Prof RV I How we change religions but not Castes/ Sects

[@sheeteshaswal]

Prof RV once said that. "Caste is primary, religion is what people take up in their life."

[@madhukark8133]

Thanks for bringing back Fridays with Prof RV🙏🙏🙏 Very good session We can define sanatanis under single umbrella with common basic principles

[@nebraskacouger]

Prof RV is a gem, a rare one. Thank you PGURUS

[@praveenModlier]

Congratulations on your steady growth. I am yet to formally connect with your channel. Your guests are articulate, knowledgeable and convey message well.

[@saar6044]

Prof RV is one of our best minds and we are lucky to hear him on pgurus.thanks to sree for that

[@VijeDerm]

Prof RV analysis will be the best and till date there is no such beautiful interpretation of caste has been done and we need more to be clear as to where we stand 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@sheeteshaswal]

It has a 15% like-to-view ratio which is much higher than average...means the content and quality of discussion on this video is very good.

[@josephjohn2095]

Tku Prof.RV for your brilliant analysis. Your crystal analysis of topics is always enlightening 🙏🙏🙏

[@porchelviramr4404]

Great video. Thank you Prof. RV and Sree Anna for this great insightful session. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@PGurus1]

Our pleasure!

[@sharmilachoudhuri6753]

I missed on the D-Day, but I watched later. I will never miss. Great job 👍👍

[@deepaksudheendra9664]

Always delighted to listen to R V sir

[@rameshnair4346]

wonderful , insightful

[@chaitanyatuckley4666]

Sree ji, it was a pleasure watching you on Jaipur Dialogues. Mr. Sanjay Dixit can give a long lecture on caste divisions in Islam. Also, do contact a channel "Amana and Khalid". They are Pasmanda (lower caste Muslims) themselves and can share their plight.

[@saravanankeerthy]

I saw in bengaluru airport Untouchability in MNC FAST FOOD chain that two ovens one for vegetarians and one for non vegetarians…..and realised untouchability comes from food not among caste sects……

[@sgs-g9g]

Thanks

[@rshas3]

Professor provides an excellent overview of the fault-lines that exist in every religion. The various denominations in Abrahamic religions is based on Class and belief system. Class is usually based on ethnicity. Within a class there is differentiation based on a person’s standing in their community and economic status. This is prevalent in every religion including Hinduism. Hinduism however has the social evil of caste. Which gets overlaid on the religion. It has its roots in the Varna system, which got institutionalised by the British to caste which was deemed hereditary. The Govt of Bharat adopted this and it has been codified as SC, OBC etc. The time has come to obliterate the caste system. This is easier said than done, since caste is ingrained in Hindus. To them I say, caste is not part of Sanatana Dharma, Varna is. Furthermore Varna is an occupational classification and is not hereditary. If a person wishes to cling to the Varna system, I say anyone who works for someone else and receives a pay check, except a soldier is.SHUDRA. On the other hand if people are prepared to junk the traditional four classifications of Varna, then we have numerous classifications such as Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer, Labourer etc. To all those people who consider themselves Brahmins, or Upper Caste, who are working for a living, I say you are all SHUDRAs

[@tuntunlove]

Great conversation.

[@mokaravindra2810]

Socio,economic and psychological status of converts from Hinduism are far far better than who choose to remain in Hinduism.

[@pannvalan3350]

In USA, many old churches are getting sold and converted to commercial buildings.

[@mahadevjalem818]

The question of religion comes down to how the different groups vote. The left in India seems to cooperate with the anti-Hindu groups.

[@marieandrews788]

02.50. For thousands of years , the sanathanam/ manusmriti had divided the people into four gradational castes which has got ingrained in the psyche of the people . Caste is a pestilence of sanathanam . Brahmins were the earliest converts to Christianity and they were the pioneers who translated the Bible and the hymns into the vernacular. They were heavily sanskritised . Christianity preaches brotherhood of man , love of your neighbour mercy for the weak and downtrodden. In spite of that , when people convert to Christianity, the caste holds to them like Vikram's Beital !

[@notime4350]

Wow. I was just going to sit for a few minutes but the hour just flew by! I differ a little with Prof RV about Hinduism not being a congregating religion though.. in comparison to the foreign religions who have a strict curriculum and a single book, etc. I definitely agree, however, in comparison to no one, we do congregate on many occasions ... on Purnima, for example ... around figures like Sadhguru, Sri Sri, .. Osho who have their daily or weekly meetings ... Mahashivrathri. It's not the entire population but the local temple is important to many Hindus and they have their own calendar of visiting gurus, musicians, etc.. I think the very existence of temples shows that we are a congregating religion but one with so much flexibility that in this day and age it seems debatable that we care to meet each other, or leaders of our community, but we do.

[@humaneffortwins5570]

Christians are more of subscription based religion. They will chase absentees in church religiously to collect subscription. 99.9% people go there and pay because otherwise these people will deny marriages and burial etc. Ask 10 christians what they believe, you will get 10 answer, means they are also dump. Hinduism is much free There are fights going on in christian EVERY congregations and they will vanish on its own in another 100 years. you can see this in entire Europe. The moment Hinduism go in to the congregation religion that will also vanish. I like ek onkar, but I really doubt whether sikhism today follow that mool mantra.

[@JaiAdiShankaracharya]

Pls translate this pgm in hindi and other local languages as grassroots people,out vulnerable to conversion, will understand this 🙏

[@sudhamuralidharan6574]

Once conversion takes place bring them under general category

[@prabhakaranm9243]

Super sir 🙏

[@krishnamurthyhunagund1049]

Very wisw words from Prof.RV

[@athakkarutube009]

Thanks!

[@mahadevjalem818]

Appropriation of local customs and practices is a very insidious form of conversion.

[@marieandrews788]

Hindu is a term given by the British rulers to encompass a vastly diffused and divergent conglomerate of worshipping practitioners .

[@markjohnson543]

Very interesting and informative as always. Professor RV has broad knowledge but I would like to offer one correction. Baha'is do not consider themselves to be Muslims. They consider themselves to be Baha'is. However, they do recognize the prophet Mohammed as a true prophet of God, and historically, Baha'i grew out of Muslim Iran. They also recognize the Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, and others in addition to Mohammed.. They are universalists of a sort. They believe in their own prophet, Bahaullah, who offered the latest update to religion. This is unacceptable to Muslim authorities who consider them as apostates. In Iran, they have been heavily persecuted.

[@uradhai]

Isnt Baha’i basically Zoroastrians?

[@markjohnson543]

@@uradhai No. Both originated in Iran, but Zoroaster was an ancient prophet of many thousands of years ago. Baha'i is a relatively new religion that originated in the 19th century. Baha'is believe in multiple prophets leading up to their own Bahaullah, who started the Baha'i religion. So their idea is that in each age a prophet comes and teaches the people and once they get that, a new one appears. Zoroaster is accepted by them as one of the prophets, but there have ben many since his time. It is rather like grades in school, with humanity advancing slowly to higher knowledge, and the prophets are the teachers at each of the grade levels. In Baha'i the prophets come from all different religions. They believe the future will bring further prophets, so Bahaullah is not the last. Within Islam, Mohammed is clearly the 'seal of the prophets', or last of the prophets, so they believe no more prophets will follow him. So the idea that there is yet another prophet after Mohammed is blasphemy to traditional Muslims and it is the reason why Bahai's are so heavily persecuted in Iran.

[@basantjayant9932]

Hyderabad hindu dalit married a muslim girl with her consent yeterday killed by muslim family. remember two years ago one bengali msulim was doing love jehad with hindu girl in rajasthan was killed by hindu family...it became international news....that time.....momatta kejruddin diggy went to his home and gave 2 crore, jamiat i ulema gave him 1 crore NDTV PRINT wire quint ran story for 100 days. it was also covered in washington post. swara bhaskar and jnu AMU Jamia gang was overactive.........but no one is talking about hindu dalit killed yesterday... even bhim army is silent ........ that is sikularism...that what this nation is suffering since 1947......dirty cancer of appeasement. even the dead are not spared by nehruwaad

[@pannvalan3350]

Hindu people congregate in large numbers, even at the time of local temple festivals.

[@ravisadasivan3711]

Honour killings do happen in inter caste marriages inspite of both parties being Hindu.

[@mannk7970]

Honor killings happen in same caste marriage if class is different

[@lakshmisimhan3379]

2710 on Ganesh Puja......BTW, Indonesian 20,000 rupiah note has Ganesha picture. Even India doesn't have God's pictures in currency notes.

[@nareshbandari9806]

Reservation is in education, that is real reason

[@sudarshango]

Just a thought about reservations. Current percentages of reservation in college admissions in TN should be applicable to MNCs (> 51% foreign ownership companies) with upto 100% to reserved categories and no open quota. The minuscule open quota may be assigned to SC/ST. They should leave Indians owned large companies alone.

[@niraj2020]

Like subscription and membership fee now Hindus converting to Islam and Christianity should charge annual premium which goes to millions dollars or crores of rupees according to their status. Now onwards all converters must demand high premium per mo th, per annuam, per day basis and charge accordingly. Similarly from joining pseudo secular parties, left, woke parties. All premium rate should be hiked just supporting or converting. Also auction among Christians, Muslims conversion groups. No lifetime recharge. It isike mobile recharge. It should be a validity period like recharge coupons. By doing so like making industry people bankrupt, can make these two religions bankrupt.

[@babasharma6694]

Caste is only a job type one held in a point in time

[@justforknowledge6367]

Thank you for this session. I could not learn about reservations based on castes and religions combined: i.e., if a person belonging to SC/ST converts from Hinduism to Xtianity or Momedanism, whether reservation for that person still continues in government jobs. This is a domain of concern.There are some who avail of this grey-zone. Next: Prof RV talked about 'Einstein Of Sociology', but upon my searching the Internet, it was found that there are multiple persons associated with that honourific. Could the Prof kindly elaborate upon it? Eagerly awaiting your reply. You already have my email-id. Here or there: no preference. Best wishes.

[@roman5782]

On paper many have remained Hindus to avail reservation, but in reality, they are practicing Christians. It's difficult for anyone to prove they are Christian on paper, so they continue to get the best of both worlds.

[@allmendiefeweverreallylive5186]

Small correction Mr.Iyer , reservation is not only for few government jobs as you commented but , but various educational and competitive exams as well as government schemes and politics ..................... !

[@kavspadma]

What caste do Dalits belong to in the chatur Varna system,Brahmana, kshatriya,vaisya and sudra.? We often hear the word "Panchamulu". Who are they?

[@Sudhentertainment]

Please use word sampradaya/panth not caste. Caste is a roman catholic concept which means de ja pure those born with pure blood

[@mahadevjalem818]

Can Matts be called congregationist?

[@chandrarangnath1043]

The Bah'ai are of Persian origin, like the Zoroastrian Parsees.

[@shank1220]

In South India, anyone converting to Islam, whatever be their caste, they are termed as Labbai, which is lower caste. A Brahman converting will become Labbai. He will not be considered as Raavuthar, which is considered as higher caste there.

[@viswanathanharihara1]

If a foreigner converts to Hinduism ISKON, which caste he will be placed? After all, for Hinduism, belief in god is secondary to varnashram and attended graded inequality. There may be caste differences among Muslims and Christians in India, but it is not written into their scriptures like Qur'an and Bible. Caste differences among other religions in India / subcontinent is an aberration instilled by Hindu religion. Your earlier part of discourse regarding Sunni/shia, catholic/Protestant are denominations of one particular religion. To equate that to caste is improper. An interesting incident: a few years before, daughter of a famous carnatic lady singer got married to a black man. There was a move to ostracise that singer! But there is at least one singer who got married to a white American and stays in America, who is allowed to perform during margazhi festival!!. I have seen several ISKON volunteers, who are whites, sporting a tuft and sacred thread!!!. Once it was mentioned to Dr.Ambedkar, that there was no caste differences in foreign/western countries. At that time there were not many upper caste people migrating to the west, and once they start migrating this caste will show its ugly head there also. This was Ambedkar's reply. This is proved to day, where in states like California caste is considered as a unfair practice. (Ref: SYSCO Case). There was a discourse on this in your channel also. Generally your panelists are upper caste Hindus and they bring in no new or different view points. Your discussions are self serving and do not enrich the viewers. They serve to satisfy your upper caste ego.

[@shobaneshwari]

Well-said.

[@vvanamali6286]

Prof. RV is *completely missing the point* when he tries to say that there are innumerable sects within Christians and Muslims. True, there are innumerable sects, and fighting within themselves as to who is the true one. However, _as far as their outlook towards Hindus_ is concerned, they have only *one* viewpoint: Hindus need to be converted, which is their core belief. Hence, it is pointless for Hindus to take a nuanced view of the sects within Islam or Christianity. Moreover, even though Hinduism is a heterodox religion, as far as Christians and Muslims are concerned, they view us as a monolith (because we are either in the grip of Satan or kafirs, as the case may be). Therefore, when it comes to viewing Christianity/Islam from the Hindu perspective, or vice-versa, the monolith view is what the underlying lens shows, and rightly so. The philosophical underpinnings that have given rise to the various sects simply don't matter as far as the cross-religion view is concerned. It is surprising to see Prof. RV missing this fundamental point. He has also completely missed the point about the ban on women entering mosques (at least in India). What is being pointed out is the *selectivity* with which this principle (and many others) is applied. The ban on women in Indian mosques was merely to point out the selectivity and not use it to buttress our defence. Sorry, Prof. RV, it has been an off day at the office for you on this issue.

[@roman5782]

Bang on!

[@kvsundaram9617]

Any religion that does not accept these three things is stupid. 1. Evolution theory of Darwin 2 continental drift theory 3 geological time scale. Whay do you say.?

[@KrishnadasBharatikb]

The Mādhva system has all these ingredients. They have a deity, they congregate, have Mathās in urban and semi urban areas, have a matthādipati, hold pravachanās or discussions on selected topics, with interpretation for adaptation to daily life, and efforts to inculcate a community bonding is always there. These existed among Brahmins of other hues as well but *died down* because of the scheming British. But this was not made compulsive or arm twisted with fear. Fear of after life, hell-fire, nor incentivised with *garden of milk and honey and 72 'hoors', been utilised in Religious propagation among Hindus Fear has been the principal motivator for conversion, both by the converter and the convert.

[@chandrarangnath1043]

Bah'ai are not Muslim at all. They are a religion in their own right. Prof RV pls take note.

[@shobaneshwari]

Along with this discussion, it may also be useful to listen to Kushal Mehra's talk on " Why I am a Political Hindu". The link : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnUqX6aaqqmmrs

[@darkprince2490]

Not a reliable guy.

[@athakkarutube009]

Sir as per our constitution, Rastafarian people are also Hindus. Please include them in CAA. We can use some groove and Indians will learn hindutva from foreign. Also we might get some good fast bowlers.

[@chandrarangnath1043]

it is quite annoying to hear Prof RV to continue to refer to the Bah'ai as Muslim. How can he be so ignorant ?

[@leenathewise8384]

Anthony Blinken addressed the concerns you attacking Christians. Do Christians attack you in America. You live happily so let us too

[@leenathewise8384]

Hello no matter how many Churches but all follow Jesus period. One mother having twelve children will follow their own way but have only one mother. In short I explained you.

[@leenathewise8384]

@Shakuntala because you started immigrating there

[@swamybap7671]

Very poor presentation

[@tsmravindra]

Thanks