Proof of the Chain Rule

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Dr Peyam

Dr Peyam

5 жыл бұрын

In this video, I provide a neat proof of the chain rule, and I also explain why I call it the Chen Lu. Enjoy!

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@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 5 жыл бұрын
If you think of the partial derivative as the component of the gradient vector, chain rule just pops out by definition of how covariant vector components transform which is pretty neat. Not sure if it also works for chen lu.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lu, not Chen Lou 😅
@AndDiracisHisProphet
@AndDiracisHisProphet 5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lew?
@Demki
@Demki 5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lieu
@koenth2359
@koenth2359 5 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Lu_(figure_skater)
@lucasfrykman5889
@lucasfrykman5889 5 жыл бұрын
@@koenth2359 Imagine every calling her chain rule now lmao. She will be so confused.
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 5 жыл бұрын
Chen Liu.
@dyer308
@dyer308 5 жыл бұрын
Dr peyam i took complex analysis this semester because you motivated me so much to take it all last year!
@completeandunabridged.4606
@completeandunabridged.4606 5 жыл бұрын
I have only recently started watching your videos. I love them.
@wankar0388
@wankar0388 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Tigre Peyam. You are the best!!!!!!
@rockyjoe3817
@rockyjoe3817 5 жыл бұрын
Time to understand the rule that the teachers made us memorise it !!!
@MrCigarro50
@MrCigarro50 5 жыл бұрын
Clarísimo, Fantástico...Gracias, Dr. Peyam.
@Meth24096
@Meth24096 5 жыл бұрын
Simple, efficace ; merci docteur, vous mériteriez vraiment plus de visibilité sur la plateforme ! (PS : Chêne Lou ça marche aussi)
@quantumsoul3495
@quantumsoul3495 5 жыл бұрын
Nn c'est tchene lou
@dougr.2398
@dougr.2398 4 жыл бұрын
Ou peut-être chien-loup
@SisypheanRoller
@SisypheanRoller 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite episodes of the Dr Peyam show. I feel the Chen Lu coursing through my veins now 😁😁 Time for the HD Chen Lu!
@PrettyMuchPhysics
@PrettyMuchPhysics 5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lu *does* sound powerful... 🤔 Maybe I'm gonna use it in a future video.. :D
@JamalAhmadMalik
@JamalAhmadMalik 5 жыл бұрын
Precisely what I wanted to learn today!
@Demki
@Demki 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a different proof that defines the two functions : given y_0=g(x_0) (and calculating the derivative of f composed with g at x_0, with g differentiable at x_0 and f differentiable at y_0) F(y)={f'(y_0) when y=y_0, (f(y)-f(y_0))/(y-y_0) otherwise. G(x)={g'(x_0) when x=x_0, (g(x)-g(x_0))/(x-x_0) otherwise. Then shows that (f(g(x))-f(g(x_0)))/(x-x_0) = F(g(x)) G(x) since both F, g and G are continuous at the appropriate points (which is because f and g are differentiable at y_0 and x_0 respectively), when taking the limit we get F(g(x_0)) G(x_0), which is by definition f'(g(x_0)) g'(x_0)
@andreapaps
@andreapaps 3 жыл бұрын
Was your lecturer Chinese because in Mandarin (律 =lu) means rule and I'm assuming 'Chen' is chain pronounced with an accent?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I had no idea that Lu literally means rule!!!
@MarioFanGamer659
@MarioFanGamer659 5 жыл бұрын
When I had to prove the chain rule, I never really understood why it worked (it doesn't help that the schoolbook I had has got a confusing proof). I knew that I needed a second variable (k in that case) which is dependent on h but I never came into me where that k came from. The punchline for proof of the chain rule is to define k as v(x + h) - v(x) (numerator of the inner differential quotient) and make the outer limit dependent on k instead of h. Due to the definition, if h -> 0 then k -> 0 too because v(x + 0) - v(x) = v(x) - v(x) = 0. That way, you can define as u(v(x + h)) - u(v(x)) as u(v(x) + k) - (u(v(x)) as shown in this video and derive the outer function. Of course, your proof goes even more technical but the most important step in the chain rule is to define k as v(x + h) - v(x).
@tomatrix7525
@tomatrix7525 3 жыл бұрын
Peyam, 100k is getting so close for you. I have no idea how you didn’t reach it years ago, but atleast your still our little secret lol!
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
Awwww thanks so much!
@nestorv7627
@nestorv7627 5 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful
@adamhrankowski1298
@adamhrankowski1298 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr. P. New subscriber. Love your vids. One suggestion on this one is that the board doesn't fill the screen. Makes it harder to follow on a phone screen. No probs. I can grab the tablet if needed. 😎
@rajendramisir3530
@rajendramisir3530 5 жыл бұрын
Same here Adam. Difficult to read on my phone. Beautiful proof though.
@dougr.2398
@dougr.2398 4 жыл бұрын
Rotate sideways :)
@everettmeekins1582
@everettmeekins1582 5 жыл бұрын
At 13:52 I am a tiny bit confused. So you are taking the limit as h->0 of the error term of h squiggle (which has h in the def and would to zero as h goes to zero. Though with that logic, wouldn’t you have had to move the limit inside of the error function? And to do that, we would have to prove the the error function is continuous right? I just don’t remember if that was done or it is was super easy to see why
@pauloedmachado9137
@pauloedmachado9137 5 жыл бұрын
Everett Meekins when I had to do this proof in my Real Analysis test, yes, we had to prove the continuity of the function. It's a really long and dull proof
@everettmeekins1582
@everettmeekins1582 5 жыл бұрын
paulo ed machado oh okay. I just started taking real analysis the semester (only have had 2 classes). But rip tho
@-_-rain5432
@-_-rain5432 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@hamez1300
@hamez1300 Жыл бұрын
6:52 are we allowed to multiple out by h squiggle if it's zero? Would the zero denominator issue?
@AlmightyMatthew
@AlmightyMatthew 5 жыл бұрын
I skipped to the end just to hear the story again
@Gold161803
@Gold161803 5 жыл бұрын
So what actually changed when you replaced f(x+h)-f(x) with h squiggle? You just substituted it back later... Sorry if I'm missing something obvious
@shuddhoshawttoroy6257
@shuddhoshawttoroy6257 3 жыл бұрын
Please proof the theorem of chain rule for integral calculus
@rogerkearns8094
@rogerkearns8094 5 жыл бұрын
_Use the Chen Lu!!!_ ...and don't forget to wash your hands.
@dougr.2398
@dougr.2398 4 жыл бұрын
ONE potential problem..... we agreed Sigma is some junk..... but if it depends on h or h « squiggle »(I prefer to call a tilde a tilde, unless it is a Waltzing MaTilde) suppose Sigma blows up? Can we show sigma is stationary (constant) or only increases in such a way that it’s product with f(x+h) - f(x) still goes to zero?
@harpleblues
@harpleblues 2 жыл бұрын
In high school chem I heard my chem teacher saying heaven god knows number when talking about the number of atoms in the mass of an element. I was in complete agreement. How could you know the number of atoms in a given mass? Once I got my ears on right I heard him say Avogadro’s number.
@orphixigl1476
@orphixigl1476 3 жыл бұрын
Why sigma -> 0 when h ->0? Sigma isn't a continuous function when f(x+h) - f(x) = 0
@zorak0044
@zorak0044 2 жыл бұрын
Leithold says the function F in delta u terms, might be continuos at zero.. but Why? Derivation`s condition? I am a engineer , two weeks stuck wthis! Greetings from Perù!
@dgrandlapinblanc
@dgrandlapinblanc 5 жыл бұрын
You are so crazy Blackpenredpen and you ! I understand now. My best friend ! It's good all that the morning. Thanks.
@xiding3709
@xiding3709 3 жыл бұрын
Chen lu can also be the Latin expression of a Chinese girl’s name。。。。。。
@fromblonmenchaves6161
@fromblonmenchaves6161 2 жыл бұрын
Why is there a junk term in the g'(y) ?
@jesuisravi
@jesuisravi Жыл бұрын
Is there an easier way?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam Жыл бұрын
Nope
@lucasfrykman5889
@lucasfrykman5889 5 жыл бұрын
I have a faster proof. It involves what you already did with factorizing out f'(x) out of d/dx g(f(x). the 2 terms you are left with is (g(f(x+h)-g(f(x))/f(x+h)-f(x) * f'(x). I will focus on the first term. substitute f(x+h)-f(x) =u and f(x)= k You'll be left with lim as u--> 0 of (g(k+u) - g(k))/u * f'(x) Which is just g'(k) * f'(x) = g'(f(x) * f'(x). Bada bing bada boom QED baby.
@Flanlaina
@Flanlaina 4 жыл бұрын
Use the Chen Lu!!!!
@slutskystheorem15912
@slutskystheorem15912 5 жыл бұрын
Is it Lou or Lu?
@cicciobombo7496
@cicciobombo7496 5 жыл бұрын
Loo
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
Chen Lu!!! 😄
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, how embarrassing, I wrote Chen Lou 😅
@helloitsme7553
@helloitsme7553 5 жыл бұрын
Simplest proof: dy/dx =dy/dx * du/du = dy/du * du/dx
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
HelloItsMe Love it!
@dougr.2398
@dougr.2398 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t that circumvent the limiting process as part of the definition of the differential? So.... pretending the numerators and denominators of differentials are separable is quackery!!!! (EverybodyDUCK!!!)
@sarunyapongkeangsarikit2162
@sarunyapongkeangsarikit2162 5 жыл бұрын
I am very interesting but. I am not see anything because it too small
@silly_dong
@silly_dong 3 жыл бұрын
I was an awsome man, then I was
@adamhrankowski1298
@adamhrankowski1298 5 жыл бұрын
This seems like non-standard analysis, with the sigma term being an infinitesimal.
@hunter-nj9kp
@hunter-nj9kp Жыл бұрын
Quit ur job kid im smarter
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