He Arrived In The Night... (Things Got Strange)

[@WestRoadSal]

When he yells "No, I didn't" . . . . there's some real pain there. I feel bad for the phantom in a weird way. It's like he remembers but doesn't want to remember. The love he once had is now a scar he just wants to forget.

[@itsayisha3263]

SOOO TRUEEEE

[@missdire]

This needs more likes, but the 863 heart makes up for it.

[@koallawangja]

Yeah, I’ve always had some sort of empathy for the phantom even before we realized he was taking the serum. Whenever I’m sitting thinking about theories and stuff it always leads back to what might have happened to the phantom to cause him wanting to take the serum, whether for Deb or pride, and what caused him to do what he’s doing now. There’s been multiple times where I’ve wanted to give up watching/making theories because I hated, and still do, making him seem like he’s the villain through and through because no matter how you cut it, no one, not even villains, are always bad and they always have reasons for why they do what they do and even though what they had to do was bad they are trying to either get rid of feelings or trying to seek approval from someone. And I think both reasons are the reasons in the phantoms case.

[@roberthassen8844]

Yeah I feel like it's more of a betrayal pain. As if Deb set Ben up as the killer and he is hurting because he loved her so much?

[@This-handle-isnt-available123]

Deep

[@prestidigitation3924]

It almost seemed like the Phantom was fighting himself. like Benjamin is locked away in there, but the serum is hiding his personality or something.

[@benfinley2884]

That and he might have a side lit personality

[@princequaye1667]

He said Benjamin I will kill her

[@milliehensler3283]

Maybe thats what splintered means

[@princequaye1667]

@@milliehensler3283 i feel kinda bad

[@princequaye1667]

Ge needs immediate help

[@bubbub.]

Imagine Matt walks up to him and the phantom just goes "I've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty".

[@msprincesss115]

lol

[@hey_its_scoolett_x4702]

BAGAHAGAGAG

[@mura_saki]

LMAOOOOOO

[@jasminecobreenia7719]

Mood

[@grindertacos]

Best Rick roll

[@beth24421]

Tanner and Quinn helping Woods to keep his cool while looking out for Matt is everything.

[@r.n.holmes5625]

Yeah I have no doubt Woods would definitely want to try and put the smackdown on guy.

[@graciefaith7827]

Fr like Tanner was like holding him down

[@lukejukes]

You could tell woods was ready to protect Matt at any cost

[@millenycotto-santos2632]

Woods didn't act like that just because he wanted to protect Matt it was also because he wanted to confront him because he had hit him in the head for no reason. At least they all know that there is someone there to protect them.

[@jaimesmith5625]

Did anyone else get chills when, he yelled at Matt the first time and we saw Woods wanting to go after him, but Tanner held him down. I love seeing how protective Woods is with his friends.

[@dakotalawson4877]

My fav thing bout this episode / video

[@mayhemm8796]

I actually lost it. Woods was about to throw hands.

[@Aromzique]

Time stamp?

[@dakotalawson4877]

@@Aromzique 24:44

[@ladyrainwing6981]

This Meet up has Star Wars Vibes

[@jdo5233]

Imagine Matt walks up to him and he’s like: “I‘ve been expecting you Matthias”

[@hman1151]

'Hello Matthias, do you think my mask is a DOPE or a NOPE

[@Parker-863]

@@hman1151 A dope

[@Lowered_2010]

@@hman1151 then Matt be like does it change colors

[@jcalonso8966]

lol

[@Daddynumber54]

Lol

[@jasminecobreenia7719]

For lack of better words Wood really showed his "guard dog mode" in this one. He was ready at anytime to run in head first to fight if B27 went after Matt but still held back waiting for the ok. That's real patience and restraint.

[@melaniezirixa1239]

Tanner also held him back. At one point you can see tanners hand on Woods' left shoulder.

[@Misfitfox225]

That's facts

[@TedGLangstaff]

Can we all appreciate how great it is to have tanner involved more. Such a great addition to the dynamic.

[@NikkiJenx25]

Yesssss loving it

[@dogsauce5653]

I love how Matt tells him to calm down cause he realizes he isn't stable

[@SeeKo978]

YES so true

[@annarox26945]

I love that other team members are involved this season! Especially Bailey, she adds such an innocence to the gravity of the situation ☺️

[@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat]

“I am the absolute.” “I am *absolutely* not going to call you that…” 😹

[@angeloaguila8792]

That was absolutely savage

[@sydneythompson1082]

Same energy as the Jim Halpert “I promis...ed other people

[@CrackWitch113]

I was expecting him to go "aNd YoU cAn CaLL mE oVeRkIlL* 😂😂😂

[@angeloaguila8792]

@@CrackWitch113 if mat in overkill benjamin in phantom it is like superhero meets supervillain first battle

[@kiantunstill6628]

RIP BOZO🤣🤣🤣

[@Anolition]

“He keeps running”- Matthias “Sees phantom by Wes’s grave and runs”

[@haydonrezzoffi]

yet the phantom also turns and walks away, its odd

[@jian1506]

How the turn tables

[@Mythix-yf6yw]

Did you notice how “The Absoulte” didn’t attack or threaten Matt? He was so innocent. Too innocent…

[@potatoes8999]

perhaps too innocent....

[@XILO...]

somethings worst to come for them

[@jsjazz12]

I don't think he's a threat. He started to say he didn't attack Woods.

[@potatoes8999]

@@jsjazz12 if he didn't. who did?

[@TimeFrost]

@@potatoes8999 Virgo... dun dun DUNNN jk idk

[@smolbean6831]

“You may call me The Absolute.” “Im absolutely not gonna call you that”

[@willborland7137]

“Just remember, you and I, we never had a choice…. it was rigged from the start” this one sentence explains everything after this.

[@briannatekampe8991]

When “Ben” was arguing with himself or what seemed to be a voice in his head, it could’ve either been his conscious or like the notes you found under the stairs with the apple II the syrum gave people multiple personalities. That’s why he’s so reserved in some of the texts but extremely mad and short tempered in others.

[@princequaye1667]

Maybe ptsd or the serum affecting

[@princequaye1667]

Oh yea with ammount of serum a injects to himself, his original self "Ben" fades away

[@00Abigail013]

It also could have been psd but do you remember the documents about being able to enter someone’s conscious to manipulate people without them knowing. Mabel he made a deal with syphus not to kill deb the woman he loves in-turn for him doing his bidding Manet syphus was saying to him if he said too much he would find deb and kill her

[@giannagoddard3009]

Ya, I see a lot of people saying this. It’s kind of sad honestly :(

[@radicalmary3121]

Do you mean like Tobias Hankel from Criminal minds?

[@arlenetransue5554]

When Benjamin said that he and Matt were the same, I think I believe him because he was talking to himself in two different voices as if Benjamin was arguing with the phantom. I think he is being mind controlled by the person responsible for all of this.

[@OctoberRiot]

i picked up on something like that too. ben and the phantom maybe the same, but different sides of the same coin, like a split personality

[@rileyharris5673]

@@OctoberRiot that would explain a lot

[@benfinley2884]

Yeah, I now believe that Ben has been trying not to be violent but due to the stuff that happened, he must’ve finally snapped and the phantom we know today was born. And so when he said Virgo, it’s either referring to someone he used to work with or a project we have yet to see or hear about. The guys need to contact Deb for more information about Virgo and Ben. Before stuff becomes more dangerous or even gets the guys so out of information that they could never have the stuff they need to end it all or Deb is probably playing or planning stuff so the team could always be at more risk than they need to be

[@kyle26091]

I think less mind control and more of the serum making his mind unstable, like how Matt said his head gets fuzzy, that could be a red flag that Matt needs the cure quickly

[@arlenetransue5554]

@@benfinley2884 They should look at the tape first because I think this has something to do with Deb.

[@oneofakindasmr339]

God, that was amazing . . . . "It was rigged from the start." Matt, Sam and Woods think they are special. But at the end of the day, I wonder if they are just another three lab subjects in a very, complex and twisting kind of experiment held together by Deb and Syphus.

[@chasekolssak6010]

B27: What exactly do her little worker bees want with me now? Be quick a out it. Matt: We've been trying to contact you about your car's extended warranty.

[@annetylonen]

It’s so nice to rewatch episodes like this, after already seeing the latest ones! So much story makes so much more sense now! And all the meanings behind the phrases change! Good job Spellbound!

[@felicityhall9618]

Glad I'm not the only one

[@WolfPlayz015]

can we all just agree that Benjamin's line "Don't worry. You'll see me again, eventually." was absolutely amazing *no pun intended*

[@CodeInkDH]

Well what if it wasn’t Benjamin that was talking?

[@hxllxhxund]

I don't see where there was a pun in there

[@ashley_miraculous_gacha2085]

@@hxllxhxund same i don't get it😅

[@Nozzah]

@@ashley_miraculous_gacha2085 B27 calls himself the Absolute

[@sky2213]

I get it now!!🤣 you saying absolutely amazing when He calls him self the absolute 😅🇦🇺😎 hopefully this helps others

[@kara7810]

Key things the phantom said : "VIRGO" , "16-22-0-1" , "She (Deb) let me waste away", "Benjamin is dead", "You may call me the Absolute", "You and I...we're the same... you're just better at hiding your mask", "To clear my name", "Benjamin, I will kill her" EVERYONE REMEMBER THESE THINGS!!!!

[@CheeryRedJade]

Also “it was rigged from the start” seems pretty striking.

[@jian1506]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@kossur10]

16=4:00 pm 22 16:22=4:22 pm 01 16:22:01 4:22pm and 1 second this is probably that exact time who ever was shot in the car

[@Dargonhuman]

What if Virgo is a login and 16-22-01 is a password for the Syntec website?

[@kara7810]

@@CheeryRedJade it kinda makes me doubt deb. i feel like deb was playing both sides from the beginning

[@colinbellows3666]

When Matt said "Well I’m absolutely not gonna call you that”😂

[@s_ky03]

ikr it was a serious situation but that hella cracked me up🤣

[@yamatowo]

"benjamin, I will kill her" sounds like someone else, either it could be a split personality or straight up someone that's controlling benjamin and basically just using his body as a speaker of some sort. the real benjamin screamed virgo and the numbers.

[@_DaughterOfTheKing_]

I think so too

[@willborland7137]

Oh how right you guys were.

[@liv_1340]

Every time I rewatch, which is frequently, i pick up new bits and pieces and that how you know this was so well planned and executed. I love this show/series so much and I’m glad to hav even a part of it from the beginning. I can’t believe it already been a year, anyways much love to the whole production team and all of the people who worked on this, it still brings many people joy! ❤

[@mysticcs1mulation375]

Can we just appreciate the amount of work the team and editors,producers etc are doing!

[@aarond3355]

We sure can

[@kayleighalgar4043]

Absolutely!!

[@eddiebear3123]

Of course! The amount of hard work they put in to this is amazing. I love this series

[@the_intolerables]

Seriously tho so true! The team is great

[@stangu77]

Yes

[@livingluminite-canbeminedb7294]

I got so excited when I woke up this morning and realized it was Saturday! Project: 863 uploads, and I get a small break from school.

[@thespacenerd669]

Sunday in Australia

[@shanemartin1933]

Same

[@jacobbailey2950]

@@thespacenerd669 same in New Zealand

[@unrelatable3482]

Yo init

[@im_bad_at_game]

same

[@thomaspanicola7548]

I just loved how woods was like a bulldog in the bushes ready to go protect Matt

[@dragamora3982]

Honestly though, i fully agree to that.

[@froggy7274]

lol I agree, you could really tell how much he cares about him, same with tanner.

[@4.carr.s]

I agree they are all like Matts bodyguards to protect him and he cares for them thats why he risked himself to be in that position

[@froggy7274]

@@4.carr.s agreed

[@froggy7274]

@JA exactly my thought process

[@jadewolfgame6782]

Matt "Have we ever seen him have a gun?" Sam: "Ugh no" Tanner: "What are we framing him for by the way?" Me: "Murder, using a gun"

[@KiraTheJobless]

Timestamp?

[@Sparkyfb22]

4:05

[@robertthompson6352]

@@Sparkyfb22 thank you!!

[@halleryanne150]

Prediction: it’s all deb, deb killed wess, deb has been pulling the strings all along. She set up Syfus as the villain to distract everyone form her own evil. She continues to present herself as a good guy. She’s also hiding behind a mask. A mask she’s wrapped around Matthias sam and woods.

[@elizabethkass49]

She's evil and I knew it

[@steveneldridge9330]

I figured as much every one is just her puppets getting information

[@wibif420]

Syphus

[@ii_bus]

Imagine he has got a bus full of backup phantoms

[@b.sizzle]

i thought this said “ imagine if he got hit by a bus “ at first 😭

[@quirkity]

I’m imagining it as a clown car of phantoms lol

[@ii_bus]

@@b.sizzle no

[@R.e.2405]

It doesn't really surprise me that he does this at night time. Light sources might complicate things for his eyes, Nelson might not be watching (still think those masks are rigged, just as safety measure), less widnesses...

[@brendanb870]

For me it's 5 lol

[@R.e.2405]

You know it gets out of hand when a song changes into: " it's the spellbound countdown...."

[@polyissac2077]

Mat. You should’ve called him and said “Sir, we’ve been trying to call you about your Rv’s extended warranty…”

[@riliapratch]

To those theorizing that Ben has Dissociative Identity Disorder (multiple personality disorder is the outdated name), Matt has said that mental conditions such as DID and schizophrenia aren't part of this. It can be really toxic and damaging to assume that people with DID have "villain" or "monster" identities. Please take time to educate yourselves so you don't hurt others.

[@froggy7274]

THANK YOU- omg I've been waiting for someone else to say this, I felt like I was the only person wh was truly educated on this kind of thing.

[@SurrenicTech]

Most of them refer to the notes on the apple 2 that said to create split personalities by the serum.

[@Hyper_Fixation]

@@SurrenicTech Yeah, but DID can only occur because of repeated trauma in childhood. Ben didn't take the serum until he was an adult so that can't be it.

[@oneweirddaydreamer6181]

@@ariaperimeter actually the whole reason why DID occurs is because the trauma prevents a person from developing one identity. So it has to happen at a young age because later on they have a fully integrated (that might not be the right word) identity.

[@Hyper_Fixation]

@@ariaperimeter DID is formed when the brain is still developing new pathways, meaning childhood.

[@heatherpellegrini1768]

Not gonna lie, this episode was so tense I thought for sure when Matt came face to face with the phantom, I thought for a split second they were gonna come to a big fight 😬 but thank goodness they didn’t. Cause that would of been quite ugly to say the least!

[@kossur10]

Maybe in the finale of the series

[@heatherpellegrini1768]

@@kossur10 nooo!! We don’t need anyone to be getting hurt! Especially Sam, woods and Matt and the rest of the team!

[@A28-x8s]

Theory: Deb killed Wes! Benjamin wants to clear his name and that is why he wants to hurt Deb. He wants to kill Deb for what she did to him.

[@mel.santia]

I agree. I think Benjamin wants to be helped...and wants to help them in return, but the serum has corrupted his mind. He wants to give them answers. He even said he didn't hit Woods... he's having an internal battle with himself...or someone that's controlling him.

[@jechodidntgrowup]

THIS IS MY THEORY EVER SINCE DEB WANTED US TO FIND THE SERUM AND THIS EPISODE EVEN SOLIDIFIES IT

[@mel.santia]

@@jechodidntgrowup YES she never specified what she wanted to do with the serum! For all we know, Deb could be planning on having all of the serum taken from the team in order to make the serum bomb...

[@A28-x8s]

@Mel Santiago @Jecho Espin When Benjamin said "it was rigged from the start" it could be a game that Deb and Syphus are playing where we are all pawns in their game of life and death. Maybe Deb is secretly evil all along. That is what Benjamin has been trying to prove. I think someone else maybe Deb is the killer and that is why everyone was so shocked when seeing the full tape. But then again the tape that we have seen was in a trap that was supposedly made for Deb right? Maybe it wasn't a trap for Deb but a trap made for the first 863 team. Maybe it was to allow the first team to realize they were tricked by Deb. This is just a my thoughts. The Tape that we first seen was put in the trap to make us think Deb was innocent and Benjamin killed Wes. But why was a murder tape put into a trap for Deb that was titled 8/6/3 the name of her project unless her project was to kill Wes and Syphus. It seemed she was high up in the organization. She could possibly take Wes's spot and then kill Syphus as well. It is my theory.

[@Whats_The_Point23]

I’ve never trusted Deb. I couldn’t understand how they were so quick to believe her, when the cleaned up tape shows otherwise. On the tape, she and Wes are arguing about Syphus. Wes tells her that she could stop the experiments and stop those people’s pain, but she chooses not to. I’m sorry, but she has been shady as heck the whole time. Also what proof do we have that Syphus is such a bad guy: Deb’s words and the chat logs which we know can be tampered with. We haven’t even had any interaction with Nelson Syphus at all. We were even told that he was unaware of our existence. Deb also lied to the team about Wes. She said they lost contact, she never told them that she suspected he was dead. Her project is titled 863, the date of his death, yet she had no clue? Yeah, I’m not buying it.

[@zboltunknown]

Ben seems to have a split personality. One side that wants help and almost seems desperate and the other side is the evil one, telling him what to do. He yelled "VIRGO" and said "I will kill her" then Ben said no, no, no like he was trying to resist. I think Ben can be saved.

[@haileetaylor8871]

I agree with you there that he has a split personality because of what he had.

[@OctoberRiot]

exact same thing crossed my mind

[@koallawangja]

I think it’s something similar but not that. I agree that it seemed like there were two people standing there in one however.

[@shadophaxx2401]

Omg If this story is inspired by Jekyll and Hyde ima be so excited

[@matthewmundy8678]

yeah ben is giving me Gollum vibes

[@frankprice811]

"you and I, we're the same, you're just better at hiding your mask" "I'm nothing like you" "time will tell" IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!!

[@rikoriko9919]

what makes sense? sorry i just was rewatching this again and ive kind of forgotten the story.

[@jennab2541]

This was incredible, I was literally shaking. Matt and the team are absolute geniuses, thank you for this next level content🙏🏽

[@nadiaaberle5299]

@Just Some Guy Who Lost His Mustache NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@gamingmoyai3950]

@Just Some Guy Who Lost His Mustache I stole it.

[@graham6116]

This is the most hyped I have ever been for a KZbin video

[@studywithharu1301]

I agree!

[@crazycow9690]

Dro same

[@cellanlewis1569]

Same

[@valentinapetrova9675]

Is project 863 real?

[@graham6116]

@@valentinapetrova9675 no… At the beginning of the video it tells you it is for entertainment only.

[@conspirasister5945]

It seemed at one point like Ben was arguing with himself. Remember that one of the side effects of the serum is multiple personality disorder.

[@briannab6270]

True, and what was with the 16-22-0-1( was that correct?) a clue obviously but it’s very interesting he let that out

[@Dargonhuman]

@@briannab6270 It sounds like a lock combination or a password of some sort? Are there any other combination padlocks they haven't opened? It could be a reference to a specific time, too - 16 hours, 22 minutes and 1 second? Maybe that's how long until something happens or needs to happen or a reference to a specific time when something already happened? 1622 would be 4:22pm in military time, dunno if that corresponds to any outstanding mysteries in the timeline... Or he needs to take another injection in 16 hours and 22 minutes? Or ... chillingly ... he set another serum bomb somewhere and it will go off 16 hours, 22 minutes and 1 second after he said that?

[@crimsonviperess]

@@briannab6270 just a theory here, it could be the code to something however it can also be something to focus on to try and stay in control/grounded as Ben. Focusing on it to try to stabilize himself. It would have to be something significant to Ben though to keep him grounded.

[@princequaye1667]

Everyday he trying to fight the serum, he if takes more serum, ben will be gone forever

[@niawatters581]

@@briannab6270 but is Virgo the “absolute” that Ben is fighting against? Or am I thinking of something totally different?

[@kyrahelm1203]

Bailey is so innocent and sweet she just adds that subtle/right amount compassion and kindness (She was a great addition to the series)

[@popdago3548]

9:57 Woods looks like a kid that got a present he didn't want on Christmas but the person who bought it is there

[@jordino0]

This has to be my favorite episode by far. This was just so cool. The phantoms voice sounded so dope, props to that.

[@alittlebitofeverythingkids1995]

I have been waiting for this video for DAYS! I hope Matt doesn't get injured from the Phantom maybe knowing something about the serum acting up and then the Phantom using that against him!

[@maddiejohnson8515]

That or Matt accidentally telling the phantom that he got serum bombed. Because some things are best if not mentioned

[@alittlebitofeverythingkids1995]

@@maddiejohnson8515 Yes I agree I didn't think that maybe the Phantom doesn't know that... But he still might know...

[@maddiejohnson8515]

What are some of your theory’s about the story? Or what do you think will happen in the video?

[@alittlebitofeverythingkids1995]

@@maddiejohnson8515 Plus the Title says "Things got strange" so that could mean something...

[@alittlebitofeverythingkids1995]

@@maddiejohnson8515 The Phantom knows! He knows that Matt has the serum in him!!

[@mx.sinistxr]

okay, the phantom getting angry and the whole “you and i, we’re the same.” line gave me mad chills

[@kossur10]

My hand started shaking after a while

[@00Abigail013]

23:01 woods has the look of death in his eyes

[@TheUnseenWaffle]

Omg such a rollercoaster of emotion. Its like he's filled with hope and betrayal along with PTSD.

[@Sleepdeprived_Stay14]

I was so scared that the murder tape was going to happen again but now I just feel bad that the phantom said it was rigged and he didn’t have a choice worst part is is that I could tell that he’s been through a lot thx to this there will be an understanding of the other side of the story

[@Moxipoxie]

I’d love for Mike to become more integrated in the story world (if he has the time) bc it’s such a grounding force

[@null1031]

What if Deb is the mastermind behind the entire thing, "It was rigged from the start". Both Benjamin and Matthias have or are still working with her.

[@halleryanne150]

We On the same wave link

[@eguwhy]

na that be a fallout new Vegas quote

[@zyx_inc3649]

I think that Ben and Matt are the same people because Ben kept saying him and Matt are the same so I think there the same person

[@kyleec7522]

The first thing I saie to myself when Matt walked into the room with everyone else in it, is 'where is Woods' Al's, its kind of funny how you have called him over but still did not open the filing cabinet that you got from the storage building...

[@keyleighchester3596]

I was wondering when they r going to open it its been two videos since they find the cabinet

[@SeeKo978]

I’m sorry I had to Matt:he’s here Woods: he’s just standing there menacingly

[@madiesfirstadventure5536]

I'm so freaking excited to see where this channel goes I love things like this and as a big theatre nerd and an actress I personally would love to do a project like that.

[@mattieo5717]

I love how ready Woods was to jump in when Ben pointed at Matt.

[@NathanielGross1994]

Woods doing his best Patrick Star impression XD. (The whole “He’s just standing there menacingly”)

[@AviDoro]

I totally yelled "menacingly!" when he said that lol

[@abhinavas1591]

Matt:I want u guys to support me while I confront him Tanner,Sam and Bailey:Let's go champ!!(During the conversation)

[@sage8815]

I’ve been watching the whole thing over again and watching the new vids and him talking to Ben, there was so much foreshadowing lol

[@dnttv3565]

Even if he's not a main character, I'm really happy to see Tanner back in some of the vids

[@marymrad6113]

Yeaa me too

[@HeyyitzAlyssa]

Same!

[@haydonrezzoffi]

seems like he is becoming one of the people, like Bailey, they want to expand the cast

[@im_bad_at_game]

same

[@rebeccac.600]

Actually watching the video, Virgo suddenly sounds like a name-a second personality within Ben. Maybe Virgo is who we know as the phantom, and this is the first time Ben has actually spoken to us-perhaps the first time he has been able to-before Virgo regained control. It would make sense given how the phantom appeared to go through some sort of psychotic breakdown before regaining control. Maybe it was something the serum did/caused because he’s been taking it for years? Edit: I was looking through some of the comments on the We are 863 video and one of them reminded me of something. I asked it over there but I’ll ask it here as well: Does anyone think this has anything to do with the documents in the mountaineer? The team originally found documents talking all about mind control-maybe it was a process used on Ben, or maybe it was one of the two (Ben or Virgo) trying to figure out how to get rid of the other. What do you guys think?

[@Dargonhuman]

Another comment here was a reminder that one documented side effect of the serum is multiple personalities, so both things could be at play here - the serum split off the Virgo personality from Ben, and then Syphus was able take control of Virgo's mind to do his bidding. Benjamin may have known that Syphus was working on mind control and heard a rumor that Syphus was planning on using that on employees. Benjamin could have injected himself with the serum hoping to develop a split personality, thinking that might grant him some sort of immunity or protection against the mind control.

[@rebeccac.600]

@@Dargonhuman You’re completely right-I didn’t even think about that! That does seem like something Syphus would do. Oo, idea-maybe Syphus was the one who upped Ben’s dose of the serum, not Wes. Wes doesn’t seem like the type of person to do something like that regardless-heck he was even telling Ben to not do the experiment-but maybe Syphus upped the dose secretly to get a more violent personality in Ben and then took control of Virgo to make the first phantom. Maybe that was why Ben was acting more violent after the experiment-it was a combination of Virgo taking control and Syphus helping that process along. What do you think?

[@Dargonhuman]

@@rebeccac.600 Makes a lot of sense and fits what we know about Syphus and Syntec right now.

[@ariz2631]

Lets have a nerf battle between the phantom and matt ... lol

[@emmabajro863]

Lol we need a nerf battle!!!!! Xd

[@alittlebitofeverythingkids1995]

Yesssss lol

[@tanmaytiwari2003]

IT'S TIME FOR A NERF BATTTTTTLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ariz2631]

Thanks for all the likes guys...

[@railfanmaximstill7279]

16:52 when said "I have what you need" He's referring to the CD From August 6th.

[@gangytron69]

I remember watching when you found the key in the ceiling like 3 years ago! I’m so proud of you man🥺

[@L-GINanimations]

This was one of the most INTENSE episodes, I loved how there is just more and more to the story, like I wanna know who is Vergo. Thx for these amazing contents team!!!

[@vorton5519]

Really loving how this is going back to the roots! GG to subjects 1,2, & 3. GG!

[@Dynamic-FalconEditz]

Kind of hoping Matt pulls a guardians of the Galaxy and does a dance to distract them well woods and Sam come up behind them and take him out

[@dontsubscribe9819]

Sam has Bright purple hair.. might be a bit hard to sneak up on him

[@Dynamic-FalconEditz]

@@dontsubscribe9819 easy black hat

[@addison9220]

This is the best thing i have ever heard lol

[@jian1506]

*sneak 100*

[@CharmXO]

Theory: what if when Deb experimented on Benjamin and he was screaming in the background of that tape recorder you found a while back. and when he said "their purpose" I think this is meaning that he once was a leader of a project ( like matt in project 863) lead by deb but it was called a completely different name other than "863". he was most likely a test subject and turned against her once the serum went bad and made him start to act out of control and now he says he wants to "kill her" like he said in the video because of how his new lifestyle is/

[@elizabethkass49]

Same thought

[@ayamasakya4196]

In the episode where they found the desk in the storage unit. The hidden files it was documented by a chat log that Benjamin experimented on himself. He knew the risk of the serum.

[@regaliaofficiall]

and also the phantom said he and matt are at the same page, could it be the same result or table is turn over?

[@Sammy.538]

“It was rigged from the start” is a confusing quote

[@Au_tumn-Gh0st9]

"I've been expecting you" Matt: ... Phantom: ... Matt: uses conversation Phantom: it wasn't very effective Sam: uses conversation it wasn't effective Woods: uses net it was somewhat effective Phantom: attacks and fails lowers one HP. Matt: uses conversation and talks about Wes Phantom: collapse to the floor it was very effective. Idk I thought about this moment and I zoned out and was thinking about other stuff.

[@plushislandnetwork7455]

Talks about Wes: “Nah it wasn’t me” Talks about Syphus: “NO!” Talks about Deb: “AAAAAAH NO NO NO OH NO BENJAMIN, I WILL KILL HER-“

[@Au_tumn-Gh0st9]

@@plushislandnetwork7455 exactly

[@DHMISDuckGuy]

Matt walks up: Hello Benjamin Ben: dude it’s the middle of the night, I was just about to catch my beauty sleep.

[@Skeltonz]

I hope the phantom is meeting with them to ask questions and get answers that both of them need

[@craftthecrafter6472]

I think this is the first video were I really needed to pause and just take away around my room. This was so tense and so well done. Keep up the good work. Your doing great

[@captinboo9651]

I wasn't planning on getting on KZbin anytime soon. But I saw a tiktok of you!! Only just started watching I'm so excited

[@Tailrenvods]

You and I never had a choice, it was rigged from the start was so deep and partly terrifying

[@Naturalbounties]

I LOVE seeing Bailey in the videos more!! Our team is growing y’all 💝

[@acursedhope]

AWESOME VIDEO! You guys have this DOWN! Perfect pacing and implementation of the hype encounter with the light hearted vlog style beginning. KILLED IT!

[@zucc51]

28:34 That quote just took me back to fallout New Vegas vibes

[@zoedone5151]

omg watching this back is just making everything look so clear like when ben says only time will tell and the time passes and all the things that happened like wow

[@Parker-863]

Who else loves the Saturday uploads!

[@Parker-863]

@@Jessabellk81 same

[@alittlebitofeverythingkids1995]

@@Jessabellk81 same here

[@studywithharu1301]

Me!

[@mysticcs1mulation375]

THIS IS AWESOME GOOD JOB MATT AND THE TEAM

[@Ladoobalie]

Bruh

[@cannedsocks7474]

You time traveler or something?

[@ultimategamer6224]

My theory is that John Doe pulls up

[@TheRockefellas]

When he says "NO I DIDN'T" you can hear the pain in his voice.

[@AlmondBard]

The best line in the whole ep is when mat says" If u be quiet because i am actually trying to be hard here" lol

[@iaracaneira2239]

I love this series. I just want to thank all of you for making this. It just feels so real. Its amazing. Great job and keep this going because i love it.

[@angelaherman272]

Why does what Ben said give me the feeling that DEB is the mastermind behind *everything*?

[@potatoes8999]

yea, same. Deb is looking very suspicious now

[@Dargonhuman]

I never trusted her from the start. She was always being evasive, lying about her identity, drip feeding them information then making them literally beg for more... All signs of a highly manipulative person. Whoever the Phantom is has been a condescending d-bag for sure but other than that he's almost always been honest and straightforward with the team, which to me makes him a bit more trustworthy. The Phantom (or The Absolute or O'Malley or Omega or whatever he's calling himself now) has always made his intentions known from the start - he wants the serum and will do whatever it takes to get it - and his actions have always been working toward that goal. He was even willing to exchange his information with the team for access to the serum towards the beginning before the team threw in with D3B.

[@jsjazz12]

I've felt that from the beginning.

[@angelaherman272]

@@Dargonhuman Yeah, at one point earlier on, I considered the fact that perhaps the Phantom- Benjamin, the Absolute- is truly the "good" side and that Deb may be the "bad" side. I say those in quotes because there's no real good or bad side here, they've both done some rather questionable things. This episode has brought these thoughts back to light, that Benjamin may also be a victim and that Deb is more than she's been saying.

[@the_intolerables]

Cant wait for Matt to walk up and just have a big lightsaber battle

[@marymrad6113]

RIGHTTTT

[@abbystilley7091]

The dad joke "I am ABSOLUTEly not calling you that." 🤦🏼‍♀️Matt buddy, come on😂

[@Elfdaughter]

“Rigged from the start?” I think my theory might be right. I think it’s been Deb pulling the strings the whole time.

[@ryanwhatford2901]

I'm thinking Matt is going to turn out like Ben. As Benjamin stated "You and I never had a choice." Matt needs the antidote now.

[@MafiaArts]

When the phantom said "It was rigged from start" you can see he never wanted any of this stuff on his hand...

[@WhatsMyFandom]

Love Bailey's sweater/shirt

[@alexisanderson258]

So based off what he said when he walked away “that it was rigged from the start” maybe what he is meaning is that everything they’ve have been told by deb hasn’t been fully true. Maybe deb isn’t as innocent as we she is.Maybe she did kill Wes and is trying to put the blame on Ben and that’s why he said those other things.??????

[@HowItsGoingRN]

HOW DID HE KNOW?!?!?

[@squidgak2903]

when matt says " i am absolutely not going to call you that" he has a rick grimes kinda style i like it haha! great episode getting to know the villain is amazing rock on!

[@WolfPlayz015]

the way Benjamin talked about himself in the third person saying "Benjamin, I will kill her" sounded a lot like something Venom would say

[@syedrayanazeem4962]

Ben: You can call me absolute Matt: I am absolutely not gonna call you absolute I bust out laughing when I heard that 😂😂

[@marymrad6113]

Mee tooo i was like 👉😉

[@elizabethh.1116]

Same I was l Iike oo

[@Dargonhuman]

Yea that was hilariously savage.

[@skylarrr.g]

i’m telling you my jaw DROPPED when he actually showed up that was intense bro- i loved this episode. by far my favorite of season 2

[@RapidBlaster]

Its season 3

[@mightymiggle]

Watching This a Year After it's Release...still entertaining.

[@certifiedtrashh]

i really love seeing more people in these videos, having bailey and tanner there makes it so much more interesting to see how everyone's reactions are to the situations

[@7대취타7]

Bailey always has the best outfits. Her fashion needs to be praised more- Also the odds of Deb being the one who killed Wes- 👀

[@penelopesmallwood5631]

Yes, Bailey is usually my fit inspo 💅🏻

[@s_ky03]

I mean deb was always the main villain for me so it'd be cool if that is true. If Nelson controlled Ben, its possible ben was referring that they are the same cuz Deb controls Matt so🤷‍♀️

[@7대취타7]

@@s_ky03 damn you really really thought about it. That honestly didn't cross my mind but that's actually smart- bravo my friend 👏👏