Prof. Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones: 'Locating the Women of Achaemenid Persia'

[@Golshanim]

My grandmothers, Aunts, Cousin’s, wife, daughter, nieces are all Iranian and are all amazing talented strong human beings. Without exception superior to most men I meet in Iran. Even at work the best managers and team workers were mostly women in Iran. The future of Iran is in their hands and there is none better. Also I got a good business idea from this talk. Create a unisex Persian court garment with the patterns and colours we see on the Persian immortal motifs. It looks really comfortable.

[@Lady_Aylar]

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[@savantianprince]

Love ancient history especially the Achenenid Persia.

[@maryb6074]

If you consider that at that time women didn't consider even citizen in Greece and Rome. Then you will agree that Persian were really ahead of their time.

[@anotherwesley7661]

41:59 I wouldn't call her Atossa either, I hardly know 'er! I'm sorry I'm so sorry. Wonderful lecture, extremely happy to see people talking about gender ambiguities in antiquity, and will definitely keep an eye out for the new book on Esther in the Achaemenid court.

[@maryb6074]

Possibly the reason we don't see many women status in Iran in Persepolis is that after Alexander and Arab Muslim invasion, they have been destroyed.

[@Kringlebeast]

Fascinating lecture

[@whosthis1828]

There is absolutely a place for this artist. Blending historical mythological and modern culture is essential to human development.

[@myazdanian]

Very presentation. Thank you. Only as far as I know, Mandana was Cyrus mother. Her wife name was, I think, Kasandra or Atoosa

[@Golshanim]

Majid Yazdanian Atossa was Cyrus Daughter. Mandana his mother was a Mede, Kassandra his wife was an Elamite.

[@MumtazMahal_Persia_Iran]

@@Golshanim No, Cassandane, the wife of Cyrus the Great was Persian.

[@MumtazMahal_Persia_Iran]

Cassandane, the wife of Cyrus the Great was Persian. Cyrus the Great loved her.

[@MumtazMahal_Persia_Iran]

And Atossa was the daughter of Cyrus the Great, and she was the wife of Darius the Great, and the mother of Xerxes the Great.

[@williamkuhns2387]

Has forensic facial reconstruction of ancient Persian crania been done to get a glimpse of their features?

[@RogTyddewi]

My understanding is that no skeletons from the relevant period have been found in the archaeological record to date, so this can't be done.

[@rahajune]

The faces of people depicted on Persepolis walls are so similar to today’s ppl of Iran.

[@bahpah8557]

Do you guys also consult with scholars in Iran when you research about Iranians? They are by far the best analyzers of Aryan/Iranian culture, language, .... I know some of them and they have super original theories based on plethora of evidence that I have heard from no western scholars. Good luck anyways.

[@Lady_Aylar]

Would u be so kind to link them if possible. Merci

[@mahlarahimi3008]

Mandan is his mother name and his wife name is Kasandan

[@mikeyohanna1197]

If anyone has any question on what color the ancient Persians are just look at the walls of the palace of susa

[@charliejjrome]

Why does Professor Lloyd Llewellyn Jones use his academic title to advertise his KZbin channel? We just don't do that in serious academia. It's a little bit sad, and suggests both insecurity and inflated ego. A curious mix...

[@skeingamepodcast5993]

hahaha right!?

[@lloydllewelyn-jones7249]

Unnecessary. I made an full apology. I own my mistakes. Do you?

[@ArtemisArsha]

46:53 all Iranian archeologists agree that this specific depiction is a woman and not a Eunuch. You mentioned the no bias in the dresses and the Persian language not having gendered pronouns indicates the same that Iranians never had any intention of segregating women. You are a professor of ancient Iranian history yet you mispronounced every single name in this documentary even the most famous kings Cyrus (Kurosh) and Darius (Dariush) the greats. You show photos of women in chador which in front of Persepolis to say an Iranian artist is wrong about how he depicts actual Iranian culture? Don’t you think if he was wrong his artwork wouldn’t be so popular among Iranians? Hopefully more Iranians publish about these issues with the grip of Islamic Republic loosening on our society so people like you wouldn’t represent our culture so badly mis informed.

[@mahlarahimi3008]

Dear professor Iranian people never had slave or even slave queen

[@scharamkhani5781]

Dear Professor, I have not read or heard anywhere that the Persian Empire had slaves.

[@moejaminia9595]

Iranian never slaved anybody and then never had slave Queens Kings or regular people you are very very wrong sir

[@ladyterrapin1421]

Dude, every society including our own had slaves, it's just something that happened in human history

[@zibacherzad2844]

@@ladyterrapin1421Persian religion forbade slavery, as far as I know. They did have them later on during following dynasties. For Zoroastrian faith you were supposed to be paid for your work. I guess they could have paid their slaves but never heard of slaves in ancient Iran.

[@matthewv4086]

No gender in clothing! Maybe that's why Persians don't have pronoun for male or female, as it is in English.

[@issith7340]

Hiw more absurd a speech can be! I really can’t get , even the subject of this speech 🦜