Project 2015 Outback: Firm Your Handling On Your Outback With This Simple & Quick Sway Bar Upgrade!

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[@VideoNOLA]

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[@user-yt6nw2de5y]

Hi 1st love this channel!!! I am from Canada and I upgraded the rear sway bar on my 2011 Forester and 2011 Impreza 5 door; I immediately regretted it in the SNOW. In changing the balance to favour the rear it was delightful for the for 3 seasons of the year. However when there was 2-3cm of snow I had to be careful as the front brakes would lock up because they would have less traction. So I caution those in northern climates. Thanks enjoy this channel!

[@watchingdanny]

YESSSSS !! I did the 20mm from the STI with Moog end links that have grease fittings. Absolutely massive improvement. Must-do-mod if there ever was one. Excellent video series. Love it.

[@Dallmke]

You realize that every DIYer north of the Ohio River is cussing you and your lack of rust! Seriously, your videos are awesome. Thank you for your time doing them.

[@buttsexandbananapeels]

Krown treatments. My 2010 has been done annually since new and nothing more substantial than surface rust. At least everywhere but the bearing and rotors… still need Peter Gabriel for those (the sledgehammer).

[@yal100]

Yup, I use Salt-Away during the winter in a vacuum garden sprayer to soak the underneath. Its been helping so far. Also water hose down the underneath whenever we peak above freezing. Bearings is a whole different thing, not looking forward to my first wheel bearing job.

[@buttsexandbananapeels]

@@yal100 Bring rage, a bearing bar, and a heavy friend.

[@CAMCAM413]

helped a friend install an upgraded sway bar.. huge difference indeed.

[@phillipjohnson5868]

Did the 20mm upgrade to my 2012 Outback limited and the difference was notable!

[@daletorres2547]

I did that on my 15 Forester xt too. I was told the sway bar was a factory part from of the STI. They 19 and 20 mm options

[@mdonola]

You make everything look so easy ! That's when experience rules 🙌🙌

[@bullnukeoldman3794]

I've installed the 19mm swaybar on three Gen 4 Outbacks (two 2011s and a 2014). A definite improvement in ride and handling especially in crosswinds.

[@firebir11]

is the procedure the same? Parts numbers?on 2014 outback, thanks

[@BWGPEI]

Love to see a plan come together. Many Thanks!

[@kerrylewis2581]

Hello from New Hampshire. These rust-free southern cars have me drooling. Stop using salt and go back to sand

[@timin770]

Man, I've lived with salt before but now I'm in ATL. GD that salt

[@jmg4208]

Upgrade tutorial, nice to see something different. Went Whiteline performance on my 03, ❤ it !

[@edwardcornell1263]

I did that on my 2006 subaru outback. Mine used a 16mm as well. Got mine from whiteline performance.

[@jmg4208]

They offer great product & service

[@MrPoppyDuck]

Thanks to your vid I installed the same. What a difference in cornering! It was tough to compress the new bushings to install the bar. I went with Moog end links since I live in the rust belt. The old links were crusty. Thank you for the great video!

[@estorey1465]

Great series thanks

[@williamevans6522]

Good mod. I did this using a wrx sway and new ENERGY SUSPENSION greaseable poly bushings.

[@angelsepulveda8393]

Excellent video as always Mr. Subaru! I just have one question. Will this also work on my 2016 Legacy 3.6R and if so will it affect ride quality?

[@kidwelldavid6136]

That was new. Thanks for that information.

[@default7950]

Did this on a 2014 and 2016 Outback, and when I ordered my 2018 3.6 I had the 19mm sway bar sitting in my garage months before I even had the car. I actually had it so long, I was bored and threw it on my wife's 2017 Forester XT (which I hated driving because it floated around so much, especially on the highway) and after I drove it the car was SO DIFFERENT I thought, "How frickin' stupid to have upgraded my Outbacks and not the Foresters!"

[@slerched]

Sold my 2007 Outback for a 2015. I loved my '07. '15? Not so much. It went from being fun to drive in the '07 to super boring in the '15. Both were the standard, non-turbo/non-6 cyl engine but the '15 was just a boring drive. Got tired of oil burning, so I traded the '15 to a '23 with the turbo. My drive is no longer boring and I actually started looking forward to driving again.

[@armith]

Did the 19mm on my 2012 OB and made a big difference especially when toyhauling in the Smokies.. When I bought my 2015 OB first month of ownership the 19mm went on. If road handling is a thing for you at all, this should be the first mod for any gen4 or gen 5.

[@theronsmith8244]

Thanks for sharing

[@blunismo1]

noticable difference as well on an impreza. I swapped it out with a crosstrek (19mm I think)

[@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032]

I went with the 20mm RSB on my 19 Legacy!

[@Makaveli6103]

This was the first thing I did when I got my 2015 back in 2016.

[@user-vs7ec1wz5d]

I am going to see if they make a heavier sway bar for my 2022 Subaru Ascent Limited. If so, on she goes. Thanks for the video.

[@timbrown9731]

I just wanted to add one other thing guys when you go and tighten the bolts that hold the swaybar bushings don’t be surprised if the nut on the other side breaks loose from the weld….😅

[@barrythomas6429]

I have gone thru two sets rear Shocks on my 06XT > still have the factory swaybar links fitted.

[@bellyacres7846]

Good Job! that looked ez [just a suggestion] might just keep those straps loose (finger tight) to help make the ends a little easier to move into place? you did just fine getting it into place, just "might" be a little easier to manage if the tightening is saved till last? my outback is a 2014 [about 89k miles] it seems fine, but is the rear sway bar upgrade needed? Thanks to your vids I was able to change spark plugs & my brakes front to rear. thank you so much for your Sub brake bleeding procedure! RF-LR-RF-RR as that was what I needed. THANK YOU! Ive had this car since new. Im 6'6" and it kinda fits me. we have a few other subies from old 1987 to 2019 your channel has saved me many times

[@papilloncycles3463]

What is the sway bar upgrade that you would recommend for my 1994 Subaru Legacy L Wagon? Just wondering, I love the car and it could use a bit of more stiffness back there!

[@royportalise5269]

Will you having an episode on a full detail on the 15 Outback? I'm in the market to buy a new Forester. Which is your favorite trim level and why? I'm divided on the the Sport and Wilderness? I'm also waiting for the 24's to come out. Thank you and have a good weekend.

[@johnsb1550]

Great video, as always 👍. You torque to Newton-metre, is it more accurate? I am just curious.

[@gobarcelona12345]

Newton meters tend to be an easier measurement, foot pounds tend to be weird measurement because subaru uses metric. I work at a dealership and use newton meters for all my torque specs. Hope this helps!

[@youtuber5709]

Mr Subaru does the 2015 sedan legacy 3.6 have the same smaller swaybar in the rear axle too .

[@roberts2714]

Good video! Would this be a good enhancement for a 2017 Forester Limited 2.5l ?

[@Bswedhin]

Why did you choose the own wrx/still 19mm vs the sti 20mm? I did the 20mm on my 11 forester and love theupgrade. But I did get mine used but looked brand new for $50 with bushings and sti end links so couldn't pass up a deal like that.

[@chrisb9478]

I put a 19mm Wrx rear sway bar on my 2012 Outback 3.6R, it drove way better. Our 2021 Outback Touring XT drives fine stock though. 🧐

[@codemiesterbeats]

Mr. Subaru do you happen to know who makes the matco "hose pinching pliers"?

[@david100483]

I used to have a 2016 outback and now have a 2022 one. Would this upgrade improve the small jerking/bouncing (side to side) when turning into a curb or different grade? Not sure I’m explaining correctly lol

[@andrewwright558]

How about the front stabilizer bar, any OE swaps to a bigger bar available?

[@scottjohnson5449]

hey wait a minute.... i was hoping for a test drive vid. also.... i feel so cheated. oh well as long as it ran and worked good. another car saved from the scrapper!!

[@_Hani_26]

What car does the larger sway bar come stock on?

[@frizzen]

The 19mm is from the WRX, and the 20mm is from the 2015 and newer STI. I put on the 20mm, and it's perfect.

[@mark8684]

What Outback application uses the 19mm rear sway bar? Did Subaru upgrade this for 2020? Or is it used on the XT Outback’s, or did you find this RSB from another application?

[@alexanderdavis5332]

My 04 Impreza wagon feels crazy in the butt!

[@terryswenderman7703]

Do 2023 Outback limited need an upgrade?

[@user-mn3dh6hb7u]

Could you please tell me what is the torque on the front stabilizer link on a 2016 Subaru Outback?

[@Thankz4sharing]

Does the stiffer rear sway bar increase understeer? I wish that I could test drive an upgraded one to see the difference.

[@Brasso26]

a stiffer RSB actually decreases understeer. these cars especially the more mainstream models come with safety as the utmost priority from the factory, hence why they lean towards understeering rather than oversteering.

[@growingup4487]

​​@@Brasso26a thicker rsb increases oversteer in the rear what are you talking about?

[@Brasso26]

@@growingup4487 you're right, I meant to say understeer in the first sentence. good catch

[@carlcolorado3549]

Let's see the new seat skin's. Is it easy?

[@darrylspiv5068]

Do i need strut tower bars and rear sway bar upgrade on my 23 FW? How about a video for 23 forester sway bar replace..

[@warrentinsley5490]

Wouldn't the upgraded sway bar need upgraded end links ??

[@ecopennylife]

If there is a chunkier genuine part available is Subaru admitting the original sway bar was a sub-par design ???

[@klwthe3rd]

Was this upgraded sway bar an option on the Outback or was it from another model?

[@TheRealDanBell]

I feel like this could help my 2018 Forester. Would everyone agree?

[@darrellborland119]

@TheRealDanBell...if a lot of miles, maybe? The cost is not high, so sounds like a relatively cheap upgrade. Our 2020 XT onyx seems fine. not slaloming anytime soon. LOL. We use it for long distance driving to "Original Transcon RR" sites. Good luck, and I remember those times I upgraded my VW.

[@TheRealDanBell]

@@darrellborland119 Thanks for the response. I am looking for a more solid ride. I think this could do that. My wife has a Discovery Sport and when you drive that it just feels more stiff/solid than my Forester. I know they aren't direct comparisons but I am looking to get my car to feel more like the Discovery.

[@raulgcamacho]

How do the rear bar mounting brackets hold up with the increased bar diameter? Looks like the bar brackets are not well supported/triangulated

[@turtle1723]

Do you know if the 2019 Outback has the larger sway bar?

[@happyhome41]

Wonder if there is a similar upgrade for the Forester ?

[@doriandavies5140]

There is, whiteline does one, I ordered one yesterday

[@yal100]

The sway bar he is using fits 09-18 Forester, 10-19 Legacy/Outback and 13-17 Crosstek. Its a good upgrade especially if you do some highway driving. Just feels more stable in certain conditions.

[@happyhome41]

@@doriandavies5140 What about the connecting links ? I looked on the Whiteline sight, and didn't see any.

[@jess8075]

Hello. I have a 2015 Subaru Outback 2.5i limited. I tried to purchase the stabilizer from the link you have, but it says that the number 20451FG021 does not fit my Subaru. Is it because is an upgrade to 19mm? Thank you

[@cbean0017]

Shot in the dark uf you'll answer but....2015 Outback. I need to replace liftgate arms. Tired if using the 2x4 I cut. But there is a 3rd arm that looks very difficult to remove/replace. I can't find any videos on ut. Most YT videos only hace 2 arms. Do I need a mechanic?

[@stevesanders8172]

Is it ok to use 10-30 oil in a legacy 2.5 in Florida heat?

[@MrSubaru1387]

Yup. Perfectly fine.

[@stevesanders8172]

@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you

[@alanbradford3130]

I was SHOCKED that you were able to remove your end links with an Allen key. I have tried this multiple times, and it ALWAYS stripped out for me. At this point I just automatically get out a vice grip or a cut off wheel to remove factory end links. I always replace mine with Moog end links that have flats for a wrench. I recently removed these Moog end links to replace a lower control arm on my Honda and it worked fine, and I was able to reuse the end links. Maybe Honda end links are just garbage?

[@burthurt8365]

Its a torx not an allen

[@alanbradford3130]

@@burthurt8365 - Its Allen on a Honda then. I didn't see what he used on the Subaru.

[@mph5896]

I am in the north. I take a very firm wire brush and clean up the threads with that. Then add penetrant. Break them loose and then hold them with the Allen or hex if they have them. They come off with some effort, but some require the torch or saw.

[@maybenot6075]

Modern cars are ment to be "bigger and better" yet my foresters sway bars are much thicker (20 something mm), yes the sg is shaped like a breeze block but even so iv noticed it on alot of modern cars

[@semoemo1]

*Lifted subarus have left the chat*

[@edwardcornell1263]

Nope.

[@TheMr.Logan9]

While you are switching out the sway bar, you could always replace one of the sway bar link bolts with a pin, some washers, and a hitch pin. Then you can have a quick disconnect for off-road and still corner on-road.

[@edwardcornell1263]

@@TheMr.Logan9 i rather not. It was a task installing the sway bar link on my 2006 outback. Also bar in under tension.

[@ralphfrasier2079]

According to your web link, the part list does NOT fit my 2019 3.6r Limited Outback sir. What would be the correct part numbers for my vehicle?

[@ShelbyRacer78]

It'll fit

[@southsidekarl]

Will you be selling this?

[@alexanderdavis5332]

They have discontinued my axles 😞

[@bellyacres7846]

after market has been my friend. IF you look around you can find the right & often better parts than OEM. [works for me,with research & experience] for me I found the Brake parts to be better than OEM, But I got TRQ lifetime warranty rotors,pads, calipers been running them for a few years [on various subies] with hardly any rust and the pads seem to last more miles than the stocks did. as for axles? I replaced my 1987 with those from checker. as OEM wasn't available. so i got lifetime warranty on those. they work fine. the stock axles did fine until after 200k miles lol the one was clicking & another was a bit loose. So replaced those. I had a 1990 OB & the axle CV joint ticked when turning. I found replacements [AM] but never installed those, just drove it. [it just ricked when turning tight circles] it has been sold a couple times & still had the stock axles on it. until it was totaled. :( *the new axles I sent with it, nut no one put them on as it was going fine for them too.

[@inerlogic]

Hrrmm... i drive at higher speeds everywhere, haven't noticed twitchiness.... in my '16's rear end.... i do carry some photo gear and whatnot in the back, maybe the extra 80-100lbs helps, lol

[@pb6839]

I had a manual legacy gt wagon the older generation, It was the best car I’ve ever had. The new Subarus are just not that appealing to me

[@ArshesNei8]

So I clicked just because of the thumbnail...what of it?

[@darrellborland119]

Looks interesting. However, don't think we need it on our OB Onyx edition. Handles nicely already. Thanks.

[@johnfarrell8832]

I don't feel the ass end of my 16 Outback doing anything strange...weird

[@xebapro]

Can you make power steering play adjustment?