Ford 6.0 PowerStroke Diesel Crank No Start - Troubleshooting & Diagnosis - NOT your typical problem.

[@omgbbqcia911]

A very common issue is the plastic screens on the end of the pick up tube in the tank break off. This results in the truck seeming to run out of fuel when the tank goes below a quarter tank. Fix is to either drop the tank and replace the screen or always keep the truck above a quarter tank. Automedic garage has some good videos covering this issue

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, I've replaced quite a few of them myself.

[@Lonewolf23-26]

That’s why I never let my excursion get below half a tank, also has something to do with that giant fuel tank too. Impressed with how super clean and straight that thing drives though! She isn’t a 7.3 but whoever built that thing put some effort into it!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I've had her since 2004.

[@Lonewolf23-26]

@@ProjectTimeGarage it’s a super nice machine you’ve kept her mint! Aside from running it out of fuel that is 😂

[@briansnik1848]

I enjoyed your vid man. I have 2 6.0's . Aaaaaand a duramax. So I need all the help I can get! Lol... I consider this a win. Nice work man

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Lol, thanks.

[@TheMoparGarage]

Add to the list of the many firsts Brian has accomplished: using “6.0” and “reliable” in the same sentence! 😂

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

LOL, ain't that the truth.

[@workingmansrestorations7071]

I bought my 05 6.0 a few months ago and been working bugs out of it since... changed oil and put hot shots in oil. Conditioner in fuel and cleaned out real good. Today I was cleaning my yard and brought a load to scrap and she started best ever cold. I shut off to empty truck and she wouldn't start back up... ended up hitting it with a small shot of either and she fired up and ran flawless. Drove home and won't restart.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Sounds like it's having issues with hot starting, common issue on the 6.0. Do some research on "6.0 standpipe seal". Same thing happened to mine at about 90k miles

[@normanhouse9046]

I'm glad you figured that out before spending time and money.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Man, you and me both.

[@marshallwhite3780]

Got anything else going on with the V10? You're videos are inspiring me to go and purchase a Volvo 850 to save it from the scrapyard. But I'm loving the content, keep it up!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, more videos coming on the Dodge for sure. Sometimes saving something from the scrapper make a really good project.

[@marshallwhite3780]

@@ProjectTimeGarage it's a 1995 850 turbo with huge potential, going to check it out tomorrow!

[@SilentPrepperFL]

Last month I had a situation that my truck became very hard to start... and it was rough even after it started... for a few mins.. then perfect... Until one day the truck refused to start... no matter what... It was not low gas... Had my F350 Dually towed to a shop... 800 dollars paid the mechanic and all he did was used sea foam fuel injector cleaner... He started the truck and I drove it home. The next day, cold crank and it would not start... The problem ended up being the FICM (Fuel Injection Control Module). Order one online, replaced the FICM myself and its working great again. Over in my area diesel mechanics are rare... or they are so freaking expensive... 800 dollars for sea foam fuel injectors cleaner and diag but he did not tell me was the FICM. Anyway... lessons learned. You drive one of these trucks, KZbin becomes your best school... thanks for the video.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, I'm a graduate of KZbin university on many subjects.

[@tcwhite0104]

Great video I have an 05' F350 6.0 and sometimes it starts immediately sometimes it doesn't mostly difficult to start when it is just been stopped for say 20 minutes. All codes check out well, was wondering if glow plugs....

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I'm thinking high pressure oil pump maybe. Difficulty starting when warm isn't a sign of glow plugs, it's usually a sign of lack of high pressure oil.

[@Mariah7783-g9k]

Been there before lol glad you figured it out

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yeah, I paid my "stupid tax"

[@joeymedley951]

Projecttimegarge I have one no start ficm was had 48 volts fuel going to filter. I replaced PCM because there was no power to cam sensor. Wire still no start

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Is it making high pressure oil?

[@joeymedley951]

@@ProjectTimeGarage someone with a scan tool has it now. He said the ficm is bad.. but the PCM I put on was bad but it is still over there though

[@klaneboy]

@@joeymedley951did you get it back?

[@joeymedley951]

Someone else fixed it. It was the ficm it when under 48 when cranking

[@silvergrizzly316]

I can make ya feel better. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with my 2004 honda foreman so I took it to a good friend (mechanic) 50 miles up the road from me and the first thing he did was take the cap off the gas and said to me, "it hain't got no gas in it"🤦‍♂️😂talk about your slingblade moment🤣 I could've died right there! I hear to this day he still laugh'n...😄

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, happens to all of us.

[@DonavonWilliams-d7h]

I had the same problem lost peddle at a quarter of a tank of fuel, and I’ve added fuel in it. I just checked the fuel bowl and no filter and it was empty inside it primed the key and no fuel came in, do I just put fuel in it and start it up? My first diesel. 03 f450 6.0

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yes, just cycle the key a bunch of times to fill up the fuel filter housing. Also, this is an indication that your truck has a broken fuel pickup inside the tank. EXTREMELY common on these trucks.

[@binary132]

Classic 6.0 problem! 😉

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Really, it's a classic "me" problem, lol.

[@regigilman2255]

How is it that you all always get the easy ones

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Oh, for every easy job I film, there are about 5 more that suck.

[@chunkydipper1285]

What is that wood grain dash on your truck?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Evidently it was an option for the Lariat trucks in 03. It's been there since new.

[@chunkydipper1285]

@@ProjectTimeGarageI’m sorry

[@jeffreypinder9398]

Well done, Sir. Stuff happens.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks!!

[@alexandreforsythe4027]

I was getting this bad noise and sounded like it was from the turbo and I would have to hit the peddle harder for it to go away. The other day I went out to start it and it would then stall out now I’m getting crank no start so I pulled the turbo and it was leaking oil into the air intake but I’m not sure if the bad seals are what’s causing it or not

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I'm guessing turbo seal.

[@j.v.plogan.9546]

Same thing happened to me after changing the fuel filters. Kept priming the fuel pump but still no go. Took off fuel bowl cap and bowl was empty. Had to cucle the key 5 times before any fuel got up to the bowl. Finally filled it up and put the filter back in and it started..lesson learned.. purge out the air after changing out the fuel filters.. .

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

True.

[@overzealousmaverik]

I felt that look 😂 been there done that.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yup

[@billybobs841]

How would it be maken rail pressure if they no fuel in it?

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

The rail pressure you see me reading is actually oil rail pressure. These trucks use a hydraulic actuated injector. It takes really high oil pressure in order to drive the injector pentle down and inject fuel..

[@jeffallen4113]

That was awesome!!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thank you!!

[@trmclaren]

The plastic pickup foot on the bottom of the sender has fell off and broke. You will run out of fuel around 1/4 tank when this happens. Also somtimes the pickup will start sucking little pieces of that plastic foot back up in it starving it of fuel. I fix 5-10 of these a year for this problem. Very common on these trucks.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, I've replaced more than my share of them over the years.

[@marcmmclellan]

I had just under 1/4 tank and it was parked on a slant nose down. She cranked strong and tries to turn over. Added fuel. Nothing. I ordered the bt OBD to use with the app after I let the battery charge…

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

You may have the same issue I did. These trucks are famous for having the fuel pickup tube break off inside the tank. After that, they run out of fuel at about 1/4 tank.

[@arcadiogalindez6407]

Just a heads up even though the video was intuitive..fords have a cone pickup tube in the tank if you run out of fuel before the light is on your pickup has disintegrated and the particles are in your tank and it is being filtered by the pre filter tubes in the tank but they tend to go thru filter and into your system ..you might want to check it out ..by the nice truck …

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks, yeah I've fixed that very issue on 3 or 4 trucks in the past.

[@paggre]

That was fantastic! 😂

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

lol, yep.

[@residentialservicesplus.1049]

Man, I was praying that wasn’t it😢 always verify fuel fire and air

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I guess I'm glad that was the problem. Embarrassing, but that's how it goes.

[@codybose515]

The fuel plastic pick up on the sending unit probably recently broke off thus not allowing to suck fuel from the very bottom. Either pull tank and fix it or just not run it low from now on 😂

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, that's exactly my thoughts too.

[@georgesrisomsak9650]

Was hoping someone said this in the comments. My 03 7.3 has a broken pickup foot, and runs out of fuel at the same spot on the gauge. A bit before the light comes on. I don't drive it much since acquiring an 04 6.0, but if ya get in there, the hutch and harpoon mad is a must. Diesel tech Ron has excellent videos explaining the procedures and reasoning behind the mods. Highly recommend to watch those here on YT.

[@justindaniel5087]

I just replaced the IPR valve on my 2007 6.0 and it’s still not starting it’s doing a crank no start and the part was damaged all injectors click

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Check your high pressure oil while cranking. If it's not making enough oil pressure it won't start.

[@justindaniel5087]

I’ll do that thank you 🙏🏻

[@jessicalee8968]

Do you have one for 7.3 😢

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

I do not, but the principal is exactly the same

[@georgesrisomsak9650]

A mechanic's perspective... (For the readers, I know you know all this already) The fuel side of the injectors have plungers, and being dry fired will score the barrels and pistons within those barrels causing a loss of injection pressure, and ultimately efficiency and power. The pump also is being driven dry, which, is bad for it, as the brushes within the pump motor are cooled and lubricated with the doesel fuel. Extended run time dry will kill the pump. I always try and fill when I get near 1/4 tank to maybe 1/8 tank at the minimum. I try and treat it like 1/4 is empty. Your pump and injectors will thank you, as well as your walllet. Especially the wallet! That usually makes the wife happy, and as well all know, we have enough $ wrapped up in these things to go spending good chunks of it needlessly. Also, he's running out of fuel now, where as before he could run the tank clear down. The reason is, there is a little shower head looking pickup foot that has cracked or broken for the fuel pickup in the tenk at the bottom. These trucks are aged, and aging further. It's a very common problem these days. Word has it, some of the fuel additives used today are also accelerating the deterioration of the plastic further. Diesel tech Ron has videos on the "harpoon" and "hutch" mods, the reason behind them, and awesome videos on exactly how to diy. Go check those out. Anyway, badass video as always bud! 👍 Make sure fuel pressure stays above 45-50 lbs wot on a hard road test. You'll need a "closed course" for this. 😜 Get the blue spring mod done, or.... Use a plain ol bb on top of the factory spring to increase pressure similar to the Ford update kit. Works fine either way. Aftermarket shiny anodized is cool too. Whatever floats your boat. They all pretty much work the same, keeping minimum pressure higher, which will extend longevity of the injectors. That'll keep them injectors happy brochacho. For the 6.0 haters, they can be very reliable. Even when abused like this. I see tons of hard working high mile 6.0's that still get work done while giving incredible value for the capabilities. This aint an exception..

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Thanks for the info!!

[@jimmyflint6153]

Whenever u open the fuel system on these fords diesels. U should prime the system at least 10 times before starting. I work on fleet vehicles and all I do is work on ford 6.7s and Cummins 6.7s all day

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

How are you priming them?

[@jimmyflint6153]

@@ProjectTimeGarage cycle the ignition on and you will hear the system priming. Do this a minimum of 10 times. If still no start . Check fuel water separator to be sure it’s tight and not over tightened.

[@ryanyager7]

ba ha ha.. glad you got it fixed

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

lol, I'm good at fixing problems that I create.

[@jaytee4720]

happens to the best of us lol

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep!

[@mattvanatti4628]

If only they were all that simple of a fix...

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

So true....

[@davidward1834]

BRO.....GRASSYASS....!

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

LOL.

[@chrisrogers8694]

what does your shirt read

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

It says Save The Dipsticks. I have them on my storefront here on KZbin. Check 'em out!

[@thinkford]

Well thats hard on your injectors

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep. Moral of the story? Don't run out of fuel.

[@MikeHolland-w5r]

That’s why it’s called an idiot light

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Fair.

[@jeffmoran5973]

I have seen this one more once.😅

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Sadly, so have I.

[@NCCountryBoy]

As Diesel Creek says you are just paying your stupid tax lol

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yep, I've paid my fair share too.

[@armandomaldonado1559]

You gotta have fourteen hundred pounds

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

They need just over 400 pounds to start. They idle at just about 500. Same for the 7.3 engine.

[@kencornett4768]

You can't depend on an idiot light Caitlin is not supposed to let a diesel run below a quarter of a tank my big truck I used to drive over the road machine my fuel gauge going down toward the quarterback tank I was looking for the closest truck stop leaving double quarter of a tank with about 150 gallons I still went in a and build that sucker don't depend on those lights man call Fay don't work half the time

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yeah, it bit me big time. I have nearly 20 operable vehicles currently and have owned way over 100 and in my 50 years, this is the first time it's happened. I'm still ahead.

[@chrisrogers8694]

they are out of stock right now

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yeah, I've had a few people tell me they're out of stock. Basically any ELM327 Compatible OBD2 dongle will work

[@alcozar30]

I’m trying to figure out how this helped anybody. 😮

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Well, I have a lot of regular viewers to this channel. Many come here regularly just to see what I'm up to. I post a lot of random stuff and they appear to like it

[@binary132]

It helped me have a chuckle and waste 13 minutes. :)

[@russellaustin4988]

That noise is you ruining your injectors by cranking it with no fuel.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Right. Thanks. So how do you suggest getting fuel through those injectors? This is a HEUI injection system, you can't just bleed the pump or crack the lines.

[@russellaustin4988]

@@ProjectTimeGarage I could hear that you had no fuel when you were cranking. I work on these for a living and my skin almost crawled listening. There is an electric fuel pump. Make sure you have proper fuel, then run the pump through 6 key cycles and start the truck. The high pressure system will hammer the injectors to death with out fuel. Listen for the loud clacking. That is dry injectors getting beat.

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

@@russellaustin4988 agree 100% but what you didn't see on video was the dozens of key cycles. Short of cycling the key over and over, not sure what else one can do.

[@russellaustin4988]

@@ProjectTimeGarage You didn't show putting fuel in your tank before cranking it either. You showed getting it started and driving it to the fuel station. Guess I just didn't understand. They never slow start like that for me, even after doing head gaskets.

[@workingmansrestorations7071]

Better not put gas in there

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Yeah, I kept saying gas. LOL

[@jamespatton2975]

Waste of my time !

[@ProjectTimeGarage]

Wow, I'll give you a full refund then.