Candle Wax to Loosen Rusty Nuts a Myth or Hack? Let's find out!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you all for continuing to offer terrific video ideas like this one! Product links below but highly recommend shopping around for the best possible price. Thanks again, Todd Sea foam: amzn.to/2Qn2rgx Liquid Wrench: amzn.to/2EnUOEb Candle: amzn.to/3ggQ0gR

[@timothycampbell8053]

This isn’t how you utilize wax as a rust breaker

[@shootingshane2225]

You did a while back ago a video of what is the best gun oil can you do an update under the gun oils today like FrogLube and some of the modern oils what is the best gun oil

[@weld4200]

Project Farm . i have a qurstion maybe you can answer . on your thermal camera the open flame only appeared to be at the max 275 degrees.. How can that be ?

[@kennethjoachimdecastrobend4092]

At my workplace we have 3 different model battery testers that we use to test car batteries. Oddly enough, we get 3 different test results when I test the same battery ??? I do not know which one I can trust ??? The models we use are the following: EXIDE BT501 - 413 usd / GYS BT551 - 950 usd / YUASA MDX627P - 1200 usd. It would be nice if you could make a program about battery testing, and perhaps find the most accurate battery tester on the market. I do not use Facebook and the like, but have an e-mail address "[e-mail]" You are welcome to write to it if you have any questions. With best regards. Kenneth Bendix, Denmark.

[@martyhorten3743]

@@shootingshane2225 KAT formula - Kerosene, Acetone, Turpentine.

[@angst_]

The correct way to loosen a nut with candle wax is to pour the molten wax into your eyes; the pain and adrenaline will increase your strength to a superior level. Perfect for those stubborn nuts and bolts.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the constructive feedback.

[@horuskin]

Lol

[@jirka87]

@@ProjectFarm This is actually hilarious comment from Joshua :-D :-D :-D

[@lawnmowerrepairsandstuff3154]

or just pour it on your nut while the wax is at a boiling point, & your nut will fall off (I would suggest morphine or some other very good pain killer, though).

[@mrcokez1]

Edgy Kids

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Applying hot wax to your nuts just sounds like a really bad idea.

[@fortj3]

That's what SHE said.

[@DocR16]

Sounds kinky though

[@chloehennessey6813]

fortj3 no she didn’t 👩‍✈️👩‍✈️

[@crisprtalk6963]

how come I can never think of these jokes!

[@RolandtheThompsonGunner]

Some people pay to have that done.

[@tatertot1053]

This guy is the high priest of weekend warriors. Providing answers to all of us who seek and question these things on our way to The Box Store

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@iain1969]

The grand poobah

[@mrmidnight32]

Tater Tot as a mechanic and general do it you selfed since I was a kid, he’s a god send to all of us. Even the professionals haha

[@poptya]

And us who work at the box stores to know what to recommend :)

[@wilfbentley6738]

@@ProjectFarm Another ancient method for loosening nuts is to apply Coca-Cola and let it soak.

[@Arariel3]

Had to watch this one a couple of times. Fantastic tests again! I can hear my father now, "Just get the breaker bar. If it shears we didn't want it anyway. Bolts are cheap."

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@stefanposey8631]

Ui124fzc cc'ff ggv cx ilike is a good idea 3AM is 6AM and I am

[@snipertdog308win9]

Get a longer Cheater pipe.

[@mikeymartin4751]

I have some what of the same mentality. I can always upgrade the bolt.

[@vaughanscott7308]

Getting a broken bolt out is a nightmare.!!!!! Your dad was foolish.

[@Jaimesgaming]

🤔 this channel needs to be on tv playing nonstop for a year. Very entertaining

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!!

[@paulpalta2607]

Ditto

[@swankylegends5492]

Im 12 and this is what i decide to watch on a daily basics

[@fetusman2248]

@@swankylegends5492 Sorry, but you're underaged. (It's ok, I don't care lol)

[@all3n1k]

Fetusman 224 better when they learn young😄

[@oinka720]

so glad you heated the control nuts too. A lot of people (even scientists) miss little details like that.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@678friedbed]

this is probably one of the only channels that takes his followers suggestions seriously. his videos and tests are always getting better

[@Greg_Chock]

On all your tests I'm amazed at how big the random difference between bolts/nuts with the same treatment. Without testing you could easily say your favorite technique worked when it was just by random chance that it was a nut that was easier to remove than its neighbor.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point. Getting bolts to rust evenly is nearly impossible.

[@MisterHighway]

That's exactly why he uses multiple attempts at each method. It gains an average value or if you're lucky, confirms repeatability.

[@francescacalderoni2894]

One thing I used to use was heat the nut with a torch, then flip an air duster can and spray the bolt until icy. Worked like a charm most of the time. I'd be curious if that were just my imagination or if it's a verifiable action.

[@leedress2187]

Tried and true method. Expand the nut and shrink the bolt. Freed fastener

[@steadyeddie7453]

I've heard a similar process. Heat w torch, then throw cold water on the frozen nut/bolt. You will hear a tick or pop, which is the rusty bond breaking free. I have never tried this though. I just heat the nut quickly with acetylene, and dont let the heat tip touch the bolt. The idea is to heat the nut so quickly the bolt doesn't expand, only the nut.

[@dougbrook6223]

Thanks for the video

[@tonymicklose2778]

I've done the same and it worked well, but the one time the canned air went up in flames and I lost some facial hair, so be careful!

[@magana559]

When you should be doing something important but project farm has a new video.

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you!

[@timothkeyyprice]

Coincidence: About noon on Monday was raising the blade on my snowblower by dropping down the skids. Hadn't done anything to them for 20 years and 4 bolts were really rusted. Got two of the nuts off, but the other two had to torque so hard that the bolts snapped, which was fine, they popped off easily. Came inside and watched your video and got inspired. Bought some bright shiny replacement bolts, washers and nuts. Put them in a pan with a bit of candle and heated to smoking. Put them out to cool and they clouded over as the wax set up. It made a tough coating that adheres pretty well. Screw together very smoothly. Gotta help prevent rust. Bees wax or cheese coating wax might be even better. I think it might be a long while before the threads of the nuts and bolts rust together. Seems to be a good preventative.Maybe you can use this. Thanks for your work. Tim

[@ProjectFarm]

Tim, Great strategy to prevent rust! I believe you're on to something and I will likely put together a video on this soon. Regards, Todd

[@timothkeyyprice]

Like your idea of doing videos on prevention. Don't forget about using thin superglue on rusty metal repair. Best discovery of my auto repair life ;-)

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

@@ProjectFarm I see Eric O on @Southmain Auto Channel uses Fluid Film as a rust prevention. Might want to add it to the list.

[@ov3rcl0cked]

What would the advantage here be over anti-seize? Just that it prevents rust on the entire bolt?

[@wolfie_studio1082]

My dad's Toyota Camry his rear rims were welded to the hub. His rear seats in the drums popped and was leaking break fluid everywhere we plugged the line and the rear drums got Soo hot that the rear hubs had to be torched off at the garage including the lugnuts. Crazy what metals can do on their own.

[@NoobCannon1234]

No small engines were harmed in the making of this video

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@787brx8]

Maybe next time???😱

[@fidelcatsro6948]

ahahahahah

[@spankey0069]

Unfortunately!

[@shawnmfb2477]

Best comment!

[@wparo]

This molten wax idea probably showed up in one of those Facebook feeds that are shared a billion times and have a trillion likes for no apparent reason. Glad the myth is busted.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback

[@demoman1282]

Five minute crafts

[@markc6714]

The myth will hang around. Believers will offer excuses. It's just like idiots that believe in "climate change". In the 80s we were heading for a new ice age, then a few years later they decided it was global warming. When it was proven wrong they changed the name to climate change. There's an industry around it now so the propaganda continues. We had record temps in 1908 but not in between...so that was climate change too and it disappeared?? Rambling now... anyway fools will believe any myth is my point

[@whocares317]

@@markc6714 Climate change is real, and no myth, and we are still heading for a new ice age, because earth has had ice ages once every 10 to 20k years. If you have a basic understanding of chemistry, undertanding the science involved is not very hard.

[@markc6714]

@@whocares317 I have 2 degrees in organic and analytical chemistry so yeh I'm all squared away with the chemistry side of things. BTW, lesson 1 was how to spell chemistry..... dumbass.

[@andresaofelipe]

The wax is just too viscous to penetrate rust. But I wonder: coating the bolts on wax before screwing them could actually prevent rust from forming and that would be an interesting test

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@jonathanschrader7881]

Need more heat this works dont listen to a dude heating steel with anything less than mapp gas

[@heinzerbrew]

@@jonathanschrader7881 I always use plasma from the sun and the wax works everytime!

[@Lady8D]

André Felipe I'd really like to see a test such as this!

[@1danny2k]

Carpenters of olden days coat screw threads in soap to ease tightening of screws

[@anappleaday......7001]

Rust has driven me crazy since I was a kid, even as a teen with little money I would invest in stainless steel hardware. Fun test, seems there's no end to age old myths one could check. I remember my Grandfather pouring antifreeze on a stump to accelerate it's decay, years later I found out antifreeze actually prevents rot. Got to admit these myths are fun to explore and every once in a while one turns out to be true.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@kusgilb]

Rust Never Sleeps - Neil Young

[@grizzlygrizzle]

Stainless isn't suitable for all applications. You know about galling? Or thread-galling?

[@awashbowler]

@@grizzlygrizzle thread galling isnt what would make stainless unsuitable for some applications. Anyone who has the common sense to use stainless would also have the common sense to use antiseize so thread galling is almost never an issue. The real problem with stainless is just the strength of the material itself... that is what makes it not suitable for all applications... not thread galling.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

@@awashbowler Stainless steel is a lot better known than galling. It's not common sense to people who don't know about galling.

[@mustie1]

urban legend, but wonder the difference between removing when hot verses cold, thanks for the great videos,

[@ProjectFarm]

Hi Mustie1, Thank you very much and a HUGE congratulations on 200K subscribers. I believe you are right that removing while hot would make a difference. Keep the videos coming. I really enjoy them!

[@CaptHollister]

Stop wasting time watching YT, Mustie, and go reshoot that Honda TL video you lost ! Just kidding. I'm not surprised that two of my favourite YT channels are fans of each other.

[@MRrwmac]

Mustie1 Good question Mustie1. I was curious also.

[@wecatchfish9531]

That would be just like putting heat to a bolt without wax. There was no penetration of the wax. There for the wax wasnt doing anything but coating the nut.

[@TheDrteeth]

Just replied to your comment on the cars and cameras video. Looks like we watch the same stuff. Maybe I should ask for channel suggestions. Do you watch the boostedboiz or pfi?

[@nihonkokusai]

Very real life testing, this channel rocks. Love Todd doing these tests for us.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@franscartoons]

You did it wrong. The candle should be made of seafoam. 😉

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@thomasjefferson8875]

Lolz

[@haydenc2742]

LOL

[@MiscerVids]

Lmao

[@YKLABATYD]

its made of paraffin not wax

[@chuckiiidee8704]

I learn a lot from your videos. Thank you for doing the "dumb" experiments I'm not allowed to!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@nz2940]

This is such a great channel. All videos never leave me with any questions to ask, very thorough and informative...that goes for all his videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow, thank you!

[@iamdarkyoshi]

Since youtube lets you add polls in the videos, you should add one at the start of your videos to see what everyone thinks the outcome will be.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great recommendation!

[@678friedbed]

or for the next video. like at the end of one video you could be like next video will be petroleum in the crank case, what will happen, vote for what will hapen and we will find out next.

[@benfbuilder]

*instinctively hits none of the above to get back to the video asap*

[@equalizer4633]

benfbuilder Thats an ad, not a poll which is part of the video

[@homefront3162]

iamdarkyoshi Funny idea... I win!!

[@dylanc2806]

pretty great that you read all the comments, some of the ones here are hilarious and gave me a good laugh

[@ProjectFarm]

I enjoy reading the comments! Thank you

[@d1strappazon]

ya like just pour the wax in your eyes. lol

[@homefront3162]

⭐️

[@hithereperson8137]

What the cinnamon toast fuck is this?

[@dickrichard626]

@@hithereperson8137 invisible pf pic? Lol how did you match the grey perfectly?

[@rybosaurus5664]

After watching all your videos I would love to see a tour of the Project Farm and your workshop! 👍🏼

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@rm25088]

your videos are the best out of anyone on youtube. I have spent countless hours watching. Been a subscriber for years and I always come back.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@stewartbruce2409]

Dear PJ I have watched many of your video's, and have learned much desired information. You really contribute to this wonderful resource of youtube!! Thank you for your excellent testing, comparison productions. All the best from New Rochelle N.Y.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@dangrey5463]

Great video! If you haven't already tested/compared freeze sprays like CRC or Max Pro to break bolts, please consider testing them in your next iteration of tests.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@Meekerextreme]

What if you used A Torch to heat up a rusty nut and then apply some dry ice to quickly shrink it or liquid nitrogen?

[@ProjectFarm]

Great video idea!

[@anonymousfarm4703]

Meeker Extreme that one guy crazy Russian hacker always used to play around with liquid N & doing diff things. I’d say once PF got his hands on a large amount of some, that he’d find all kinds of cool things to try testing & experimenting on! Haha I believe Mr. Gear has done a few different tests using it as well

[@PlumdogMilli0naire]

I was just thinking the same thing!

[@tarstarkusz]

The heat alone tends to help.

[@CapeCodCNC]

Actually I have used heat and canned air turned upside down. Heat the nut with a torch to expand it and freeze the bolt/stud with the canned air turned upside down to shrink it. It will practically fall off.

[@buelowexcavating]

Great video! I have never tried this but an old-timer that told me about it, he said to heat until red, allow the gray color to return, strike with a hammer three times, apply the bee's wax, let it cool to room temp then remove. To prevent bolts from seizing on use anti seize. When you get a new can thin it some with oil or the applicator will break before the can is empty. About 40 years ago I wanted to see if the stuff really worked. I replaced the exhaust gaskets on my V8 motor in my truck. On the right side, I used anti seize, on the left side I used grease gun grease. A couple of years later I had to remove the manifolds again. On the right side I broke the nuts free and the nuts came off very easily. On the left side, they fought all the way off.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@fmoore003]

30 years ago I worked at a machine shop, and my first job was to clean engines before they were allowed in the shop. The first step being to remove everything. The little pipe plugs in the oil galleries were the worst . I tried penetrants , but all I got were rounded off plugs . The machinist checked on me and saw my frustration, and got the torch and a block of paraffin wax , heated the plug , not the surrounding area, till it was red , then as it cooled he explained that heating caused the plug to swell ,and crush the rust . Then as it cooled enough he touched the paraffin to the area , and said it would penetrate and lubricate the threads as well as the spray stuff would and was cheeper . Seemed to work pretty well .

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for this information

[@normalbikeguy2658]

fmoore003 this is exactly how I’ve seen it done in the same scenarios

[@Dakotart112]

I was taught this in college

[@wmjohnson7063]

Used it all the time when I-was die casting aluminum we used bees wax and a torch on the dies . That was 30 years ago.

[@randyatkins1606]

I build engines all the time just heating the plugs up then let them cool down they come loose with ease with no lubricant whatsoever.Does it every time.

[@willierants5880]

I had all sorts of opinions early on while watching, but then you addressed them in the 2nd and 3rd tests. For an independent tester on KZbin you do a really thorough job.

[@cloudstrife6435]

Who else came to the comments to read all the "you did it wrong" shade tree mechanics?

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@williamsinger4124]

I came for the video, but, all the experts in the comments are a bonus. I would bet my business that 70 percent or better haven't turned a single wrench, yet feel they know everything, and will get straight up rude and even worse

[@KoburaCape]

As a self taught wrencher with a focus on material science (and lubrication specifically) I always thought it was ridiculous to assume that parrafin would have penetrating power vs an oil...

[@MegaDirtyberty]

@@williamsinger4124 Agreed, to the point they get very confrontational. I have been doing this kind of stuff since I was a kid and never had much money so learnt all sorts of tips and tricks. Doesn't mean I will slag off anybody because they didn't do it my way though.

[@williamsinger4124]

@@MegaDirtyberty exactly. I learned a lot from from old school guys, as well as self taught. I love a good discussion with random people, even varying opinions etc. But to act like one knows it all, then they get butthurt bc they're proven wrong, that's just ignorant. I love being proved wrong, that means I learned something new. Whatever happened to that mentality with people?

[@markthomas4083]

Hey mr. Project Farm I use the same awesome Sawzall blades they really are wonderful. And I appreciate the cut cutaway view seeing exactly how far the penetrating oil did penetrate thank you sir

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@HifiCentret]

Not really surprised since molten candle wax is more or less like kerosene just thicker and it needs to be warm to creep. It might help if threads was treated before tightened. Also you miss to try one thing. Most people don't realize that there's actually two types of candles. Paraffin based ones (like kerosene) and stearin based ones (and mixes). Stearin is very different than paraffin. When hot enough it's very liquid and slight acidic. Might have been a better choice (just guessing). Beside I think you should also try kerosene (aka lamp oil, heater fuel). The benefit of kerosene is that it creeps very well even at low temperature - so just let time do the work.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@joneser30]

Yep candle wax doesn't work but parafin wax works,a lighter is lame also you need a torch . I've used this Technique lots of times it has done what penetration oil couldn't

[@ratataran]

@@joneser30 I call bullshit on that. How can paraffin work and not the penetrating oil?

[@47f0]

@@joneser30 - first, almost all modern candles are made of paraffin. Second, waxes are all long-chain hydrocarbons - big fat molecules that do not penetrate well.

[@jamesg7022]

I find the wax lubricates after it breaks free from the heat. Ever heat an exhaust stud and undo the nut and it squeals as you remove it? With wax there is no squealing. In my head, I feel it prevents the nut from gaulling on the stud when you heat it up.

[@danbanowetz]

Another great video, Thx! I almost tried candle wax last weekend when I was working on a rusty brake caliper bolt. Glad I didn't waste my time! Here's a video idea. Apply Anti-seize to bolts before you install them. Then do your accelerated corrosion process, then see how much torque it take to release compared to control.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@JamesHegedus-pw4fc]

I'm 70 years old. I grew up on a farm. I still have equipment from my father's time. Any bolts we used anti-seize on come off with mental effort. Others require the acetylene torch.

[@DonPablo2011]

So you had bolts with Wax on, Wax off.

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you!

[@DergEnterprises]

Good video. In welding class (college) we were taught to use an acetylene/oxy torch to heat just the both, then use the wax. The idea being that the bolt wants to expand when heated and can only expand lengthwise, allowing the wax to creep in. There was demo in class, but I've never used it since. I just use PB Blaster.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@DD-DD-DD]

I suspect the myth is getting it exactly backwards - candlewax on a nut and bolt should PREVENT rust, because it seals the threads away from oxygen and moisture. That's another property of Loctite that people often overlook, as a rust preventer.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point. Thank you.

[@johnhandcock3242]

@@ProjectFarm Sounds like a decent video idea? Apply the loctite and wax, and then tighten to 50 ft lb, and then toss that thing outside for 6 months.

[@Turbochargedtwelve]

Now here’s a good project idea, testing the efficacy of various anti-seize products and you could potentially throw loctite thread sealant and this wax in there too.

[@campbellparminter158]

I like that thought pattern.

[@AdamHammel]

Do a couple of bolts with just wax or just (blue) loctite. I don't think wax is a good thread lock, though. It has the lowest friction coefficient. If applying wax to the head (and not the threads) directly might make wrench slip inevitable, and increase torque needed to take the bolt off. A true control would be just rusty bolts, no heat applied. There are cyclists that make DIY dry bicycle chain lube, so maybe there formulas would penetrate better. The alcohol in there formula is the penetrant/dispersant. Also, I use 50/50 alcohol to transmission fluid for my penetrating fluid. Works wonders if let to sit, and is cheap n easy. I only make enough to use immediately, because it has no shelf life and will gell.

[@danthemowermedic4444]

I've always been curious of old timers using ATF in diesel fuel as an additive for lubricity and anti gel. As always you do an amazing job.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@walterk1221]

The keyword is "old timers"... don't put ATF in ANY modern (high pressure common rail) Diesel! ATF has *friction modifiers* aka *abrasives* so unless you wish to prematurely replace very expensive injectors don't even think about it. Now if the engine is an old 71-series Detroit then the abrasives in the ATF will clean the unit injectors used in those engines.

[@danthemowermedic4444]

@@walterk1221 I've put ATF in my 6.5l Detroit diesel. Didn't seem to affect it

[@jonwood6260]

@@walterk1221 how bout the international 6.9 and 7.3 IDIs?

[@walterk1221]

@@jonwood6260 I am not sufficiently familiar to answer, apologies.

[@IROCZman15]

when can I have my lawnmower back??

[@ProjectFarm]

lol!

[@Oddman1980]

Are you new to this channel? You don't WANT your mower back.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

ahahahaha

[@robertevans6481]

He does clean up the head on it very well...

[@dosmastrify]

You're my hero

[@robertmorin6495]

I would like you test to test an idea I had. Try heating a rusted nut and bolt (concentrating the heat on the nut) and rapidly COOL THE BOLT ONLY with an ice cube or some other icy method. Leave the nut to be as hot as possible and try to remove. The theory is that the bolt shrinks maybe a thousandth or two when cooled to break the rust bond. The nut will also get cold and shrink when the bolt inside gets cold but maybe not before the rust bond is broken.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@jedonyoutube5018]

What I think works best is Acetone and ATF (automatic transmission fluid) type F (Ford) mixed 50 50. Have had great success with this homemade concoction found on KZbin. Thank you to both Project Farms and Muskie channels, great info always.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@jayhay1237]

That's just about my preferred concoction. I mix diesel and used atf 50/50. Can be stored in plastic spray bottle, unlike acetone...

[@allanholiday441]

Just love this channel. It's very accurate and well thought out. I'm a scientist and can say his thought processes are exceptional.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@larryburnett100]

Another great video the wax definitely didn't work but on the other hand it probably smelt better 👍🔧🔧

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@f.demascio1857]

🐟Smelt🐟

[@jorggamingcr409]

Maybe using Lavender candle will make the work more relaxing

[@Werewolfmage]

@@jorggamingcr409 haha

[@Shaker626]

Smelting is something you do metal ores, I think you mean smelled.

[@jivepatrol6833]

This is a great video! I was going to try wax on an old front stabilizer link but watched this first. Seems like wax is a waste of time. I DID try Liquid Wrench that was a winner in one of your other videos and the stuff is amazing. I applied it a few days before and then again when I started the job. I worked the fasteners back and forth - tightening a 2-3 threads and then backing off and applying more Liquid Wrench along the way. This method works really well! I find myself watching your videos before undertaking a job to use the best products and to get some good tips. I really appreciate the work you do and your channel! Thank you and all the best!

[@myusername111]

You should test marine stuff vs car stuff to see if the extra price that "marine" carries is warranted. Just bought a ⛵

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@yumpinyiminy963]

You have to be careful about what marine stuff you are talking about and where you buy it. If you buy it at a marine store you will pay more because of volume. Marine grade is not always different say from auto but if you are in salt water, many electronic and metal parts mater.

[@henryhenry3832]

Project Farm did this turn into a video yet? If it did can you share the link please

[@0xsergy]

@@henryhenry3832 if you're talking about marine grease that shit is 10x harder than regular grease to get off your hands. that in itself tells me it'll prolly stick around longer.

[@henryhenry3832]

0xsergy I was just wondering if it was a made video I could watch yet.

[@Dude13450]

8:52 "It did its job, penetrating and help releasing the nut" My god, why am I such a child?!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@vincentrobinette1507]

It's penetrating oil for me.

[@joelkelly169]

@@vincentrobinette1507 yup

[@spencer9352]

Dude13450 yea why are you. grow the fuck up.

[@murderouskitten2577]

you are not alone :)

[@Eggplant_Aubergine]

So according to the comments the real trick is to heat the holy hell out of it and the *MOLTEN* metal will come off with wax :-)

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Great point.

[@AJvsEverything]

No, you warm the bolt up until it can melt the wax itself without a flame on it...it doesn't have to be cherry red, just warm enough to melt the wax when you push against the bolt...putting a candle over a flame and dripping wax over a bolt won't do anything, he could just as well have put cream cheese cupcake frosting on the bolts and gotten the same result...

[@trippmotorsports4240]

@@AJvsEverything Mmmm, frosting

[@ralphlongo1975]

Literally lol'ed at this. Then read the comments and got bummed about the sticks in the mud :(

[@sknerl]

I use a simple propane torch like for soldiering joints and wax. You’re trying to get it to flow much like soldier. If you do it right, you’ll see wax at least halfway.

[@berniewilliamson4823]

You answered every one of my questions as they entered my mind, AND you did it in a clear and direct manner. Technical quality of your video was great too! BTW - I've been writing, producing and directing training and promotional videos for over 35 years -- looooong before KZbin! Great job! I'll keep following - and LEARNING!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@jamesmills844]

I think he needs his own show on discovery channel, I really enjoy the video’s ,

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank You!

[@vintagethrifter2114]

The Discovery Channel is a good way to ruin a good program.

[@KamalasVACANTwomb]

Discovery channel is sadly just propaganda and state programming anymore

[@patrisha7487]

No! YT is better, many including myself turned off their television service. I choose what I view on YT. On a paid tv service, I am forced to watch garbage, meaning reality & fake news. If I hadn't shut off my service, and listened to my grandson I wouldn't have discovered YT & the vast material to view.

[@AndroidAppGuy]

The Karate Kid finds your lack of faith in wax... disturbing. Wax on, wax off... :-)

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you!

[@hawkeye454]

Very interesting....another fantastic video my friend! Always a treat to see a new Project farm video!

[@petergruben3649]

if you knew what was really being said wax on whacks off ! sexual programming in everything

[@ricksanchez6384]

Haha master grasshopper

[@jonjoem-walton7381]

I like this kind of video. As an engineer some of the stuff people tell me or I see online is laughable. It's nice when I can go look here, here's a totally legitimate test

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@pierresdecor365]

Hi Todd. Like your videos.. I worked in a garage that was replacing mufflers and the most difficult bolts to remove on a car are the ones around the exhaust manifold because the studs tend to break when attempting to remove the nut. To be able to unscrew the nuts on the studs, we heated the nuts until they were red - yellow and then sprayed a large quantity of water with a large squeeze bottle to cool the nut as quickly as possible and it unscrewed quite well. . An extra step was done if the stud was rotten a lot, after the heating and cooling, we sprayed loose nut and let it penetrate 10 min before unscrewing. It's been almost 40 years since I did this job, I was 16, and I think the loose nut penetrated quite well between the stud and the nut.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

[@TreyCook21]

Do you think the candle wax would be a good alternative for anti-seize? It should keep water out and keep it from rusting.

[@ProjectFarm]

I should test this! Thank you

[@devintran9884]

I like this idea. I've used it on chains and it does a treat.

[@sparkiekosten5902]

That is exactly what I got out of this video. Using wax as never seize!

[@peglegnoid6139]

@@ProjectFarm Add powdered graphite to wax as a Anti-Seize

[@mrmidnight32]

I’ve always laughed at people who did this. It’s just the heat. Finally I have proof. Thank you sir for showing me I’ve been right the whole time.

[@ProjectFarm]

Glad to help!

[@thomasjames734]

Sorry but I know for a fact this works I've had a pinion but stuck on a semi using a 1inch impact wouldn't budge so I heated it cherry red still nothing don't move at all heated it again red hot impact did nothing repeated this again with no positive results got out from the truck grabbed a candle applied candle used the impact and it spun it off without hesitation as if it was only hand tight

[@mrmidnight32]

Diesel wrench explain how this works then. I’d love to hear it.

[@thomasjames734]

Don't have a clue how it works all I know is it's saved my ass on more then one occasion where heat alone did not help

[@thomasjames734]

I'm talking a 1 inch drive impact putting out over 2,000 ftlbs of torque would not move a cherry red nut after heating it up multiple times letting it cool heating it back up it didn't turn at all not even a 1/8 ofan inch applied a candle the nut Wis still hot enough from the previous try and it removed the but like it was never stuck

[@mankave585]

I have used the "wax trick" only for 1 type of threaded dilemma, more specifically it involved removing aluminum couplers ( aka lovejoy coupler ) from crank shafts in the 2 stroke world. Since most DIY mechanics do not have a "coupler removal " tool due to it's cost and the frequency used they are rare . Most of the time guy's are modifying their own jetski pumps and the crankshaft to pump shaft coupled connection has been fastened together a decade or more prior by OEM technicians. In reality.... the connection has been untouched through more heat/cool cycles than I care to calculate, which may contribute to rigidity of the bond ? The method I have used involved applying low to moderate heat to the coupler , then melting the parafin directly ontop of the crankshaft threads ( center of the coupler ) and letting the assembly cool to room temp. I have come back after the cooling was complete , even the next day and with a soft hammer ( lead ) tapped the coupler with a couple quick "raps" it's loose. I really has worked well for me... ! For some reason " forum boards " are loaded with tales from overzealous mechanics nearly destroying their couplers to get them removed. This is the only time I have used this technique and to date it has not let me down. As far as removing " rusted " fastener components .... regardless of how much heat ( +/- 1500 deg ) which is cherry red !!! I don't know if I would buy into that tale from the farside. Maybe something else was contributing to the success of removal .... such as the extreme heat ,when used on a carbon steel would bake the carbon out of the metal thus facilitating it's removal. Acting as a dry lubricant in between the mating surfaces.... something that only the most discriminating eye may see and analytical mind would propose . Now that I would buy to a limited degree. ( It may be possible ) My .02

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@randomdaveYT]

Ok, twice I started to type an opinion, only to hear you doing it already before I finished. Liked that lol. Only thing is; we'd apply heat (extreme heat) to a nut, then loosen while it was still hot. Not cherry red hot but just after it'd die down a little. Expansion, apparently, is key. Heat up the nut to expand and be loose on the bolt, loosen before it heat soakes to the bolt so it'll be slightly larger than the bolt and easier to loosen. Just my opinion. Done it only a couple times. Worked both times but not sure if I remember it correctly as it's been years, and taught by my grandpa that taught me everything I know, which passed years ago. Thank you for the videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@michaelpichette4143]

Hope you’re having a wonderful day. I appreciate your work!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much! Hope you're having a great day too.

[@electronicsNmore]

Never heard of using candle wax. What will they tell you next? Beeswax and earwax? LOL Great video as usual Todd!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you! Your metal melter device (great video you made) is awesome. I should have used it instead! Thanks again!

[@electronicsNmore]

You're right, you could've used the metal melter. All you'd have to do is get the nut glowing hot in 15-30 seconds, then loosen it. Keep up the great videos and thumbnails! :-)

[@joels7605]

Don't laugh. In the Southern US all the industrial guys SWEAR by beeswax. They carry around huge blocks of it to melt onto their 3" bolts on huge industrial presses. I had never seen a 5 lbs block of beeswax before.

[@zacharythebeau163]

@@joels7605 I never heard of that despite being in the southern USA, but that being said I could see it maybe working as it doesn't harden like candle wax. That being said I see it more so cleaning the thread which should make it easier to remove still not necessarily break it loose though.

[@satan6660384]

When I worked at a die casting company we only used beeswax to remove stuck parts from dies.

[@leomtb6599]

Great videos man! I really enjoy your product testing and you engine fuel tests. Keep it up!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@kevinbigelow8931]

Enjoy your videos! I appreciate you getting to the main points of your videos and time lapsing which really keeps me entertained and informed.

[@ProjectFarm]

Awesome, thank you!

[@1320gearhead]

When I was at trade school learning to be a mechanic we did engine rebuilding. As part of the teardown process our instructor had us heat the theaded oil galley plugs red hot and use a waxlike product called Door Ease. We pressed the waxy stick directly onto the hot plugs to allow the product to wick into the threads. It seemed to make the plugs easier to remove and I think it did penetrate into the treads. That was nearly 19 years ago and I haven't used the product since then so my memory could be faulty. I did google Door Ease and it is still available. I have seen people try candle wax before but not successfully.

[@TimothyMichaels]

Dripping hot wax on yer nuts will rip the hair clean off. 😲

[@SubaruLove]

Takes some torque also.

[@rantech1907]

Isn't that the method they use in Brazil?

[@TimothyMichaels]

@@rantech1907 👍

[@828enigma6]

You know this how?

[@rogersmith9506]

Now when I worked at a machine shop we had to use oxygen torch to get the bolt /nut cherry red hot then quench with the candle wax. They would break loose every time.

[@rcbif101]

"Rusting Agent" - Can I buy that at Auto-zone? I need to turn my new car into a winter beater.

[@ProjectFarm]

lol!

[@DRNEGOLICIS]

Curious what was used as a rusting agent

[@c130aviator]

Rusting agent where I live contains water.

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

They may tow it but they will never steal it.

[@DeWente69]

Put some salt water in a spray bottle!

[@gregkimura5906]

Another excellent video. I have a tip on heating things with a torch. Try to put the tip of the flame on the object you're heating. The tip of the flame is the hottest part, not the body of the flame. One other thing. Candle was can be dangerous if around an open flame. My better half nearly burned down her parents home when she was a kid. She was cooking candle was on the gas stove and it caught fire. Thanks again for a great video. I love your work!

[@normalbikeguy2658]

An old machinist who worked for my dad used to do this all the time on broken studs on heads and blocks. He told me you have to use paraffin wax, not just any candle. You also have to get the metal very hot before touching the wax to it, like glowing hot, not just a couple hundred degrees. I’ve seen it work dozens of times if you do it right.

[@slimjim7411]

It's because paraffin is basically a candle made from oil byproducts. It's essentially heating up a bolt, and then soaking it in oil. Which will help break it loose, however burning paraffin releases some serious cancer causing agents. Hence why regular store candles are no longer made from the stuff.

[@jasonmefford4312]

Yes sir it does!

[@Lappmogel]

Well the heating trick is all ready proven and its not like applying some wax is going to make it any worse, other then making a mess.

[@josephnichols1435]

The wax does work! I've seen it and done it many times! This is not a good example.

[@ForceBuilt]

Beeswax works very well. It will creep into the threads to lube things up. Never used a regular candle though.

[@mrmidnight32]

The candle has nothing to do with it. It’s the heat, which has been a bolt breaking trick since day 1. But as always thank you for testing it!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point.

[@Mikey-ym6ok]

The heat def help considering heat makes metal expand and loosen up

[@johndeere8724]

Does grease work as engine oil

[@ProjectFarm]

Great test idea!

[@joshsafar]

Corn head grease...it’ll liquify as it heats up

[@johndeere8089]

Nice idea

[@Mudracer41]

I know this may not be exactly "on sublect" since it has nothing to do with wax, but I've always heated the rusted nut, then hit it with Blaster PB. Works almost every time. Great videos. Keep them coming!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback

[@Boodieman72]

How about heat vs penetrating fluid.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great video idea!

[@grimsoul0]

Just need to do it while the nut is still hot.

[@adamdye88]

Great job YOUR videos are always informative shinning the light on the truth again wax on to another test well done.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@benjaminhughes6301]

When I was in school we would use the wax method with pretty good success. However I was never told to use a regular synthetic candle. We used 100% beeswax. I’m not sure if that makes a difference or not but that is the way I was taught, And like I said, it seemed to work. I haven’t used this technique since my college days. Heat usually does the trick by itself.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing!

[@lunarkparkes]

kep doing asthey teached you. forget youtbe, the prupose of wax is not go inside the threads.

[@cwd1232]

Amazing work and very thorough! Always check this channel before buying new stuff! Extremely useful, very happy i found this channel! Thankyou!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Awesome, thank you!

[@piratepete-thetruthisforevery1]

I use a MAP gas torch to heat up stubborn rusty parts to loosen them. Just the heat from this kind of torch works every time. It is much hotter than propane gas. Thumbs up 👍🏻from 🇨🇦eh! 😉

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@piratepete-thetruthisforevery1]

@@ProjectFarm You're very welcome.

[@howard7689]

I use the map gas and wax

[@piratepete-thetruthisforevery1]

@@howard7689 Cool, does it work well at a higher temp?

[@howard7689]

@@piratepete-thetruthisforevery1 I think it helps , the fastener ends up wet with wax

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

Wax on the nuts, Daniel-san. Um...are you hitting on me Mr Miyagi?

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Funny!

[@timwainz]

I was taught that the nuts had to be red hot for this to work also congratulations on 1million

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@wolfkonig246]

@@ProjectFarm wow you really read all comments even on videos that are really old xD you are one legendary KZbinr

[@davidwood2548]

An automotive machinist explained to me how the wax trick works. Heat the broken bolt/stud red hot. Then apply the wax to chill the bolt/stud keeping it only on the stud/bolt as much as possible. How it works is this: The heat from the red hot fastener of course starts to transfer to the surrounding metal (usually cast iron). When the wax changes state from solid to liquid it absorbs a lot of heat thus shrinking the fastener (admittedly only minutely). This expansion/contraction of the fastener in the hole compresses the corrosion in the hole between the two. Thus loosening them. Thank You for your GREAT videos.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

[@Wesshaw1996]

50/50 acetone and dextran Mercon ATF works pretty good

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@neilfroggycrompton2466]

Any atf will work,the mix is 50/50 acetone/atf & its sometimes known as the mechanic's friend. A bicycle mechanic on u tube used to call it "special sauce" btw i dont reccomend u eat any as it is a very dangerous combo ☺

[@mac11380]

The wax would be handy on a new nut/bolt to prevent rust in the first place.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback

[@Senkino5o]

No.

[@OspreyKnight]

I wonder if applying wax to the bolt would prevent rust in the first place. As far as anyone who thinks this works and you just need to add more heat... wax is a fuel and ignites at 249c(about 480f). Adding more heat will only cause it to vaporize and ignite faster.

[@ProjectFarm]

I think you are right. I'll have to test this. Thank you!

[@chrisweston9764]

There's an old method of protecting your vehicle in winter. Mix candle wax with some vaseline (both hot) and spread onto the area's you want protecting. The vaseline gives it some flexibility where candle wax alone would be quite brittle and crack off

[@jamesb1221222]

Yep, in the northern states some car manufacturers wax rust prone areas of vehicles to protect against rust. It's not a penetrant, its a protectant.

[@PearComputingDevices]

@@chrisweston9764 Yup! It's not just an old method, it's the best method for hard to reach areas. Heat it up, brush or drip it on. True, rubber does work better and might last longer but there's plenty of places your not going to be able to reach with it too that will be subject to the same harsh weather. It's also transparent. I use it in door jams every year. Yes, you can use regular wax, but that's not going to be enough protection in the long haul. I rub this wax and vaseline all down the door, door jam and sills. This is how you can protect your rocker panels. Because winters here can be brutal.

[@2009dudeman]

It certainly would protect it, though i'd trust anti-seize more. Perhaps thats another test for Project Farm, wax vs anti-seize (different types) and other home brew protectants, i've even heard of putting a layer of elmers glue on things you want to protect.

[@centscents]

Very nice and informative videos. I am about to remove a very old and rusty water thread (1 inch). It seems that a penetrating oil or propane heat is a better choice. Thanks.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!

[@michelnguyen4819]

Thanks for confirming false hype. I rather do it with WD40 than the candle.

[@davidmiller6010]

Fish oil and mineral spirits never seemed to do much for me. CRC556 worked pretty well. I still have yet to try Seafoam Green. I had never heard of candle wax until this vid.

[@hugoblijham8461]

Nice video 👍

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@morgridterrare1220]

50/50 Acetone / ATF+4 mix is the best thing I've ever tried.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the suggestion

[@billharris3049]

It works better than all store bought products!

[@XH1927]

Add kerosene and mineral spirits and you've got Ed's Red. Not sure if that'd make it any better at loosening stuck bolts, but hey.

[@facereader99]

Your research method could not have been improved. YOU did a good job. Thank you very much!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@280zone]

I think the word is "wick" in not "wicker" in. It appears it does not wick in though.

[@ProjectFarm]

I think you are right! Thank you

[@straight6petrol]

But what if... Oh wait you're trying that too... Telepathic testing methods!

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@sapelesteve]

Agreed & nicely done video! Question: Have you ever done a video about Ethanol vs. Regular gas comparing the supposed separation properties & how each may affect engines? I have seen videos whereby they claim that it's not the Ethanol that's the problem but rather the gas & additives in it (BTEX). I know that the standard is E10 in regular gas & that some people actually use straight E85 to run on. Anyway, thanks for your excellent videos............ :)

[@ProjectFarm]

While I recently published a video on E85 and demonstrated phase separation of the ethanol from fuel when water is added to ethanol-based fuel, I haven't done a test as comprehensive as you've described. Thanks for the video idea!

[@danjohnson4077]

Very good video. I would like to know one additional set of numbers. What would the breaking force if NOTHING had been done?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@jamescannone1425]

i’ve actually had decent luck with wax but I use a Mapp torch and get it real hot. I’m sure the heat does most of the work but I feel like using the wax when the metal has actually expanded due to heat makes it work a little better. I’d love to see some more heat applied and the test re-done

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@brendanguertin1344]

Back on the ship I worked on as an engineer, when disassembling steam line flanges we would use map gas and beeswax on the bolts. It was a trick that many old timers swore by, and worked well for us too. I’m not sure if it was the heat or the beeswax that helped more. Maybe you could try beeswax and see if it’s any different. I believe it’s softer than candle wax so may creep between the threads better when melted.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@bigospig]

I haven't watched yet, but there is ZERO chance this will do anything.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are right. Thank you

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Project Farm I’m sure you’ve seen the comments to use an oxy acetylene torch , heat till it’s red , stick the candle on it until it stops melting. It’s not worked for me though.

[@arlobennett8504]

SPOILER: You're damn right.

[@Will-fr5du]

Hmm, worked for me on my lawnmower blade spindle.

[@79huddy]

It does work used this method on oil galley plugs on engine blocks every day at an engine rebuilding shop need more heat atleast a map torch promise you it works my dad learned the same method years ago in the fifties training to be a Porsche and Volkswagen mechanic aluminum and magnesium don't like to let go of bolts that have been in place for a while

[@Vegaswill714]

Thanks, this video is a public service. Saved me the time and trouble to try candle wax on rusted bolts. My go to has been Liquid Wrench, which helps in my experience but doesn't always do the trick.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Glad it helped!

[@Kratos77227]

Can you test flex glue vs other super glues test wich on is stonger Left a like for you👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@ProjectFarm]

Great test idea!

[@Kratos77227]

@@ProjectFarm so can you do it plz

[@typicalmurican2546]

TylerTube already does that.

[@FrenchValleyAirport]

The candle is to pray to saint mary, does nothing for penetration

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@devintran9884]

Time for a backdoor solution.

[@j.adamwegs2882]

It didn't penetrate because you didn't use a catholic candle

[@dooglemcdoogle4062]

@@j.adamwegs2882 LoL

[@SKANK_HUNT49]

🤣 at 2:58 he said Deez Nuts

[@ProjectFarm]

lol

[@SKANK_HUNT49]

@@ProjectFarm these videos help me a lot thank you

[@JoshStLouis314]

Got 'eem

[@SgtJoeSmith]

Deez nuts for president yo! He's from my home state

[@SgtJoeSmith]

@@SKANK_HUNT49 I have a wife? Cool is she hot? When can I meet her?

[@SOGEOMETRIC]

You can never do a poor job. That’s why you are where you are. You deserve abundance my brother!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the nice comment!

[@johngaltline9933]

Seems there's some folks that really swear by applying more heat then wax. you don't need the wax at that point, since the heat alone will loosen things just fine.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@christophermarshall5765]

Try that with the 4.2 litre Jaguar engine when you can't lift the head!!!

[@1pcfred]

Heat can loosen rusted hardware. If it don't more heat can just burn the garbage off.

[@GHOST22x02]

You had to use a scented candle. PREFERABLY lavender. Then it work

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@GHOST22x02]

@@ProjectFarm have you ever tested drill bits? Like I always hesitate in buying cheap drill bits sets at home depot. Ryobi is so cheap but I always end up getting Milwaukee because I'm scared the drill bit breaks in the metal or wood I'm drilling.

[@nailbatgore]

Yeah, the lavender causes the bolts to relax!

[@HasnainKhan-qn2nf]

Michael Grunger Lmao

[@crushingbass7131]

@@GHOST22x02 I get more breaks from cheaper drill sets but Ryobi isn't as bad as other cheap ones. Their bits hold up surprisingly well.

[@metromechanic7897]

Can you use jet fuel as gas?????

[@ProjectFarm]

Great test idea!

[@TheTirolisto]

Jet fuel is a lot like diesel. In Iraq we ran everything on jp-8. Humvees, trucks, generators, and anything else that would run on diesel we ran on jp-8.

[@jaydunbar7538]

"Broadly speaking, there are three families of motor fuel that you're probably interested in: Diesels, Kerosenes, and Gasolines. The difference between the families mainly has to do with the molecular weight (and thus boiling point / vapor pressure) of the fuel components - in order above from heaviest to lightest. The differences within each family are related to refining, blending, and additives, as well as process controls imposed on the fuel. The Diesel Family In the diesel family we have things like Highway Diesel and the various grades of home heating oil. For transportation purposes these fuels are used in compression-ignition engines ("diesel engines"), where a high temperature and pressure will cause the fuel to ignite and burn, producing power. For other purposes (like heating) we basically light the stuff on fire and are happy it burns. The Kerosene Family The Kerosene family are close cousins of the Diesels, including K-1 and K-2 Kerosene (obviously) and Jet-A. Jet-A is a high-purity kerosene based fuel manufactured under a specific ASTM standard (D1655), with specific physical properties, and is used in jet turbine engines. Fuel not meeting the Jet-A specification is generally recycled in the production chain for other purposes (for example it may be used in blending kerosene for heating, or blended into highway diesel). Jet-A is suited for turbine engines, but can also be burned in other compression-ignition piston engines like diesel can (there are a wide variety of aerodiesel engines available from several manufacturers). Other grades of Kerosene are used for motor fuels, cooking fuel ("camp stove fuel" is typically kerosene) heating, lighting, etc. depending on their refining and purity. The Gasoline Family In the gasoline family we have Avgas, Autogas, and "Gasohol", all designed for use in spark-ignition engines. Aviation Gasoline (Avgas) Avgas actually comes in several grades, all manufactured to an ASTM standard (D910), with specific physical properties and specific permitted and required additives (such as Tetra-Ethyl Lead - TEL). The grade (octane rating) of aviation gasoline is identified by colored dyes added to the blend. The colors used in the US are: Green: AvGas 100 (100/130 Octane) Blue: AvGas 100LL (100/130 Octane) (This was formulated as a replacement for AvGas 100, with half the lead - hence 100LL - Low Lead) Red: AvGas 80 (80/87 Octane) Generally 100LL is the most widely available aviation fuel because it works in the widest range of engines. Autogas (automotive gasoline) Automotive gasoline comes in multiple octane grades, but generally it's all varying blends of "regular" (87 octane) and "premium" (93 octane or higher). Automotive gasoline is manufactured under a different ASTM standard from Aviation gasoline (there are several applicable standards, D4814 is commonly used), which permits different additives including ethanol (usually up to 10%)."

[@jaydunbar7538]

Jet fuel is much better suited to run the heater in your house (if you use fuel oil) then your lawn mower. JP8 is an oddball fuel chosen not because it's good, but because it can be ran in in place of better fuels in aircraft and on the road. It's a logistics solution, 1 fuel is easier to keep in stock then 2. It also has anti corrosion and anti freezing additives. JP8 is however a net loss for fuel economy And performance in diesel engines, I'd imagine it is in the Jets as well but I don't know enough about that side of it to say for certain all I do know is temperatures running it are more of an issue then when they get to run higher grades of fuel. As far as running JP8 in a diesel it also does not have the lubrication properties of diesel so things like fuel pumps are susceptible to failure if used in engines not designed with it's use in mind, this can be countered with adding things like engine oil or atf to the fuel as a lubricant in a pinch, just don't tell the EPA or they will all have an aneurysm

[@daxtonbrown]

But don't do just jp8, do also a 50/50 mix with regular gas @@ProjectFarm

[@rodshop5897]

Once again, I'm confronted with a problem. Someone suggests a solution. I wonder if that solution will work, and find a Project Farm video about it. Amazing, I hope you never stop.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks!