Project 2025: The best ideas the fossil industry can buy

[@Krasbin]

So this November is not only relevant for the existence of a democratic Europe through support for Ukraine, but also for the existence of reasonable energy policies.

[@0101Zero]

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[@garrettosullivan8830]

I have always argued that renewables are the true way to energy self sufficiency. Any energy system needing to use a 'fuel' that is only available in some countries but not all is setting itself up to be a slave of the 'fuel' making countries. The climate change issue is secondary. I think this is fundamentally the mistake the renewables sector is making by pushing the climate emergency rather than energy self sufficiency as the prime mover for the needed transition.

[@Decarbonize11]

That makes sense in Ireland, but the US is a net exporter of natural gas, so if we ignore the climate then there's no urgency in getting off of fossil fuels for the US. Or what about a country that can be self-sufficient in coal, but doesn't have good wind or solar resources (maybe Poland). The truth is both are good reasons to move to renewables, but which argument is most persuasive will depend on the situation.

[@garrettosullivan8830]

Agreed that US is different to Ireland having a money making sector making fossil fuels means it will be much harder to get USA to switch to renewable energy powered economy.

[@scottotterson3978]

Ooof, Project 2025 is even worse than I thought!

[@Decarbonize11]

And the Energy section is the worst part.

[@DDDecarbon]

Carbon taxes you say 🤘🤘

[@Decarbonize11]

Doesn't everyone (who cars about the climate) like carbon taxes or other mechanisms to put a cost on carbon. I like the carbon dividends approach that's you have up north, since it's progressive. I should do a video on different approaches to putting a cost on carbon.

[@DDDecarbon]

@@Decarbonize11 some people dislike it because they don't like market systems. There's positives and negatives to our system in that you'd get more bang for your buck if you invested the money in green tech rather than recycle it into the economy.

[@andyds11]

@@DDDecarbon The market is a great tool, if you internalize the externalities. The advantage of the dividend is that it's easier to sell politically, and that's a big win.

[@DDDecarbon]

@@andyds11 agreed, that's the biggest benefit for sure!

[@clausbuhlsrensen602]

What happened with the New Green Deal?

[@Decarbonize11]

The inflation reduction act and the bipartisan infrastructure act included many elements of the green new deal. And Element is special interest for me is money to upgrade the electricity grid.