Wheel of Prog - Pink Floyd with guest Jordan Rudess (Albums Tier List)

[@KevinSitaras]

Dream theater talk at 16:00 I know I’m your hero.

[@caza_arte9266]

indeed!🙌🏻

[@Marie-JoseeBourget]

For me Animals is better than The Wall. Animals may be their best album

[@diegocuneo9100]

No

[@PabloSaavedra84]

Nah, Meddle is even better than Animals. Lots of synergy. Animals it’s almost entirely Waters

[@KyleFagala]

I wish I understood the Animals love on that level. It just doesn't connect for me like that. It's no doubt great, and A Tier at minimum.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

I love both parts of "Pigs on the Wing", and I think "Dogs" is one of the best songs ever done, but "Pigs, Three Different Ones" is a bit too specific and tied to the year the album was released, and I don't much like "Sheep". 🤷‍♂ That's just the way I see these songs. I liked "Pigs, Three Different Ones" a lot when the album was released, but now I find it annoying that it seems many people sing it and don't realize that "Whitehouse" refers to a specific person in England, and not the White House in Washington DC.

[@MrBlackskye]

Id put Meddle much higher if they'd replaced or left off "Seamus" & "San Tropez"​@@PabloSaavedra84

[@lance98541]

Atom Heart Mother has been my #1 Floyd album since 1973. This ranking is nuts!

[@fabienaudinet7945]

I agree, Final cut is a bad piece and The Wall is boring

[@Leto1988]

These discussions are such a delight and I can't get enough of them

[@KyleFagala]

Thanks for watching! They are so fun to film too.

[@MrGnb123]

Thanks!

[@pjones8404]

I always post before I watch the show just to see how it compares. S: Animals, Meddle, Wish You Were Here, A: The Dark Side of the Moon, A Saucerful of Secrets, Piper at the Gates of Dawn, B: A Momentary Lapse of Reason, The Division Bell, The Wall, C: Obscured by Clouds, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother D: "More", The Endless River, The Final Cut

[@PartTimeBuddhist]

More may not be S tier, but I feel like it's got some gems on it: the haunting, pastoral "Cymbeline," the proto-Krautrock "Main Theme," the hard rocking and yet quite hooky "Ibiza Bar" ... it deserved more than the 16 seconds it got, man.

[@KyleFagala]

I had things I wanted to say about More. There’s some interesting stuff on it.

[@smios]

I know that I will repeat myself but this is probably the best show of KZbin. It’s out of the scope of the channel but it would be cool to see an Iron Maiden wheel of prog/metal

[@KyleFagala]

We’ve done a few “wheel of rock” episodes before so I could see us doing maiden one day!

[@simongalle3810]

@@KyleFagala that would be sweeeeeet

[@docbobster]

So great that Jordan joined you all for this. Personally, Ummagumma's live disk is one of my all-time favorite live albums. And like Jordan -- and maybe for similar reasons -- I love Granchester Meadows. The rest not so much, but really, the live disc alone is enough reason to seek it out.

[@glerp10000000000]

Piper was Pink Floyd in 1967. Comparing it to The Wall or Dark Side is going to do it a disservice. Saucer was an attempt to replicate that album without Syd. Let There Be More Light was Astronomy Domine. Set The Controls was Chapter 24 - take some oriental poetry and make it hippy/cosmic. Arnold Layne had a strange hobby, but Corporal Clegg had a wooden leg. The title track was Interstellar Overdrive but composed by architectural students rather than an art student. From there you had four people wandering what the hell to do next. Atom Heart Mother gave them an idea. Echoes improved on it. DSOTM was an album length extension of that. It was a hit. Roger wrote the lyrics - David and Rick had no desire to do so - and by extension decided what the album was about. This pattern was repeated for the next two albums. Then Roger decided to write all the music too. End of four piece Floyd....

[@jocularich]

It's always calming listen to JR talking in podcast, love this!

[@KyleFagala]

Jordan is the best. A true gentleman.

[@jimmypage2843]

He didn't even mention he did Echoes live with DT in Philadelphia.

[@sabinoabdala5685]

S: Animals,-Wish You Were Here-The Wall-Dark Side A: Meddle-Piper-Atom heart mother B: Saucerful of Secrets-More-Ummagumma C: Obscured by Clouds-Final Cut D: Division Bell-Momentary Lapse-Endless river

[@natehaskey9300]

I’ve been waiting!

[@danalbert7166]

Great episode and discussions before and during the ranking. I'll actually give my tiers since this is a group i'm familiar with the entire catalogue: S: Animals, Dark Side, Wish You Were Here A: Meddle, The Wall, Atom Heart B: Division Bell, Final Cut, Saucerful of Secrets C: Obscured by Clouds, Piper, Momentary Lapse D: Ummagumma, Endless River, More

[@KyleFagala]

Pretty similar to what we ended up with. I like it!

[@stephenjoyce7061]

Awesome episode! My ranking: S The Wall, Animals, Dark Side of the Moon A Meddle, Wish You Were Here, A Momentary Lapse of Reason B Saucerful of Secrets, Division Bell, Piper at the Gates of Dawn C Atom Heart Mother, Ummagumma, Obscured by Clouds D More, Endless River, Final Cut

[@iancherabier5920]

Oh i must have missed a dozen heartbeats listening to this wheel! Final Cut in A and Piper in C... 😭 Anyway this is why I love this show, there are always surprises! Keep rocking! 😊

[@williamgaudreau4394]

S: Animals, Wish You Were Here, The Wall, A: Dark Side, Meddle, Division Bell B: Atom heart mother, Final Cut, Endless river C: Obscured by Clouds, Piper, Momentary Lapse D: Saucerful of Secrets, More, Ummagumma,

[@markprice9579]

Switch Momentary Lapse and Meddle and I’m right with you

[@erikleenhouts834]

Fun episode again, thank you guys 🙏. for me: Animals on no.1, Division Bell in A, The Wall in B (sorry), Momentary Lapse in B. And most of all, thank you mr. Rudess! See you in Amsterdam with DT 🤘

[@joaquinbetter599]

Having the Final cut as an A while the division bell was written by the 3 members who actually made the music to rogers ego trip is so funny to me.

[@UncannyValleyVideos]

While More is definitely lower-tier, I wouldn't discard the entire album completely. "Cymbaline" became a staple in their setlist, and "The Nile Song" foreshadows the harder rock of late seventies Pink Floyd. I can't help but compare it to "The Gold It's in the...", which was the band once again dabbling in "conventional AM radio" rock--and failing, in my opinion.

[@jackpittens796]

S: Animals, Dark, Echos A: The Wall, Wish, Division B: Saucer, Atom, Momentary C: Obscured, Piper, Final D: Ummagumma, More, Endless

[@eriksenbriggs]

S: Animals - Moon - Wish A: Meddle - Wall - Atom B: Saucerful - Clouds - Piper C: Division - More - Ummagumma D: Final - Momentary - Endless

[@seancheek6196]

Swap Piper for animals and I'm with you all the way on this list.

[@youmothershouldknow4905]

Perfect 👍

[@JackRice007]

Division Bell is a little low for me, but other than that, I’m with you

[@richardwoodhouse8404]

Always great to hear from the greatest keyboard player there has ever been, this will be interesting for me as i count myself a casual fan. DREAM THEATER RULE ❤

[@erikleenhouts834]

Animals is no.1 for me, the rest of the list is sort of how I would rank them. Again very nice Wheel, enjoyed it a lot, thanks guys, and Mr. Jordan "Wizard" Rudess,🙏👍

[@howie5th]

I agree with you!

[@Leo-ci9kc]

Fun episode but I would change a few things. I'd drop The Wall to A sand move Animals to S. Then drop Final Cut to B and move Division Bell to A

[@alexfowler1490]

I’m still watching the video but surprised there was little to no talk about the middle tracks on Meddle. Pillow of Winds and Fearless are probably both in my top 10 Floyd songs! Even Seamus is a cool weird little blues song if you can get over the dog howling lol

[@KyleFagala]

We could have said more about all the albums. Especially More. 😂

[@Leto1988]

How about ranking Pain of Salvation albums? Would love to see what's your take on it guys.

[@elrincondelocutre9884]

S: Wish - Animals - Moon - Wall - Meddle - Piper A: Atom - Saucerful B: Clouds - Division C: More - Ummagumma - Final D: Momentary - Endless

[@dagreatstoney.5869]

Not really a big Floyd fan , but have enjoyed their music from a distance, great content 👍

[@GabrielFreitas30]

I could listen to Jordan talk about music for freaking 6 hours easily!

[@leethomas2155]

The Endless River is criminally underrated.

[@douglaspowell5971]

Yay new wheel! Not as divisive as I thought it might be-I would swap Division Bell with Final Cut. Thanks for more fun content, boys!

[@progreport]

Thanks!

[@danielkrause7914]

S: Animals - DSOTM - WYWH A: Division Bell - Meddle - Wall B: Momentary - Saucerful - Atom Heart Mother C: Piper - Ummagumma - Obscured by Clouds D: More - Final - Endless

[@DarcMurkee]

What would it take to get involved with one of these panels? I live for this type of thing lol, so much fun

[@wavesgroup2768]

Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast is a classic - love it...

[@w3sip]

The Final Cut is about 2 positions too high. Division Bell (and TMLOR) is 1 or 2 positions too low. I can live with the rest.

[@glerp10000000000]

S: Wish - DSOTM - Animals A: Meddle - More - Piper B: Wall - Division - Saucer C : Ummagumma - Clouds - AHM D: Momentary - Final Cut - Endless

[@kenl2091]

Some weird opinions there but then again, I've watched your channel before! My opinion is as below but I'll say again, the best Pink Floyd album is one with Echoes on one side and Atom Heart Mother on the other. S: Animals, WYWH, Meddle A: AHM, DSoTM, SoS B: Piper, Division Bell, The Wall C: Ummagumma, More, Momentary Lapse D: Obscured, Endless River, Final Cut. I will brook little argument.

[@carlpeterson8182]

S: Animals, Dark, Wall A: Wish, Meddle, Those above are the ones I really love. Division B Atom, Momentary, Saucer C: Obscured, Piper, Final, D: More, Endless, Ummagumma,

[@drewhaueter4502]

1. When I look at the Meddle album cover I have always seen a Camels head 2. Am I the only one that owns The Wall in black writing? All I ever see is the red writing

[@Leo-ci9kc]

I have the black letters, don't know where the red came from.

[@jamesshelton2179]

I also rank The Final Cut as an A tier album. The emotion of the album is palpable.

[@KyleFagala]

Yes!! Finally. Someone who gets me! 🎉

[@MrStrawberry86]

It's just Rogers awful voice whining on and on and on with very little music and that is not what I want from a pink floyd album at all. The lyrics are great though

[@KyleFagala]

@@MrStrawberry86 It definitely lacks the grand musical landscapes of their other works. I just appreciate it for what it is and always enjoy listening to it. But, I do fully comprehend why others don't like it.

[@MrStrawberry86]

@KyleFagala I don't dislike it necessarily just think there's way too much of roger and his ego whining on with not much else to balance it or enrich the listening experience. I personally think the division bell is a much stronger album with a much stronger listening experience over all.

[@arzabael]

You guys should do an episode where you talk about Dark Side being played with Wizard of Oz, maybe talk history a little, but mainly talk about other great concept albums and other great controversially esoteric films like Wizard of Oz that you’d like to see if there are perfect scene lengths and song lengths and basically a search for other music that has movies that can be played with it to sort of glean secret messages from

[@KyleFagala]

We should do a Mystery Science Theater style "Dark Side of Oz" one day...

[@arzabael]

@@KyleFagala I’d click that thumbnail faster than a-train on tech V

[@KyleFagala]

@@arzabael Honestly, I'd love to do this. I'll talk to the gang about it!

[@arzabael]

@@KyleFagala yipppeee!! Very cool

[@essenumtem]

Suggestion: order the tiers order of importance at the end of everything. During the wheel part, leave the album as it was called. Thanks again for another great video !!

[@toddspango]

The cover for Echoes is supposed to be "Seeing Sounds." I love the concept, and I like the minimalism, which was fashionable then.

[@LarsBjerregaard]

Good one guys! For me the S-tier has always been: Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, Animals. I guess it's a musical taste thing and you certainly can't deny that The Wall is an extremely well crafted and very musical album.

[@jimschroeder1176]

Final Cut A? Does Kyle listen to Floyd? S = DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, Animals A = The Wall, Meddle, Division Bell B= Obscured by Clouds, Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother C= Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, Final Cut D= Ummagumma, Endless River, More

[@KyleFagala]

FC is my 6th favorite PF album. It’s an A tier album by convention of having 3 albums in each tier. I don’t consider it on the same level as their 5 best albums, fwiw.

[@jimschroeder1176]

@@KyleFagala the Final Cut demonstrates how much Richard Wright contributed to the sound of Pink Floyd. I don’t mind this album, and I think it gets more hate than it deserves. However, to put it as A tier is to put it ahead of many far better albums, imo. I also think the Wall is a little overrated, even though I put it as A tier. Animals is my favourite album.

[@KyleFagala]

@@jimschroeder1176 I hear you and agree about the RW comment. It also doesn't feature much in the way of the soundscapes and guitar solos that Gilmour is known for. I tried my best to explain that it's one I more personally connect with. I don't expect it's A-tier for most fans, and that's fine. I do struggle to find a 6th album of theirs that I prefer more than FC, so that's why I ended up there. As I worked through my ranking list, it was in B-tier at one point.

[@doscwolny2221]

​@@KyleFagalait's alright. The final cut emotionally connects with me. I'd rank it roughly about 6th as well. It's not for everyone, a bit like mushrooms.

[@KyleFagala]

@@doscwolny2221 And see. I love mushrooms. :)

[@MusicGunn]

Just my opinion... 1. Dark Side of the Moon (Best Album of all time!) 2. Animals (Dogs is one of the greatest guitar tracks of all time) 3. Wish You Were Here 4. Meddle (I just have the greatest memory of an experience I had with Echoes and driving in fog, not LSD related) 5. Atom Heart Mother/The Wall (Sacrilegious I know to put The Wall this low but, if it wasn't for the greatest guitar solo ever put on tape, it wouldn't even be here. Also another great memory of the first time I heard AHM on a pirate radio station in the 70s) You can flush The Final Cut. I can't listen to any of it. It breaks my heart that Waters treated Wright so badly, even if it was somewhat deserved.

[@mountzod]

I used to go for long walks and listen to Ummagumma and one day I just fell in love with it; something clicked. Also the way I fell in love with In the Wake of Poseidon by King Crimson.

[@toddspango]

OK, then. Here's my tiers. S - Saucerful, Obscured, Piper A - Meddle, More, Atom Heart Mother B - Dark SIde, Ummagumma, Animals C - WYWH, Division Bell (?), Endless River (?) D - Final Cut (?), The Wall, Momentary Lapse of Reason °The thing that informs this list more than anything else, I suppose, is that I "get" the sixties. You all are very seventies-oriented which is fine, but I was around in the sixties, and I understand that sound & style. °Anything with the (?) symbol next to it is something I haven't heard, or haven't heard enough. °I'm actually kind of thrilled to hear The Endless River, because I think Richard Wright is the best songwriter and musician in Pink Floyd. "Paint Box" is my current favorite Pink Floyd song. °Experimental Pink Floyd is the band firing on all creative cylinders. °Everyone talks about how they "cracked the code" with DSotM. My assertion is that they cracked one particularly difficult code, but not THE code. There is no one code. The creativitiy and vision of their first 8 albums is remarkable. After Dark Side of the Moon, they could only try to re-create that experience, and note -- they only lasted 2 albums past that one *as a band.* I think they found it as boring as I did, to make Dark Side of the Moon endlessly until they just... stopped. °Soundtrack From Morehas the most Pink Floyd songs I want to cover on it. I want to do Cymbaline, The Crying Song, and Green is the Color. I think that's all I have for now.

[@archonio]

That's a refreshingly interesting review. The first couple of years I delved into PF, Dark Side, Echoes, WYWH, Animals and The Wall were all the albums that did anything for me. However, after discovering psychedelia, I went on to explore Saucerful, Obscured, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother etc, and that really widened my lense of appreciation for what PF could provide. With that said, that didn't stop me from re-visiting the aforementioned on said substances, thus making me appreciate them even more. But I think my 'opened mind' elevated, say, Saucerful from a D-tier album to a strong A-tier album. An incredible band, nonetheless

[@JohnHead]

Wish you guys had asked Jordan about his guest appearance on the new All That Remains album! Jason Richardson announced it on an interview with Nik Nocturnal w/ Phil. That combo is going to be crazy!

[@AlmightyBruce]

*S+* The Dark Side of the Moon Wish You Were Here Animals *S* Piper at the Gates of Dawn Meddle The Wall *A* A Saucerful of Secrets The Division Bell *B* Atom Heart Mother Obscured by Clouds The Final Cut A Momentary Lapse of Reason *C* Ummagumma The Endless River *D* More S+ Tier are Floyd albums that would be in the top 40 of all time. S Tier are Floyd albums that would be in top 300 of all time.

[@HawksNHabsPC]

S - Animals, Division Bell, Wish You Were Here A - Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall B - Meddle, Atom Heart Mother

[@progreport]

What are your tiers?

[@Neo-Midgar]

S: Animals, WYWH, Dark Side A: Meddle, The Wall, Piper B: Division Bell, Obscured, Atom Heart C: Momentary Lapse, Final Cut, Saucerful D: Ummagumma, More, Endless River

[@flyingteapot2561]

Following the 3 albums per tier rule (which makes this so difficult!) S tier: Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals A tier: Meddle, The Wall, Piper at the Gates of Dawn B tier: The Division Bell, Saucerful of Secrets, Ummagumma (for the live album alone) C tier: Atom Heart Mother, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, Obscured by Clouds D tier: More, The Final Cut, The Endless River

[@Luke.A.M]

Wheel of Psych - King Gizzard and the Lizzard Wizzard

[@jamesshelton2179]

I appreciated how Roger's band back in 99/00 sped Dogs up just a bit. Made all the difference or me.

[@juzbustin]

1. Animals 2. Wish You Were Here 3. The Dark Side of the Moon 4. Atom Heart Mother 5. The Wall 6. Meddle 7. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 8. The Final Cut 9. A Saucerful of Secrets 10. The Division Bell 11. Obscured by Clouds 12. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 13. The Endless River 14. Ummagumma 15. More

[@seancheek6196]

Swap Piper for animals and I'm with you all the way

[@wavesgroup2768]

Momentary Lapse > Division Bell More > Obscured by Clouds Grantchester Meadows is gorgeous

[@alexfowler1490]

S Meddle, Dark Side, Animals A Wish, Saucerful, Piper B Obscured, Wall, Division C Atom, More, Umma D Final Cut, Momentary, Endless

[@tanis7050]

Ummagumma ON D LOL

[@Mr_Man_7803]

Need to do a Pain of Salvation album tier list.

[@progreport]

Daniel keeps asking too.

[@patriotpizzaman]

Roy Harper crushed it on Have a Cigar! Such a jubilant performance. I think Roger's performance was affected by how he felt about the song's subject whereas Roy could play the role of the music company shill effectively because he hadn't been the one who penned the song. Roger sang it from a darker place reflecting the insidious nature of his own experiences with the music business. The new version of Momentary Lapse is great. The only song I didn't like the changes on was Sorrow (my favorite track). S Tier A Tier B Tier C Tier D Tier ================================================================================================= Animals The Wall Momentary Lapse Endless River Atom Heart Mother Wish You Were Here Division Bell Final Cut Saucer Full of Secrets More Dark Side of the Moon Meddle Obscured By Clouds Piper at the Gates Ummagumma

[@fabienvalmor1568]

Come on Ummagumma's live is amazing and I agree with Jordan, the mellow Waters's song is beautiful even if I prefers Gilmour's song, I also kind of like Wright's piece.

[@BassGoBomb]

Nice comments from Kyle on Final Cut .. It's a Brit album, maybe and it's true people wanted The Wall Pt 2 .. The fact it's only Waters and it's called a Pink Floyd album doesn't detract from it's art, for me, that is.

[@jamesangelo777]

Ummagumma Is one of their best, pure avant garde and very well crafted.

[@anthonyfarshaw8619]

@@jamesangelo777 It's tuneless crap

[@necroplastful]

@@anthonyfarshaw8619 Honestly anyone who believes anything pre Meddle is genius is one of those artsy type of boring people. I hate people like that to be honest.

[@kingdiamondscream]

You 2 don't get it, but it's fine. The ones that understand will enjoy the brilliance and you can call it artsy from your coffee shop

[@benscheidegger122]

​@necroplastful I agree with you that ummagumma was not a good production but I think ummagumma was necessary for Pink Floyd as a band to reach the next level by taking a step back and exploring their creativity. Perhaps they were trying to be to creative and that was probably their mistake but it was truly a stepping stone for them to evolve musically. It's always easier to make judgements with hindsight but during the inception of the Pink floyd Sound during the late 60s, in their present. They were truly an important Innovative band that was ahead of its time in so many ways.

[@jamesangelo777]

@@anthonyfarshaw8619 there's something called Avant Garde, or modern classical music, in the mid 20 Century this tipe of experimentation was crutial and very important; composers like stockhausen, Olivier Messiaen, iannis xenakis, Bruno Maderna just to name a few. The Floyd (specially Rick Wright) we're very interested in this aproach, and this period gave to their music a much richer an wider range. Maybe their only mistake, in retrospective, was to give Avant Garde music to an audience who wasn't prepared for that, an audience of millions that only consumes popular culture

[@damianvergaradominguez8484]

Agree with Roie, I also have Animals very high, the one I enjoy the most probably

[@FoutstoChandler]

Cool. Waiting for Marillion Iron Maiden Deep Purple hopefully

[@VindictiveRaider]

More is a great album. It's obvious that the majority these guys have just never took the time to listen to some of these albums. Oh and I love you jordan.😁

[@KyleFagala]

To be fair, I've listened to all these albums multiple times. I did 2 full re-listens in advance of this podcast.

[@MrGnb123]

I've been listening to all of these albums for more than 30 years, and like Kyle revisited them all ahead of the episode. Where would you rank More compared to the rest of the catalogue?

[@KyleFagala]

@@MrGnb123 I could listen to More 50 more times and I'd still rank it as a D-Tier album.

[@VindictiveRaider]

​@KyleFagala fair enough. I'm sure you did your homework before you did the video. I have to realize at the end of the day.We all have our own lists and That's the list that should be more important to the individual than anything else. I'm going to disagree From time to time to time , but that's not gonna stop me from watching. Keep up the good work.

[@VindictiveRaider]

​@@MrGnb123I have More in B. Dark side,Animals. The wall. Meddle, Wish AHM Obscured More Pipers. Final cut, Saucerful Umma Momentary. Division bell then river. . That's my list. And the one list that matters most to me.🙂

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

I'd move "Momentary Lapse of Reason" into A, and move "The Final Cut" down to C. I also like both the original version of MLoR and the remixed "modernized" version. I'll note that I really have kept listening to MLoR for all these years. And I like "Ummagumma" mainly for the song "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict". 🙂 And I'd drop "Piper" down to D. Yes, I was listening to rock music when that album was released, and it was a notable release just because it was so different from anything else that was going on. But I'd say that since the 1980's I haven't listened to it much (except for "Astronomy Dominé"!). There are just too many other albums which have a better collection of songs than Piper.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

Oh, and I'd also put "Wish You Were Here" ahead of both DSotM and The Wall, but I totally agree that all three of those belong in the absolute top tier.

[@fmainier]

The Final Cut so high ruins the credibility of this list

[@progreport]

😂

[@user-yk4gd1fl4z]

Yeah it blows. Hard.

[@charleswagner2984]

​@@progreportThe Final Cut is my favorite PF album. The Wall is good, but overrated.

[@AngryCalvin]

To each their own. I'm really not a fan of The Wall either. But anything else 70's Pink Floyd is the reason I have been a fan for many years. What a decade!

[@filipdzero8739]

Haven't watched yet. Meddle better be at least in A tier or higher than post-Wall albums.

[@KyleFagala]

You won't be disappointed...

[@AngryCalvin]

Obscured by Clouds might be the weakest 70's album but it's also one of the most beautiful to listen to. I've listened to countless times as well as all their albums from that decade. After the 70's nothing really sticks out as great. Just enjoyable.

[@F.O.H.]

IMO, post phsyadelia, Fat Old Sun is the 1st song that sets PF on their true path, before anything on Meddle.

[@herrdwabash]

The new remix of "Momentary Lapse of Reason" is SO MUCH BETTER than the original release. 'Dogs of War' is actually listenable now under the remix!!!

[@progreport]

Agreed.

[@MrGnb123]

So if it was a remix, I may well agree with you. But to me it’s a re-MAKE - new keyboard tracks, new drum tracks. It’s an interesting thing to have to listen to but it didn’t make me enjoy AMLOR any more than I’d already enjoyed it for more than 30 years. When the album came out, Roger referred to it as a “pretty fair forgery” of Pink Floyd - for me the remake tried to actually do that and make it sound more Floydy. It is what it is and the decisions the band made at the time should really stand. But … it’s an interesting alternative view of the songs.

[@KyleFagala]

I was referring to the drums. I prefer how they sound on the original.

[@doscwolny2221]

Good show. Floyd have 1 crap album- endless drivel. 1 good album-momentary. Lots of superb albums,final cut, ahm,wywh,more,obscured,the wall,pipers. And my 4 favourites, 1. Animals. 2. Dsotm 3. Ummagumma(whats wrong with everyone) and 4. Saucerful My favourite band by far.

[@MrFadefury]

Wish there would have been some clarification on Rodger's supposed concerning politics or whatever. Not sure I can think of all that much that is all that concerning, but dammit was I waiting to hear what was of concern during the Final Cut album rating...If not just in general.

[@grahamhowes6904]

Atom Heart Mother was a collaboration with composer Ron Geesin and waters and Gilmour both hated it. Geesin also worked with the band on a documentary called THE BODY. Nick still plays a version with his SAUCERFUL OF SECRETS. I love it. I think MEDDLE is the great transition album. I introduced the band onstage at it’s preview in Norwich prior to it’s ‘world premiere’. Echoes is my favourite of all time. I prefer the last ever live performance with Rick before he died at Gdańsk with the Gilmour project, Umma Gumma I grew up with and it was for all of us ‘heads’ the ultimate album. The live sides are wonderful plus GRANCHESTER MEADOWS some of the rest is disposable agreed. There is some good stuff on the film albums are often forgotten - MORE and OBSCURED BY CLOUDS and ZABRISKIE POINT. WISH YOU WERE HERE and ANIMALS are excellent. DARK SIDE enough said. THE FINAL CUT and subsequent Waters albums for me unlistenable. I like all of Gilmour’s output after Waters left both with PF - I love DIVISION BELL and his band which has 3/4 of post Waters PF anyway (Guy Pratt! - his dad was an actor) ! The Gilmour Gdańsk has some definitive performances of the PF catalogue. PULSE which lets remember has no Waters is one of the finest concerts ever. I wish more attention was given to Rick’s contribution as he was the bedrock on which the rest took off. THE WALL for me is patchy. I have a lot of love for EMBRYO which was played live a lot and actually recorded and released oddly on a Harvest sampler album called PICNIC and I think on some of the anthologies.

[@pauljordan8033]

Totally agree. Atom Heart Mother Suite is a totally disjointed mess.

[@timiskra4355]

Freaking out!

[@BassGoBomb]

True and very valid point at 40.00 mins .. Discussed much at many other places here on YT .. But Prog doesn't exist much for the very reason given i.e. No one is really allowed to be 'progressive' and experiment .. not really .. or they are unheard of .. which Floyd, Camel, Softties, King Crimson etc., were not in their day .. Everything, imo, throughout life, is TOO CONTROLLED these days ..

[@UR_Right24]

Why do so many people not care that much for MLOR? I love that album so much. Sonically, it just takes you on a journey. It makes you feel like you're flying, which is obviously intentional given the flight theme of the album. It's uplifting at times but also dark and melancholy at other times, with the moody saxophones accompanying the heavenly synth sounds on certain songs. Instrumentally at least, it really moves me. And also, I just prefer Gilmore's singing voice much more than Roger Water's voice, even if lyrically I tend to like Roger Water's lyrics more and the concepts of the albums he is on more. I guess with regard to Pink Floyd, there are one of two camps you fall into, just like with Van Halen, where you are either a Roth or a Hagar guy, where with Floyd, you're either a Waters or Gilmore guy. I guess if Waters is akin to Roth, and Gilmore is akin to Hagar, then that means I'm a Gilmore and Hagar guy. MLOR would be on the A line for me, not quite grand enough to be on the top line like Darkside, Animals, The Wall, and Wish You Were Here would be. I wouldn't be able to adhere to just 3 albums on the top line. There's like 5 albums of theirs I'd have up there. I liked MLOR considerably more than Division Bell though, which I also like alot, but I would put DB on the B line. But to be fair, I don't know Pink Floyd's entire discography backwards and forwards the way I do a band like Rush, so, grain of salt.

[@progreport]

We said good things mostly.

[@UR_Right24]

​@@progreportYep I know, I was just more referring to the consensus in the comments.

[@seancheek6196]

What?!? No Zabdask Point?

[@MrGnb123]

Correct. Pink Floyd contributed a few tracks to a soundtrack album. There is no official Pink Floyd Zabriskie Point album to rank

[@michaellord9745]

This Kyle guy is a real monkey wrench. S = DSOM, Wish, Animals A = The Wall, Meddle B = Momentary, Division C = Final Cut, Obscured D = Endless River and all the rest

[@KyleFagala]

My bad!

[@doscwolny2221]

​@@KyleFagalathat Kyle guy has his own opinions. Good on you. My Floyd taste is fairly similar. Don't feed the trolls Kyle.

[@KyleFagala]

@@doscwolny2221 Thank you, good sir!

[@keithshapland903]

I remember the legendary DJ Alan Freeman playing an exclusive pre-release broadcast of the whole of Wish You were here on his BBC Radio 1 rockshow on a Saturday afternoon back in 1975. Being the first hearing I was convinced and annoyed the radio had lost it's signal on the station tuning at the end of have a cigar before Shine on comes in...again. Then I realised it was on the album lol. DSOTM, WYWH, and Animals top tier. FInal Cut is D for me, no way in same tier as Meddle...I don't enjoy it as it is Roger Waters total control and kicking Rick Wright out was poor.

[@brettengland192]

Kyle, don't apologize for "The Final Cut." It's an "S" tier all the way.

[@vittusossi]

Mike Portnoy sent me here 🎉

[@fmainier]

I’m sorry but Kyle is not a Pink Floyd fan…maybe a Waters fan boy

[@progreport]

False.

[@KyleFagala]

That definitely isn’t true. There’s plenty about Waters that I don’t like. I do appreciate his contributions to the band and they definitely missed him on their final 2 official releases. For me, TFC is my 6th favorite PF album, but it’s close. On a different day, #6 could go to AHM, Obscured, or The Division Bell. But, I overall prefer the impact of TFC.

[@kevinmateo4599]

just ANIMALS

[@philliplloyd1518]

Dark Side of the moon is floyd's best album and one of the best albums of all time period. Contrarians talking about animals being better is starting to get annoying.

[@seanlowery7810]

they better not disappoint! Meddle is S tier! lol

[@progreport]

Uh-oh. 😂

[@seanlowery7810]

@@progreport this blasphemy will not pass!

[@seancheek6196]

Ummagumma live album is S tier for sure

[@CanadianJables]

@@progreport say it ain't so!

[@lomafeurma9744]

Animals is S tier n Meddle has 1 bad song on it. You know what i am talking about.

[@christianschoenewald]

As I have gotten older The Wall has slipped further and further down in my list of Pink Floyd albums I want to listen to. Side one is the only part of the album that I really want to listen to, side two is OK, side three has two really good moments on it, and side four is almost worthless. At this point, I would have it last in line on the. c level. Going all the way back to the beginning of me being a fan of the band, up through today, the album that I almost never listen to, and don’t think I’ve ever gotten the whole way through once, is the final cut, for me this album fails in almost every regard. The complete absence of Rick Wright is very noticeable, and the almost complete absence of Nick Mason is just as noticeable. I miss the absence of Nick and Rick substantially more than I miss the absence of Roger on the final three albums. P.S. using the two versions of Delicate Sound of Thunder you can now have all of Momentary Lapse of Reason live, doing it that way makes MLR an A tier album.

[@charleswagner2984]

The Nile Song alone puts More in C.

[@alvarojflorez]

Animals is better than The Wall and Wish You Were Here and I'll fight anyone over it.

[@ledzep9501]

Animals Animals Animals 😎😎😎

[@alessandromininni8112]

We definitely need a Sex Pistols Wheel of Prog edition

[@progreport]

Haha, can guarantee that's not happening.

[@anthonyfarshaw8619]

Finaal Kut on A? Now I can't take this tier seriously.

[@wurm90125]

Final Cut is a D tier album. Totally agree.

[@KyleFagala]

Whoops!

[@doscwolny2221]

More>>>obscured by clouds.

[@SuSaNa_PT]

A: animals, wish, dark side

[@jamesshelton2179]

For me, replace The Wall with Animals in S tier.

[@fmainier]

The Wall is great but overrated. Top 3 Dark Side, Wish and Animals

[@progreport]

Overrated?? Nah.

[@dornishraven1628]

Final Cut has gotta move down. Not a bad album but looks so out of place in A tier.

[@ranlit7717]

LOVED listening to this episode I have to say though, placing The Wall in S-tier feels wrong to me hahahha. Just a personal opinion, I believe The Wall is one of the most overrated albums.

[@eleuthera10]

The final cut equals d tear. Only ummagunma is worse