In this video, I provide a neat proof of the chain rule, and I also explain why I call it the Chen Lu. Enjoy!
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@AndrewDotsonvideos5 жыл бұрын
If you think of the partial derivative as the component of the gradient vector, chain rule just pops out by definition of how covariant vector components transform which is pretty neat. Not sure if it also works for chen lu.
@drpeyam5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lu, not Chen Lou 😅
@AndDiracisHisProphet5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lew?
@Demki5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lieu
@koenth23595 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Lu_(figure_skater)
@lucasfrykman58895 жыл бұрын
@@koenth2359 Imagine every calling her chain rule now lmao. She will be so confused.
@jessehammer1235 жыл бұрын
Chen Liu.
@dyer3085 жыл бұрын
Dr peyam i took complex analysis this semester because you motivated me so much to take it all last year!
@completeandunabridged.46065 жыл бұрын
I have only recently started watching your videos. I love them.
@wankar03885 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Tigre Peyam. You are the best!!!!!!
@rockyjoe38175 жыл бұрын
Time to understand the rule that the teachers made us memorise it !!!
@MrCigarro505 жыл бұрын
Clarísimo, Fantástico...Gracias, Dr. Peyam.
@Meth240965 жыл бұрын
Simple, efficace ; merci docteur, vous mériteriez vraiment plus de visibilité sur la plateforme ! (PS : Chêne Lou ça marche aussi)
@quantumsoul34955 жыл бұрын
Nn c'est tchene lou
@dougr.23984 жыл бұрын
Ou peut-être chien-loup
@SisypheanRoller2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite episodes of the Dr Peyam show. I feel the Chen Lu coursing through my veins now 😁😁 Time for the HD Chen Lu!
@PrettyMuchPhysics5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lu *does* sound powerful... 🤔 Maybe I'm gonna use it in a future video.. :D
@JamalAhmadMalik5 жыл бұрын
Precisely what I wanted to learn today!
@Demki5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a different proof that defines the two functions : given y_0=g(x_0) (and calculating the derivative of f composed with g at x_0, with g differentiable at x_0 and f differentiable at y_0) F(y)={f'(y_0) when y=y_0, (f(y)-f(y_0))/(y-y_0) otherwise. G(x)={g'(x_0) when x=x_0, (g(x)-g(x_0))/(x-x_0) otherwise. Then shows that (f(g(x))-f(g(x_0)))/(x-x_0) = F(g(x)) G(x) since both F, g and G are continuous at the appropriate points (which is because f and g are differentiable at y_0 and x_0 respectively), when taking the limit we get F(g(x_0)) G(x_0), which is by definition f'(g(x_0)) g'(x_0)
@andreapaps3 жыл бұрын
Was your lecturer Chinese because in Mandarin (律 =lu) means rule and I'm assuming 'Chen' is chain pronounced with an accent?
@drpeyam3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I had no idea that Lu literally means rule!!!
@MarioFanGamer6595 жыл бұрын
When I had to prove the chain rule, I never really understood why it worked (it doesn't help that the schoolbook I had has got a confusing proof). I knew that I needed a second variable (k in that case) which is dependent on h but I never came into me where that k came from. The punchline for proof of the chain rule is to define k as v(x + h) - v(x) (numerator of the inner differential quotient) and make the outer limit dependent on k instead of h. Due to the definition, if h -> 0 then k -> 0 too because v(x + 0) - v(x) = v(x) - v(x) = 0. That way, you can define as u(v(x + h)) - u(v(x)) as u(v(x) + k) - (u(v(x)) as shown in this video and derive the outer function. Of course, your proof goes even more technical but the most important step in the chain rule is to define k as v(x + h) - v(x).
@tomatrix75253 жыл бұрын
Peyam, 100k is getting so close for you. I have no idea how you didn’t reach it years ago, but atleast your still our little secret lol!
@drpeyam3 жыл бұрын
Awwww thanks so much!
@nestorv76275 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful
@adamhrankowski12985 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr. P. New subscriber. Love your vids. One suggestion on this one is that the board doesn't fill the screen. Makes it harder to follow on a phone screen. No probs. I can grab the tablet if needed. 😎
@rajendramisir35305 жыл бұрын
Same here Adam. Difficult to read on my phone. Beautiful proof though.
@dougr.23984 жыл бұрын
Rotate sideways :)
@everettmeekins15825 жыл бұрын
At 13:52 I am a tiny bit confused. So you are taking the limit as h->0 of the error term of h squiggle (which has h in the def and would to zero as h goes to zero. Though with that logic, wouldn’t you have had to move the limit inside of the error function? And to do that, we would have to prove the the error function is continuous right? I just don’t remember if that was done or it is was super easy to see why
@pauloedmachado91375 жыл бұрын
Everett Meekins when I had to do this proof in my Real Analysis test, yes, we had to prove the continuity of the function. It's a really long and dull proof
@everettmeekins15825 жыл бұрын
paulo ed machado oh okay. I just started taking real analysis the semester (only have had 2 classes). But rip tho
@-_-rain54325 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@hamez1300 Жыл бұрын
6:52 are we allowed to multiple out by h squiggle if it's zero? Would the zero denominator issue?
@AlmightyMatthew5 жыл бұрын
I skipped to the end just to hear the story again
@Gold1618035 жыл бұрын
So what actually changed when you replaced f(x+h)-f(x) with h squiggle? You just substituted it back later... Sorry if I'm missing something obvious
@shuddhoshawttoroy62573 жыл бұрын
Please proof the theorem of chain rule for integral calculus
@rogerkearns80945 жыл бұрын
_Use the Chen Lu!!!_ ...and don't forget to wash your hands.
@dougr.23984 жыл бұрын
ONE potential problem..... we agreed Sigma is some junk..... but if it depends on h or h « squiggle »(I prefer to call a tilde a tilde, unless it is a Waltzing MaTilde) suppose Sigma blows up? Can we show sigma is stationary (constant) or only increases in such a way that it’s product with f(x+h) - f(x) still goes to zero?
@harpleblues2 жыл бұрын
In high school chem I heard my chem teacher saying heaven god knows number when talking about the number of atoms in the mass of an element. I was in complete agreement. How could you know the number of atoms in a given mass? Once I got my ears on right I heard him say Avogadro’s number.
@orphixigl14763 жыл бұрын
Why sigma -> 0 when h ->0? Sigma isn't a continuous function when f(x+h) - f(x) = 0
@zorak00442 жыл бұрын
Leithold says the function F in delta u terms, might be continuos at zero.. but Why? Derivation`s condition? I am a engineer , two weeks stuck wthis! Greetings from Perù!
@dgrandlapinblanc5 жыл бұрын
You are so crazy Blackpenredpen and you ! I understand now. My best friend ! It's good all that the morning. Thanks.
@xiding37093 жыл бұрын
Chen lu can also be the Latin expression of a Chinese girl’s name。。。。。。
@fromblonmenchaves61612 жыл бұрын
Why is there a junk term in the g'(y) ?
@jesuisravi Жыл бұрын
Is there an easier way?
@drpeyam Жыл бұрын
Nope
@lucasfrykman58895 жыл бұрын
I have a faster proof. It involves what you already did with factorizing out f'(x) out of d/dx g(f(x). the 2 terms you are left with is (g(f(x+h)-g(f(x))/f(x+h)-f(x) * f'(x). I will focus on the first term. substitute f(x+h)-f(x) =u and f(x)= k You'll be left with lim as u--> 0 of (g(k+u) - g(k))/u * f'(x) Which is just g'(k) * f'(x) = g'(f(x) * f'(x). Bada bing bada boom QED baby.
Doesn’t that circumvent the limiting process as part of the definition of the differential? So.... pretending the numerators and denominators of differentials are separable is quackery!!!! (EverybodyDUCK!!!)
@sarunyapongkeangsarikit21625 жыл бұрын
I am very interesting but. I am not see anything because it too small
@silly_dong3 жыл бұрын
I was an awsome man, then I was
@adamhrankowski12985 жыл бұрын
This seems like non-standard analysis, with the sigma term being an infinitesimal.