Profit, Productivity, and NPK with Dr Christine Jones

[@4given-c5h]

More useful science information flows from Dr. Jones in one 90 minute KZbin presentation than in a whole year’s worth of ag school.

[@noelroga4593]

We need 5 hours of Dr Christine Jones talking about these things plus all the pictures she intended to put in the slides plus even more of it. Even if she puts more study examples, yes to that.. and still i would watch it 10 times..another 10 times with notes on hand 😃

[@brennagarten317]

Thank you Lower Blackwood for presenting Dr. Christine Jones again. Brilliant again!

[@KimClark-1]

Worth every minute! Would love for her to go on and on and on. Such a wealth of practical knowledge. Thank you Dr. Jones and your host.

[@timpye6162]

exellent info. I'm loving the fact that we're finally respecting the intelligence of living soils, and having the humility to acknowledge the brillance of this unseen world on which our survival depends. I'm going out to plant (another) cover crop on my urban farm

[@tonysu8860]

If Dr Christine Jones gets this info, or anyone who creates these webinars, I can suggest some ways to avoid various technical difficulties Dr Jones has had in numerous presentations over the years... - Regarding popping up undesired slides, in all likelihood that is caused by using a mouse and even more likely exacerbated by using a trackpad which is common in laptops. I recommend using the mouse only to the point of setting up and then putting the mouse out of reach (or covering the trackpad with a piece of paper). Instead of using a mouse, use the arrow keys on your keyboard, it's very hard to accidentally click on something when using the arrow keys. - Regarding the audio feedback, the noise cancellation that's built into laptops works reasonably well only in more expensive laptops. Cheaper or older laptops or working with PC speakers is not advised without simply plugging in earphones or headphones to replace speakers. I do recommend plugging in instead of using Bluetooth, although Bluetooth is wireless convenience, it creates complications a lot of non-technical folk can't deal with. And, the earphones or headphones don't have to be particularly good or expensive to work, the cheapest that can be purchased at the local discount store for a couple dollars today will work just fine for audio conversations (might be found lacking if listening to music). Also, cheap earphones won't last long without extremely delicate care, the wires are so thin they could break after only about 5 uses, so if this is what is being used it might be prudent to buy a couple so at least one will be a backup if the first breaks. With good advice, it's possible to pay about $15-30 for earphones that won't break, and of course price has no ceiling if you're getting high quality gear that might be necessary for better audio but isn't critical for a webinar. The above are two simple solutions that will solve over 90% of the technical difficulties most people experience. The alternative would be to grab a friend who is technically proficient and have him/her spend some time with you teaching how these things work... And then you might enjoy some benefits like wireless BT headphones, even if you never move more than a few feet away from your computer it can be nice not to be tethered to the machine.

[@irishfruitandberries9059]

I live in Ireland and Christine is spot on about the nitrate issues in our water ways. Unfortunately not enough farmers have adopted this pro and Irelands largest lake turned to green algae sludge this year as a result

[@dpatel23]

In GMO seed, Microbiome DNAs are available?

[@James-ol2fr]

I have been loving these talks by Dr. Christine Jones. Thanks for having her and making this information public! I wonder if she would know how to figure out what was "supposed" to be grown on our land, and how to figure out how to revive herblands or grasslands with animals that weren't on it originally. I've read that europeans coming to America changed the grasses because their animals didn't like native species...? Anyone have any resources for things like this? Also, an curious to know whether landrace seeds taken from mixed species like she recommends get more and more of that bacteria with every generation within the seeds themselves.

[@timpye6162]

on compacted clay soil (rain affected mid north coast nsw) which winter annuals are recommended?

[@lowerblackwoodlcdc]

Hi Tim, why don't you try contacting Grant Sims from Down Under Covers for some advice www.downundercovers.com

[@Horse237]

@@lowerblackwoodlcdc We were told to us 4 or more plants from each of the 4 plant groups. So the first group I encountered is a Brynophyte which is a moss. I dug deeper and found a dozen examples, none of which I had heard of or could plant. Is there one URl that can give me realistic answers as to the 4 groups of plants and examples of plants from each group that I can plant? Thanks in advance.

[@nicolasbertin8552]

One thing that I would love to see is to compare biomass productivity between a man sown cover crop, and just letting nature do its thing. Because now in France, some farm actually let their soil grow what nature grows during periods where they're not growing anything, and they report they have even more biomass than with multi family cover crops. Because, as we know, soil has millions of native seeds in it, that only wait for the right conditions to germinate. If you soil is compacted, eroded, poor, water logged, only a few species that tolerate these conditions will grow, and the next year, after that issue is fixed by those plants, it'll be more diverse. And so on. Plus since those are native species, they grow faster and give more biomass. And it doesn't cost you a thing. Has Jena done that comparison or are they planning to do it ? It's nothing more than fallow land, but over 6 months. Centuries ago, farmers would till a field to weed it and release nutrients, do one crop, then leave that field as fallow land for 2 to 3 years so it would recover. They KNEW the soil needed to recover.

[@shadiyakingerlee365]

That was excellent, thanks. She mentioned a pdf of the talk, is it possible to get hold of it?

[@lowerblackwoodlcdc]

Hi Shadiya, its on our website lowerblackwood.com.au/new-events/2022/7/4/the-n-amp-p-solution

[@sherylpyers326]

​@lowerblackwoodlcdc the link is broken 😢

[@jimlewis1992]

15:30 Seeds bring the plant microbiome with them

[@dewinovianty8107]

😮 I was confused, John Kempf said that one important part of regenerative agriculture is to do seed treatment by covering the seeds with a variety of complete microbiologies, for example from compost tea or leaf mold soil or from the forest floor or Johnson su bio reactor etc., but Dr. Jones said since sprout seed only uses its default microbiology...

[@misacarter5128]

Yes Christine likes biostimulants on seeds - you can hear this on some of her other talks.

[@inigomontoya8943]

Phenomenal!

[@iwenive3390]

Are we counting palm as a grass?

[@tonysu8860]

Similarly, my thought was that corn is also a grass. I suppose that would count for plant diversity and maybe even an additional "function"

[@tinkeringinthailand8147]

Wow. This is god speaking to us, it makes so much sense. I'm gonna plant plant and plant on my 1/2 acre plot. Thanks

[@dogrudiyosun]

“Is it functioning?”😊❤

[@rorkgoose1774]

If the plant doesn't signal to soil microbes, encouraging growth of what it needs for its microbiome, but brings that biome with it, where do those microbes come from originally, and what if the seed comes from conditions where it doesn't have a healthy microbiome? Of course plants take up microbes from the soil, specific ones, and of course plants signal to microbes in the soil to grow specific ones that will work with and benefit the plant. Dr Jones seems hell bent on refuting anything Dr. Ingham has ever said. It's sad to see rivalry/hatred getting in the way of good info, but Dr. Jones seems to do this, on more than this occasion. I'm no Ingham fanboi either. I'm a truth fanboi.

[@timkinrade9533]

If you're a truth fanboi, why not let the world know that nearly everything Dr. Elaine Ingham has said on the internet is outdated and obsolete information that leads to wrong perspective? Elaine should start every talk with the sentence "If I said it more than two years ago, please disregard" because that is the very factual truth

[@Norbingel]

I do generally agree with you. But is it really rivalry/hatred? Perhaps just different findings which I think might happen due to different experimental conditions (although of course both seem to think their work got it right)? I'm inclined to just put their work together like putting diverse plants in but also spraying teas on there.

[@rorkgoose1774]

Also, she said that adding microbes to the soil, like from "a brew" is ineffective and they probably won't last more than a few minutes, is entirely false and has been shown to be false. This does work. I don't know what her problem is with the whole compost growing microbes is all about, but she needs to get past her ego. Otherwise, she presents great info.

[@RubberDuckStyle]

👍👍👍👍👍👊

[@jonathansendelbach2809]

There is bright momentary flash between each slide -makes the presentation unwatchable and harms the gentle flow of story, -will try listening like a podcast later… (without a big screen). Love Your work Dr. Jones!

[@tonysu8860]

Although I haven't noticed that flash, I frequently listen to these lectures by Dr Christine Jones doing something else or looking away, and only if I hear something particularly intriguing I back up the video and watch that segment.

[@randersen2171]

50 kg a hectar is less than 1/3 of what we seed. so ofc, its gonna be less when there is not a full cover.

[@robertreznik9330]

If only we could find microbes that could make gold then we would just buy the food we need.