Best Battery Powered Chainsaw Brand (ROUND 2)? Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo, Oregon, DeWalt

ROUND 2 lineup: Stihl vs EGO, ECHO, Husqvarna, Oregon, WEN and DeWalt. In round 1, the 60V DeWalt outperformed the other brands, winning the showdown. Saws tested in 3 events: 2 cutting speed tests on 4x4 lumber and 1 test on hardwood. Battery charge time and run time under continuous load, noise level, and no load sprocket speed tested. I purchased all of the chainsaws tested. Thanks for supporting the channel!
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[@ProjectFarm]

Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! ECHO: amzn.to/37d9KRh EGO: amzn.to/3gNXDxh Oregon: amzn.to/3n91B61 WEN: amzn.to/3oEkONk Husqvarna: amzn.to/2JWMqyk DeWalt: DeWalt: amzn.to/3AhA0oM

[@greenbridge1460]

Purchased the Echo 8 months ago. I've run chainsaws professionally for many years. Wear and tear on my arm and shoulder when starting had me checking out cordless saws. We've always used commercial grade Sthils and Husqvarna's so I was a bit concerned about the Echo's performance. That said I'm very impressed, runs like a demon, really as good as your tests suggest. No issues after lots of brush clearing and multiple cords of firewood.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@r.lavernemiller5665]

Have u tested cordless string trimmers ?

[@gwenhaskie-dinepride898]

I can say this.. as far as Echo, which I have not used. There is always a Home Depot somewhere and Echo's can pay for themselves in one project. You can always resell and buy the latest for next project.

[@m1a1abrams93]

Echo has always made decent tools. IMO

[@coreyogles2664]

What do you think about the safety position? Does it get uncomfortable?

[@blocksterz]

How I buy tools : 1-Watch Project Farm 2-buy the recommended item 3-repeat

[@benkleve4199]

Your not wrong

[@herbiehusker1889]

@@benkleve4199 but you are! The correct word is "you're"

[@bdkj3e]

I did that yesterday with my windshield wiper blades, the long term test was awesome, I didn't end up going with the winners though cuz the Bosch Icons would have been nearly $50 for both so I went with the rainx ones that were the runner up, $20 difference in price for 2 blades.

[@FromThe3PointLine]

Yeah idk if I want to have like 4 or 5 different battery setups. Looks like Dewalt has the most wins under their belt so buy Dewalt cordless tools

[@kukri1877]

@@bdkj3e I had to lookup what I got, and it ended up being the Bosch; didn't even realize they were hat expensive, but I bad some coupons and points that offset my cost.

[@Baopand]

For a company like Stihl who you naturally associate with Chainsaws. I was surprised to see it so outclassed here. Especially for the price! And that is why I watch your videos! Thanks!

[@plainlake]

The only 1 up they might have had is reliability, but a 5 year consumer warranty match that too.

[@SaneAsylum]

@@JC-uq5gi Should have bought a better Husqvarna then. There is no disputing that Husqvarna has better air filtration than Stihl and better chip clearance on large saws. I like both depending on the saw, but to say that one brand is good and the other is trash is ignorant. Stihlership $$$ policies suck royally as do both of their low level consumer saws.

[@tubastuff]

What's interesting is that Andreas Stihl started with electric chainsaws, albeit not battery-powered ones.

[@RubsNL]

@Random Stuffs that's definitely not true for the petrol powered stihl saws. Assuming you look after it a little, it always starts in a few pulls even when cold.

[@SaneAsylum]

@@JC-uq5gi I can't tell you how many times we've met in life. Every time just as ridiculous as the last...

[@CycleCruza]

I just recently got the 18" EGO that came with a 5 Amp battery, it cuts through trees like butter and is quiet. I took down 6 trees in minutes while creating trails through the forest on my property. I love the EGO lineup because I can swap batteries with the other EGO power tools.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@BeefNEggs057]

Doesn’t the 18” have metal bucking spikes?

[@SL1CEND1CEN]

Once you have a few ego tools, you need a few more. Swapping batteries between yard equipment feels like a game changer. Plus you can choose more powerful batteries

[@BeefNEggs057]

@@SL1CEND1CEN Moooorrrre Pooooowwwweeeerrrrr!

[@newtron77]

@@SL1CEND1CEN I recently bought the EGO snow blower and it came with two 7.5 amp batteries. Now I feel the need to get more tools to make more use of these batteries once the snow is gone. I am watching this video I don't even have any trees in my yard lol.

[@derekdriver251]

This has to be the best channel on KZbin. I can't stop watching

[@quallzone6219]

"Which is the best tool review channel?. . . Gonna test that!"

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching!

[@gabormadaras]

@@ProjectFarm would be great to test SDS Plus and SDS Max hammer drills and demolition hammers - some cheap brands have unbelievable Joule numbers compared to big names...

[@Texasbluesalley]

Your pacing and editing for these videos is impeccable.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@selcukyaldiz5965]

@@ProjectFarm

[@alanhonlunli]

No bullshit, no pretense, he cuts straight to what we wanna hear. See what I did there?

[@LiverpoolReject]

It's insane his consistency!

[@henryhightower5647]

l nub

[@KurtHectic]

Project Farm: We're gonna test that. Me: YES.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching.

[@georgedavall9449]

Yeah, love it when he says that! 😁

[@houstonspeeds1610]

lts see budget LED headlights vs expensive, keep the cids coming!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@evanmarykuca9980]

Yes Led Headlamps for sure.

[@mattholmes8214]

I use Beamtech from Amazon. I've had 3 sets now and none have had any problems. On the other hand, I paid a lot more for a set of XKGlow LEDs and they never seemed happy in the cold and the fans were very loud.

[@xzx_sparky_xzx]

@@mattholmes8214 i have used BeamTech in all of my vehicles for the last 2 years now. They are fantastic for the price and are super bright. No issues at all.

[@daftnord4957]

I'd recommend adding Streamlight double clutch to the test

[@s.m.7018]

These are my “go to” reviews for tools and equipment. I even watch the ones for things I’ll never need.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@JTA1961]

Yup just to watch an unbiased review on anything👍 is worth the time spent. 🍳😎♨

[@mimosamodern]

I enjoyed watching your video. I own 5 acres and decided to go with the WEN to cut down several (15 or so) medium size trees and cut them up into firewood. The WEN responded to every challenge I gave it. It's not commercial grade like some of the others but for $238 for the saw and two batteries, I'm quite pleased. It's a great deal for someone like me who needs to clean up property but doesn't need a full-time saw.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@Matthew-uc7he]

Id like to have seen the Oregon's auto chain sharpening in action.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point. I should have tested it!

[@dfabeagle718]

@@ProjectFarm Same crappy design from the 70's, like Homelite (Sears). I can't tell you how many I had to convert to regular chain for unhappy owners.

[@uriahotten3895]

Power sharp sucks. Owned it, used it, threw it away.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

I had one and it did not work well, but they may have improved it.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@davehimlin2374 same problems that I had.

[@joerobinson3240]

Todd’s out here doing God’s work for everyone. The time and effort you put into these videos isn’t unappreciated. Happy holidays!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!!!

[@kyles280]

Agreed.

[@boomsuga]

🙄

[@davidjb9199]

Very well done comparison. As a seasoned engineer, if I were to do a comprehensive comparison, this is exactly how I would do it. Your data speaks for itself, and the attentive viewer will draw the same conclusion before you announce it. Excellent job! When my Oregon wears out I can now see I will replace it with an Echo.

[@GunsNBudder]

Be careful, Echo is now ditching their 58v customers and changing everything to a 56v system with no compatibility.

[@joeking433]

PJ's the best! The new Consumers Reports done better!

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

Just got done watching both videos on battery powered chainsaws. Thanks for helping information and all rigorous test you put them through. They really helps give an honest opinion on which tool can do what.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@valiktoma2542]

All that cutting. "Comes with 5 years warranty, tomorrow we gona test that".

[@lawpickinglocksmith7689]

Next updated manual will have a warranty clause: Do NOT reverse engineer that includes youtube smartasses !

[@Nyall]

I can personally speak to echo's 5 year warranty. (Parent company is TTI) At the beginning of November I warrantied a broken battery that was 2 weeks away from the 5 year warranty expiration. (home depot emails you receipts makes it very easy to keep track of receipts...). I forwarded the home depot's receipt to TTI's customer service representative and they shipped me a new 2ah battery. They took my word that the old battery was dead and they asked me to dispose of it.

[@southaussiegarbo2054]

@@Nyall howd you dispose of it?

[@Nyall]

@@southaussiegarbo2054 You can recycle lithium ION batteries at homedepot.

[@southaussiegarbo2054]

@@Nyall australia dont got that. But just thought id ask bc 90% of ppl just toss any batteries into the garbage bin which is a huge no no

[@bentboybbz]

I just love when he says “we are Gona test that” and then he does. Great videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@bentboybbz]

@@ProjectFarm Thanks for the reply. I was thinking maybe you could test different glues in heat and cold. Not by brand but by type so we know whats best for what application.

[@rottiejakeluke]

I own an Echo, and I’ve always been a Stihl man. When I went looking I was at a dealer who had echo, Stihl, and Husky lines of chainsaws. He said I would be surprised at the Echo but I told him I thought they were a brand more for homeowners, not for a logger type person wanting an equal high quality performer. He then said, try it, you’ll like it. Echo has been making great strives in the world of professional lovers and for the money they’re hard to beat. Long story short, I LOVE IT!!! Thanks for your review.

[@nxfedlt1]

The one they have in europe is even stronger. For whatever reason they aren't bringing it to the US. 2500t model.

[@rottiejakeluke]

@@nxfedlt1 do you have any pictures of it? Would you know why it’s not coming to USA? Thanks

[@nxfedlt1]

@@rottiejakeluke there are a few reviews on YT. I called echo yesterday, and they confirmed it wouldn't be released in the US. No clue if it has to due with the batteries or what as it's a different pack. I asked about importing it, but they cautioned me about not being able to get parts or batteries.

[@aaronatwood9298]

I have had a lot of stihl stuff but have had to start to replace it all because they have all had reliability issues. I have one that one odd ball saw, a beat up old junker echo chainsaw. It has outlived all of my stihl equipment and has definitely won me over. Never had a service, just had to finally had to replace its factory bar, after over 20 years of abuse.

[@iffykidmn8170]

@@aaronatwood9298 20yrs of abuse on a factory bar. LOL

[@AverageCarGuy]

One of the rare instances were price doesn’t match performance. Thanks for a great video. The Echo and Ego both impressed me.

[@emotionz3]

I think where EGO wins is the ecosystem of compatible products. Nobody else can match that. I have two batteries for like 7 devices! Mower, blower, hedge trimmer, string trimmer, chainsaw, multi head system: currently just the edger!

[@gedeminasnacys7257]

@@emotionz3 more or less all brands from this video has multi sistems ( one battery - lots of devises who can use that batery)

[@PNWPrototyping]

The Wen has a surprisingly good ecosystem as well. Too bad the performance isn't there.

[@jaredwilcox1835]

I have watched nearly every he has put out, and it's not at all a rare instance. Often times you are paying for the name rather than the quality

[@gorkyd7912]

Typically with chainsaws more expensive = more durable and lighter weight, not necessarily cuts faster.

[@mr.g3588]

I went with the Ego because I also have their back pack blower and string weed trimer and the batteries are all interchangeable. I also think the Ego chainsaw wins here for its Price/Performance ratio.

[@rumba215]

I bought an Ego 18” from Amazon on November 8th. I had to send it back for a replacement. Got the replacement on November 27th. Sending replacement back today for full refund. A cut which should have been 5 seconds took me 20 minutes. Ego customer support is useless if you are within 30 days of your purchase date. Your only option is to return it.

[@SL1CEND1CEN]

Interchangeable batteries makes my life better

[@Intentionally_Inflammatory]

@@rumba215 Sounds like user error.

[@user-tr2dh4xx6u]

@@Intentionally_Inflammatory ikr he coulda just sawed it manually with the chainsaw lmao

[@EricLS]

@@Intentionally_Inflammatory Yeah, I 100% guarantee the chain was backwards. My old boss did that once, damn near set the tree on fire before cutting it. Hard to believe you would make it all the way to 2 replacements before looking at your own issues. This test shows that the differences are small amounts of speed, not literally doesn't work vs does.

[@bderevnin]

Dewalt, makita etc have a large catalog of battery powered tools available, and that's probably worth considering / going over in the reviews also. Great vid!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@laa0fa502]

That was in the first video. This is a part 2

[@SuperCJification]

@@laa0fa502 I think he's bringing up the point that if you buy the Stihl or Echo...that's all you get. You'd likely have no other use for the battery or no spare batteries for that tool whereas if you bought the Milwaukee/Makita/DeWalt or even the Ego you might already have outdoor power equipment or tools that can extend the use of the kit.

[@Snurre86]

echo 58v to dewalt or makita adapter

[@carpdude73]

Thank you for taking this test a step further! I was hoping you would have the Stihl in this comparison and suggested it. You are very complete and thorough with your projects and it is always a pleasure watching! Thank you for all you do! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and New Year!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@shawnelmore1189]

Situational perk to this is that if you have other DeWalt 60/20v tools, it's almost too good to pass up. The fast charger that comes with some of the kits would also improve the efficiency.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@mikafoxx2717]

I think DeWalt wins, their 60v series batteries have a lot of juice. If I started again, would go either Makita or DeWalt, I think. Oh well, cheaper to stick to the ones your friends use for when you gotta borrow a battery quick.

[@johnsherby9130]

“You can’t keep using your KZbin as an excuse to stockpile random power tools!”- his wife probably

[@ProjectFarm]

lol Thanks for watching.

[@Oblithian]

"But honey, you're going to miss our army of chainsaw-mowers when the zombies come"

[@fastsnake1]

@@Oblithian "That isn't an excuse. Buy the {{2 Giant Bubble Wands (Make 1 Gallon Total) with 2 CONCENTRATED Bubble Refill Solution for kids, Big Large Bubble Maker in Backyard, Outdoor Water Toy Game Activities, Birthday, Summer Party Favor}} from Amazon for only 14.99 plus free delivery and will arrive before Christmas to blind them!"

[@WarpedYT]

Man I was literally waiting for the notification so I could be 1st... Dam it KZbin ! Awesome video as usual! You are the F*****G KING!!!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you! Your video today on ceramic coatings is amazing!

[@Z-Ack]

Are we having our sunday beers a bit early today there guy? Lol.. gonna check out the hells going on with some ceramic coatings over there after sergeant farmer gets done playing with his wood..

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

Time to compete with the water cutter: Which iPhone models will slice into 2 fastest?

[@austinclements2665]

@@ProjectFarm please do bike pump

[@jasonlin9805]

F*********************************************

[@mikepaul2372]

Awesome comparison video. So easy to follow, the design of the tests make perfect sense and the graphs make it simple. Only suggestion would be to add a final tally graph. When searching for my new saw, I had to look at the video over and over to see what battery power was being used. I was going to buy the echo but do not like the fact that I need tools to adjust the screws on the bar. I had a gas Stihl that ran for 15 years and that was the one thing I hated. I ended up down to Dewalt and Ego. I decided to purchase the Ego CS1604 as it uses a higher capacity battery than the one tested here and made a difference when comparing. I am sure the Stihl is a great tool as I owned one but cannot justify the price for home owner usage. Would love to see another comparison using the same battery power and blade length. Awesome!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@johncage3025]

I seriously love how you’re tests are preformed.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@thegodemperorofmankind7yea704]

Your

[@mosfet500]

Thanks PF, another great review. I'd like to see how the 18" EGO with the 5 or 7.5aH battery would have done.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.

[@kenroman777]

Yes I only looked at the charts and did not know the size or battery of the ego.. I will say having both the 16 and 18 that the 16 is gathering dust right now.

[@885818499]

I love this guys channel, I’m literally watching this to decide if a battery powered chainsaw is the way to go.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you, hope you find what you are looking for!

[@chenium]

I would love to see a video about conditioning hard water. Salt based water softener vs salt free water conditioners. I've seen/heard mixed results regarding electronic water descalers as well. Thanks for your hard work!

[@ADanNeedsAName]

Is it time for a part 3?

[@conscientiousdefector]

I was pleased to see that you reviewed the EGO! Thank you for such an excellent review!

[@kevinnguyen4067]

Great informative video and straight to the point. Loved watching every second of it! Thanks for sharing!!!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome!

[@macjims9111]

Do I need a chainsaw? No. Am I going to enjoy this video and challenges he puts them through? Yes.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching!

[@BB-qp5xo]

Ego on the 5 Ah battery is the win overall. Not comparing apples with apples here. You literally said it. Thanks for the vid.

[@JohnJosefUnger]

I’d like to see you compare gas chainsaws. Echo, Stihl and Husqvarna all seem to be good brands

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@shooting4param]

With the advantages of battery, why bother? Reduction in noise, increase in torque, and a reduction in pollution (two stroke engines are insanely bad) why would anyone chose gas? This inst as complicated a choice as with cars.

[@chucks4328]

@@shooting4param I dare you to use a battery powered chainsaw on trees I cut. Battery power has it's uses but it definitely isn't going to work for everyone.

[@colonelroosevelt8789]

@@shooting4param use time. If you need to use the chainsaw for hours on end gas is the way to go

[@georgeackerman1752]

@@chucks4328 I would say "Not yet", two stroke engines are as good as they are ever going to be, where as battery keeps on improving. So they might not suit your needs right now, but will in the future

[@mineral520]

Only recently found your videos, and I am quickly understanding why you have 2 mil plus subs. No filler all killer. Excellent, informative stuff my man!

[@ProjectFarm]

Welcome! Thanks!

[@channelurviews]

Man, I was hoping to see harbor frieghts saw in this one.... maybe there will be a round 3! Thanks for the videos!!

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

There are other videos on YT where the HF Atlas battery stops on thermal overload while cutting under load. Battery will show 50% charge, but won't function until it cools down. Have no idea if their experiences are typical. Otherwise, the guys in the videos seems to like them. Dunno. I wonder if ProjectFarm experienced any thermal battery issues in his tests thus far...

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@sparkymcspark8446]

Why even bother with the Harbor Freight saw when the Echo blew the others out of the water. Good price too.

[@TheSteveo2626]

You really do listen to comments! There's the Ego!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you! I held off on buying all of the saws for a couple of weeks but had to do it! EGO makes a great saw

[@scottzettervall429]

Perhaps try the 16” Ego instead of the 14”. The 16” has a 5ah batter that will better compare and Ego sends more power to the brushless motor with the larger battery, so it should perform better.

[@Tewkzies]

I agree I would like to see how it performs with the 5ah along with the 2 extra inches.

[@roccobierman4985]

To make that Echo just a little bit better I would have liked to see removable metal bumper spikes instead of plastic permanent ones.

[@modarkthemauler]

I understand the want for the spikes but they're not there so the customer doesn't burn out the motor by putting too much pressure on the cut. It's still a battery saw. Spikes become useful in the 60cc and higher dsiplacement chainsaws.

[@TheMetalButcher]

And a better trigger lock.

[@kevinmcmaster9872]

Me: buys EGO saw PF Farm: drops video Me: cold sweats

[@adamballou4680]

First off yes I love my ego gear. He used the weakest of the ego chainsaws. I have the 18" and love it. Would of liked if he used at least the 16" which does have more power than the 14" and less than the 18"

[@BuzzingGoober]

What's to worry about? Ego is the best bar none.

[@charlesdang2557]

I feel ya. I have the EGO 16 with the 5Ah battery. It feels heavy when you are up in the tree and cutting sideways. So for casual use, combining with the smaller battery is probably the way to go. Based on this review, I am more certain the EGO is among the best performers. I no longer wish to have the Husqvarna and def will not spend up to 3x for the Stihl. I also suspect the chain sharpness and angles might play a big role in the differences in performance. I sharpen pretty regularly and I must say it really does cut like butter!

[@derekwallin2624]

Just to back up the comments above me, I work for a landscaping/tree felling company and we heavily evalutated the Ego's and the Echo's we ended up going with Echo because they feel more like a typical gas powered chainsaw and we wanted to keep consistent with our crew. However, pretty much everyone loved the Ego's. Overall our call was very close with the deciding thought being that Egos are better for home use since they also have a nice lineup of other yard equipment but Echo was better for commercial use for their slightly better cutting capability, ruggedness, and durability. In the end though, I don't think anyone should be upset about buying really any battery chainsaw, especially for home owners. They are much easier to maintain, quieter, safer, and all around a better option unless you are looking to be running it all day (even then it might be better) or felling large trees.

[@wim0104]

husqvarna or stihl don't make lawnmowers, so you should be ok.

[@mikey1297]

What do you do with all of the extra chainsaws, or brands of stuff when you’re done with them? Like you had to buy a ton of windshield wipers, zip ties, etc. what happens when testing is done?

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

Well zipties you can just keep in your garage... But i bet he probably sells the other stuff ( well stuff he doesn't destroy while testing)

[@johnjordan3126]

"Which crusher is the best? We're going to test that."

[@UnabashedOops]

He once replied to me and said he donates them to his local community

[@mikey1297]

@@UnabashedOops that’s the answer I was kind of looking for. I know zip ties probably stay around, but some of the small engine stuff, battery tools, etc. who needs 10 grease guns? 😂😂😂

[@jimssawsnstuff8903]

Great review. Good work calculating out actual number of cuts per charge. Echo looks impressive with faster cuts and long battery life. That's what I've seen with their pro top handle arborist saw too. 😎👍

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@spacepope-1]

Your financial dedication to these videos is impressive. I hope it pays tenfold for you!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@thomasmillican2839]

On the battery charging tests, it's worth considering that charging a lithium-ion battery faster usually means you'll be buying a new one sooner. I actually ordered the slow charger for my Stihl AP300 batteries for this reason.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@jerrymcintire7902]

Exactly, avoid fast chargers for tool batteries and electric cars!

[@TheLazyComet]

i know what all of project farms friends are getting for Christmas: gently used chainsaws.

[@l.nassah6728]

And firewood for the cold winter

[@vkmicrov]

I'd love to see a test of some of the budget electric lawnmowers! great video by the way, as always, thank you!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great suggestion! Thank you.

[@beri3899]

I can give you a little info about a couple I've owned. The Worx brand electric mower is super light, but replacement blades are really hard to get (and expensive). The battery also failed entirely after two summers of use. They are not affordable to replace. The Ego brand electric mower is what I've been using the last 3 years. I just fired up the battery after another winter out in the garage and it's still running like a champ. Replacement parts and batteries are also more affordable and easier to get.

[@williamrutter3619]

How long did the Stihl ms 170 cut wood for, before needing to be refilled.

[@JC-fj7oo]

Doesn't really matter much. Refilling a gas saw takes seconds. 2 minutes if you need to measure oil. For electric it matters because you need to time your 40-90 minute breaks.

[@williamrutter3619]

@@JC-fj7oo a very good point indeed, but the times would have been nice to see, the Stihl ms 170 is a much better option, when I use a chainsaw it's often a lot longer than a few minutes.

[@JC-fj7oo]

@@williamrutter3619 better is going to completely depend. Obviously if you're a professional logger, you're going to want a gas chainsaw. Or if you happen to own a very large farm, or a small forrest, park ranger... Gas is going to be the right choice. For 99% of people who aren't loggers, an electric chainsaw just makes sense. No pulling no priming no maintenance no storing gas no mixing no ear protection. You don't have to carry a running saw up a ladder, and they're easier to use at odd angles for pruning. And if you watch the end of the video he says that echo should be able to cut 32 times through a fairly thick hardwood tree. If you have an extra battery that's 60 cuts. After cutting 60 logs you're going to want to take a hour off anyway. Eat some food, let the batteries recharge. And get back to work. Or use the time efficiently, use an ax to start limbing and splitting. Plus I don't know if you noticed but the cut times for the echo were actually faster than both the stihl. Gas and electric. But even the Ryobi and the ego which are about the same price as the stihl 170 / 171 did a good job too. And they're still going to be a better choice for most people.

[@williamrutter3619]

@@JC-fj7oo one tree can be quite considerably large, and they do fall, I live on farm, not large one, a tree can take day's to sort out, 7 mins isn't running through logs isn't going to work, these petrol chainsaws start pretty easy it isn't an issue and the clutch and chain brake stops the chain from moving, a responsible owner or tenant of property needs a good chainsaw, being out of battery isn't an option.

[@JC-fj7oo]

@@williamrutter3619 Apparently you can't read, because I did say that people on farms might want a gas saw. And no a tenant should NEVER be using a chainsaw on the property, they should be calling the landlord and the landlord should be doing it or calling a service to do it. The insurance nightmare of a tenant spending hundreds on a saw and potentially causing thousands in damage or harming/killing someone/themselves to save a couple hundred on a tree service... That's retarded. And I do not use that word lightly. For a truck saw to clear a road or do some basic emergency cuts, electric works better. It's easier to store, it always starts. The gas doesn't go bad. No priming or pulling or standing in the cold trying to fuck with it. Slide the battery on, push the trigger. Put the battery on a charger once a year... Good to go. Also important to mention that the 170 and all of the electric are LIGHT duty saws. They are for homeowners and landscapers to quickly cut down and process a couple trees once in a while. Deal with limbs. Basic homeowner tasks. If you have a forest or a farm and need to cut down larger trees regularly, then you will want a bigger and more powerful saw. Expect to pay 4-500 for a pro tool. But for the 99.99% of the world that has never felled a redwood: The electric is fine. Even wranglerstar had a vid about it. He hates anything new, but he said he mostly reaches for his dewalt now. His wife and kid prefer to use the dewalt. And he has a bunch of other high quality chainsaws and manages a small forest. He got 25 cuts with his test. If you use an axe and pruners for limbing, you should be able to fell and buck a 50' tree on a single charge. And again, the vast majority of people are not qualified to cut down a tree that's more than 50' anyway. And with a spare batt they can do 2 of them. After a couple hours you can come back and do 2 more. If you need to fell more than 4 50ft trees in a day, that's NOT light duty. And you can rent a 20" chainsaw for like $50 for the day. But that's also way outside the scope of what almost all homeowners are doing with their saws. Something that is easier and faster for a shorter period of time, but still plenty to get the job done, is going to be better for most people. It you don't happen to be like most people, woohoo, you're special. Good for you.

[@Lwnmwrboy5]

Generally the best one is going to be what brand you already have for other tools so you can maximize existing chargers/batteries. For the typical homeowner, hard to justify buying a whole new platform. Excellent video like always though from PF.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

[@DavidM-cw3lh]

I've been looking for a chainsaw and for home use, looks like the Ego is the one to buy. Great testing PF 👌

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks 👍

[@Giedrius00]

Echo, not Ego. easy to mix.

[@soundped]

@@Giedrius00 Ego appears to be the budget choice

[@wt9653]

Ego 16" bar with 5.0ah battery would of made it bit more even comparison.

[@wt9653]

@@soundped Ego comes in 3 flavors. 14" 249.00 16" 299.00 18" 349.00 Each differ from performance and battery size. I have both 14 and 18. 18" is a power house

[@TerryJ-zf5zp]

I love your scientific process of testing the chainsaws. I watch your videos because of this process on all things that you review . Great job

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@JAN_DB]

I love the info on your tests ! I also would like to see a test with these saws having all the same chain. So the results are not influenced nu the quality of the chain. Also, testing different chains on the best performing saw would give good information on the quality of the chains (and sharpening)

[@gradyshades6535]

Have you tested pole saws? Thank you for all the videos you’ve done, very informative, no nonsense approach, and very impressive.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.

[@northernoutdooradventures3883]

I really like this series! Could you do another series on chainsaws in different price ranges? Under $200, 200 to 350, 350 to 500, 500 to 650, 650 and up? It could be kinda like your oil challenge?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@cwuzii]

Husqvarna should be embarrassed.

[@strelokblackburn4651]

It's a joke it's made in chyna, almost bought 1 but didn't have very good reviews, glad I bought some thing cheaper

[@yayoinkdab5883]

One saw that has impressed me is kobalt, for 200 bucks with battery and charger it is phenomenal, lot of power and torque and the factory chain is great! Didn’t have to replace/sharpen chain for over a year of decent use!! Great value

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Zertrebender]

The best Battery Powered Chainsaw is a Stihl MS500 :D the battery is in the micro controller for the Injection

[@foxtailfarm_nc7151]

I have a Wen and am very happy with it. One thing, it comes with a skip link chain. Strangely the Wen website shows a regular (Non skip link) chain as the proper replacement chain. The non skip link chain speeds up the cutting. As for battery run time, by the time the battery runs down, I am ready for a break. In any event, I plan on never having a gas saw again. No carb. to gum up and no starter cord to break!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@jessemarchand5694]

I’m sure you’ve been asked this question before but, what do you do with the products after you test them? Do you really need 12 chainsaws? 😉

[@Rj-to8qm]

i believe he dontates them to his community

[@jessemarchand5694]

@@Rj-to8qm Awesome!

[@Professor_X39]

I personally have a 16in ego with 4ah battery. It's a fantastic saw! I also have a couple other ego tools, so having the additional batteries if need be is fantastic. Highly recommended as the "go to" saw for most homeowners.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@kyles.3514]

Seems as though EGO has stepped their game up as far as batteries in their kits since this video was made. They started offering 4Ah and 5Ah batteries that last a lot longer and they still have tons of power, maybe even more in the newer models. It's really hard trying to decide between the DeWalt, Echo and EGO. I've been trying to decide for the last 9 or 10 months and still can't make up my mind...lol. These videos are fantastic though. Can't wait until you decide to do another round with all of the newest models of battery chainsaws. Looks like most of them have made some significant improvements in the last couple of years. Keep up the good work!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks, will do!

[@jacobchalut706]

I'm in the EGO ecosystem and have been for a few years now and am very happy with it so far, only minor nit picks (no chain saw yet though)

[@devinlawson4093]

Yeah ego now has an 18" using a 5ah batter with 11000 rpm and alot more power. Its a bargain at $289 without the battery and charger if you have other ego products already.

[@moxnix]

@@devinlawson4093 they should offer this more "without the battery and or charger" being some of us already have a few chargers and batteries.

[@devinlawson4093]

@@moxnix most stores don't carry the tool only but you can have them order it and save around $100

[@Imjeezus]

A comparison of popular household space heaters would be great! I feel like manufacturers lie a lot when it comes to space heaters.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@sunnydays4966]

The most you can get out of a 15 amp outlet is 15 amps. 12 amps safely. The biggest difference is how it would distribute the heat. One that with fans suck with draft. ir tend to spot heat.

[@Imjeezus]

@@sunnydays4966 trust me, that $20 “1500w” space heater is not 1500 watts. Probably in the 1000-1200 range and will not heat any space effectively. Don’t even get me started on manufacturers BTU ratings. And what about safety features? Not all space heaters are the same

[@looseleafomega]

6:29 "For the Wen" did a double take when I heard that.

[@ciaheadmechanic0809]

Not sure if there are enough additional saws to merit another video, but I’d be interested to see how Skil 40V and Greenworks chainsaws stack up against all of the others you’ve rigorously tested so far!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@benmcdannell343]

Yea I Got the Greenworks 80v & love it & I Use my Dads Kohler 80v & Thats Good too But His Kohler I Always Seem to Pop the chain about every 15 or 20 mins Yet my dad can cut for a hour & 1/2 & never pop it once but yet my greenworks I Have Never popped the chain off yet after using it for over 6 hours.

[@Vendraxus]

love my echo chainsaw i'll have to get one of those electric ones for sure.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Ifnotfriendwhyfriendshaped]

A friend of mine works at one of the big rental companies, he had a 16" stihl for a weekend. I was impressed by what it could do and how long the battery lasted. A bundle of slabs, I cut from top. Bar full depth all the way through, one and a half 8' bundles. Cut for stove size pieces. 👍👍 ** Am unsure of amp hr on battery, but approximate dimensions of battery are 5"x3"x4"

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@CuriousKL]

My concern about these battery operated saws is that you're all missing the big picture. All these electric tools have common flaw. With the saw, obviously one can sharpen or replace the chain, and replace the battery until the design of the saw changes. Other than that, is there any other replacement parts or repairable parts available for it? NO. Same goes with battery powered lawn mowers, leaf blowers, line trimmer (weed whackers), power washers, snow blowers, etc. Just 3 years ago, I purchased a Porter Cable impact driver. I used it to build some shelves in my work shop for driving construction screws. Never used it like and impact wrench for auto repair, that's for and impact wrench to do. Last year I built a new deck. When it came time to start driving screws, I grab the impact driver and the first thing I discovered was it would not hold onto the driver bits anymore. Then, the trigger started to fail. Eventually it just plain died. Can't repair them. Had to purchased a new one, but certainly not the same brand. So with that, goes 2 batteries and the charger. I can live with battery powered tools like drills and drivers, even a cordless circular saw is handy. But when it comes to outdoor power equipment, I want something I can maintain and hold onto for several years. That is NOT going to happen with these battery powered outdoor units. They are throw away and buy new products. Just more landfill junk.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@maxgoldstein6067]

Make sure you hold up the end of the bar when you tension your chain. It helps it keep its tension better. Just a tip I learned from an old timer 👍

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the tip!

[@kevinstrickland1077]

Over 2 million views and almost 9000 comments! Wow!! Was on the market for this size battery saw for chainsaw carveing in my shed. Called my sales guy today and told him to write up an invoice for an echo dcs5000(it's the first one they brought in,i live in a small town) This video was definently the decideing factor...thank you!!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@abdulsingati1511]

If I’m gonna spend $800 on a saw, It’s not going to be a battery saw. Would be better off buying a MS 362

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@RamseyEO]

100% or even a 371 woodboss

[@garrettglenewinkel7366]

I have the EGO 56v trimmer and blower and I’m definitely going to add the chainsaw and an extra battery. As long and you have 2 batteries or a larger battery then it’s perfect for everything at the house. I also love the speed control! Edit: I have a half acre with a lot of thick grass and shrubs. It still manages to get the job done.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@jamarnicholas5697]

The Ego I have is a step up and $369 and smokes DeWalt

[@davegaetano7118]

How about a video on those small 6' handheld battery chainsaws?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@ictpilot]

For the money the best all around deal seems to be EGO and DeWalt. The other thing about the ego is you could put a 5 amp hour battery into that and increase the run time. I have a 21 inch ego self-propelled mower, and it's about the best more I've ever had. The wheels are so good on those ball bearings, I hardly ever use the self-propelled like I thought I would.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@goodolddave]

Baloney! You HAVE to use similar amp hour batteries for some of these tests... runtime and speed of cuts etc... using an ego 7 amp hour battery will outperform an ego 2 amp hour battery in torque and runtime etc... even comparing a 2 amp hour battery milwaukee to a 2 amp hour ego will be different...

[@tomplucknette5941]

I appreciate all the effort that went into this video, thank you! Do any of these battery chainsaws offer a chain brake??? 😢

[@shermdog6969]

Price of that wood probably cost more than the saws.😁

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching!

[@topdogsean1]

Your videos are amazing! Considering the post below about brand loyalty, I'd just like to add that I have an Echo leaf blower (gas) and love it. It was top rated according to CR and is A+ so far in 2 years.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

[@bigjay7433]

I really enjoy the Matter of Fact way you present your videos. On your suggestion I purchased the Dewalt 60V from these videos. I am impressed with it throughly. Thank you for making videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Glad to hear you were impressed with your purchase!

[@racekar80]

I am wondering if you sharpened the blades? Anyone that searches chain sharpening can see that the most important variable in speed is the sharpness of the chain. Most saws don’t come out of the box with a super sharp chain.

[@ivancounsell4077]

Here in England I use an EGO saw, it has a Kerf chain and does cut well and goes for quite a while before it needs sharpening. A really good useable saw for the money.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@PollockWSeth]

I love these videos! Your methods of testing really does a great job of eliminating bias! A lot of brands share batteries across tools and for the average consumer it may make sense to stick to a single brand when getting equipment. In your opinion, is there a brand that is best overall? I would love to see this in a video somehow!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@ljprep6250]

The trigger delay and any speed ramp-up is usually referred to as "soft start". The ECHO impressed me, but I'd still go for that little Stihl MS170. Another fine test, sir.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@M5tworude]

I have the Stihl MS200 with the 300 battery with quick charger. It's expensive but works great. The saw feels like a quality, robust tool. We also bought the Stihl blower. I had an EGO and returned it because it seemed so cheaply made and the hesitation drove me crazy. I think that I'll check out the ECHO for an additional electric saw. We live 80 miles from the nearest utility pole and I have to fly in my gasoline but we have robust solar and the rest is self explanatory. One additional thing in electrics favor is you do not have to warm up the saw and the gas saws are a pain to start in the Alaskan winter. Really appreciate your videos!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@dini1046]

Well done, just had our first Nor-Easter and we got some storm cleanup so I stopped by the best channel in the sea of YT.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@mikey4016]

That Husqvarna was the lowest end of their range and I think the only one made by slaves in china (at least all I've seen in stores have been made in Europe). Were all of these other saws the lowest end of their ranges? I like your videos so much that you are one of only two people I'm subscribed to, but comparing low end of the range to high end of the range isn't a proper review.

[@dagurorarinsson2827]

this is one of those things that isn't really realistic you cant really expect him to spend 10 thousand dollars to review saws most of us cant afford or need

[@reaperreaper5098]

The Ego 14" he tested was also the lowest end one. It and the 16" are 6800RPM models, the 18" model is 11,000 RPM. The 18" model is also $350 with a 5Ah battery, while the 14" is $250 with the 2.5Ah battery. $100 gets you twice the battery and around 35-40% more rippems, so a good chain speed boost.

[@pokom9463]

I've really enjoyed these comparisions. I'd like to suggest testing Chainsaw Gloves and/or Pants. Seems like it would be a fun one to watch! And useful to know.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.

[@lawpickinglocksmith7689]

Wen promise: Cuts a 100% guaranteed 100 matches on a single charge!

[@GoblinKnightLeo]

In fairness he was cutting really hard hardwood.

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

They probably meant cutting small branches haha

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@jp410]

Weight (with battery and chain) would be another good metric for comparison, for those who have issues that prevent using a saw over a given weight for any real duration of time.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@dougjb7848]

In a test of Marketing Department BS cutters, Project Farm is by far the best. Only takes one pass to cut through even the deepest layer of adjectives and asterisks.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@Huzzunga]

I’m happy with my 14” Ego for its use. Up in the tree and saplings, even dropped a couple of 8-10” trees. Plus the batteries are all interchangeable with my Ego blower and string trimmer. Which means I can run the 5 & 4 amp hour batteries. 😊As an aside I’d put my Ego string trimmer up against my former Stihl FS314 (?) model I had years ago.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jayr526]

Stihl crazy after all these cuts. I continue to be amazed at your videos. Thank you!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@elmg.684]

Awesome. This right here is how ag equipment reviews should be.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@justmeandthethree]

I knew the Echo would do well. They are good saws. When I worked in logging one of my employers had a great Echo saw. It was a little heavier than the Stihls, but it was smoother and quieter.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@netcowboy007]

Project Farm for the win!! As always dead on flow and comparison information. Maybe he already covered it and I missed it, but would like to see a windshield wiper comparison/review.

[@ProjectFarm]

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[@robwalters4524]

Great channel! I really appreciate the lack of wasted time you see in other channels! Please include Menards brand “MasterForce” in your upcoming videos

[@itsjustme1949]

Another outstanding demonstration. Certainly shows the most expensive product may be far from the best.

[@georgecolbert3247]

Great two-part series. Suggestion: Battery operated snow shovel and batt op weed eaters/trimmers

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestions.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Well done! As far as I can see, relevant aspects were tested. Just wonder about one thing: Did You check the chains, eventually sharpen them, to evaluate the machines and not trip on differing chain quality?

[@dznnf7]

There's a ton of BS on YT, and this channel cuts through it. Great content!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@invaderzim1265]

LOL!! 😂 he sure did!

[@joe-pc]

Nice pun!

[@GumbootZone]

That's another test for him! "Which KZbin channel is the most BS?"

[@Dynesgorandom]

I guess we didn't... saw this coming.