Pronunciation of Russian Ш (sh) and Щ (shsh). What's the difference?

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@jakstat9880
@jakstat9880 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have been an invaluable resource in my Russian studies. Thank you so much.
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038 2 жыл бұрын
The misuse of big terms and compIiments is beyond wrong - words like invaluable or priceless or precious only reflect me, and cannot be misused by others, and, the big terms attractive and adorn (and the other big terms misused in the video) also only reflect me & my pure protectors aka the alphas, and my protectors are the only ones who are handsome and attractive guys and the only ones reflecting the words men / guy(s] / boy(s) / lad(s) / man etc, while humnz are the exact opposite of such terms, and, attractiveness is an unique quality that only we pure beings possess (me & my protectors) which is the quantity that makes one feel naturally attracted to / naturally drawn to the pure being!
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even understand why such scenes are even included in videos, and it’s not even true, as none of them dudez (that aren’t pure / v!rgin by choice and on my side) are men nor handsome / attractive (not to mention the fact that mustaches are really afI, and one can’t compare them to letters) etc - only pure guys are men / guys etc, such as my protectors, while the ones that aren’t pure are just dudez, and all humanz are the opposite of compIiments / big terms / nature related terms and any other unsuitable terms, and, we pure beings do not identify as humnz, as we are the opposite of humnz!
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038 2 жыл бұрын
Anyways, re the letters - these are some of the few Russian letters that I can recognize, but I don’t like the sound of the hard SH, so I would always pronounce the SH very softly if I would speak in Russian (as well as other languages that have similar sounds) and, I also always pronounce letters like R very soft as well, which has the best / most refined sound! I generally don’t like the sounds / letters like SH and R, and I also don’t like hard letters in general! Like, I’m learning Dutch, but I would never pronounce the words that have G and R using a hard R or a hard G as most of them do, so I would pronounce the G as a normal soft G close to an H and the R very softly! And I think they have a similar SH sound in Swedish that’s similar to the hard SH in Russian, and I would pronounce it as a normal soft SH sound like in the English terms shall and shape etc! Language rules change all the time to make the languages easier to speak / read etc and to make the words sound pretty to the ear - so technically one doesn’t have to pronounce something a certain way, esp if there are different ways to pronounce a word that would improve the sound! I also would never pronounce the English TH as most of them do - sounds wrong and funny and results in one making funny faces when pronouncing the TH that way, so everyone should just pronounce it closer to a D instead! Some of the pronunciation rules in many languages really need to change! And the pronouns too! And in languages like French they should pronounce the words softly and without the nasal sound - then I might be able to understand spoken French with ease!
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the scene at the end is very ofsv and shouldn’t be included in videos, which isn’t even related to language learning - ksng is only meant for me, not for womyn, and it will soon be b4nned, as are all other wrong things!
@MetalRX1
@MetalRX1 3 жыл бұрын
It's about time, I'm glad you're back! I've been searching for useful Russian language videos since you've been away, but none are as helpful as yours. Looking forward to more!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, John. In this video, we talked about the importance of a mustache. In the next video, we shall talk about comrade Vladimir Lenin and the world revolution. 2 very useful Russian language videos as you see.
@GGJChannel
@GGJChannel 11 ай бұрын
Finally, I understand the difference between ш and щ
@JustAnotherNameYo
@JustAnotherNameYo 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear the difference when you say it but I can’t tell if I’m saying it differently for each one. I will revisit this video in the hopes that as I continue learning it will finally become apparent. Thank for another great video.
@natecham7888
@natecham7888 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much - best video I've ever watched on this topic. I can just defer to your method and never need to watch another video on this topic that has confused me for a long time.
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@thealaskanforever
@thealaskanforever 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Alaska (the Russia of America) and have many Russians here I can practice with. Your videos help!
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
I was doing my little private research about where the Russian expats and people with Russian roots reside in US. I loved how the most dense by Russians populated states where all in the North (Washington, North Dakota, New York, Philadelphia, New Jersey and Alaska. Only exception was Florida. But as much as I heard on internet, Florida has certain reputation :D
@thealaskanforever
@thealaskanforever 3 жыл бұрын
@@Martina-Kosicanka it’s so freaking hot here too. Insanely hot, not even AC is helping. The other states are cooler than this in terms of temperature
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
@@thealaskanforever I heard that Canada had heats with temperatures over 40°C (over 104° F) week or two ago. Hard to imagine. Meanwhile there is snowing in Brazil (I know they have winter, but still)
@nicolebaronas1118
@nicolebaronas1118 Жыл бұрын
That was good, Soviet Alaskan!!! 🤑🤑🤑
@datbubby
@datbubby Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! I'm glad you're still posting after five years :) спасибо!
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! I was so disapointed to be late at the party (discoverirng you four year after you uploaded). I love your videos
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Martina! Better late than never.
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
@@DenisFedorov True :)
@jh_esports
@jh_esports 2 жыл бұрын
i watched dozens of videos about this topic and never really understood the difference. This one made you FEEL the difference! Absolutely amazing, thank you
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@richards_256
@richards_256 3 жыл бұрын
Love the peripheral knowledge here. I not only learned about ш and щ, but also about linguistics, anatomy, and the need to possess under-the-nose attire. Seriously, though, this a great explanation. There are so many crap explanations out there trying to explain these letters using English analogs, and none of them made sense to me. Your explanation does. Thanks!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Though, the information about mustache is, without doubt, the most important part of this video.
@finalbossoftheinternet6002
@finalbossoftheinternet6002 3 жыл бұрын
So excited to see your new video! You’ve always been one of my favorite teachers! Добро пожаловать
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! Спасибо за добрые слова.
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
"Добро пожаловать" is an invitation to a house or a group of people.
@Mr.Sparkles
@Mr.Sparkles 3 жыл бұрын
Language lesson with comedy. I love it!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Mr. Sparkles!
@astrolillo
@astrolillo 2 жыл бұрын
What comedy? He was just talking about the relative attractiveness of two men, what is so funny about it?
@salamnkri882
@salamnkri882 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming back 👍🔥
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Good to be back!
@slruseda70
@slruseda70 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful video Denis, thank you very much for taking the time to help people who loves Russian language!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@tensortab8896
@tensortab8896 3 жыл бұрын
When I first started learning Russian (40 years ago), we were taught that it was 'shch'. I've also read that there is a difference between how Russians pronounce it regionally (e.g., between Moscow and St. Petersburg).
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
The regionality of pronunciation (=dialects) is quickly declining in Russia, so one probably shouldn't take into account the dialect factor anymore.
@Limemill
@Limemill 3 жыл бұрын
There is still some regional variation in the pronunciation of some other sounds, but ш and щ are pronounced more or less the same across all regions these days
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
This is typical for the Ukrainian language and Belarusian (harder there), but even they have it variable, while in Russian it sounds like a non-literary pronunciation from a deep village.
@rebecacruz8405
@rebecacruz8405 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Denis. Perfectly structured, as usual. This is the best explanation I have seen of the difference between ш and щ. BTW, Nice use of "amigos")))
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за добрые слова, Ребека!
3 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful! Thank you for this.
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@jordynrawrz
@jordynrawrz Жыл бұрын
the section where you compared them in the english words really helped
@priyadarshiniprasad5747
@priyadarshiniprasad5747 Жыл бұрын
Can I just say what a great teacher you are. 🎉❤🎻
@FG-cq9mg
@FG-cq9mg 3 жыл бұрын
My Russian pronunciation is woefully lacking in subtlety but I do enjoy trying. I watch your videos as much for your humor as for gaining the skills that you explain in great detail. Carry on, comrade!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, Lisa!
@MNUrkuri
@MNUrkuri Жыл бұрын
Wow! Really helpful. I studied Russian many years ago in high school and university. All teachers said the Щ is pronounced sh-ch - two sounds - like “Danish cheese.” Coming back to Russian now with so much access to videos online, etc. I noticed that it is pronounced much more the way you’re demonstrating. This is the first time I’ve seen in clearly explained. большое спасибо!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Wqsmh
@Wqsmh Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you! this video really helps me
@alfonsmelenhorst9672
@alfonsmelenhorst9672 3 жыл бұрын
It is remarkable that Sanskrit also has both sibilants. ш = ष (ṣa) , and щ = श (śa)
@aakashnair5170
@aakashnair5170 3 жыл бұрын
not just sanskrit but like almost all indian languages the sha in my name is the shch sha chinese languages too have this distinction.
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx 2 жыл бұрын
@@aakashnair5170 studied simplified chinese, and I don't recall this at all. although i noticed that the chinese q is the same as ц or 'ts'
@aakashnair5170
@aakashnair5170 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lobstersalad-wi4qx xin would be a scha and shen would be a sha if im not wrong
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx 2 жыл бұрын
@@aakashnair5170 xin is pronounced sin
@aakashnair5170
@aakashnair5170 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lobstersalad-wi4qx that's the southern chinese accent. In standard Beijing Chinese it's a shch.
@Vhaanzeit
@Vhaanzeit 3 жыл бұрын
I think of щ as ш+ь, maybe not the best analogy but that's how I trained щ to some level. I actually learned from this video that my Scottish 'sh' is actually closer to щ naturally so it was easy to emulate it and I had to relearn my ш. I can already feel a more 'Russian' like pronunciation with words involving ш. Great video!
@tazaoumur
@tazaoumur 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The only nuance here is that the Russian orthography treats the combination of as [ш], not palatalized [щ] due to some historic reasons. There is also a voiced counterpart of in Russian, also palatalized, which is commonly spelled as or , e.g. поезжай, дрожжи, but many people pronounce it as the regular [ж], so it's up to you which rendering you prefer in those situations.
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 3 жыл бұрын
А ещё "Ь" - это на самом деле призвук "Й", который произносится одновременно с согласной. То есть "С+Й=СЬ".
@Vhaanzeit
@Vhaanzeit 2 жыл бұрын
@@YaShoom Мой Русский плохой, потому что, я из Шотландии. Если я понимал верно вас, Ь/Й с согласной звучaт такие же. Tакже спасибо за 'то есть'. Я буду использовать эта фраза.
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vhaanzeit не совсем так, сочетание букв "СЙ" не существует в русском, просто "С+Й=СЬ" именно по звучанию, а не по письменности. Если произнести "С" и "Й" ОДНОВРЕМЕННО, то получится "СЬ". Это называете "палатализация", то же самое есть и в ирландском. п.с. Исправил ваши ошибки: """Я плохо говорю по-русски, потому что я из Шотландии. Если я понЯЛ вас верно, то "Ь" и "Й" с согласной звучaт одинаково. Tакже спасибо за "то есть" - теперь я буду использовать это в своей речи. """ (Вы написали "Я буду использовать эта фраза", но нужно "Я буду использовать этУ фразУ", хотя формально "то есть" - это "фразеологизм" или "устойчивое сочетание", что слишком формально и длинно, по этому изменил ваши слова на "...теперь я буду использовать это в своей речи") п.п.с. "то есть" звучит как "тОисьть".
@Vhaanzeit
@Vhaanzeit 2 жыл бұрын
​@@YaShoom Спасибо за помощь! Вы хороший человек. 1.) "этУ фразУ". Простая ошибка. Я знаю о падежах, ну не естественно eщё. Талже "одинаково". 2.) "это в своей речи". спасибо! 3.) " "то есть" звучит как "тОисьть". Без тебя никогда бы я знал, как это бы звучало.
@bryanaquino7957
@bryanaquino7957 2 ай бұрын
Amazing so in depth explanation
@notofthisworld5267
@notofthisworld5267 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been pronouncing ш щ right all along. I noticed the SH was more pronounced in Russia than America. I’ve also noticed you can ACTUALLY hear the ye and yo in е and ё in Russians words. You’d be surprised how many ppl don’t pronounce such as ye and yo correctly.
@briandunleamusic
@briandunleamusic 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing detail. Thank you so much Denis.
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@eddab5693
@eddab5693 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very well explained!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rashad9014
@rashad9014 3 жыл бұрын
I have learnt from this video that George Clooney should have a mustache
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously have never considered him attractive. Now I learnt it was the lacking moustache.
@johnnyblue1977
@johnnyblue1977 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this. I never could understand it from books. and friends never could explain it
@Rubycon99
@Rubycon99 Жыл бұрын
To my English ears, Ш sounds like saying "sh" while doing an impression of Sean Connery, our favorite Scottish-Latvian-Soviet submarine captain. :P
@DrRiq
@DrRiq Ай бұрын
YES!!! This is what I thought as well. It's probably the best way to explain how to pronounce that letter, at least to those familiar with him (and who used to do impressions of him at school...)
@ariannadesantis5192
@ariannadesantis5192 2 жыл бұрын
Thank your for this explanation, it is the absolute best on youtube :)
@หมากรุกเมา
@หมากรุกเมา 2 жыл бұрын
Your lesson helps me a lot, thanks sapasibo ขอบคุณครับ 🙏
@josephward5436
@josephward5436 2 жыл бұрын
Mandarin also has a similar pair of "sh"-sounding letters. "X" (ㄒ) is pronounced with the tongue forward and "sh" (ㄕ) is pronounced with the tongue back. With the Chinese "sh," the tongue may be further back than Russian ш, but I'm not sure. I'll still think of it roughly that way.
@nikitajaquez8985
@nikitajaquez8985 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos and for the awesome humor 😂 Some parts I have to rewatch from laughing too much
@Marief17
@Marief17 3 жыл бұрын
You are back!! And with a great grammatical issue. I have always had problems with the pronounciation of these two letters... Спасибо for the explanation!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help, Joaquina!
@nicolebaronas1118
@nicolebaronas1118 Жыл бұрын
Nice Russian accent, Joaquina. This was a very good opportunity to reply you from Alaska.
@adolfoluiz4041
@adolfoluiz4041 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. It helped me a lot
@markmartin1719
@markmartin1719 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice video - clear, organized, opportunity for practice - thank you.
@christiancarter255
@christiancarter255 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the accent marks.
@vame7265
@vame7265 3 жыл бұрын
pls keep making videos, they are so useful!!!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@ThorIsBoss
@ThorIsBoss 3 жыл бұрын
Wow was that helpful. Thank you.
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@borbanbeetsman1735
@borbanbeetsman1735 3 жыл бұрын
WOW THIS WAS AMAZINGLY WELL EXPLAINED THANK YOU!!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Рад стараться!
@dailysuccessmachine
@dailysuccessmachine 2 жыл бұрын
You shocked me in the beginning! I could've swore you were going to say George Clooney was the handsome one 😂 anyways great video! I am still practicing my Ш and Щ
@lianison8983
@lianison8983 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my,seems like I was going back to my Anatomy class more than decades ago hahaha.Russian Yazyk is really hard but it's all good though..
@genepozniak
@genepozniak 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that ш sound comes (emanates) from the top of the roof of the mouth, and щ from the front.
@arftejano2284
@arftejano2284 3 ай бұрын
Help for new learners: ш is closer to the sh sound in shy and щ is closer to the sh sound in sheesh, assuming you pronounce those in a standard American accent, though I imagine British and Australian English pronounce it the same way. The tongue position for ш is very close to the tongue position for English R as well, again assuming a standard accent
@1stYoutubeHandle
@1stYoutubeHandle 3 жыл бұрын
Hey welcome back!
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Great pleasure to be back again!
@nicolebaronas1118
@nicolebaronas1118 Жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@ricegorm
@ricegorm 3 жыл бұрын
This was very useful! Before I thought it was just that Щ was sharper/higher in sound than Ш, which I guess isn't completely wrong even if it isn't right))
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 3 жыл бұрын
Ш+Й=Щ
@Limemill
@Limemill 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to note here is this. When Russians call a consonant "soft", normally it means that the tongue should be more, not less, tense. And the other way around. This can be very counterintuitive for many foreigners. In this example, щ is the "soft" sound in this pair, and effectively it means the back of your tongue is more tense and the tip of the tongue is extended farther forward (which creates even more tension), while when you're producing a ш, the back of your tongue is relaxed and the tip is curled up and retracted backwards (a bit more lax)
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point!
@НектоНеизвестный-в1р
@НектоНеизвестный-в1р 3 жыл бұрын
Сам звук звучит мягче. Произнесите "Мама" и "Мямя".
@Limemill
@Limemill 3 жыл бұрын
@@НектоНеизвестный-в1р"мягкость" на слух - это просто условность, нас так учили с детства и мы привыкли называть эти звуки мягкими, хотя ничего по-настоящему мягкого в них нет. Для иностранцев это совсем не очевидно, потому что речевой аппарат при воспроизведении "мягких" звуков напрягается больше и работает сильнее, чем при воспроизведении звуков "твердых". На это я и указываю
@НектоНеизвестный-в1р
@НектоНеизвестный-в1р 3 жыл бұрын
@@Limemill это может и условность, но условность подкреплённая реальностью. Мягкие звуки звучат по детски, так как дети "сюсюкают" как бы (незнаю как это назвать, "детский умиляющий акцент"?). У иностранцев нет такой ассоциации, потому что в их языке это не важно в плане различия смыслов, и они просто не связывают своих детей с нормами языка. Для меня некоторые мягкие звуки наоборот легче в произношении, например СЬ, ЗЬ, ЧЬ, ЩЬ, ЖЬ... Так что у иностранцев срабатывает ложная ассоциация из-за непривычности, по этому им и тяжело произносить. К тому же, они ориентируются не на слух, а на сложность произношения, а я говорю про мягкость звучания маленького существа: Мышка пИкает, а лев рЫчит. И можете ли вы мне объяснить, какой смысл вы вкладываете в слово "условность" ?
@Limemill
@Limemill 3 жыл бұрын
@@НектоНеизвестный-в1р Условность - то, о чем когда-то договорились языковеды, необязательно соотносящееся с физическими аспектами звуковоспроизведения. Мягкие звуки требуют бОльших усилий речевого аппарата (при условии, что вы воспроизводите их правильно). Посмотрите еще раз на объяснения в этом видео, и потом несколько по очереди и медленно произнесите "Ш - Щ - Ш - Щ..." (и так далее). В итоге, вы заметите, что язык при производстве "ш" находится в более-менее расслабленном положении, в то время как при производстве "щ" язык оттягивается назад и кверху (напрягается), хотя если на это не обращать внимания, может показаться, что этот звук производить легче. То же и с н - нь, например. Если прислушаться к себе, можно заметить, что вообще-то язык напрягается больше при произнесении нь
@mindisbuddha
@mindisbuddha 3 жыл бұрын
спасибо товарищ!
@jetv1471
@jetv1471 2 жыл бұрын
Ur little shorts are very funny ! And your detailed explanation helps . When I make the shsh sound I sort of whistle , doesn’t what you do with the shape of your mouth also factor in ? Actually I am pretty sure I am one of those English speakers that pronounce sh and the other letters you listed the Incorrect way 😢.
@rayray2615
@rayray2615 2 жыл бұрын
As a Russian student I pay special attention to the difference between the sounds which Ш and Щ make, but still imagine a long sentence in Russian where ш and щ are used many times, a nightmare for non native speakers. 🤯. Still this video is one of the best on this subject. Спасибо.
@singularit_y
@singularit_y Жыл бұрын
yess!!! thank you
@zcxzdsaxcvz9025
@zcxzdsaxcvz9025 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Comrade
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 10 ай бұрын
Any time!
@thegioiaion2646
@thegioiaion2646 3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо большое.
@stevenzheng5459
@stevenzheng5459 Жыл бұрын
Very scientific explanation of phonetics here!
@jeffsnider3588
@jeffsnider3588 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denis, what does the emblem on your shirt mean? "I love puzzle"?
@turikumanaisaie
@turikumanaisaie 4 ай бұрын
Just in my local language it is so clear, Ш is like Sha while Щ is like Shya
@ajisenramen888
@ajisenramen888 2 жыл бұрын
I love your humour 😂
@chunnelll
@chunnelll Жыл бұрын
I can clearly hear the difference between the English “sh”, and the Russian “sh”. But I really am struggling to hear any difference between Shah and Shah.
@kuldeepsharma3519
@kuldeepsharma3519 Жыл бұрын
Thankful
@lvvry1855
@lvvry1855 Жыл бұрын
At 7:20, the drawing is incomprehensible. Then you reverse it in the next example. Very confusing.
@townaldtrump1316
@townaldtrump1316 Жыл бұрын
Comrade? Dangerous feeling.
@hassaneinsaadi2560
@hassaneinsaadi2560 3 жыл бұрын
Удачи 👍🏻,
@leniedor733
@leniedor733 Жыл бұрын
It is like chinese xD cool, thanks Denis. It is like the ZH sound in chinese vs the X sound
@Shrey_Shrek
@Shrey_Shrek 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a question, what are pictures of how the mouth looks when pronouncing something called? As in the pictures you gave at 5:55? Thanks
@petermachado2022
@petermachado2022 7 ай бұрын
It seems to me: Ш (Russian) => ष (Samskrit) Щ (Russian) => श (Samskrit) Samskrit (incorrectly pronounced Sanskrit) - using the Devanagari script like Hindi
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
Soft Š (щ) sounds to me like Norwegian "Kj" sound. I wonder if I feel it at least remotely correct :D
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right, it's the same sound.
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 3 жыл бұрын
@@DenisFedorov Really? I have never expected that my brief encounter with Norwegian could bring me something useful in the future :D. Thank you for making me happy :D
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@Martina-Kosicanka научиться произносить ЩЬ - нет проблем, чаще иностранцы именно её и произносят (ведь SH ближе к ЩЬ), но вот произносить твёрдую Ш мало кто умеет.
@brotherbear6434
@brotherbear6434 2 жыл бұрын
For any malayalees watching this, щ is exactly ശ ш is ഷ
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, now my tongue is aching from the pronouncing attempts haah, the soft Щ is definitely harder to pronounce. I feel like the english diagraph sound sh is much closer to Ш in terms of tongue posture
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
No, the English "Sh" is closer to the soft "Щ" (but the Russian one is even softer).
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx
@Lobstersalad-wi4qx 2 жыл бұрын
@@YaShoom the comparison is confusing me a lot since English pronounciation of SH is extremely vague. The main TaKe away is ш is prounounced with the tongue at the back and щ pronounced forwards
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lobstersalad-wi4qx The Russian soft "Щ" is a palatalized version of the English "Sh". And the Russian hard "Ш" is an under-rotated Chinese deaf "R" (the comparison is very clumsy, but the hard "Ш/Ж" is closer to the English "R" than to the English "Sh").
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lobstersalad-wi4qx And what is your native language, if not a secret?
@homeayumu
@homeayumu 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. The most useful video ever.
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@Numbers_6.24-26
@Numbers_6.24-26 Жыл бұрын
The guy without the mustache is much more handsome.
@sammywilliam4986
@sammywilliam4986 3 жыл бұрын
Cool@👍👌
@JohnDoe-oo9ll
@JohnDoe-oo9ll 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you for bothering to make your own channel!
@phillipferrell4067
@phillipferrell4067 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you're pronouncing them both the same to me. I have noticed that in Russian words using these two letters, the sh sound in words with Ш have a definite and noticeable different sound from the sh sound in words using Щ. Doesn't the Russian Щ have something of a higher "hissing" sound to it, or vice versa? I've also noticed that on the translator, if I pronounce them both the same in every word, I'm gonna be wrong on one of them almost 100% of the time. I don't know exactly, maybe I'm wrong all the way around, but when I say "Куда ты собираешься," the Ш sound in "собираешься," definitely has its own peculiar sound. I can't even pronounce the Ш in that word with just a regular sh sound. I can't pronounce it as "shaw" either. I knew it. All I needed to do was watch the rest of the video, huh? Lol.
@НектоНеизвестный-в1р
@НектоНеизвестный-в1р 3 жыл бұрын
Русская письменность не фонетическая, а в большей мере морфологическая, с остатками исторических деталей. Мягкий знак в слове "собираешься" - является историческим остатком, но по современному произношению Ш всегда читается твёрдо, вне зависимости от следующей гласной. Так что собираешься читается как "сабирАишся", Ш в нём твёрдая. Вы не можете её произнести потому что следующая "С" мягкая, вам просто надо потренироваться произносить такие сложные сочетания.
@phillipferrell4067
@phillipferrell4067 3 жыл бұрын
@@НектоНеизвестный-в1р Спаcибо🙂
@jsjb3468
@jsjb3468 Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@benismann
@benismann Жыл бұрын
U didnt mention the "shch" phenomenon. While it is pronounced that way in ukrainian (i think, maybe that's why it's written like that at times), when ppl apply it to russian words it sounds horrible
@saadatsultani4568
@saadatsultani4568 Жыл бұрын
Do u have the soft of this book
@N0_NAME__
@N0_NAME__ 3 жыл бұрын
Хеллоу, ай ин раша Привет, я из россии Hello, i in Russia :)
@bengermanb
@bengermanb 2 жыл бұрын
So… Щ is similar to a typical English SH, and Ш is a Sean Connery SH? 😏
@YaShoom
@YaShoom 2 жыл бұрын
Sean still sounds too soft (medium), like a standard English "Sh")))
@shon7507
@shon7507 2 жыл бұрын
Team Clooney here
@Almightservant
@Almightservant Жыл бұрын
I still can't spot the diference 😥
@yazychnik8648
@yazychnik8648 2 жыл бұрын
Выпьем за лююююбооовь
@lifeofys169
@lifeofys169 3 жыл бұрын
This video is for university student learning russian bery professional knowledge
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, however, this information is quite basic.
@Bubbagrime1234
@Bubbagrime1234 Жыл бұрын
Ш Щ!
@nicolebaronas1118
@nicolebaronas1118 Жыл бұрын
Sha and scha are very hard to pronounce in English.
@ezequielstepanenko3229
@ezequielstepanenko3229 3 жыл бұрын
And what about Ж?
@DenisFedorov
@DenisFedorov 3 жыл бұрын
Ж is pronounced exactly like Ш but is voiced.
@Temporale_Estivo83
@Temporale_Estivo83 3 жыл бұрын
Like French "je" or English "usually".
@ezequielstepanenko3229
@ezequielstepanenko3229 3 жыл бұрын
@@Temporale_Estivo83 that was helpful
@Temporale_Estivo83
@Temporale_Estivo83 3 жыл бұрын
@@ezequielstepanenko3229 Thanks.
@tazaoumur
@tazaoumur 3 жыл бұрын
Ж can be pronounced by some speakers as voiced Щ in words like уеЗЖать, дроЖЖи.
@Z8WKW82KW8
@Z8WKW82KW8 2 жыл бұрын
1:12
@daviddenson3324
@daviddenson3324 2 жыл бұрын
The latter one just sounds like the English sh to me
@bra9780097
@bra9780097 Ай бұрын
ممتار
@rj-jl5nv
@rj-jl5nv Жыл бұрын
I thought it was "sh-tsh".
@amuga_1
@amuga_1 10 ай бұрын
YOUR PICTURES OF THE MOUTH IS HORRIBLE, IT ISN'T CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD AND UNDEPICTED BUT LOVE THE VIDEO.
@familiamarquez3219
@familiamarquez3219 Жыл бұрын
Щ isn't pronounced as shsh (šš) it's pronounced as shch (šč)
@kleytonbernan2984
@kleytonbernan2984 Жыл бұрын
It is, in Russian
@niczkowski
@niczkowski Жыл бұрын
in standard russian its šš. but in some southern russian dialects near the ukrainian border its šč. this is also how it is in ukrainian belarusyn and polish.
@ErinaBee.sMoney
@ErinaBee.sMoney Ай бұрын
@@niczkowski I'm Polish and we don't use Cyrillic...
@oleandra3759
@oleandra3759 3 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤔🤯😵‍💫
@RSDonovan
@RSDonovan 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@utuber6175
@utuber6175 Жыл бұрын
ш = Sean Connery; щ = Donald Trump 😝
@deadaccount03791
@deadaccount03791 2 жыл бұрын
i think I'll just learn Ukrainian instead
@LoversGrief
@LoversGrief Жыл бұрын
Hhahahaha
@ilija_Duniczew
@ilija_Duniczew Жыл бұрын
The Russians are dumb for using Щ for sh, because it literally is an combination of the letters Ш and Т (sht), BUT NOOO WE ARE RUSSIANS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE OUR OWN RULES!! How disrespectful towards such a beautiful script. Russians and Ukrainians don't deserve the Cyrillic
@ЭфиЦкл
@ЭфиЦкл Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@ilija_Duniczew
@ilija_Duniczew Жыл бұрын
@@ЭфиЦкл exactly, how russians look using it like that.
@neko2718_
@neko2718_ 9 ай бұрын
What the f*ck are you talking about, щ is not a шт at all.
@ilija_Duniczew
@ilija_Duniczew 9 ай бұрын
@@neko2718_ In its origins it is. Old Church Slavonic, from which Russians comes from made use of щ as a letter both combined in its sound and looks of ш and т.
@neko2718_
@neko2718_ 9 ай бұрын
@@ilija_Duniczew In any case, щ doesn't sound like шт at all, so there is no reason to use 2 letters instead of 1
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