The Japanese DBD Killer Tierlist Is So DIFFERENT

[@ProfHens]

Thanks so much to zawashi for making the Japanese Tierlist and subtilting it for us to review! Link to the original (be respectful): kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH_YamOJobGBpqMsi=YWLSzNkQtujT_S-Y

[@lukesimpson1507]

Hens after this you need to have a showcase with japanese Myers vs western Billy. Myers being so high is wild.

[@chances7035]

Read some of the translated comments and its so funny to me how he calls soloq "the wild"

[@lucid4851]

It describes solo q perfectly😭

[@Gallagherxz]

Yes in Japanese we call people that are not on our team "wild" as in like a wild animal.

[@egodeath7097]

someone needs to make a documentary about observing the wildlife in soloQ

[@egodeath7097]

@@Gallagherxz amazing

[@alvanschmitz947]

There already is a youtube channel that makes a DBD wildlife documentary-like video. I dont remember the channel's name unfortunately

[@zawashi]

I'm really happy to have so much interaction in the comments thanks to you. Thank you so much! It seems that many people particularly notice the low tier placements for Wesker, Hillbilly, and Artist. The main reason for this is that the evaluation criteria for this tier list are based on how much the killer is independent of map layouts, and also, it's based on my own experience using them, factoring in their control difficulty and the return relative to that difficulty. I understand that these killers have high theoretical potential, so if someone specializes in mastering them, it's not surprising at all if their tier goes up by 1 or 2 levels!

[@fatestriker123]

He really should have linked your video somewhere

[@jakubjunak1195]

Im very happy you put wraith so high lol i main him

[@chances7035]

@fatestriker123 hens literally linked the vid in the pinned comment though?

[@Nortio]

Yeah artist was weirdly low i think. But still an interesting list.

[@海斗君のファン]

​​@@NortioJapanese Mr.Zawashi does not base his evaluation on the maximum theoretical value of the killer. He evaluates killers based on whether the killer can kill all 4 survivors consistently on ANY map. Artists is weak on maps with multiple floors and it is difficult to kill all 4 survivors, so C tier is justified.

[@iheartblock3792]

I’d love to see an Asian player and a western player sit down together and talk about the difference in playstyles, because this tier list really gives an impression of a different game.

[@Crackgearson]

As an Asian who mainly Played in Asia before Moving to Germany, I can doubly say, we play very very differently. -First, Perk choices. We rely more on slowing down heals and actions, compared to slowing down Generators. - So perks like Sloppy Butcher, Thanatophobia, and Coulrophobia which is mostly only used on Doctor for Slow builds, is apparently a meta build in Asia. I used to use them alot, especially on Legion and Pig. - Second, The survivors are very selfish, its more or less a dog eat dog world in Asia servers, they rather one person do gens, and one do chase while the other two are in between a side player who do totems and item findings , while the next is just a flex.

[@iheartblock3792]

@ that’s really interesting, thanks for sharing!

[@floofzykitty5072]

I play in Asian servers too. It's a much more slower game with a stronger focus on stealth. For example, during the scream perk meta it was not uncommon to see every survivor running Calm Spirit. Self Care is one of the most popular perks by far. The thing is that asian meta players aren't "wrong" or playing "bad" - The playstyles of killer and survivor are adapted to the environment they are in. For example, someone wouldn't look at a penguin and go "look at these stupid birds, they can't even fly!", obviously penguins are adapted to their cold environment and have their own unique advantages there. Asian meta = stealth and focus on methodical play, therefore killers run more info perks, survivors run more perks like Distortion, Iron Will etc. to counter in turn The basis of the Asian meta is that survivors win a war of attrition (especially with gen kick limits now) whilst western meta is more focused on the fact that survivors strongest point is at the beginning, therefore you should play aggressive before your advantages slip away. To put things into perspective: If you run Corrupt Intervention in an Asian server game, it is completely normal to see a whole group of random survivors all decide to stealth and wait out the ENTIRE duration. You would be a fool to run this perk regularly. It's the complete opposite in an American/EU game, the survivors want to take the early advantage they have so Corrupt completely counters the "rush" meta.

[@DoctorRogue]

@@Crackgearson Me bringing Autodidact and Deadline to counter the entire Asia meta (/j)

[@anonymoose.of.toronto]

I played on the Asian servers a little bit when I was on vacation. No one heals you after they unhook you! I guess that's because of the self care meta.

[@TheRealFigLizard]

Here's my Japanese killer tier list: •Spirit •Oni •Onryo

[@dcomicsxx]

•Kaneki

[@Th3_Traitor]

Nah man… you‘re just above reality. He out-japanese‘d the Japanese.

[@someperson8547]

Skull Merchant's half Japanese too

[@bajhi_]

oni spirit onryo

[@eckogeckoo]

@@someperson8547 bottom tier

[@Angel_Flash]

When I saw Chucky at D-tier I was like "damn ok I guess the nerfs hit hard" but when he said "Chucky was low even before the nerfs" I was completely flabbergasted. There must only be like 2 people playing Chucky over there, because he was absolutely dominating over here before the nerfs.

[@asyashi_]

it might just be a less experienced player tbf, there are plenty of weird english tier lists

[@CounterGoose53]

@@asyashi_he said 10k hours in the video

[@fenixo7443]

@@asyashi_ 10k hours is experienced enough

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

​@@CounterGoose53watched his gameplay he's not experienced at all sure 10k Hours means u play alot😂😂

[@Teroo1234]

Chucky has to be the most overrated killer ever. Killer with chase power and nothing else has no business being higher than bottom of A tier

[@nathancoker9223]

I played for 3 years in the US and moved to Japan last year. I was consistently a good killer in the US. I get DESTROYED here.

[@WindyTW]

JP server got more ninjas and gen rushers

[@moosic5701]

Cap de cap.

[@リュック-k2t]

私はアジアサーバーでプレイをしていますが、反応の違いにおどろきました。 アジアサーバーではチェイスを楽しむより脱出を優先しているので発電する意識が高く、キラーはチェイスの強さ以外にも安定性や巡回性能の高さも求められています。 なので、チェイスが強いと言われているチャッキーは足が遅くて巡回に時間が掛かり、能力のCTも長いため一度のミスが大きく試合に影響してしまうのでアジアサーバーでは評価が低くなっています。

[@MrPendalv]

I assure you that on high mmr EU servers genrush and leaving are a win conditions for survivors as well. This is how comp is played and all high mmr teams are copying the comp scene. Chucky was so strong cause he ended chases very fast, he got a hit every 13 seconds and stealth helped him as well, and his small size. Chase power is everything for killer, without it no mobility or side objective power will not help the killer to win

[@Coulroperation]

This list seems to be a lot more based in overall consistency rather than a generic preset. Most lists here would just assume that every killer is being played on an "average map with average addons" like fx Coal Tower 1 with yellow addons, but he seems to focus a lot on how many maps are good or bad for the individual killers, and assuming they're running their best available stuff. It doesn't matter if artist is strong on 60% of the maps if she struggles on the 40% that has multiple floors, etc.

[@citrusthepenguin]

Maybe I'm just not experienced enough with Chucky, but he never felt super map dependant besides maybe bigger maps making his lack of mobility more apparent. He's still bottom 2, somehow.

[@twoshu8940]

I disagree, I just think map dependency is given variable consideration here in the US whereas in the Japanese tier list map dependency seems to be heavily important no matter what killer

[@suspecm6316]

Honestly that ranking sounds to me a lot better than averaging out their performance.

[@zackmash851]

@@citrusthepenguin i think the underlying issue is that the person making the list is using their own experience, and they are not very mechanically skilled at the game. its why killers like chucky, wesker, billy, artist, etc. are much lower on this list than they are in reality

[@đóicơm]

As someone living in SEA, our playstyle is very different from JP, especially in key aspects. We don’t use Self-Care, and the killer tier lists are also noticeably different from those in JP. Streamers in my country mostly create tier lists that are more similar to Western ones. And yes, even though we are all part of Asia, we have a unique playstyle of our own.I strongly disagree with, especially if you haven’t actually played with us here. I’m not saying that JP’s playstyle is bad-it’s just different from ours. And this doesn’t even include CN.

[@EastKoppy]

and we definitely won't take Hillbilly to C 😂

[@Shotgun9811]

Some comments claim that we rely on perks related to healing slow Lol I guess he must be playing in another world of Asia for sure

[@sayozrespubilk894]

Oh yeah and hard tunnel is the only playstyle in SEA

[@IA-su7gw]

I wanna see SEA's comp team vs JP's one but I've never seen any SEA's comp team performance.

[@đóicơm]

@@IA-su7gw The 'DBD Eastern World Cup' (YT) The tournament features teams from three countries in SEA participating. JP managed to beat two teams from SEA, but unfortunately, they lost to CN. Personally, I think the strongest team in SEA is TH, which took 3rd place in this tournament.

[@fletchhead]

Something I've noticed that may or may not correlate to these tier placements is that the Japanese/Asian servers seem to play more defensively and immersed. In your showcase, we saw them playing the slow game with Self Care and such so it seems killers who are able to track and get free hits against hiding players are more valuable than chase killers. Wraith, Unknown, Houndmaster, Singularity can find and track survivors relatively well as well as quickly cross the map. Same with Dredge and Myers to a lesser extent. Plague stops healing, Pinhead can track with box, etc. I would also assume Asian players use a lot of top tier offerings and addons based on how he tiered the killers. Bottom tier killers are also killers who generally make a lot of noise like Billy and Wesker (with TR) so maybe these traits are valued less? Could just be making this up so take it with a grain of salt. I love these videos as they show the different metas that can develop in isolated environments and it's really interesting to see! TL;DR: Asian server seems to value stealth much more than chase.

[@will_simoes]

Very interesting your observation. Seems reasonable. I'm curious to see how they evaluate survivor's perk, to corroborate or not to your theory.

[@fletchhead]

@@will_simoes Based on the showcase he did months back they seem to run a similar setup to the west (anti-tunnel and exhaustion) just with the addition of lots of healing perks as well. I assume (note the assumption) that survivors in the east prefer playing spread out and as independent as possible (maybe something to do with soloq's lack of comms?) compared to here where it's common for survivors to group up more to reset.

[@citrusthepenguin]

That still doesn't explain Chucky though?? His small size, Hidey-Ho granting him undetectable and Add-Ons like Iri Pendant and Strobing Lights make him VERY stealthy. This strength was secondary to his chase, which Japanese players seem to believe isn't as strong as what we think in the Western World. Even in his current nerfed state, he's better than SM in pretty much every way. I'm so confused.

[@YaMaTo999Vir]

And no one there think of combine wesker+30%tr+cliwnophobia+disteessing with such meta?!

[@fletchhead]

@@YaMaTo999Vir I mean considering what Hens said it could just be people aren't good enough at Wesker to abuse the build. Alternatively, Wesker's mobility still isn't high enough to compete with a Wraith who can consistently injure.

[@Alessandro90933]

So looks like nurse and blight being S tier Is something everyone agrees with.

[@kzkaa.]

As it turns out, the ability to go anywhere anytime is really valuable.

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@kzkaa. A proper nurse has 0 counter play.

[@Melanatedhatervibez]

​@kzkaa. Boom

[@Alessandro90933]

@AlwaysThirstys No, they can dc.

[@canelkoc8726]

​@@kzkaa. Nurse isn't that kind of killer. In chase she's extremely fast because her blinks allow her to traverse at an insane speed at one moment. But she doesn't really move across the map faster than a regular 4.6 killer. Her fatigue and cool down limit how fast she can traverse (which is a good thing). Her chase is what makes her s tier. The only reason why Blight shares a tier with her is that he has a strong chase as well as an insane map traversal.

[@Arcavi0us]

As an Australian, late at night sometimes I get thrown into SEA/JP lobbies. Its actually insane the level of difference between what we typically see and what is played over there. Constantly get destroyed on both sides of the queue

[@GuestDGaming]

Update from his comment section: he said he plans on adding more English subtitles to videos in the future because of how positive the response was. Great work everyone!

[@Beansahol]

'we did it reddit' ahh comment

[@DeadInsights]

As someone who plays on Asian servers the style of play is so different to EU servers. Self care gets shit on in the EU and NA but it’s always used in Asia. Killers also tunnel way more in Asia. Feels a lot less relaxed than eu servers overall but there are so many cracked players. Twins being in the best tier doesn’t surprise me, i get wrecked every time I come across one in Asia.

[@CocoCosmo0]

i think that zawashi does a pretty good job of ranking the killers based on how easy they are to play and explaining that certain killers would be a few tiers higher with a player investing a lot of time into them BUT i do think that some of the rankings should be more focused on how high of a level each killer could hypothetically be played (e.g. pyramid head and wesker could be ranked higher if a person maining them were to play them) but overall i enjoyed the ranking and liked the commentary!

[@keeperofthehammer6795]

This reminds me of Otz's idea for tierlists where he shows a range of positions for killers, because some killers have addons that shoot them up a few tiers, like Myers and Pinhead.

[@Rebel4ebel]

Yeah I miss when he'd have the lines showing a killers relative ranking potential wise

[@D-Doc-C]

​@@Rebel4ebelThose used to take him and chat an enormous amount of time though, and is a lot more subjective than just an average of the killers performance

[@CounterGoose53]

Asian servers must be a whole different world because this tier list is crazy to me.

[@darkenyuki9109]

This is Japanese tier list, Asian server as a whole play almost exactly like the West.

[@Ouroboros619]

It's really fascinating to see how different communities view the same game.

[@MurphysLawGaming-yg6bk]

Would be cool to see another East vs West showcase where their top survivors get pitted against killers they rank low and vice versa!

[@かわな-x2t]

I'm a Japanese who plays both killer and survivor and I usually watch Mr. Zawa's videos. I looked at the comments section of this video by Heas, and I felt that many people felt uncomfortable about Wesker, Artist, and Hillbilly, just as Mr. Zawa pointed out on his channel. I thought Hillbilly would be fine if it was A-, but I don't think what Mr. Zawa said is far from wrong. However, I was very surprised by Xeno Hillbilly in the World Friendly Battle. I've never seen such a good Hillbilly. As Xeno pointed out, Hillbilly is a killer with very high potential, but it's very difficult to get it to that level, and there are very few people in Japan who have reached that level, so I think Mr. Zawa made this evaluation, including the difficulty of operation. Artist is ranked C or B by every Japanese player, and I don't think there is much individual difference in the thinking on the Japanese side. Of course, I also think that Artist is a killer with strong chase, but I think that it depends on the map, as Mr. Zawa said. I think Wesker is B, and many other Japanese players also think he is B, but few think he is A. I think this is because the time it takes to reuse abilities and the pressure from the Ouroboros Virus have been weakened. Also, looking at the comments section, I felt that many people were assuming that they could control each killer incredibly well. I think it is important to understand that this is a ranking based on Mr. Zawa's criteria (of course, not everyone is like that). It was very interesting to hear opinions from different environments, and it made me think. Thank you for a very interesting video.

[@moosic5701]

Is there any high lvl billys in japan because i remember xeno's team 4 out a nurse...

[@かわな-x2t]

I have never seen a Japanese person who is streaming at the same level as Xeno. Of course, I'm sure there is someone out there. By the way, Mr. Zawa, who made this ranking, also watched the World Friendly Battles and was very surprised at the level of Xeno's Hillbilly. Also, Ya-kun, the Japanese nurse in the first match, is one of the top nurses in Japan. Xeno's team managed to escape with four people, but I think this is because Japanese players are not used to matches with high ping and because the individual chase skills of the survivors on the Xeno team are high. Japanese players are of course good, but I got the impression that the Xeno team is fighting with individual strength and the Japanese team is fighting with team strength. By the way, ask in the exhibition was also one of the top nurses in Japan, and the Xeno team escaped with two people. To be honest, the Japanese side was surprised that Ya-kun and ask's nurses, who are using four parks and add-ons OK, although there are restrictions, did not wipe out the entire team. I think Xeno's nurses are also at a higher level than Japanese ones.

[@ivanleonov4579]

One thing I will say about huntress is that if you watch highlight reels or looping videos there are loads of clips of huntress in there, because as a 110 killer who gets no bloodlust (due to pulling hatchets a lot) and is reliant on outplaying the opponent, which leads to her occasionally falling flat on her face in solo queue, which is why i kinda agree with that ranking.

[@celestia8060]

What is interesting to me about this tier list is that it somewhat closely represents what the identity V tear list would be or their killer comparisons from dead by daylight. I am wondering if it is just coincidence, or that identity V likely being a more popular game in Asian regions has some effect on peoples perception of dead by daylight killers in Japan. It would be interesting seeing somebody who is well-versed in both try and analyze this.

[@Kliv]

I'm not gonna pretend that the west has it figured and everyone else is clueless, but this list is wild.

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

I think mix of both would be perfect list billy b😂😂

[@zackmash851]

yeah we definitely arent the be-all end-all of DBD but i can safely say this list is very wrong from experience lol

[@Theguywhoplaysguitar]

@@zackmash851well it is wrong from YOUR experience. Are you playing on asian servers?

[@zackmash851]

@@Theguywhoplaysguitar im playing dead by daylight for thousands of hours chief, i can acknowledge someone is wrong regardless of the server

[@Theguywhoplaysguitar]

@ no you cannot. You don't know what the game is like on asian servers period. And also, do you really think that a couple thousand hours make you so entitled to the truth, that it completely outweighs the 10k hours of the creator? That actually played on the servers we are talking about?! You see this is not about dbd. I also have some thousand hour on EU dbd and I watched tons of content about the game. I also dont agree with the list. But you seem to be very close minded, thinking that just because a truth doesnt fit your world it cannot be true. Thats basic.

[@heymister1706]

Billy is C tier is WILD WORK

[@Czesnek]

They need to buff him.

[@GremIinLord]

​@@Czesnek How about no

[@halfheart3290]

Same thing seeing my main Huntress in C tier, I will agree though they both struggle with indoor maps.

[@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia]

​@@CzesnekThey overbuffed him. All they needed to do is remove chainsaw cooldown and thats it, but they decided to add Turbo and buff all his addons for some reason

[@GöstaHöstasson]

On some maps he is pretty weak but overall at least B-tier

[@electrapng]

The implication that every single person on Asian servers playing Pinhead is hard tunneling with Original Pain is fucking hilarious, holy shit

[@ProfHens]

Tryharding is the norm over there, nobody would complain about tunneling It's kind of expected to try your hardest to win

[@xzinster]

​@@ProfHens Tunneling, camping, and slugging are still generally frowned upon, but post-game chat is mostly non-existent due to the variety of languages across Asian countries. And because the internet culture here in Asia is generally 'troll'-like, many killers don’t care about them and would continue to tunnel, camp, and slug in their games.

[@時計-i3r]

I am a Japanese who plays dbd in Japan. You will probably find this ranking strange and very wrong for overseas dbd players. And I don't think overseas players will be convinced by this ranking. From the point of view of overseas survivors, servers other than Asia are the most rational, and it may seem very childish for Asians to play dbd with self-care. But that's really a mistake. Self-care is a very important environment for Asian servers. At least for us Asians, foreign dbd players look very stupid and clumsy. However, it only looks like that from the Asian point of view, but in fact it is not. In other words, what I want to say is that it is a mistake to try to rank each server. You can rank the killer, but I think it's almost impossible to rank the server.

[@kris-k3q4f]

I'm basically making a huge assumption here but I think I remember when you made the video about the tournament between western players and japanese players we noticed that the japanese meta was a lot more focused on healing perks. This might be something to consider when there are ratings in this tier list for insta down killers that are not normally put as high as they are and why he mentions the iri coin on slinger being impactful

[@cannonade2389]

I'm very happy that he rates my boys Myers and Dredge so highly! Though I do think Myers needs a few more buffs to be up there without the Tombstone Piece.

[@SpaceW-]

As a Vecna player I think it’s interesting to see someone rank him so high. I often mention that Vecna is underrated (but I still wouldn’t put him that high). Vecna is not super map dependent and I kind of think of him more similar to Artist than any other killer. He can kind of force free damage with FotD and Mage Hand. I think western players focus too much on the cooldown addons and not the ones that significantly improve your spells. I really don’t think cooldown is necessary at all so you’re leaving power on the table. I won’t say that Vecna games are easy or anything, but I feel like I have a fighting chance on any map and imo is closer to mid-B than the low C I usually see him. I’d put him in like top 15 killers

[@Geadsss]

Hens visits Japan to play DBD and check out Survivor metas when?

[@floofzykitty5072]

I play in Asian servers too. It's a much more slower game with a stronger focus on stealth. For example, during the scream perk meta it was not uncommon to see every survivor running Calm Spirit. Self Care is one of the most popular perks by far. The thing is that asian meta players aren't "wrong" or playing "bad" - The playstyles of killer and survivor are adapted to the environment they are in. For example, someone wouldn't look at a penguin and go "look at these stupid birds, they can't even fly!", obviously penguins are adapted to their cold environment and have their own unique advantages there. Asian meta = stealth and focus on methodical play, therefore killers run more info perks, survivors run more perks like Distortion, Iron Will etc. to counter in turn The basis of the Asian meta is that survivors win a war of attrition (especially with gen kick limits now) whilst western meta is more focused on the fact that survivors strongest point is at the beginning, therefore you should play aggressive before your advantages slip away. To put things into perspective: If you run Corrupt Intervention in an Asian server game, it is completely normal to see a whole group of random survivors all decide to stealth and wait out the ENTIRE duration. You would be a fool to run this perk regularly. It's the complete opposite in an American/EU game, the survivors want to take the early advantage they have so Corrupt completely counters the "rush" meta.

[@emyrstarlaw5132]

As a Pyramid head main when I saw his position below Skull merchant I was cringing during the whole video awaiting the explanation, is a good thing that the guy is upfront and honest about his lack of experience with the killer. I can respect his transparency.

[@dan-xl4mg]

I would love to see top players in the c rank killers, to go against japan, like hillbilly wesker for example

[@sebestein09]

xenomorph D tier is beyond crazy

[@Czesnek]

He is trash. Chest spawn locations takes priority over tunnel placements that can result in 3 tunnels to spawn on a single tile and spamming turrets gives you free distance.

[@josh9452]

Feels similar to Wesker where they might not have many people that play Xeno

[@Direwreck]

His ceiling is high but in pub matches he does feel weak, it makes sense. I have 5k hour if that’s any credence

[@Egospair]

Don't understand how people underestimate Xeno but then put Nemesis higher when he functionally gives the survivors a 3rd health state

[@malachiluna9777]

​@@Egospair Nemesis is more consistent across maps given that he does not depend on tunnels spawning near generators, he also cannot be taken out of his power, he can deal with pallets faster, and passively gains information on survivors. Sure, Xenomorph does have somethings better than Nemesis, but Xeno is no direct upgrade.

[@ineedyoutostop]

I feel a lot of people overrate pyramid head, but I'm not sure I'd put him THIS low. The lack of map pressure, the difficulty in actually getting people tormented, torment not really doing a whole lot unless you tunnel, the turning rate restriction making it very difficult to hit survivors who can see you, flicks being FPS based and not consistent, a complete lack of any map mobility or pressure, I just find it very hard to put him higher than top 15. In the latest otz tier list for example, every killer above him and a few below have some form of mobility or long range pressure tools that phead doesn't have, and it makes playing him against good survivors incredibly difficult.

[@Antarctide]

His braindead chase power requiring zero risks single-handily ensures him being an above average killer.

[@maow45]

This is a thorough breakdown and i feel too unexperienced to question your choices, but it is your tier list in the end of the day regardless. However according to the stated criterias, most of my feelings about the ranking are aligned. Your arguments and reasoning are solid, will surely check out some of your gameplay after this! Sidenote: Personally im very much looking forward to Junji Ito's collaboration, hope it gives incentive for more Japanese players to join as well! The few I have played with in my 300h have been both great players and respectful as well. DBD sure needs more of that! (Appreciate the subtitles, kudos friend)

[@VileVamp]

To contextualize myers: he was only ever played with double iri. Idk what they run on him now.

[@pacapacaZ]

My first, let me thank Hens for bringing up this video. As Zawashi noted during in here, in Asia, a killer with tracking capabilities but no ability to stop completing gens tends to be seen as weak. This is because there are many survivors who understand that when someone is being chased, it is an opportunity to comp gens. This is the opposite of the Western playstyle, where survivors are constantly looking for use flash light for their own enjoyment, and such play is generally seen as a lost opportunity for comp gens by fellow survivors. And while it's certainly not fun for players when tunneling or camping results in early elimination of survivors, they have accepted it as a tactic and will spare no effort to prevent it from happening. Therefore, especially in Japan, killers who specialize in chasing are rated low if they are unable to prevent other survivors from making comp gens in the time it takes for the chased survivor to choose a down position and for the killer to hook the victim. Bad Guy is emblematic of this, as his abilities themselves are not what you would call a free hitwith one button, and no matter how hard he tries, he does not have a high enough chase ability to make up for his poor ability to patrol the entire map. To add a note about the playstyle, in Asia there is a tendency to pursue the interests of the whole rather than individual interests. This is because it ultimately increases one's own survivability. Just like you yourself have done in the past, Hens. Even if I are sacrificed, if all others allies survive, we win. That's the way to play.

[@Antarctide]

No offense but Chucky's power in a good player's hands indeed is a free hit. Less so now, admittedly.

[@pacapacaZ]

@@Antarctide Your opinion is true, but it's puzzling because on the behavior forums it's always described as an easy one-button killer that gets free hits. There aren't that many skilled players out there. And even if killer make a survivor goes down slightly quickly, it's pointless if killer can't disrupt comp gens with other survivors, so 4.4m speed is set the killer to low evaluation.

[@Th3_Traitor]

Xeno and Billy that low is wiiiiiild. But I‘m glad they are recognizing Vecna‘s power.

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

Vecna is not a

[@AndreTheCrab]

Xeno is pretty trash since the tail can be easily dodged and you can just set up turrets to slow him down a bunch.

[@eckogeckoo]

@@AndreTheCrab The tail attack is not easily dodged, there's barely an indicator for it and the animation isn't in sync for when Xeno's tail can actually physically deal damage. Turrets are also not as strong as they're made out to be, and require coordination for them to be actually useful. Never mind the fact that they can be nullified with a green addon.

[@AndreTheCrab]

@@eckogeckoo The windup time for the tail is too long and the hitbox is wack. Genuinely not a very difficult killer to play against as survivor.

[@todimotska]

@@AndreTheCrab Tail is very hard to dodge. Unlike nemesis, the attack is not broadcast at all, so survs have 0 time to react. But yes, hitbox is wack... for survivors. Even if they somehow dodge, the tail can be dragged. It's basically unavoidable. Very annoying to go against as survivor, you probably just aren't very good at xeno.

[@mrkatamari]

In western tier lists is often overlooked how the map conditions the killers power. Probably, because in the competitive scene the map and the killer are agreed in advance, so it is not common to deal with things like Hillbilly in Lery's Memorial. So yes, in regular matches there is a high chance to get a terrible map for your killer, I can see reasonable for the Artist, Hunter or Hillbilly to drop some tiers just for that reason.

[@TV-we9cx]

In Asia server, "self care" + "botany knowledge" is meta. That is why Chucky was low even before the nurfs. Chucky player are tormented by asia servers survivors gene rush and heal speed. And Japanese players tend to consider 4.4 killers to be weak. (I'm Japanese player btw)

[@Smisser]

I think its interesting that for a lot of the killers the justification presented do make some sense, but still with some very controversial placements compared to most western tier lists; Billy being the most obvious. I'd love to ask for more detail by the creator! Like why they think Blight is so much stronger than Billy while most in West servers would put them on pretty equal footing for having great map mobility that also functions as an extremely strong chase tool.

[@sakurapinoreo1872]

海外のウェスカープレイを見ると多くはハグテックを使用しています。アジア圏でハグテックを使用するウェスカーはほぼおらず、配信者たちも積極的にそれを習得しようとしていません。ハグテックなしのウェスカーは一般的なチェイスにおいてそこまで脅威ではないため日本での評価は高くありません。一部彼を高く評価する人々はスプレーを枯渇させる戦法を取ります

[@John-rl1fv]

I think the main reason for the differences is that they use the strongest addons in consideration of a killer's strength, where we typically ignore them, usually saying things like "besides Tombstone Piece Myers" or "unless it's an iri head Huntress", etc... I'd be interested to see how our teir list would compare if it was anything goes, because I see it being somewhat similar.🤔

[@BurningLariat]

This is true. I’ve played many hours on JP servers and I’ve never seen a Myers without Tombstone.

[@kogiinu]

I'm a little curious about this comment section, how many minutes does it take you guys to repair all of your generators? Just a sense of how long it takes is fine. When I play I average about 7-8 minutes to complete power generation. Sometimes it takes about 20 minutes when it is slow, and sometimes it takes 5 minutes when it is fast. I would love to hear about the speed at which the generator is repaired, as I am sure that this kind of discussion about the strength of each killer would include the speed at which the generator is repaired.

[@2102ukuhorom]

On average, one generator is repaired on the first down of a survivor on a Japanese server, and within two or three minutes of the start of the match, the number of generators remaining is often three.

[@g.i.qhrrkfl5660]

You guys hate tunneling and gen rushing, but Asians love to do it. It's an easy way to win, but more importantly, it's an effective way to win. In other words, it's not about being lazy-it's about being smart.

[@pacapacaZ]

Yes. And in that situation, the tier chart for how the killer can "win the game" is shown in this video. How can they outperform the survivors who never hit the killer with a pallet and move their hips up and down or lure the killer with a flashlight? This chart is for that purpose.

[@zackmash851]

bro acting like its not also extremely prevalent and an easy way to win in the west as well. people just have more empathy/self respect in the west i guess so theres an aspect of self/community policing against these unfun and boring playstyles

[@SASQUATCHPRIEST]

"empathy and self respect" lmao it's a video game man. They're trying to win and are using a good method to do it. And jp doesn't seem to have such a mental illness problem.

[@yourablizardlarryyes5148]

They have some of the highest suicide rates out of any country….

[@ThatOneCucumber721]

I always have to disagree with tierlosts when it comes to the Wraith. As a westerner, people always put him in mid to high C, and I don’t know why. He’s been out since the start of the game and survivors STILL don’t know how to play against him (me included) his body blocks and speed are very oppressive and the stealth on top of that makes it hard to escape the first hit. I definitely wouldn’t put him top 5 like the Japanese did, but I would argue that he’s probably mid B tier or higher.

[@Left4Sharkbait]

I honestly quite agree with a lot of these placements. They were very well explained and reasoned, which makes it easy to understand and agree with the placements. You can tell what he values in a killer and what makes an effective killer for him, so it is easy to root myself in his perspective to understand this tier list.

[@Mister_Doodles]

16:40 what makes him say that he think people in Japan haven’t mastered Billy?

[@darthj1184]

Billy's low placement. In NA, Billy is very high ranked because some people have put so many hours that he becomes a very high ranked killer, not because he's naturally super strong.

[@zackmash851]

because billy is undoubtedly a top 3 killer when you're competent at him. placing him lower is just admitting a lack of competence

[@Mister_Doodles]

@@darthj1184 i wonder why Japanese players haven’t put time into him

[@vaporghoul]

@@Mister_Doodles I'm gonna just guess and say that curving with hillbilly is the most unique game mechanic I've ever used in a pvp game, because it's all about the mind game and precise timing and aim. Maybe there's a language barrier present for resources on killers like this because even trying to explain how to master the curve is really difficult.

[@darkenyuki9109]

As someone who lives in SEA and a survivor main, we usually apply the killer tier list from Western streamers and youtubers, so this tier list is definitely something else. Never thought Billy could be this low, a good Billy can easily dominate survivor team even in indoor maps like Leri. And in my server, bring Self-care is considered a "meme" play and people already have bad impression at this perk, but I heard that everyone in Japan use it so I'm very confused.

[@2102ukuhorom]

For example, if Red Pyramid Head's long-range attacks could all hit their target, they would be the strongest killer, but that is not realistic. Similarly, players who use Billy well on small maps are unique examples, and they are not useful for evaluating killer players as a whole. In Japanese analysis, it is said that Western tier tables often evaluate characters based on the maximum advantages they can have.

[@darkenyuki9109]

@@2102ukuhorom Still, putting Billy in this low makes no sense to me.

[@eyestothesoul304]

Since Myer's buff, he's been one of the hardest killers to escape from in solo queue.

[@drs4983]

Billy and Wesker in C tier is wild to me

[@poopcat7810]

The reason doctor is strong with distressing and sloppy on asian servers is because self care has an incredibly high pick rate

[@zackmash851]

its funny that objectively weaker killers are good over there because they're also using bad perks lol

[@poopcat7810]

@@zackmash851 it's not even that bad because if needed you can infinitely self heal while your teammates do gens or take chase which is mad useful in drawn out matches or 3 gens

[@Crackgearson]

As an Asian who mainly Played in Asia before Moving to Germany, I can doubly say, we play very very differently. -First, Perk choices. We rely more on slowing down heals and actions, compared to slowing down Generators. - So perks like Sloppy Butcher, Thanatophobia, and Coulrophobia which is mostly only used on Doctor for Slow builds, is apparently a meta build in Asia. I used to use them alot, especially on Legion and Pig. - Second, The survivors are very selfish, its more or less a dog eat dog world in Asia servers, they rather one person do gens, and one do chase while the other two are in between a side player who do totems and item findings , while the next is just a flex. (Self Care is a Must in Lobbies, If you don't have it, you are either a Noob or a Troll) - More or less, the game is on reducing resources thats about it. Both sides of killers and survivors, and most players in Asian DBD play with Zero to One Addon, unless really needed because of the whole Min Maxxing resources. So yes, most addons he talks about are almost always Singular because yes, we do rely on singular addons most of the time. If you want to replicate the Asian playstyle in any other area, I would recommend you playing Identity V, Because almost everyone plays like the Asian Playstyle on it. Something Ironic is that when I went for a holiday to Japan and played on a CC (Computer Cafe) and joined some LAN party server who played Custom Matches that you could still get rewarded on, I was surprised when they got mad at me when I played very aggresive and used EU Builds(which is pretty basic playstyle) they said its more or less equivalent to being a Toxic Russian Player, so I switched it up and played Wesker with a basic set of Perks, I used to mainly use back when I lived in MYS, and they were surprised too when I still annihilated them. I couldn't really speak Japanese so I had to use a translator most of the time. One of them said that he never went up against a Wesker so skilled, But ironically I wasn't at all, I kept whiffing my slides and hugs, but to them I was still being skillful, and I am surprised right now right here, that apparently he is a C/D tier killer, What!?

[@chinchillinDaily]

Asia Solo Que teammates: 🇯🇵🇮🇳🇹🇭🇲🇾🇲🇨🇰🇷🇵🇭🇻🇳🇰🇬🇺🇿🇭🇰 Really make you appreciate the ones in the West

[@Crackgearson]

@chinchillinDaily difference is, Players in Asia are more or less Lone Wolves, they don't rely on teammates half the time. Even if on Comms, What build and tactics they chose and see, is what they know they have to do. Its like a Soldier Class, If you are a Rifleman you fight as a rifleman, you are not a demolitionist, you don't need All the Good gadgets, you aim, you shoot. So in simple terms, Asian players play on the get go very accordingly, unlike EU or US(I don't know how they play), where they are confused af and go left and right, crouch in a corner and don't know stuff. In Asia, it is normal for us to read on things before starting it, like a Wiki or a Physical Book or some skilled players guides etc. So we read and process from there. Unlike EU, from my experience, where some play the tutorial and don't know anything else wack shizz or just skips it and literally don't know what a Generator is.

[@DBD_DouZi]

Your DBD gaming experience is probably more from the Japanese servers，some are real for JP server but not apply to the entire Asia server im afraid.If u play in more different Asia server,u might tell the huge difference❤

[@ordinant2504]

No way self care is a must have perk, surely you jest bro

[@DBD_DouZi]

@@ordinant2504might be jp server's favorite,but think about it ,healing got nerfed for a long time,if u ever played in like HongKong Server u will never say self-care is a must perk😂 well if u havent, u will never know this unfortunately

[@JujuCanBall]

I'm not experienced enough to make tier lists for killers, but I will say that I have had tremendous success lately with Dracula. He covers literally every weakness I've ever had (pressuring gens, mobility, anti-loop, chase, etc). Shocked to see he isn't top 10 in Japan

[@gagaga1455]

I do remember I have recently watched an asian dbd shorts on utube and that guy(survivor) made some crazily smart play like ayrun would like to make but so unique I have literally never seen in my thousands of hours of playtime( also crazy amount of watched dbd on utube as well) the killer was really confused and so was I.

[@Mercer526]

What he do?

[@gagaga1455]

@ I may not recall everything correctly, but he did some play at the back of the basement where there are 2 pair of lockers by each wall. Him(survivor) was hiding in one of them, killer came so he got head oned, flasbanged, surv then went to the other pair of lockers, deceptioned it and actually HID behind the small cracked wall in the middle of the back part of the basement, so the killer checked other pair of locker thinking he would jump in there, then surv proceeded to throw a pebble to the pair of lockers killer tried to check at first(when he got stunned) and he just kept hiding behind this small wall with iron will while killer just kept checking lockers.

[@ordinant2504]

@@gagaga1455 I'd say watch WoohooMySim but I think he got his channel taken down. He did pretty similar stuff

[@gagaga1455]

@ Ye I have watched that guy plenty of times, he likes to play shteeeev

[@hluccaskywalker8329]

I definitely agree about new nerfed Chucky, his power is just a Hillbilly chainsaw with worse turning that has to be manually released for some reason and doesn't instadown. Sure her can go through windows and pallets but Scamper is only effective if the survivor runs in a straight line since you turn so slowly. His undetectable is useful but he's also loud when charging his power, revealing his location despite having no terror radius. Not to mention that unlike Billy, he also has a cooldown on his dash, it doesn't break objects, he's 110%, and has no traversal. It's like if Demogorgon was slow, had no portals, and could steer his shred, except it doesn't travel quickly or break pallets.

[@ilikeshiba]

I used to play mostly in Taiwan and I often grouped with some Japanese friends. Things are different but I don’t think it’s as big as people are saying. Tunneling and slugging for the 4k was really common. People didn’t quit or give up in really long drawn out gen-kick 3gen games. One of my Japanese friends was surprised I knew who chucky was and thought he was a lame killer idea. I do think people take hits for each other less and generally rely on long chases done by a single person instead. But for the most part, things seem pretty similar. Though I actually haven’t played much outside of Asia so I’m mostly guessing how US/EU are based on what I see on KZbin.

[@tvmawang]

It is fair to note that DBD have 3-4 servers for Asia: HK (most of CN, TW, SEA players are here) Tokyo Seoul Singapore (not sure if this is still here) As someone who plays in each of these servers, I can really say that these servers have different playstyles and perk preferences and probably even different tier lists.

[@adamkant439]

I thought he said in the beginning that he didn't put the killers from best to worst on a tier he just put them on the same tier so he doesn't mean 1 is stronger then other one.

[@andyrew72]

4:22 thank you for moving to a better spot

[@SoMuchNoise1]

Just want to add my own two cents as a fighting game player: Character usage (especially character usage among top players) by region is definitely a huge factor when it comes to character evaluation. There was a very similar experience with my most fighting game of choice, Guilty Gear Strive. In Strive, there was one character called Happy Chaos who was considered mega busted in the west, think like Nurse/Blight in terms of strength, completely breaks the rules of the game, etc. But he is somewhat hard to use, and is not really represented all that much in Japan, so most JP pros considered him mid tier or even low tier. On the flipside, there's another character named I-No who is basically only played by one guy worldwide, a very strong player in Japan named Daru, who was very successful with the character. In this case, it was reversed, where Japan rated I-No much higher than in the west. This was a few years ago, and it was on the back of international competitions such as EVO and EVO Japan that the tierlist has unified a bit. I hope that the DBD community can enjoy the same experience in the future. :) I also want to bring it up because, in the example of Strive, many western players were very rude to Japanese players in response to Happy Chaos' low evaluation, and I think it reflected on the west very poorly. Fingers crossed that the viewers of this video will be more respectful and help to bring the communities together.

[@cjames9320]

P100 Knight here. I would easily put Knight in A-tier. The only reason he isn't in S-tier is because BHVR decided not to fix the bug where you can bug out the guards at windows, and instead declared it a mechanic at his big rework. If they would fix that, he'd go straight into S-tier in my opinion. At the very least, they shouldn't be able to bug the guards out at blocked windows, because currently his Iridescent Banner is useless

[@KeosiDBD]

As a Ghostface main, it’s entirely understandable to put him at the bottom of D. He’s extremely map dependent, can struggle in chase, and his add ons are the worst in the game. Personally I’d put him above Trapper and Skull Merchant, but I understand putting him below.

[@ilikeshiba]

I agree, I wanted to like Ghostface but he just never gets going. The majority of my matches I just get destroyed. I always just thought maybe I’m just bad at him but trapper or Myers with no add-ons is way stronger for me than ghostface with a meta build. I mostly played in East Asia servers so that might have something to do with it. People just always knew where I was and revealed me. Even if you expose someone, it can be hard to get the down if the map isn’t favorable. I just feel like too much time gets taken by a power which doesn’t do enough to justify it. He wastes his time hiding, the gens get done, and he sucks at chase.

[@KeosiDBD]

@ I entirely agree with you. To be a strong killer in this game you need at least one of the following: strong anti-loop, strong map traversal, snowball/pressure potential. Realistically, Ghostface lacks in all departments. Not only that, but unlike Myers and Trapper, who can be somewhat redeemed with a good build, Ghostface’s add-ons are awful. Ghostface needs an entire overhaul of his add-ons, faster movement speed when crouching (why is he slower than a survivor? it makes crouching to mindgame short loops largely ineffective), and a short haste effect when a survivor gets marked. These changes would probably be enough to sit him in low C tier.

[@Markus123_]

Ghostface is the only killer in the entire game that can have his power completley disabled by survivors at any time without any consequences. I think that is already enough to put him in the bottom D tier

[@BOO-wi9jd]

That was dope i think we need more content like that maybe Asian tournament vod.

[@heronik79]

6:03 i was thinking "which addon is Initial Pain?" Googled it, it showed me Original Pin... Or so i thought cause then i read it correct and it's called Original Pain... All this years I thought it's Original Pin, I wear glasses and still somehow blind

[@whorcares123]

7:10, he did say towards the start that the placement within the tiers is interchangeable.

[@raineyhaze]

wesker and billy in C is absolutely criminal, they're playing a whole different game

[@VetriVade]

I think this is a great tierlist. Twins are extremely powerful and underated

[@Antarctide]

Underrated by morons who still don't grasp anything about the game they play. Many such cases.

[@eeeezypeezy]

Yeah I think Billy is more skill dependent than map dependent. A good billy can 4k on any map without sweating too hard. But a mediocre billy player is gonna struggle against competent survivors.

[@delgids]

I’m so glad someone else is saying what I have about Chucky. They have made him one of the worst in one patch

[@GuyN0ir]

A lot of the stuff he said makes sense when you remember self-care is such a commonly used perk on Asian servers.

[@Iron_Cutlass]

As a Demo main, Im not really surprised that Demo is put in B-tier, but I do have to question why they are so low in B-tier. Demo does have a lot of techs that give them an edge over other Killers in the B-tier section. One of the lesser talked about aspects is that hitting a Shred at the very end of the Shred animation (when you are mostly stationary) but still while the animation is active brings your full movement speed back up faster, just enough to get very clean two-taps against unprepared Survivors or allow for zoning of experienced Survivors. It should be noted that this is much easier to do when short Shredding, trying to long Shred and do this is far more difficult. To be fair, I do think a lot of Demo players are generally unaware that this is a thing outside of people who strictly main Demo since the community overall is still hasnt gotten past STBFL and a majority of people really do not understand the mechanics behind Shred. This being said, I do think Shred still has persistent issues. Crouch-techs can ruin a lot of plays for Demo and a lot of maps have weird tile geometry that really hinders Demo's ability to handle certain loops. Personally Ive been using Coup De Grace to make up for this downside since it at least gives me the leverage of having a longer lunge that I can curve around those tough-to-Shred objects.

[@pedrohenrique-kl2xr]

Billy and pyramid head in C is so out of reality

[@pacapacaZ]

In Japan, Hillbilly is still a killer whose chase ability is highly valued. However, compared to before, it takes longer to end the chase, and because of this difference, it is no longer possible to interfere with the survivors' gen comp. In the end, this game is about whether the survivors gen comp, and the chase is a secondary element.

[@LMCRedBush]

I suspect that survivors on Asian servers play less aggressively and more consciencously than western servers. That would explain why he emphasised the weakness of killers that depend on stealth (Pig, Skull Merchant, Ghostface), or can be countered by managing the side objective (Xeno, Sadako, Hag) or can just be pre-run (Artist, Wesker, Oni, PH). As a result, they would probably also be slightly worse in chase, which would explain why Vecna, Clown, Wraith, Dredge are so high.

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

He said that asian players are giga gens efficient

[@pacapacaZ]

@@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ That's right. In the world of gen comp speedruns, the killer has no time to leisurely enjoy the chase.

[@Antarctide]

I mean, Clown and Wraith legitimately are strong killers, nothing wrong with their ratings (Wraith def is too high, gotta admit), especially in public matches. And I fail to see how is Dredge a "chase killer". My guess is that he is controller-friendly, which clearly is a big deal for them.

[@lifted71blazer]

After reading comments on the original video, it seems like the reason someone like wesker or billy is low is mostly because the creator isn't good at them. This isn't me bashing on him either, he says so himself in multiple comments on the original video.

[@pacapacaZ]

To be precise, Zawashi said that certain specialists would be rated a little higher, but they were the exceptions and only truly top-tier players could do it, so they were not included in the tier table.

[@lifted71blazer]

@pacapacaZ He did say they could be bumped up a couple tiers if you were a specialist in those characters. However he also said the reason he had put them that low was because he himself isn't good at them. For example he mentioned the map a lot as a downside when talking about billy but if he was a better billy then the map would matter a lot less and he presumably would of rated him higher.

[@pacapacaZ]

@@lifted71blazer I should clarify that he himself used to be a Nurse and Hillbilly main. Compared to its past glory, Hillbilly has obviously been weakened, but the survivors have only suffered minor weakening. When considering a survivor who understands the theory behind fighting the Hillbilly, the general consensus is that the killer's chasing ability alone will not be enough to counter the survivor's gen comp ability.

[@lifted71blazer]

@@pacapacaZ Ok, I'm going to assume you are right about that. However how long ago was that? What version of Billy are we talking about? Also even if it was a somewhat recent version of billy some people need to constantly do something to not have their skill regress significantly. I implore you to just go read his comments on his own video, the 2 things he mentioned everytime was either something about the maps or something along the lines of "I personally am not that great at x killer". Me and you are both correct at what he said, I was just trying to convey the way he ranked his tier list. He was not trying to be objective about it, it was a purely subjective tierlist(most are) and his was made with more subjective criteria than someone like otz tends to make his. Nothing is wrong with that either by the way but clearly a lot of people were confused about how he ranked things.

[@Lorri.]

I was going to comment before I got too far into the video and suggest that maybe you should move your head cam to a better place next time. But all is good and you even made the Hen's "sound". For some reason, I love the "Ugghhhhh" lol

[@lyricalfroge5219]

I love these kind of projects! Seeing the differences in server culture is so interesting

[@monte_cristo_IE]

日本と西洋でキラーの評価が食い違う一番の要因は、セルフケアを持つサバイバーを相手にするかどうかだよね。多分。ゆえに中途半端なステルスキラーは評価が落ちるし、巡回性能が高くないキラーは負傷を撒くことが出来ても、サバイバーは一人で回復するから発電機の手が止まらなくて通電される。

[@Smite430]

It hurts to see that even the guy that pioneered the insta tech on vecna in Western servers can't see his actual strength. Can't complain too much tho. Less people want my main nerfed the better

[@nicane-9966]

Billy on C tier is crazy

[@Antarctide]

And PH. And Huntress. And Slinger. And Artist. And Wesker. And Trickster. It really feels like a controller tier list, which makes sense considering that 95% of Japan plays on console.

[@swatson5699]

My biggest issue with Western tier lists (ie Otz's tier lists) is they undervalue the best add ons. For a while Otz had pre-buff Myers as the worst or 2nd worst killer in the game when Tombstone Piece makes him extremely strong. And about 90% of the Myers I have gone against run Tombstone Piece. Ranking killers base kits or average add ons is, in my opinion, a massive mistake because it doesn't reflect actually game play (where both sides bring the strongest things possible).

[@P0choclo_]

The tier list is just "so this character is very map dependant" but that is no reason to put Huntress lower than Dredge for example

[@switcheroo3660]

I think it's cause Dredge has inherent anti loop potential (remnant) but if we're going off this guys (asian dude) logic; Hunty should be like A teir cause of her instadown hatchet Tldr: this entire list screams "skill issue"

[@iheartblock3792]

@@switcheroo3660 Asian players don’t prioritize chase potential as much as map pressure. Huntress has very bad map pressure but very good chase and snowball potential, which makes her strong in a western meta but not in an Asian one.

[@switcheroo3660]

@iheartblock3792 that doesn't make sense on someone like Artist, and Doc being so loud then. They both have insane map coverage/info and Artist more specific: more gen info

[@iheartblock3792]

@@switcheroo3660 it also generally seems like killers with dash attacks aren’t rated very highly. My guess is that on Asian servers, survivors know how to be a lot more unpredictable against these kinds of powers. Billy, Wesker, Artist, Xeno, etc are all rated kinda low.

[@zackmash851]

yeah he's very much saying "this killer may be better 94% of the time but because lerys exists we are dropping them 2 tiers" its a very bad way to make a tier list lol

[@MargeThatch]

Idk how you can rate a character by how good you yourself are at said character. Thats just not how you make a tierlist lol

[@shadyc7044]

3:06 "So, Asians have the same understanding of 1-5 as we do, okay, that's good to know that we didn't fuck even that up."

[@Beast_of_The_Blade]

The top 4 are basically the same, just that twins usually isn't in a S tier.

[@driplydollop9079]

as a wraith main this puts a smile on my face

[@crazymack556]

@ProfHens very interesting video! I wonder if there is more culture exchange content? maybe a show match between a west Ghostface (on Lerys) against a east survivor comp team? Then another match with east wraith vs west survivor comp team? Or maybe see examples of eastern games with these vastly different rankings of certain killers?

[@XaqNautilus]

Some truly shocking twists. Almost all of the ranged killers and Billy are in D tier below Clown. Really baffling. After 19:00 it comes into focus... it's his personal tierlist featuring his favorite addons and based on his own skill and he isn't trying to make and impartial list that is actually applicable to Asia. There's nothing wrong with that but it makes it not worth dicussing.

[@qellzxan155]

Some of the points in the list are interesting, but overall it's nonsense. I looked at his channel and what opponents he has... Overall I'm surprised that for his " "Strong"(Japan)" region trapper is not tier 1.

[@sonicthecoolest9033]

I can't stop thinking of seeing all Japanese killers are almost all on lowest tiers meanwhile in other regions all of them are at least B tier or better

[@theTOM-A-HAWK]

Some of their comments emphasising a killer's detection capabilites (or lack of) implies to me that stealthing is a very prevalent strategy in their region as opposed to Western ones

[@Huku__]

Why would Myers be too high? Tombstone sure but you also get to be around hook with insta down on command and you get increased lunge? You can secure hook stages and downs in places you shouldn't get?

[@camelnotllama]

wheb taking strongest addons into account i can see why pyramind head is lower than usual, but i can not see killers like oni being placed below A tier, especially with having tools that alleviate his struggle for blood orbs.

[@jamesrodriguezmerayo1682]

It may sound weird for many but I've personally always felt like most tier lists were kind of... off... (?) to me. It's nice to see that there's other people who have a completely different opinion on some killers and understanding why some common placements always felt so strange to me! I've always felt like vecta is a killer with more master ceiling that he's usually given or that artist doesn't feel that strong to some people else than I. I really enjoyed this video, I think checking other people's perspectives, specially on other completely different places on the planet, is always a very interesting and shocking experience!

[@billiam1285]

people think putting billy low is weird which i agree with, but the most surpising thing to me is that clown is above huntress, even though clown is almost objectively worse cuz he can’t injure with his power

[@almaweewoo]

Only one thing missing from this video "I hope you enjoy", other then that i love these analysing podcasty videos

[@CarminaMora19]

Let’s keep Artist in C tier so that she never gets nerfed

[@TigerKirby215]

Based on the American vs Japanese showcase you did I think Pinhead is ranked so high because Original Pain counters healing super hard. If you get hit with Deep Wound with a 99% heal, you lose all that healing progress.

[@Nortio]

Artist being c tier doesnt feel right. Shes easily A tier, B tuer at the very least. She is NOT worse than myers

[@ninjin20112]

マップを重視して考える傾向があるからかな