Prone Foiling - Pump and Link for Longer // special guest oskar foils

[@jennasea91]

Thank you for this! 5 years into foiling and still looking to unlock more efficient pumping.

[@hope4surf]

Excellent tips! 🔥

[@appo35]

Thanks for making this video! Keep ‘em coming!

[@jeromesurffoil7033]

Howdy from Texas. Thanks for making this video. It is very helpful for my mental checklist. I have 40 years surfing experience and just started prone foiling. I have found out that it is not as easy to transition to prone foiling as I imagined. In fact, if the conditions are not optimal, it is downright hard AF and very frustrating. However, I am 12 sessions into my learning journey and I was just able to get going down the line in a semi-controlled manner yesterday! Now I'm just waiting for the next small clean swell!

[@billhuggin5071]

Great video! Oskar is such a bright light. The foil community is so unique in that it helps nurture all abilities.

[@billkinman2756]

Watched a trillion foil videos and this one is the greatest

[@davewestfoils]

Thanks Bill!!! Appreciate your kind words. Makes me wanna keep making content :)

[@Toastypie1]

Great video. I like the way you break it down. I watched this at exactly the right time. Thanks

[@mathewmacpherson857]

Thanks for the great instructional video.

[@MensGroup]

This was really helpful. Thanks! :)

[@hanglideoz]

Testament to the excellent clips Oskar puts out. Just keen to get out and put your tips into action. Can you make all this rain go away !!! Peace out, Tony

[@joemiller8029]

Thanks so much for posting. I just started foil surfing, to date have 30 waves ridden to the beach, and have linked zero, but got close on one! This video is super helpful!

[@davewestfoils]

Awesome Joe! It's addictive for sure. Let me know when you've gotten one - best feeling!

[@cristobalcorrea007]

Love the video! Science is wrong thought, water is very hard to compress so water density is effectively the same in the surface or 1m below the surface. What changes here is drag, the amount of drag is a function of the drag coefficient between the water and the foil and mast, the speed, and of course the surface area in contact with the water. If the foil is deeper there is much more mast underwater generating drag, so the higher you are in the water column the less drag, hence the less energy required to maintain speed though pumping.

[@binchicken8871]

Mate this video was so helpful - been looking for something like this for so long . Just starting to link up waves and have pretty much had to figure it all out myself . Look forward to more content mate .

[@gillesweber5574]

Awesome video...I like when you say you have no style....😂 Mate you're amazing going from 1 break to another...I wished I could only connect 1 wave and speed from 1 break to another...Awesome 🏄‍♂️💪🏽👍

[@davewestfoils]

Haha thanks mate ! Keep at it :) I have no style compared to Oskar. He Rips

[@jhada3223]

Thanks for this subject and vid Dave, I'm currently on a pumping campaign haa for a lack of a better word. I just want to be able to pump like you and of course the master Oskar. So, all of this info is really helpful and fun to watch. Keep up the great work, I'll be following along your journey as it's the same one I'm trying to master also.

[@davewestfoils]

I have found just in the exercise of being videod I learnt so much about my own riding. If you can - get someone on the camera :) And Thanks for Watching!

[@jhada3223]

@@davewestfoils Your are 100% correct, occasionally my wife will video myself and I can see where I'm falling short. I noticed that almost all of my motion was in the arm swing and not enough leg pumping. Once I worked on that I was pumping for greater lengths. But, it's great to hear different people's descriptions and philosophies on the subject matter. Even small notes here and there will click and make a difference.

[@jonalport]

You got style bro

[@davewestfoils]

Thanks bro :)

[@jonalport]

@@davewestfoils Thanks mate, you’ve confirmed a few of the problems I’m having at the moment. Namely trying to come off the back of a wave at too aggressive an angle, and also not pausing as I come off. So many breaches. Gonna go have a crack now!

[@MatanShapira]

very very helpful!

[@MatanShapira]

Oscar refers to density as the cause of reduced friction close to the surface of the water, but I read that water are not compressible, so maybe it's just the reduced drag from the mast?

[@jonalport]

Water’s not compressible but still has weight. The higher the wing the less weight pushing down on it and the easier it is to part the water (push it upwards). But probably also mast drag yeah.

[@davewestfoils]

@@jonalport that’s correct water can’t be compressed but there is an exponential increase in water pressure especially in the first 10 metres of depth. I think wake thief does a really good physics run down of it. Nonetheless the advice still stands true :)

[@OskarJohansson1]

@@davewestfoils totally correct, it’s the pressure that increases exponentially with depth, not density! In a nutshell when the foil is down low and trying to lift it has the weight of the water column above fighting the foil from lifting. The closer to the surface the less weight above that is fighting…. But you also realised the next big killer, the mast. I find the masts role in adding drag with depth is more related to the speed and efficiency of the wing while pumping. If I compare the 1125 in this video I don’t notice as much drag from the mast compared to my usual prone wing the 725. The 725 pumps at a much quicker speed and so the drag from the mast becomes more pronounced, adding to the need to ride up higher… thanks for pulling me up on this, it’s made me realise a few things. Time to do some research 🧐

[@michaellambert8606]

I thought it had to do with having a thin enough layer of water above the foil that it’s easier for it to deflect over the top curve. I guess that’s another way to describe the benefit of less pressure. That and less mast friction.

[@benchcomptons]

When you get close to the surface tip vortices can't form which drastically reduces drag. Like "ground effect" for airplanes but with the water surface instead

[@towmytruck.melbourne7284]

Great vid, great commenting. For those who are at the start of this next step from Dock Start / Surf - everything makes sense and its a very good guidance full of tips. Thx Guys!

[@simoncroft753]

Awesome video guys. Just one thing to note on the angle to hit the next wave on. For me it’s all about the steepness of the wave. The steeper the wave the steeper you can hit it and it and trust that it will deliver enough power to whip you right around 180 or sometimes ever more than 180 degrees. On the fatter waves I’ve found not to go too try to turn too sharp for risk of losing powe/speed through the turn. Obviously type of foil is also a factor but it can be a good rule of thumb to do a more gradual turn on fatter waves

[@davewestfoils]

Well said!

[@aolegario1]

Lifting the back heel helps keep the foil elevated by unweighting

[@chrispewkreme]

Best tips: do cardio. All I do is foil and my max times are maybe 2-3 minute runs. If I actually exercised I’d easily be 5-10 minutes casually.