ProMaster City Van Conversion

[@mannymadevan]

man, wish I saw you video sooner when I put my solar panel on top of my Promaster City. I’d never thought to use magnets. Instead, I used eternabond tape and now I need to take it off. It’s going to be such a hassle to. Kudos to the awesome build. Absolutely love the pull out stove idea and map panels.

[@StaticCamperVan]

Very awesome build! You not only have a great vision for your van, you have done some excellent work. 👍🏼

[@royking2498]

Very nice and your all set with your magnets if you need to move to a newer van down the road. I found that adding a passenger side window was a must for driving visibility. It's easy and you can pop the window for extra ventilation.

[@lindahopson5003]

Who did you get to install the passenger side window? I have a 2018 Promaster City and desperately need to add that side window on the door but haven't a clue what kind of business to go to for that service. The dealership said they don't do that.

[@YabadabadooMrMagoo]

Spectacular! I have the same van and I was searching for a simple but light weight design and I believe yours is the best so far. It doesn’t appear cluttered or claustrophobic, Good work!

[@geokite]

Thanks!

[@GuruBoards]

I'd really love to see more of how you did your bed. I love you work, great van build!

[@i3jjbx518]

One of the best vans I’ve ever seen nice job 👍

[@SweetiePieTweety]

Nice! I like the simplicity of your ideas. Very thoughtful design for your application.

[@geokite]

Thanks!

[@deanaoxo]

Well sir, i see i must step up my game, and with so little time before our next meeting. Great job Steve, just fantastic, and thank you so much for all the links.

[@flpirate45]

I think that you did a super job on your van,I just love it . You gave me a lot of new ideas. Thanks

[@geokite]

Thanks!

[@alphadan3420]

Superb idea minimising screwing into the body of the van and the innovative use of magnets/ lightweight corrugated plastic instead of plywood boards .

[@geokite]

I first tried the ceiling with thin plywood held by the size magnet I had. No way. Not a chance.

[@texasoutlook60]

Awesome, this is exactly what I want !! Not interested in living in it but would like to do some traveling. Nice build and thanks for sharing!

[@12vLife]

I drive a converted PMC and love it.. thanks to upgrades in my electrical I can run powerful vent fan overnight, can cook on electric and keep meat, milk and cheese near frozen for days. However, I think the manufactures in this small cargo segment (Ram, Ford and Nissan) are completely missing a HUGE opportunity that would have given them a MASSIVE edge over everybody. If Toyota was in this small cargo segment they would own it... why? Cause I think they would have had the sense to understand that a hybrid cargo van priced at just $5k more would outsell the coemption on three new distinct but IMPORTANT and highly desired features: 1. 45mpg combined 2. Overnight climate control while parked and engine is off. 3. 12v and 110v power options while parked and off using the full battery pack. Any who bought a van for conversion would spend 5k more with their eyes closed for these upgrades.

[@12vLife]

@firstname lastname Hard to say that and take an honest look at the 2020 Rav 4 Hybrid SUV that will do 45mpg and come in around 30k...

[@12vLife]

@firstname lastname but I've heard major improvements in mpg between 19 and 20. And Toyota has been improving Prius forever and clearly will leverage that work elsewhere I would think. Anyways other than Nissan's work outside the US, no other small van even testing hybrid or EV so they are way ahead. Ford threating a PHEV van next year.

[@artsteadman2230]

Restaurant Supply stores are great for stainless steel salad bowls for sinks - then simply drill a hole for the drain

[@aghauler1964]

Very nice work and great workmanship, Im a trucker by trade and noticed your solar panel magnets as the same that i use for holding flags and signs, I have notice they rust horribly and have found wrapping them in heat shrink industrial wire tubing helps and it prevents scratches. Thanks again for sharing.

[@geokite]

Thanks! I coated them with Plastic Dip (from spray can) to prevent scratches. So far so good, but they don't get touched much.

[@geebonzo]

I have a PMC. I don't want to outfit it just as a camper, so everything big has to fold or roll up, or fit in a duffle. I haven't figured out a vent system. You seem to have vents on the front doors. I haven't found any in stores. There seem to be some for the 2015, but not my 2017. I guess those vents for the roof would work. I like the idea of magnets for the solar panel. I have a flex panel and considered that 3m high bond tape. The magnets would be more flexible. Maybe i could put the magnets on with VHB and try to get a bit of ventilation, at least on the sides. The ceiling is really nice. I have Thinsulate on the ceiling, but not covered yet. The Thinsulate really made the van much quieter going down the road. Thanks for sharing. I really like the PMC van just for daily stuff and moving things, so I'm not super motivated to set it up for camping, yet. I like your design.

[@geokite]

Thanks for the comments. I think you are referring to the wind/rain deflectors; I got those on ebay, but they are now on amazon, www.amazon.com/2015-2017-Promaster-Mopar-Guards-82214346/dp/B07584JZ53 One issue with using VHB tape for the solar panel is that you are relying on the paint to hold the panel on. The paint might be just fine, but I have seen reports of paint adhesion failing and panels coming off. If I didn't have the height requirement or the need for space on the rack, I would have put in a standard 14" vent. But the more I think about it, having two vents is really nice, and not having to roll the front windows down is also nice. I usually have the privacy curtain up, so there would have to be a break in the curtain for front windows to be a source of air.

[@taradead]

Looks very well done and inviting. Like the use of magnets for cupboard doors...gives me an idea to maybe get a tabletop to stick to the wall when not in use (my build is in very beginning stages).

[@Harleyglide03]

Flat out brilliant. This says it all.

[@gus473]

👍 Some great ideas in this handsome, practical build! You're probably in the running for K&J Magnet's "Customer of the Year" too! (Good guys!) ✌️😎🤙

[@geokite]

They are! Great selection, got so many magnets from them for projects besides this one.

[@mastersmoosh9496]

Dang very nice. Love your attention to small details.

[@raysills]

Very nice build... and even though you do not live in it full time.... you could! Great idea in using magnets to hold things. And, thanks for listing all the items you show in the video. Well done.

[@rose8662]

Very clever and easily changed if your needs change. Like it a lot!!!

[@ohmercy5924]

When I saw the circuit board I almost passed out! 71 year old woman starting to plan a PT van life- life. I can do a lot of stuff but that looked scary! Lol. The magnets are genius. I love the maps. What are the cabinets and “doors” made of? The panels are great are they made from office module panels? So many great little innovative, clever ideas. Thanks for sharing.

[@geokite]

Thanks! Cabinets are made from 1/4" ply wood, with slightly countersunk holes for the washers (to attach to the magnets)

[@billmacfarland3200]

Love the solar setup. Thank you for sharing.

[@asakim6717]

Can you show the bed slats in action?

[@psalmsurfer1]

How does the Thinsulate attach to the van walls? Adhesive backing?

[@deannabourassa7518]

HI there... can you tell me what roof rack you used? I have the exact van and am looking to put roof storage up... I also have the same solar panels. Thanks so much...

[@geokite]

@deannabourassa7518 the brand is Rola. I'm not sure it's still available. The solar panel died after about 3 years. I went to a portable one that I can deploy when parked for more than a day. Otherwise the car charges the battery just fine as I drive

[@leegoodman8553]

Way to think outside the box. No pun intended. Well done!

[@crippyandkaatje]

Excellent, thanks for the inspiration and explanations. I'll be looking into magnets for sure and like the flexible, thin solar panels. The Ikea slats are great and more flexible so better for your backs. I may use the handpump faucet for the first few years. Still in the design phase, but I'd like to save money.

[@kborgstedt]

I like the build. Love the magnets! What did you use under the blue fabric/carpet on the walls? Flexible? Did you use magnets or rivets? I'm searching for ideas near the doors that are uneven.

[@garygoldsmith9844]

Thinking of adding a rack to mine, do you know the overall height with the rack? Thanks!

[@ThePlanet_L.I.]

Now that's simplicity at it best i dig it 👍🏾gr8 build 👍🏾

[@geokite]

Thank you!

[@MichaelGreen-d6u]

Awesome!!!....I really liked how clean and thorough this was 👍....I am just now researching my first build....I think u live in Arizona....I live in Florida and am trying to research whether or not to insulate my van....any advise you could give???....I am brand new to this and don't know where to start

[@planetmikeus]

Can you describe (photos if possible) the removal of the gps antenna casing up top in the back of the van?

[@geokite]

Looking at the antenna now, it appears that it is held on by a single bolt from the underside of the van. So I accessed that bolt by removing the rear inside light. I remember that light being kinda hard to get off, with lots of fear of scraping the paint. But sure to push in, with your plastic tool, on either end of the light to depress the clip.

[@brianmi40]

Keep an eye on the solar panel, I'm seeing complaints that the flexible ones start to delaminate... I'm also looking to use the US Cargo quick adjustable track system. In my case, I want to configure TWO bed heights, one for seating and sleeping like yours when SOLO, but also an ability to raise it about 10" to allow another camper (brother) to sleep with legs extended under the bed. So the under bed storage for me will have to be plastic storage that can be put on the countertop, or vehicle seats to clear under the bed for the lower sleeper's legs. The two sleepers would be head to toe, and sort of criss-crossed into an X formation when sleeping, so that the floor sleeper just has legs under the bed and pretty much their waist to head out in the clear by the side door so that they don't feel claustrophobic, and have enough clearance to roll over without hitting a knee on the bed from underneath. A piano hinge wiill fold out for the upper sleeper in the bed platform, to make just the head to waist portion of the bed reach full width over to the countertops across the aisle when sleeping and get support there when in the upper position. Probably hard to imagine, but it makes the "upper bearth" trapezoid shaped, with the narrow end down at the feet... I tried to come up with every possible configuration that would sleep 2 in such a compact van, and this was the only way I could get there without trying to sleep midgets, or making someone claustrophobic! Also planning to do a Floetrol Countertop like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZzae4Sbo76Ymac

[@jeffwagg]

I also have the Vanair Ventline vents, and I leave them open nearly all the time, even while driving in the rain. I've never seen a drop come though.

[@geokite]

I've been parked with them up all the way during rain and felt water splash on the handle. YMMV

[@karinhart489]

Are you able to make it so the front passenger seat can swivel around facing bed so there is another seat for rainy day sitting?

[@geokite]

No, not currently. But there is a guy in England that does custom van conversions and he mentioned something about a swivel seat mount coming out. Don't know what the time scale is, his shop is urban campers, facebook.com/UR13ANC/

[@popatop75]

like the magnet ideas whats the longest period of time on your trip? you think your buid for 45 days. i'm thinking i want extended road trips thanks lots of info be safe

[@ryanzimmerman3020]

Nice build, do you have a link to the slats for the bed you used?

[@geokite]

www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00160215/

[@jojorazor3136]

Thank you for all of your info. I think I have read through all of the comments here, have gone through your build thread and photos to make sure that I wasn't asking a question that you have already answered. I really love many many aspects of your van. I have two questions for now. I am getting ready to do the subfloor like the way you did yours. I want to know what the tool was that you used to undo the bolts on the floor? And was it hard to do? I assume you had to get under the van because they have a nut? Any info you can provide I will be grateful. And, I read that the solar panels basically deteriorated. But I think I saw you say that you don't even know if they helped that much and that you mostly lived off the battery station? I am questioning whether to buy a Jackery (or something similar) with the portable panels rather than put a panel on the roof. Would love to hear about your experience regarding how you feel now about your use of the roof solar panels. Thank you for any info you can offer. Also, I noticed how clean your van floor was so I assumed you primered it with something like Rust-Oleum.

[@michaelbruchas6663]

Nice small build. You learn by doing.

[@geokite]

Sure do! Thanks!

[@jasneskis]

What kind of glue do you use to hold your magnets. Mine always come loose. I have tried numerous kinds of glue and even epoxies. They eventually come loose.

[@andydufresne8113]

jasneskis Why would you need glue? Is the roof aluminum or something other than steel? Sounds odd to have to glue magnets to a van. Especially if they are rare earth magnets. Those things have bawlz. Using glue on anything exterior of a vehicle sounds like a rediculous idea. That being said, if you must use an adhesive and want it to last, I would use the same polyurethane adhesive That Is used to secure your windshield to the body. I know from personal experience that shit is legit! Side note, this vid is playing while I'm typing and I'm digging this dudes obsessive use of magnets. I approve! Magnets are so awesome for everything! Also, Josh...my brother from another mother, may I have this van when you're done, bro? I'm rebounding from a midlife, rock bottom crisis and currently living in a 2016 Corrolla S that's lease will be up soon. You're obviously doing ok. You would probably do well on the tax break for the charitable donation. I'm working but not stacking much just yet. I refuse to pin myself down with an apartment anymore. I'm 43, no kids, no girl, no family. Starting over. I'm sure nobody is going to give me anything, that was 80% joke, 15% hope, 4%, wishing and 1% must be left over dope. I'm willing to work for it. 22years as a machinist, son of an automotive mechanic, bartender, snowboard coach, motorsports photographer, AMA Supermoto Championship Winner (motorcycles) and being awesome at everything I have ever done... excluding my recent less than optimum decision making that has me in this period of transition. If you have the ability to employ and a potential use for anything in my skillset, let's make a deal. Start the bidding at 1yr slavery in trade for the lil house on wheels with its own magnetic field. Are we close to an agreement? Lmk. Thanks! If name dropping helps at all, I have a pretty tight relationship with my girl, Karma. She will take good care of you. That's a fact, Jack! - Ryan aka HoBo_FoSho aka Ryno aka CorrollaSeatTester.

[@gregoryjohnson5495]

Great conversion , well thought out and organised. I love your use of space and how you prioritized your needs. I am trying to put together a weekender van and I also want to leave room for a mountain bike. I live in a hot climate and don't think I will insulate. What made you go with thinsulate? Using magnets is a novel approach, especially if you want to reconstruct the van. Great presentation, keep us updated on your travels. Thanks.

[@geokite]

Thanks for the comments! The only serious contender for insulation is something like the foam you can get in different thicknesses at home depot (forgot the name). But I was worried it would squeak in the walls, and it isn't very good for tight spaces, around corners, stuffing. I've read/seen horror stories with the spray in foam. Thinsulate just seemed like the best choice, while expensive. I also live in a hot climate and most trips are in the summer, but so far it has worked out good. I find I need a lighter sleeping bag in the van :)

[@blackwhite9177]

Wow Man U r amazing, well done, I will definitely use some of ur ideas. Thanks for sharing

[@Leatherkid01]

i would reposition that bar over the solar panel... so it dont cast a shadow... or reposition the panel if possible. That shadow may reduce panel charging. Just a thought

[@geokite]

Understood, but while it worked (the panel has since died) it did a great job keeping the battery topped off for my minimal usage needs.

[@Leatherkid01]

@@geokite sorry to hear that. i heard those flex panels are quite sensitive when flexed for some funny reason 🤔

[@jasneskis]

Can't find information about stove in your drop down info. Link went to wrong website. Please send that info. Thanks.

[@geokite]

www.rei.com/product/831565/snow-peak-li-baja-burner-camp-stove

[@mysave67]

How much tinsulate did you use? Ty

[@VanOnTrack]

Do the magnets also hold when you drive fast? Is there wind noise on the solar module during fast driving?

[@geokite]

Yes, the magnets hold the panel great at speed. 16k miles so far, mostly at highway speeds. The only wind noise I hear is from the side window wind deflectors; funny, right?

[@VanOnTrack]

geokite thanks for that

[@David-rx2to]

Very nice clean design. Love the use of magnets everywhere. I'm 6'4"...what are the dimensions from the back of the seats to the rear door? Can I build a bed back there to fit me? Thank you, I subbed.

[@geokite]

With the passenger seat all the way back, at a 'normal' angle, the distance to the rear doors is 6'6" at a height of 12" off the floor. And if you wanted a bit more room the seat could be moved forward some. But I think a bigger issue is the height when sitting on the bed. I'm 5'8", and at the seat height of 12" (plus some foam) I'm right at the ceiling (ceiling is about 1.25" lower than the metal skin of the roof). So with my setup, to sit upright, you will need the bed to be no higher than about 4" off the floor. Hopefully sitting upright is not a priority to you...

[@billmclaughlin5375]

Nice work. Could you provide a little more detail on the mounting of the solar panel? Did you adhere the magnets to the roof and use a washer of some kind with a screw to secure the panel?

[@geokite]

The order of 'stuff' from inside to the top: Magnet, roof, counter-sunk magnet with bolt extending up, panel, fender washer, nut, nylock nut. I've had to reposition the panel once. I pry up each magnet and place a small piece of 1/4" foam under. Each magnet is done this way, then the entire panel can be lifted off without scratching the paint. The panel is placed back in the same manner.

[@nancymartinez1410]

Did you take the seats out that fold down?

[@DW-BR549]

Very nice, thanks for sharing.

[@annetteyoutube742]

Great idea: attaching cabinet doors with magnets. Allows for a thinner cover, thus saving weight.

[@geokite]

Thank you!

[@proteus5]

The interior dimensions of the Promaster City and the LWB Transit Connect are about the same. Any particular reason you went with the PC?

[@katehare4970]

If I remember correctly, the PC may have a little better road clearance.

[@geokite]

Mainly space, as the PMC is a bit bigger. And fuel economy, I"m getting 29mpg on the highway with a box on top.

[@biscuitninja]

How has the transmission been working?

[@geokite]

No issues. The van has about 16k on it so far, so it is early.

[@lizzy2shoes557]

Fantastic build! Without reading all the specs at their website, I'm curious to know the strength of the magnets? Especially with the solar panel..Galeforce winds??

[@geokite]

Before trusting the magnets, I went to the trouble of connecting a small camera to video the solar panel at high speed. No movement. Many trips, it ain't moving. 20lbs per magnet, and the leading edge has three, and the panel is cutting the wind on edge.

[@brianmi40]

Wow, lovin' the map covering and the custom "torn" labels, NICE! Harbor Freight has an awesome 18650 flashlight they run on sale for $20, it has a light bar, that bends at the midpoint, and has a magnetic base... works great, and have a few spare 18650s so it never runs out! Damn clever making the sleeping bag into a rolled pillow! You never explained the circle stains on the roof - leftovers from the solar panel being magneted down in another location???

[@geokite]

Oh yea. Those stains are magnetic dust sticking to the magnets that hold the ceiling panel up.

[@nicruiz90]

I've watched this video multiple times while building out my PMC. Would you mind sharing more info on your control panel board? Or if you have resources you used while building it, would be appreciated.

[@geokite]

Basically just a bunch of toggle switches. A couple are double toggles, which allow me to switch the power to different items, or to reverse the power to the fans. I had to find help for the latter, www.robotroom.com/DPDT-Bidirectional-Motor-Switch.html . I hardly ever use the current measurement display, mainly for curiosity. Matter of fact, I hardly ever look at the battery level on the GoalZero...it is entirely possible that the solar panel wasn't even needed..

[@gianttravelsbyvan9670]

I cover my wiring and entire PMC conversion, including a Shou Sugi Ban ceiling:

[@honda636hp]

How much the fome in akia? And the bed

[@adrianvega835]

Hello! I wanted to ask what height you were and if you are able to sit up fully on the seat. I'm 6'2 and looking to buy a van but cant seem to figure out which one to get because I want to make sure I am able to sit upright without being uncomfortable. Thanks for the awesome vid. Cheers!

[@geokite]

I'm 5'8", and with the thin foam pad I can JUST sit upright and not touch the ceiling. My ceiling is about 1.25"down from the metal. The seat is 12" in height

[@lindasue8719]

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but are your systems (fans, etc) all ultimately wired into the Goal Zero? If so, can you give a summary of how that is done?

[@geokite]

Goal zero goes to a fuse panel (Blue Sea System brand), similar to what the power company wires go to for a residence. Then each item (fan, usb ports, lights, etc) connect off that with a switch completing the circuit.

[@DoggyU]

Great video! Do you have a link to the ikea bed you used?

[@geokite]

I used the MINNESUND mattress, www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30315876/ And I ended up putting a 1/2" thick piece of closed cell foam under that, all in the covers. Great for sitting, but not great for sleeping. I have to use air mattresses to sleep on, which is quite a bummer.

[@aerostone99]

Wondering if you were ever able to get a thermostat control board working for the fans (so they turn on after a certain temp and off below set temp). Also, which control circuit did you try? Thanks!

[@geokite]

I tried for a hot minute (pun intended), then gave up. Having to open/close/open the vents when parked just didn't seem worth it. Even for long periods of time I can just leave the fans running all day and not worry about running the battery down, so thermostat really isn't needed. No, I don't remember what board I got.

[@12vLife]

Nice work. I like your minimalist approach! Congrats! I missed it, did you make those blue panels? made templates first? please tell me about their construction? melamine board? what for padding? stapled on back side? held with magnets? They came out great and seeing this has changed my mind on hard panels. And with soft panels you can always pull up oem corners and bite them down for nicer finishes. Thank You! Are both fans pushing air in? what diameter did you have to drill for the fans? I'm looking at the Promaster City as well and thinking about ventilation from the ground, but it's always so dirty under the van. I have a 6 inch drill bit that works great on sheet metal and have tested some really cheap low amp draw (.25a) USB fans that push good air quietly and seem to run forever of a 100ah battery) I find that a good car battery (my truck has one with 140 ah reserve) will run two fans like those for 2 nights without even starting your engine once and when you start the engine for 15 minutes it seems to replenish the battery to full strength. I have a 1200w inverter right over my battery that runs a small 700 w microwave or stovetop while the car is running.. so I find no need (at least for me) to do solar which simplifies the build exponentially.

[@geokite]

Thanks!! Blue panels, all 8 now (back of seats (new), side doors, walls, back doors) are made with 1/4' plywood (bit thinner IIRC) with automotive fabric adhered on with 3M Spray High Strength 90 (got at Home depot). Templates were made first, poster board, transfered to plywood. Back of plywood is painted to seal, no padding, fabric wraps around edges and glued on back. Those on the back door are the only ones held with magnets, all the others are held in place with screws/T-nuts. Back of seat ones have strapping that goes around the seat, and these hold shoes and pockets to come. Fans are configurable for push/pull, but the speed control is for both. Hole diameter, um, bit over 6 inches IIRC. Still makes me squirm thinking of that day of cutting...

[@videovedo36]

Very neat work, I liked it a lot.

[@geokite]

Thanks!

[@stephaniesturgeon5591]

What was that u said about north & south for ceiling magnets ?

[@geokite]

The magnets on the underside of the roof that help with the solar panel are oriented one way, then the magnets that hold the ceiling up go the other way. Otherwise when the ceiling is put in place it would attract to the solar panel magnets.

[@djjouano]

Cool. How many inches width opening of the trunk?

[@geokite]

Just a bit over 48 inches

[@Jrprez22]

Get netting from a fabric store and add either Velcro or magnets. Easier than the zippers of a tent, imo.

[@geokite]

But bug netting I ended up cutting a large piece from ripstopbytheroll (0.9oz Noseeum) and using magnets to secure it around the back opening. Not super convenient, but it allows great ventilation without bugs.

[@wylieberry6949]

Nice job. I just bought a 2018, which I am just starting on. I see a black fan attached to the handle on one of the Van Air vent fans. Is that how you can pull air in? I don’t believe that a Van Air will pull air in when rotational direction is reversed. I am wondering how well A 6” Van Air would work installed in a sliding door, since it wouldn’t stick out very far.

[@nightknight2820]

How much u paid for the 2018?

[@geokite]

The 6" Van Air do pull air in when reversed. Not much, but it's something. The black fan you see is what I use to distribute heat from the Mini-buddy heater, or for just general air movement. Hadn't thought of installing the Van Airs horizontally.

[@LedLass]

And what are the dimensions of the bed?

[@liciachiappori9990]

it's very wonderfull, elegant and essential!

[@geokite]

Thank you!

[@jeslib.4573]

@geokite I’ve had my promaster for 7 months, bought initially to camp in it. I’ve watched every conversion of the promaster on KZbin and yours is definitely my favorite. Do you have the dimensions for the furniture you built in there? Would you be willing to share if so? I basically want to recreate you van almost to a T! Great work! Thanks for sharing. Cheers.

[@gianttravelsbyvan9670]

I'm starting a new channel converting a ProMaster City if interested... kzbin.info/door/YlR2t3yTZ8Z2cScBTQEZbg?view_as=subscriber

[@JJ-gc8du]

Wow...nice video. Q1: can you estimate the weight you added to the van with the conversion? and Q2: now that you're on the road, how is the little engine performing?

[@geokite]

If I had to estimate it, I would say no more than 200lbs. But that is a guess. So far so good with the engine, no issues at 16k miles.

[@carlaifera5254]

......waited/hoping to see a zoom-out with the camera, so could see layout and design of living space......can't fathom why men assume people are most interested in drawer content, wires, etc......the way a living space is designed is what is most interesting......to me, anyway.......you have a nice van......safe travels......:)

[@katehare4970]

There are some zoom outs if you watch to the end.

[@geokite]

I'm considering shooting an overview video with a fish eye, so I can be inside and you will get the wide view.

[@47UrsaeMajoris]

Excellent build! Do you carry your kites and buggies/boards on the roof? Or can it fit inside? What mpg do you get with your gear on the roof?

[@geokite]

Rear axle of the buggy goes on a cargo carrier, and the front wheel goes right above the center brake light (tied off to the ends of the roof rack). Kites (ram air kites, not those with bladders) go in cargo box on the roof. With a box on top, I've gotten 29 when maxing out at 65mph on the highway.

[@williamryan7403]

It's a nice setup ,but do you really need all the wiring and electrical if it's just a get away van? I see people doing builds and they have all sorts of electrical gadgets that seem pointless for van dwelling.You can charge most items with the 12 volt system.

[@geokite]

Thanks. Electrical needs depend on how long you are going to be parked at one location, and how often in the past one has needed a jump start :)

[@justmona9647]

Nice layout and it seems comfortable for two people, even if it's only for the weekend. My only question is where is the restroom?🙄 Since I'm certain you can't hold it all😏. Thanks for showing me how to extend the shelf over into the cab lb👍

[@dafringe]

Have you taken your rig to the mountains? If so, does it have enough power and the right gearing to handle the steeper grades without max speed dropping down to barely a crawl like the Ford Transit Connect?

[@geokite]

I have, and haven't found it a problem. Steepest grade I've driven is to Onion Valley from Independence, and Tioga Rd. from Lee Vining. It was a crawl to Onion, but not bad to the entrance of Yosemite.

[@dafringe]

@@geokite Thank you!

[@bradscott5293]

Real nice job....

[@notcharles]

Where did you get THINSULATE?

[@geokite]

I got mine from Hein at Impact Products.

[@robertbidochon7949]

+geokite where can I find the same wind deflectors please? cheers

[@geokite]

I think I got them on ebay, but mopar has them moparonlineparts.com/promaster-city-deflectors-p-7162.html

[@robertbidochon7949]

+geokite thank you ♥

[@chadwrobel789]

What brand is the roof rack?

[@rickgeller6043]

"ROLA" (rolaproducts.com). He's too busy flying kites to answer a simple question. Plus the brand name is clearly visible at 1:41.

[@jeremyfowler6227]

Very nicely done conversion! Did you fabricate the Snow Peak Baja slider or did you buy it like that? Thanks

[@geokite]

Thanks! The tray for the Baja was made specifically for it, using angled aluminum from HD and some screws and nuts.

[@Petelaosound]

Nice was looking at one today gave me an idea 💡

[@johnny1556]

That's what I'm talking about very simple and unique but I wonder how hard was it getting the wiring done do you have some knowledge about that and the solar panel and the idea of the cabinets did you have some kind of diagram or that's top of your head.

[@geokite]

Thanks for the comments. The wiring itself wasn't that hard. Probably the hardest part was just thinking ahead for what I wanted to do in the future, and putting the wiring in for that. I originally planned to only have one vent. So the wire for the second vent came from a wire I was going to use for a speaker. Now, I only have one extra wire (for that other speaker I did not install). Wish I had two still. As for the switch panel; that took some time to learn how to wire up a two-way switch. One diagram I found was incorrect. Once you see how it works inside, it is easier. I had used counter sunk magnets before, so I had some idea that they could be used to adhere the solar panel. The front of the cabinets just kinda came together. But I did plan out the size and placement of the battery, stove, and water tanks. Finding water tanks that fit between the edge of the cabinet and the wheel well was the key.

[@oldgringo66]

I love magnets. There’s always a time when maintenance is needed. But coordinating the magnets holding the solar panel makes my brain hurt, LOL

[@geokite]

More than once I had to use a compass to ID the north or south end of the magnet, so the magnets in the ceiling panel didn't attract to the magnets for the solar panels. I have a 3D magnet that I used to ID the exact locations of the top solar panel magnet, before adding the bottom solar panel magnet. That reminds me, I have added a link to description to build pictures in a build thread I posted.

[@andrewconway7730]

Nice build. Can you turn the front passenger seat into a swivel seat? That would open up the van a lot more for you.

[@geokite]

Wish! There is a builder in the UK that might have one available in the future. Urban Campers, facebook.com/UR13ANC/

[@gianttravelsbyvan9670]

The ProMaster City has a center console that would need to be removed, and possibly move the parking brake mechanism to do that. I just started my PMC conversion if interested: kzbin.info/door/YlR2t3yTZ8Z2cScBTQEZbg?view_as=subscriber

[@mxlevi8266]

Anyone else notice he said first video and he has a video 11 years ago

[@VanOnTrack]

Your expansion is really good too. Many Greetings from Berlin ;-)

[@andydufresne8113]

Sven Mammach That's what she said.

[@caseyzak24]

Hey there thanks for making this video, you've got a really nice clean design! I've built out a 2017 PMC and I tried magnets but never found them strong enough for my purposes. I'm psyched to try out your magnets/approach for future improvements! Could you give a bit more detail about your front window screens and where the magnets for it attach? Maybe a picture? We tried to do something similar but found all the available metal surfaces were at weird angles. Would be great to get those working. Thanks again!

[@geokite]

I never got around to adding front window screens, but I did make up some front window insulation panels for the winter. The side window ones have short lengths of strapping that attach (with small magnets) to the metal above the glass. The windshield has lengthwise stiffeners, so it is more like a typical window shade. I removed the rear view mirror, and the center of the insulation can be magnetically attached to the mount for the removed mirror.

[@pab10100]

Very nice love it budget friendly

[@snowbird29803]

Good job and great video. Who makes the roof racks and how are they installed? Those that are optional eq. are about $500! I'm looking to buy the "wagon" with 2nd row seating and opening windows.

[@geokite]

Rola, out of Australia. Got them on etrailer. They simply attach with one bolt per side, into pre-existing threads in the roof. Fairly easy.

[@ernieD]

I'm looking at the wagon w/ bench pass. seat too. Will be used to haul my bass gear/PA gear. Just minor mods for me. Pup hauler to dog park on other days. I'm now in a '15 Toy Highlander-LE. Like the lower load in and sliding doors. Did u buy yours yet mate? Howdy from TX.

[@YabadabadooMrMagoo]

I have the same make and model pro master. I like your simple design and will attempt to replicate it. Have you made any changes/ or improvements since making this video? If so can you make an updated video?

[@geokite]

The only changes have been panels to the back of the seats for holding shoes and such. And the solar panel died recently; don't know if I'm going to replace it with another flexible one, a 'normal' panel, or a portable one for when I'm parked for extended periods (seems that is the only time I really need it)

[@0150r]

Great build!

[@johnellebaker3725]

love your roof racks where did you get them?

[@geokite]

etrailer.com They are ok; I wish they extended out a bit further so a bike rack could go on the outside portion. The square base bolt that goes into the slot on top are only available from an ebay shop in the UK, www.ebay.com/itm/T-Track-Pieces-x4-t-Bolts-Roof-Rack-Rails-Crossbar-Cross-Bar-Van-4x4-/132255558437?hash=item1ecb0bab25 Rola, who makes the racks, was unwilling to piece together a set of 6 end caps with the same keyed lock.

[@dirgesinthedark5637]

Full pan would be nice. Step back more to close

[@the_luminary]

Wait, so u said that magnets hold the solar panel down, but it looks like its screwed on?

[@geokite]

The solar panel is bolted to the counter sunk magnets, and those stick to the roof. And not just to thin sheet metal, there is another magnet on the underside.

[@the_luminary]

@@geokite hm.. So you added magnets not for quick release convenience but as an extra security incase the bolts give out?

[@geokite]

@@the_luminary the strength of the magnet depends on how thick the metal is, and the metal isn't very thick up there. The magnet on the bottom is just there to add thickness.

[@kenshaw7496]

Brilliant !!!

[@jantrapnell01able]

Great job!!!

[@stephenolaughlin6595]

Nice build. That size cargo van was my original inspiration. I’m ready for a bigger one now though. What’s ur mpg? Thanks for the informative video. Love the magnets.

[@geokite]

I'm getting about 29mpg on the highway, 65-70mph, with a box on top.

[@stanw909]

You're the second guy I've watched in a row who has the main entrance on the street side of the vehicle . This will open to your neighbors campsite and to the street/highway when parked along the ocean . I've heard that stealth camping people worry that they might get hurt if rear ended while sleeping overnight on a city street . Is that why you chose this floor plan ? All that being said . Nice van !

[@geokite]

Actually entry can be from both sides, though the drivers side is easier. Cabinet on left side was chosen due to 12V outlet (that charges my battery when driving) is on the left side, and the cabinet conceals this wire (and I didn't have to run the wire under or over the living area). So far the layout has worked out fine, but the issues you mention are good ones.

[@taradead]

I considered this layout because I'm tall and, to make the bed space longer, could leave the passenger seat farther forward all the time. However, ended up with standard layout because my 8 ft surfbord would only fit inside with the passenger seat folded down. Remembering to adjust the drivers seat every night is only a slight hassle.