubt it. You would need to live off-grid, make your own clothes, grow your own food... all in an enviromentally and ecologically sustainable way. That's basically what _everybody_ needs to do--we all need to return to the absolute shit way of life, living hungry and cold, like it was for everyone in the pre-industrial revolution era. I KNOW you're not going to do that. Nobody is going to do that. Nobody would even know how..

[@SineEyed]

@@Azamat421 prove it..

[@robertcartwright4374]

Kevin Anderson, courtesy of Peter Carter. Thanks !

[@fr57ujf]

I agree that getting people to take the problem seriously is the first step, but the next question is, what can we do? Eight billion people need a lot of energy. Despite rapid growth, wind and solar only provide a small fraction of this demand. Emissions reductions will require serious energy austerity, mainly on the part of wealthy people, corporations, and countries. Since growth capitalism controls world politics, this is unlikely to happen until the whole system starts to fail.

[@russmarkham2197]

I came to the same conclusions as Kevin about a year ago. I used to be essentially a "techno-optimist", knowing the dire situation but expecting new technology to save us from the worst. Now, I do not think that is going to save us.

[@dougveganparadisebuilder5808]

Because we have an unsolvable cultural problem and not a technological problem, techno-fixes may delay but not prevent our demise.

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

im pretty sure we'll do solar geoengineering and who knows maybe that'll give us the time for generation A to live out the rest of their natural lives. im pretty sure gen Z and beyond will not be starting families a whole lot at least in first world countries anyway.

[@russmarkham2197]

@@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate I agree that we should immediately and urgently be researching climate repair options. It is likely our only hope. Humans show no signs of cutting back on fossil fuels. While I am not optimistic that climate repair will work at scale, there could be some hope. We should try seeding the oceans to promote phytoplankton growth, inject aerosols and dust into the stratosphere, and make land and sea more reflective among other things. A giant Fresnel lens at Lagrange point L1 would be even cooler. Not going to happen in time though.

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

@@russmarkham2197 well in fact theres tons of evidence that solar geoengineering WOULD work at scale, thats the frustrating thing. its just people being scared of something that is outlandish that is holding it back. the really difficult part about solar geoengineering is the governance and the public perception of it. but with time a state or a coalition of states are gonna start doing it. of that i have no doubt . itl be do solar geoengineering or cease to exist for those states. id prefer we got on with it now and prevent ecosystem damage from heat. but we wont. anyway if its of interest look up talks on it. David Keith, doug Macmartin, Jesse Reynolds, Pete Irvine amongst many others have given great talks on it. the best one ive heard recently was "RFF Solar Geoengineering Futures | Important Next Steps for Solar Geoengineering Policy and Research" if you put that into youtube. and talk to people about solar geoengineering. help make it known. most people have never even heard of it, and the scientists involved say that needs to change.

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

@@russmarkham2197 theres actually tons of evidence that stratospheric aerosol injection would work. look up some videos by david keith, doug macmartin, pete irvine.

[@30LayersOfKevlar]

Person is smart, people are dumb. Nothing will happen, not on the scale that's needed.

[@danstaley6179]

There are far, far too many people on this planet to manage in one direction. Just a few hundred years ago we were mostly ruled by kings, now it is a free-for all - and we still are violent, nasty, brutish and short-sighted. That's a lot to overcome.

[@equious8413]

Humans have always been a creature that sees patterns in a whole. We're incapable of seeing the scope of our impact and we'll be incapable of stopping it as a result.

[@Jwinius]

Despite the gravity of our climate situation, it does not seem to be within the capacity of our civilization to act rationally and accordingly. This is telling. We think we're so smart, but collectively we prefer to ignore the facts and act upon our baser instincts instead. Like children, but without enough time to grow up. The problem is, even though we may not go extinct in the process, our civilization is more likely to do so. And without abundant fossil fuels to boot up version 2, this may very well be the last human civilization with advanced technology.

[@andyhodchild8]

I went to FOE 49 years ago at 16 after my parents took me to Centre for Alternative Technology. Even at that time a lots of people knew what was going wrong. Anyone remember the Whole Earth book? I think collapse of the food system is going to be the big hit even to wealthy countries like ours. You can see it already in southern Europe and North Africa. Alas MSM are also corrupted by vested interests and sycophant politicians. We need leaders rather than just the sycophant politicians like never before. Come the the time cometh the woman, leaders lead sycophants follow ratings and love power for it's own sake. Learn to grow food, organic, veganic, is my advice, teach your children it might save your families lives.

[@Alex-g1f5s]

What I don't understand is weather our political leaders REALLY are as ignorant of the situation as they seem.

[@RIPdBOON]

Because it won't affect them (theoretically speaking), so they don't care.

[@9squares]

They are willfully blind as is much of the educated world. They have the facts but choose to ignore the evidence. So, to answer your question, YES!

[@flyfftreasure]

You don't get reelected by speaking harsh truths. And our dear politician are part of the capitalistic paradigm with endless growth and bound by it's restriction as much as the rest of us. Yes some of them suck more than others, but the inertia towards collapse is pulling all of us in the same direction.

[@9squares]

@@flyfftreasure Well said. This means the system is broken. It is counterproductive if the goal is continued existence. We are collectively deluding ourselves over the cliff, both leaders and the the rest of us alike.

[@em945]

Where I live, the politicians have made some excellent environmental zoning laws. It is the population that break them and practice very poor habits. I think the biggest problem is general population.

[@paulscousedownie]

I feel that we humans sometimes can’t face up to reality. It’s as if we’re on a canoe drifting down a river towards the Niagara Falls. We know we’re getting close to the precipice, but we just can’t accept the danger we’re in! We’re numb to it!

[@michaelwebber9036]

There are too many wars and too many other issues for "us" to worry this As a spiecies we are only concerned about what's directly infont of us, you can't even get many people to save for retirement

[@markprice3200]

Thank you Peter for sharing this man's wisdom and insight on climate change. He is correct the climate is changing faster and faster. I have farmed for sixty years and the changes I see on my farm are disasters for farming which means for all mankind . God bless and God help us. Amen 🙏

[@Andy-wn6wm]

Your imaginary friend won't be much help.

[@earthsystem]

God bless you mark, I too pray, ignore the troll. it must be terrifying watching your farm environment go downhill. I moved back to an agricultural town I grew up in and there's no insects anymore. Nobody notices.!!! There's hardly any bird flocks, mostly small family bands. It's like we're living among hypnotized people, please, God wake up these people. It's like a bad science fiction movie, I engage people in this agricultural town, and most just can't be moved to awareness!!

[@gregwilvert]

Throughout my life, those who invoke god have tended to be hostile towards science and facts about the natural world. Thus, many people who are open to a video like this one find mention of gawd annoying.

[@Al-cynic]

Wrote essays on this in 1992 at Uni and have been fretting ever since. Does that trend line account for 'feedback'? Tropical Wetland out gassing, Permafrost thaw, AMOC shutdown, loss of snow Albedo the 'remotely possible' [?] Clathrate gun going off, and who knows what else? I can't care anymore, because I cannot see an economic, nor a political, solution.

[@Stupidityindex]

The Antarctic Sea ice build anomaly is enough for me.

[@EmeraldView]

What's that?

[@antonioguanimez3464]

So what do we do now?

[@gsnyder2007]

Besides the obvious (eg. Vote for political leaders open to making the changes we need), what other groups would you recommend I join or support? I’m eager to do more but am unsure where my time and effort would have the greatest effect? Thanks for any ideas or recommendations

[@MrCSutton]

Leave your smartphone at home and go out into your local area. See if you can find evidence of man made adverse effects on the local climate without using the Internet. You won't be able to, because there aren't any. Then come home and stop worrying. You don't need to do anything else. The "climate crisis" only exists in cyberspace. Out here in reality, everything is normal.

[@gsnyder2007]

@@MrCSutton well, funny you should suggest that. In Jan/Feb I rode my bicycle around the whole of Florida (about 1600 miles of riding). I started in Pensacola and rode through the panhandle, down Gulf coast to Venice, across to the Atlantic side and back up. What did I observe? Massive flooding in northern Florida which locals told me they hadn’t seen before. Lots of beach erosion and high wind events (which locals there said was very unusual). Later, in May, I was in Miami near KeyBiscayne helping a buddy with his live-a-board sailing cat. The water temperature there were off the charts and the heat wave we had was quite impressive. Jumping into the ocean felt like jumping in a bathtub of hot water. Apparently these high temps have already killed most of the coral in these regions. Oh yeah, I spoke to people in Florida who said that property insurance there has skyrocketed (if you can even get it). And that’s all due to climate change. So don’t try to give me your lame denialism crap.

[@gsnyder2007]

@@MrCSutton also, I live in the Boston area. We haven’t had significant snow for years, we are experiencing many more 90+ degree days than ever before. So, get your head out of your behind. you are the one who needs to get outside more

[@gsnyder2007]

@@MrCSutton Funny you should say that. I spent Jan/Feb (2024) riding my bicycle around Florida (about 1600 miles of riding), wild camping mostly in wilderness management areas. I witnessed first-hand massive flooding in the Econfina River watershed, west of Perry FL. I asked local Floridians if this was typical for this time of year. One man said he had lived there since 1980 and never saw anything like it. I met him cause he came to use the bathroom at the local convenience store I happened to be in. He said his home septic system was under water, in fact he said his whole neighborhood had been flooded. As I proceeded around Florida I spoke to a number of residents who said their property insurance had skyrocketed due to the increased frequency and intensity of flooding and extreme weather incidents. My mother has a small farm in central KY. In recent years they have begun to get high wind events and tornadoes in ways that is very un-typical for that region where I grew up. Many of her trees have been knocked down as a result of these high wind, intense rain events. They have also had pretty severe drought and flooding. Is that first-hand enough for ya?

[@Naheenmather]

Truth is the real religion is in listening and to be guided by nature. We have screwed ourselves. Evil does exist

[@nsbd90now]

We've met the devil and he is us.

[@volkerengels5298]

Yes ""evil"" does exist - but a spade is a spade -> "Stupidity" - is the correct term. It's just not so glamorous as huuhu ""evil"" LOL

[@nsbd90now]

@@volkerengels5298 Do a search for "Dietrich Bonhoeffer On Stupidity". It is a short essay he wrote while imprisoned by the Nazis. There are also some videos about it here on youtube. He is talking about something independent of education and intelligence-- almost like a force of nature.

[@houmm08]

Peter C's excellent channel has

[@donniemoder1466]

We are moving quite fast toward a cost of living crisis. And all a cost of living crisis is, is an grand super overshoot situation coming to fruition, the payback phase, where we notice that we have used up the resources far beyond our ability to replace them and then there is a mad scramble for the bits and pieces left and we create a world we literally cannot live in.

[@theotherandrew5540]

Absolutely correct to raise the absence of political will. There are obvious technical solutions to diminish atmospheric CO2, but they require politicians to admit the truth, stop appeasing big oil & coal and take bold political decisions.

[@leviahimsa]

Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations FAO Animal agriculture uses 83% of global farmland and only provides 18% of global calories. When we switch to a plant based food system, we can restore/reforest 76% of global farmland AND be able to feed all humans. -journal Science

[@Azamat421]

That’s wrong

[@theadventurousgeezer]

Yes! Yes! Thank you for this! The one most important thing that any individual can do to combat climate change is simply going vegan. I've been eating a vegan diet for 12 years now. It's actually very easy. And just last year I rode a bicycle across the United States at the age of 65 while on a vegan diet. Do it for your health, do it for the environment, and do it for the animals. There is just no excuse not to!

[@leviahimsa]

@@Azamat421 How do you know that?

[@leviahimsa]

@@theadventurousgeezer Niceeee! I'm sure you're way healthier than all your omnivorous peers! 💪 The only diet ever scientifically shown to reverse our leading cause of human death (Cardiovascular Disease kills 33% of humans), with 99.4% success, is a *Whole Food Plant Based* diet. -Esselstyn, journal Family Practice Risk of death from cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, infections, kidney disease, liver disease and lung disease all increase with the amount of meat consumed. - National Cancer Institute My father in law just died at 56 from heart disease. My family told him to stop killing others and eating them. 🤷‍♂️

[@m.chumakov1033]

So have you guys switched to insect proteins?

[@chutechi]

Not explored issue of planetary hospice: what would be the best policies is we all agreed its too late?

[@LivingNow678]

In the contest where we're living now the people will realise that is too late with the last breath 😮

[@SamWilkinsonn]

At the beginning of the video you stated that '1990 was the first major report on climate change'. Was MITs 1972 study 'the limits to growth' not a major study? Due to overshoot, with our current technology we actually rely on fossil fuels just to prevent mass famine and societal collapse. You claim we're making a choice to fail, it's not a choice, we're locked in to our path of self destruction. We can reduce the amount used sure, but no way near enough to even stand a slim chance of preventing extinction. Our chance to act was decades ago, we're far too late now.

[@greenhearted8453]

True, but it wasn't a "climate change" report per se.

[@DrSmooth2000]

​@@greenhearted8453 people do conflate Green issues and Climate and politico-economics. When for sake of logic are disentangleable

[@SamWilkinsonn]

@@greenhearted8453 You're right, while the report did anticipate the potential for the world’s economy to shift to cleaner sources of energy, it did not focus solely on climate change. It was more about the broader concept of sustainability and the limits of our planet’s resources. However, the principles it discussed are relevant to today’s discussions on climate change and sustainable development

[@SamWilkinsonn]

@@DrSmooth2000 'When for sake of logic are disentangleable' who are you trying to impress? It doesn't even make sense, and disentangleable isn't even a word. Edit: sorry about the attitude I feel bad now

[@Graywilde]

We're well past hope. All that will be left before too long is revenge.

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

there is something we can do and that is solar geoengineering. seriously what have we got to lose? we should be advocating for it

[@patricialongo5870]

We're toast unless we take the helm away from those who have it.

[@SineEyed]

It doesn't matter who's in charge. There's no way to get literally everybody to upend their way of life in exchange for pre industrial revolution lifestyle. As if everyone will start making their own clothes, growing their own food, traveling no where ever again. To think this would happen is insane..

[@dbadagna]

On which date was this recorded?

[@bearsbreeches]

The planet will survive, changed but recovering. Home Sapiens numbers will be reduced but no bad thing.

[@grenenthomas8115]

Robert Charles Wilson in a book about the future called this time "The Dithering".

[@woodysdrums8083]

The IPC states that if all carbon emissions were to stop it would not halt the current warming.

[@Garrison169]

If emissions are stopped, the aerosol masking effect will collapse within weeks, causing an abrupt temperature rise.

[@teamn2idotcom]

Clear & sobering analysis, however feel you will be even more effective if you underscore just how bad societal collapse will be (mass famine, unprecedented migration of 100s of millions, financial collapse, plague & societal breakdown) and how soon it may occur given our fragile system.

[@CaresseTaVie]

I drive me mad to see people keep on with their life either because they are not aware, or just because they don't know what to do and are just doing... nothing...

[@bearsbreeches]

It hasn't happened for 32 years it's not going to happen now! We just like to toddle along as if everything is alright. I know the frog in hot water is apocryphal but that's how I see our behaviour

[@OldJackWolf]

We're in a damn big heap of trouble.

[@ardalla535]

And on top of all that he mentions, we will have to deal with a world population of 11-12B and all that implies. So it's much worse than even Carter describes. It's not just emissions, it's total environmental impact of everything we are doing wrong at present.

[@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ]

And as regions become ever-more uninhabitable they'll be concentrated into the habitable bands (mass migration).

[@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate]

@@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ we'll have to do solar geoengineering its as simple as that. by the way i have heard its basically not true that entire populations will move north. most wont have the money to even attempt that so they'll die. but in any case we will do solar geoengineering. its being taken more seriously now than ever before. and all the evidence suggests it'll take the worst impacts off of climate change. i think we will probably wait until climate change gets to be totally intolerable before we do it but im certain we'll do it.

[@cjsligojones5101]

we are the frog in the heating pot being told to climb out and almost everyone is saying "well it's nice and warm in here". We're done.

[@paulborneo7535]

I cut my carbon use by 80% by doing 5 things: Small apartment, no car, no clothes dryer, no meat, no buying what I don't need. You can do this.

[@Restoredtofull]

Thank you

[@SpeedyCorky]

did you have a child?

[@DoseofTruth]

Why, no need every bit that you don't contribute industrial civilization Makes up the difference. There is already a paper on this. Sorry you can't make one difference and neither can everyone you know combined. It's the equivalent of virtue signaling to think otherwise now that you know this information

[@Garrison169]

You might as well enjoy what you can, while you can. You will not make a difference.

[@paulborneo7535]

@@Garrison169 Point is life can be enjoyed without harming the future.

[@phlanxsmurf]

This kind if feels like a “sorry me and my generation destroyed the planet and are still actively taking any hope of a future you wished for”. The problem is, pointing out the problem you caused, while still holding the weapon you used, to everyone around you, is pointless unless you also put the weapon away. Which you aren’t doing.

[@PoeLemic]

Lot of people are gonna die, and it really scares me. Even if I can move to higher locations, I know (or hope) that people will be in third worlds and not any people that I know. It's coming.

[@mahartma]

Still doesn't spell out what needs to be done, only in the abstract. Air conditioning banned worldwide, patchy power delivery depending on wind/sun, no personal cars, air travel and international shipping gone, most electronics and plastics gone, concrete and fertilizer production cut by 80+%

[@DrSmooth2000]

Believe aircon was added as a human right in last IPCC or cop document

[@michaelmielke3153]

YES

[@reverands571]

In my mind, where we are is not stable. For this level of CO2, we've locked in 4°C of warming.

[@DrSmooth2000]

Explain your work?

[@SpeedyCorky]

@@DrSmooth2000 the current co2 levels have enough heat baked into the situation, to cause the methane in the permafrost to be released, causing drastic fast paced warming, which will trigger everything else with it.

[@DrSmooth2000]

@@SpeedyCorky indeed possible. Duration is issue. Methane degrades to CO2 guess oddly not seen a calculation of all the near surface methane related and converted. Barring the PETM style Runaway then given decade lifespan much will be converted before 'last' of the permafrost exhales and African wetlands finish Digesting backlog of formerly dry dead vegetative matter

[@evilryutaropro]

@@DrSmooth2000James Hansen’s latest paper talks about the CO2e of all greenhouse gases in the atmosphere putting us at 4.8 +/- 1.2 degrees C iirc. The warming in the pipeline is gonna be BRUTAL long term. 3-4 this century is a nightmare but the warming in later centuries is something else

[@reverands571]

@@DrSmooth2000 In addition, if you view the temp graphs over geologic time, the Earth spends 80% of it's time at 10°C (Hothouse Earth).

[@SteffiReitsch]

3/4 of humans believe in god(s) and devil(s) and reject science. How do you expect them to believe any of this and sacrifice? WE'RE DOOMED. I feel sorry for the animals.

[@Harambe2016]

Very well said Kevin , thnx, Peter

[@A-SETband]

Thank you

[@roberthornack1692]

The global average is already 2.6c. Stop with the hopium! It's over! Live for the moment & enjoy what's left, & give thanks to our abused, nurturing Mother as we pay our last respects.

[@LivingNow678]

Yah simple and clear Amen

[@GregoryJWalters]

Super! Sums affairs succinctly! Tnx

[@GeaVox]

Actually, I knew about Global Warming in 1982! And the Stockholm Conferene was in 1972!

[@PikesCore24]

I agree with almost everything, except your empahsis on 'equity'. You say to those who are more fortunate, "we have nice places to live, We have the benefit of easy travel. So for us life is good; life is quite rosy." The implication is that others will suffer. I question this: No matter where you live, no matter how much money you have in the bank, I don't think anyone can assume they are going to be immune to the consequences of warming. I would argue that in a place like the US, global warming is going to be the great equalizer. When the power grid goes down, the rich and poor alike will be join in a Hobbesian state.

[@desmondrobinson169]

Heading in audio headed on banner?

[@tinoyb9294]

Aerosol masking effect?

[@LivingNow678]

Guy mc Pherson loves this

[@Garrison169]

@@LivingNow678 Aerosol masking is ignored by most, but it will collapse and cause rapid global warming if we stop burning oil and coal.

[@LivingNow678]

@@Garrison169 A context as a Climate Change has thousands and thousands of variables, most are talking only about CO2 !!! 😲🙂✋

[@Garrison169]

@@LivingNow678 When scientists talk to the public, they concentrate on one or two of the main drivers of climate change.

[@LivingNow678]

@@Garrison169 Yes and when politic and financial mafia push the main steam to talk only in one science way: the CO2 emissions; the game is over No more debate.

[@ChrisGerling]

And All the bunnies in the field died.

[@elsajohnson6663]

Well said!

[@NoidoDev]

Humans are more flexible, some of us are gonna make it. So it's just gonna be some filter, I hope.

[@PoeLemic]

Lot of people are gonna die, and it really scares me. Even if I can move to higher locations, I know (or hope) that people will be in third worlds and not any people that I know.

[@richardchadburn5541]

The problem is not your average person it's big business, polluting is cheaper than ethical management.

[@tomjacobson7623]

Nah, the problem actually IS your average person. Your average person could stop supporting big business and could stop using any fossil fuels whatsoever. But since this would put their standard of living back to what it was in the 1700's, they will never do this (when I say your average person, I mean ME, YOU, and virtually every other person on the planet with very few exceptions.) Blaming big business simply shifts the blame from all the people who don't want to take a good hard look in the mirror.

[@timeenoughforart]

You can not expect your average person to redesign a lifestyle hundreds of years in the making. You can not expect your average person to turn against every social norm. An individual is powerless in the face of this. Half the stuff we should do is illegal. On the flip side you can't expect big business to do it either. It's not how we made them. So we need different laws, economic structures, social organizations. Decreasing speed limits to 35mph would encourage light weight cheap electric vehicles. Consider simply changing the legal mandate that corporations exist to create profit for their share holders. I don't even know where to begin with social organizations. Maybe it is as simple as opening people centers to meet, drink coffee, play pool, dance, have local art shows. Damn life has to be more than work, produce, consume.

[@DoseofTruth]

​@tomjacobson7623 no, its not. Studies been out for over two years. If industry wanted to halt it could. Our demand is only an excuse to continue

[@tomjacobson7623]

@@DoseofTruth"Our demand is only an excuse to continue." Another fine example of liberal logic. You guys will say anything to get out of having to take responsibility yourselves. And as for your "studies been out," I would trust a liberal's findings on homelessness about as much as I would trust a conservatives findings on climate change.

[@camilleodonoghue3322]

According to Take the Jump (a social movement supporting avge people to reduce their climate footprint) in history societal change has occurred when 24% of the population have adopted new thinking. It's a really specific percentage. So the avge person does matter - massively. Be part of that 24%, not the 76% who just follow.

[@sparky2008sparky]

The way science and engineering arrives at a conclusion is to provide proof that the hypothesis is true. 1. Correlation is not necessarily causation. 2. There are changes that occurred (covid lockdown for example) that may have reduced emissions. What effect did it have on the climate/global temps? Was there any effect? What metrics will be evaluated that will show the move to all electric vehicles (for ex) actually reduced ‘warming’ or ‘climate change’. What if there is no effect? Science/engineering is not just about making changes to make everyone “feel good”. It’s not about emotions.

[@crisismanagement]

People are finding out that what they've trusted in is falling apart. The treacherous heart of man, penned by Jeremiah, will have us believe that life will go on by seeding other planets.

[@erstwhile3793]

The surreal thing is how few people have any idea what climate change actually means, or that the timescale of severe consequences has been drawing exponentially closer over the last couple decades. If I mention climate change in conversation, only one person of my acquaintance hears “catastrophic “ or “global societal collapse”. Everyone else hears a phrase from news sound bites that may have something to do with hot summers and cat 5 storms in the south of the U.S. Not much directly to do with them, however. They have no comment, because no thoughts, on climate change. They don’t know they’re probably living out the last decade of western plenty or continuity.

[@critiqueofthegothgf]

I love Anderson because of how explicitly wary of the magical technologies integrated in our models that operate within broad assumptions to function. It's absolutely batshit that the IPCC has included BECCS, DAC/CDR, in emissions reduction pathways as if it's an inevitability and not a quantum leap in terms of the technological progress needed to implement said technology at scale. it's absurd

[@rhene1548]

Can you discuss the effect breaking the nitrogen bond had back in the early 1900s? chemical fertilizing, the ecological system...

[@Praylak]

I like Kevin, but its obvious by now what's gonna happen. The IEA report I read in September of last year shows 2024 will be the largest development in fossil fuels we've seen to date. We have to start thinking about our families now, especially if you have younger kids. I think the first horsemen with be food prices, so you are gonna need lots of money, or your own farm. The poor will starve, like they are now but much worse. Insurance company bankruptcies will follow. Then crime will become dominate. All this before the glaciers are gone, a few inches of sea level rise, or the resource wars sure to come.

[@andria3a]

No Action? What should "we" all be doing?

[@freeheeler09]

Climate change is a very serious problem. But is is just one symptom of the far larger and more multifaceted problem of human overpopulation.

[@donniemoder1466]

It has not been a choice to fail, more like ignoring the problem altogether. Taking no action. If we choose to succeed we still then need to take action and attempt to succeed, which frankly is beyond our human nature.

[@dodiewallace41]

If we're serious about reducing dependence on hydrocarbons for energy, we better get cracking building a buttload of the only method of energy production available that is capable of making a meaningful dent. Nuclear power.

[@gregorymegbert9086]

Have you watched yourself from 2015 or so?? Its nice to see your on the same page as reality now

[@EmeraldView]

I'm afraid it's too late. I'm sorry. Human nature got us.

[@gordonlawson2334]

To me the goal should be, for science that is, not survival but thriving by gaining more control over the environment. They’ve already stated that we are exerting mindless control.

[@giancarlopellizzari1751]

We are doomed.

[@LivingNow678]

Also in Hiroshima they were ...

[@titussteenhuisen8864]

The first report came out in 1976 I read four of these report books by 1981

[@karih9592]

This is not about leaders and elite people. This is about you and me. Can you see what is coming over the horizon? Can you prepare? Look for the Great Waves of change.

[@DavidJones-kz6ik]

Welp, stupidity can't last forever, the game had to end sometime. Thanks for playing!

[@Biscuit9891]

this is great news! why save ourselves?

[@jimthain8777]

Most humans are not our leaders, yet it is the actions, or the lack of action of those billions of people that will decide our fate. Every single thing I buy, or do not buy makes a small difference. Everything I do, or don't do, makes a small difference. I am but one of billions, but if billions do the same things I do, buy or don't buy the same things I do, that creates massive change. If every human did just one little thing to cut their own carbon dioxide just a little bit the cumulative effect of billions doing so would shock the world.

[@camilleodonoghue3322]

Exactly!! Why wait for someone to tell you what to do? We know what needs doing - let's get on with it ❤

[@brianwheeldon4643]

Thanks Kevin. I agree wholeheartedly. I realised the heating was underway 35 and more years ago. Your explanations and warnings have been key. They have not been heeded. Life globally is paying the price, the poorest amongst us along with animals suffer the most and first. Still we continue to disregard the horrific consequences of our actions.

[@daniellebcooper7160]

is there any concrete evidence of the exact effect man has had on the climate?.

[@gordonlawson2334]

30 years and I’ve waited with baited breath to see the correlation coefficient data. By regions and with atmosphere stratification of CO2 levels.

[@braeburn2333]

Its funny to me how, even the most learned think that a collapse of society, (what they really mean is industrial society), is a bad thing. They say things like climate change may cause the collapse of society. Well, I think they don't really get it. The collapse of complex industrial society is exactly what we need. The reason why we are in this mess is because of the industrial experiment. When did the carbon start to rise? At the beginning of the industrial system. We are almost all consumers of lots and lots of industrially made stuff, from food to Keurig coffee machines to complicated tesla cars. We almost all use copious amounts of fossil fuel. If we all lived the way our great grandparents did instead, we would have happier, healthier, more satisfying lives, because they did for the most part. Their ecological footprint was much smaller than modern Westerners. There are ways of living more comfortably than our ancestors while consuming only as much as they did. They didn't know about insulation, or composting, or food forest, or rocket mass heaters. We do. We know how to build soil without any need for the industrial system. Our ancestors only knew how to destroy the soil. Instead of hoping that the root cause of climate change sticks around for another 100 years, why not help people find and build low cost, low consumption lifestyles so that more and more people can abandon the industrial system. Climate change will take out the root problem if we don't. The industrial system can not last. Its crumbling as I write this. Whether you leave the industrial system to find and build a simpler, more self suficient and locally sustainable life, or wait till the industrial system collapses so that chance chooses your next life, it will happen. If you don't know what is the root cause of climate change, you can speak about it till the cows come home and it won't do any good. You will always be leading people back to the same lifestyle which caused this problem. The high consumption, highly globalized, fossil fuel powered, industrial consumer based lifestyle is what you will be promoting. Ive made the transition to a simpler lifestyle. I've reduced my ecological footprint by 80% and my expenses by more than that. My life has never been more comfortable, stress free, and self sufficient as it is now. The industrial system is high stress, highly insecure, and very unhealthy for you and the planet. Most people in the industrial system are debt slaves. There are a milion alternative lifestyles other than the one we are all raised to live. Most have a much lower ecological footprint than the way the "developed" world lives. Many of these lifestyles are superior to the industrial consumer based lifestyle.

[@LivingNow678]

As has said a friend of mine years ago; Mother Nature will clean up what man has done

[@LivingNow678]

the same friend Freddie mcCoy dit Ahmed Sofi in the 1970 came to say: NOW a NEW way TESTBAND Before it's too late ... But we preferred the consumer society .... Good luck to all of us 💫🌎🎶👃🪷👌❣️🔮🙏👍

[@terencefield3204]

I see that JPMorgan, Blackrock and PIMCO have abandoned the climate investor group.You. Cannot overstate the negative impact on significant action to slow climate change that this abandonment implies.

[@kated3165]

If I were to have kids now I could find myself with grandkids 25+ years from now... and honestly I would be terrified about their future.