Propagandhi on Trump as a symptom

[@daposllc9256]

I like how the band is very quiet in comparison to their music when they talk about certian topics that are important to them and us. Almost devotional, most impressive.

[@morganthem]

Are you russian by chance? Mr Downer?

[@DoubleDowner]

not everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian bot ...

[@morganthem]

DoubleDowner you'd need to prove I think that before it becomes a valid counterargument

[@morganthem]

It is useful if we differentiate between pieces of rhetoric and literal implication. Is there a reasonable chance you are a Russian bot? I'd rather ask if you understand how presumptuous your opinion really is. Hardly anyone is purely socialist. Socialism seems to be conflated with democratic socialism, which already exists in the USA. It is taking these principles further, and allowing the people to control (via voting) the government, not lobbying efforts by enormous companies vying for their own pocketbooks, which interests people like the members of Propaghandi.

[@morganthem]

Scotty P and i didn't realize selling you out to the corporate ELITE was as you say "punk as fuck" lol warms my insides lol

[@LongNLowGMC]

Came here due to Chris's face in the thumbnail

[@BrodyDanger]

I thought it was Jim Harbaugh at first glance.

[@bidibum]

Is it possible to have the whole interview?

[@UltraPvnk]

Whatever they identify as, they made an album so great and technical that I can only say: "Thank you, for being a part of my life. U guys edify me."

[@nickcliche]

And that album is Supporting Caste

[@UltraPvnk]

@@nickcliche When the credits finally rolls from this the worst story ever so don't bother sifting through the names of yours or anyone u know

[@derchozenvun83]

They were respectable in the '90s.

[@UltraPvnk]

@@derchozenvun83 I can believe that, after scrolling through their most recently IG posts I can see them being no less different than T Swift.

[@bluedonkeyman]

"the exact same thing with a friendly face attached to it" ---> TRUDEAU

[@mikeyb7786]

Would like to see what they think of biden and trudeau

[@jhickssmd]

No criticism at all… that’s why I don’t take them serious. They are too blinded by left and right to notice that Trump was a better president than Biden on war alone… and I hate them both but that just reality. They are too caught up in identity bullshit… most people don’t give a fuck about that.

[@HarryButtsworth]

Well they pretty well summed it up in that interview. Did you listen to the interview?

[@nrXic]

They address that in this interview.

[@lskyrocker1]

I wonder what they think of the pipeline disruptions now that gas has quadrupled since this interview. I think the “looming ecological disaster” will be self imposed by green insanity, not the pipelines themselves.

[@xp8969]

That's because you don't know what ecology is

[@joshuapocalypse]

Not sure about that.

[@danevertt3210]

The pipeline wouldn’t have effect gas prices

[@somethingfatal]

You clearly don’t know fuck all about Propagandhi if you think they care about gas prices over the looming ecological disaster 😅

[@bjpargeter466]

I fucking love these guys. More than just musical icons.

[@derchozenvun83]

At least they knew how to point the finger back in the early '90s. It's sad to watch men become so weak minded.

[@jhickssmd]

Yep, it’s like watching Rage Against the Machine doing a fundraiser for the Clinton campaign.

[@Charles2112pp]

Is pointing the finger really virtuous though? I can only speak for myself, but in my 40+ years of existence when someone points their finger at me my ears shut off and I get defensive. However when people calmly and slowly present me with reasons to look at my actions or thoughts in a way that comes off as caring I have been motivated to think critically about myself. As I age it seems like what some would call weak is exactly what pushes me to change for the better and aggressive finger pointing makes me not want to even be in someone else's presence and definitely not want to listen to what they have to say. I don't personally know anyone who is or was a propagandhi fan because they didn't already think the same as them when they first heard them and then were sold by the finger pointing. Maybe they're out there, but my experience was definitely that the young anger in the music just spoke to other young angry people and wasn't some catalyst for change. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it seems like they've grown as people and calmed down in a way that is probably healthy for their well being.

[@derchozenvun83]

@@Charles2112pp It's not about the offender's emotions in the case mentioned, it's about others being mindful of what they've done and will likely do. Honestly, I know them for essentially one song as most do; and it's in regards to a current issue. Whether the cogs work or not, a catalyst is still a catalyst. If you have a working spark plug but the rest of the device is busted, you can't blame the catalyst.

[@derchozenvun83]

It's not about the offender's emotions in the case mentioned, it's about others being mindful of what they've done and will likely do. Honestly, I know them for essentially one song as most do; and it's in regards to a current issue. Whether the cogs work or not, a catalyst is still a catalyst. If you have a working spark plug but the rest of the device is busted, you can't blame the catalyst.

[@Charles2112pp]

@@derchozenvun83 I'm not sure that we're talking about the same thing.

[@crixusthenorman1603]

I'd love to see this interview done today....with Biden and the current nuclear threat.

[@xp8969]

They'd say the same thing, as Leftists they have been criticizing right wing Democrats and right wing Republicans for more than 30 years now

[@kreat0rrr]

'looming ecological catastrophe' ye right, you living in a spoilt world if you still feel the need to signal virtue like that. Here's an idea for their next album cover. i.imgur.com/98w72eQ.jpg Title it 'Communism, the looming economic catastrophe'

[@danevertt3210]

They would be more supportive of Biden then Trump

[@mikeyb7786]

Liberal idiots

[@derchozenvun83]

These are former men. Just picture "Ironman" in a beige cardigan dressed like an old lady telling people how they should act. All we have are pathetic shadows of most who were in any way significant for any true reason.

[@onetermloser5918]

I’ve always loved their music ... their political beliefs don’t bother me ... 🤘🏼

[@SolidDuke77]

When the drummer is the one making the most sense in a band that's alarming.

[@nrXic]

They're all saying the same thing.

[@shawnwilson2127]

Music was ok..But idiot's on Politics..But it's a preaching kinda band Lol

[@mattdowd95]

It's all in the name things guys are just smart

[@brettmiller7469]

What happened to peace loving moderate, humble, ecologically responsible liberals. My Ph.D liberal historian Dad passed a few years ago. What I miss the most was his gentleness, and willingness to even listen, yet debate with Conservatives.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

This band isn't liberal

[@bigbirdmusic8199]

@@Sergio-nb4hj yes they are, and its disgusting. The very definition of "punk" nowadays is capitulation. Again, disgusting.

[@camronyearout1158]

@@bigbirdmusic8199 "liberal" isn't the end all of leftism you fucking cabbage.

[@danevertt3210]

@@bigbirdmusic8199what

[@Fa5Squad]

They aint even american citizens

[@patswayze7359]

Wow a punk band that is actually political....

[@psyconetwork951]

Yeah, imagine how blown your mind will be when you realize there's an entire genre of political punk, cus you know, punk isn't always political.

[@trashmanzero7827]

Funny, cause I find it hard to find punk bands that aren't these days.

[@devinmichaelroberts9954]

i hope thats sarcasm because there are literally no punk bands these days who arent political.

[@devinmichaelroberts9954]

Even big ones like Green day released an entire political concept album called american idiot. If anything the "punk" thing to do these days would be to NOt be political like every other band.

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

@@devinmichaelroberts9954 I think a lot of people have the impression that punk is anti-popular, anti establishment, an offshoot of bi-polar stepchildren, you're special because you're special but you're not really special at all.... Being anti-popular is popular amungst punks.. Every punk band is political cause they're supposed to be.. they are just doing it for the wrong reason.. one I stated above... Popularity.

[@brettmiller7469]

Where are the gentle people? The Alan Alda's? Did the comedians all commit suicide from garbage censorship of fools who can't even take a few harsh but True words?

[@stevebanning902]

Trump is a safer bet than 99% of politicians we've ever seen in regards to actually helping the people of the united states and the world. How many wars did he start?

[@TallgrassMeander]

😂😂😂

[@Ratarue]

Word.

[@jharristurner]

Thank God we got Trump out, now lets get back to some good ol fashioned war!!!

[@teamenemy.]

The left are total hypocrites...

[@throttlebuff]

Lol no shit. Back to business as usual for the international banking cartel

[@tpajason]

God I can’t wait for him to come back. MAGA baby.

[@WilcoxNotreallythere]

No. Not maga. But the double war thing just got way more crazy. Plus housing doubled in the last 3 years. Gas, inflation. Global depression

[@acc4465]

You know all these guys politics have changed over the years - as they do for everyone who has a brain.

[@mattdegnan2989]

Let's go Brandon!

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

Yes

[@danevertt3210]

Imagine having an unlimited amount of characters you can use in a comment and you choose to go with the rally cry of the ignorant and uneducated

[@vancefuller2120]

Yeah, and you call them deplorable and wonder why they are pissed off

[@birdbraINCorporated]

Love you guys! Dont fear!

[@acc4465]

These guys are so ‘political’ then when you give them a microphone - they have zero to say. It’s kinda sad guys.

[@ryanjavierortega8513]

I had no idea propagandhi was signing about politics, I thought it was all about girls

[@kylewagoner]

Damn they are 100% on point with my politics.

[@kanethekarnt]

Those are anarchist politics my friend. It's worth looking at.

[@SkremoMcThrftsto]

I can't tell if Scott Petty is satirically lampooning a Trump voter or if he actually is one. If it is the former: bravo! If it is the latter: Hey, did you hear that drinking bleach makes you build muscle quicker?

[@SpongeBath_ShitPants]

I'm more on the libertarian side of things, but I could see myself getting along with them.

[@brettmiller7469]

Well put. The left alternative we have now is as bad as Trump was.

[@Zagaki1]

There is no left alternative in the United States, only “moderate” republicans and far-right republicans.

[@lifesajoke6965]

Most of the issues they had with Trump were invented by them in the first place. They made people believe that a game show host who publicly dated black women and is married to an immigrant was more racist than Hitler.

[@throttlebuff]

Trump wasn't bad at all. The shadow government fabricated lie after lie to thwart him and if you open yours eyes you can see this. It's all there but the media doesn't report it. If you are a lib, you are being lied to. Please wake the fuck up and look at the bigger picture. Don't you think it's odd that the one time a president comes into office claiming he is going to get rid of the bad actors that the only news you see is negative about him. Don't you think its strange to have impeachment trials based on fabricated information paid for by the opposing party. I'm not a republican. I think. You should too.

[@PlanetMcDirt]

BOY WERE THEY WRONG

[@xp8969]

How much do you pay for those drugs?

[@seadkolasinac7220]

persuasive critique here

[@TallgrassMeander]

About what?

[@samreilly4360]

No one is mentioning anything about a Resource based economy which is the best solution i have seen.

[@austinbranscomb7135]

Oil would spread to much greed

[@punkgrl325]

Yeah. I prefer a resource-based economy way more compared to socialism, which still relies on tying human value to the protestant work ethic in order to function. I wish writers like Jacques Fresco, Rutger Bregman, Peter Joseph, etc. were more well known.

[@benlangford34]

The most forward thinking secular punk outfit ever .. at least they fucking stand for something ..

[@jamestoop4767]

TRUMP GOD

[@devilsoffspring5519]

If I live to be maybe 75-80 (typical age for Canadian males) I'll be disappointed if there isn't any nuclear war. We've fretted over it for so many years now it would be a disappointment if it never actually happened! It's just that I'd only want it to happen just before I naturally croak, not before.

[@squishydough2866]

Really loved this band until they decided to get political.

[@how-4-2]

Hilarious!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, hold on i just peed myself 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh did it again🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@squishydough2866]

@@notehden Twas a joke :)

[@notehden]

@@squishydough2866 that’s exactly why i deleted my comment LMAO guess i gotta take everything seriously nowadays

[@how-4-2]

@@squishydough2866 received as such, and appreciated 🤙

[@jhix9155]

Musicians acting like they have legitimate opinions are the most annoying thing ever.

[@craigjackson6883]

You're a dipshit

[@jhix9155]

@@craigjackson6883 no, you are. The fact you obviously take their opinions seriously is even funnier. Sooo iNtelLecktuWaLl

[@jhix9155]

@@craigjackson6883 propagandhi is basically "tfw read Chomsky once" lmao..so deeeep man. Blah blah blah human rights blah blah blah democracy blah blah blah blah

[@craigjackson6883]

@@jhix9155 who says I take it seriously?

[@craigjackson6883]

@@jhix9155 oh man you almost got me.

[@lskyrocker1]

Summary: vague left talking points while basically admitting they have no clue. Trumps bad right? Yeah Trump bad

[@seadkolasinac7220]

They're not actually talking about Trump so much, your response just shows some bizarre impulse you have to rush to his defence. And btw, massive tax cuts for the rich, removal of environmental protections, and poor pandemic response -- all of those, and more, are bad.

[@lskyrocker1]

@@seadkolasinac7220 I’ll agree, the pandemic response was terrible, and Trump was the original vaccine pusher, so I disagree with my previous self haha

[@lasalbay]

As Chris says ... "Tear the whole FUCKIN' Thing DOWN!"

[@FtheLeftSF]

thank goodness for Trump -

[@ZenAntics13]

You haven't listened to any Propagandhi lyrics yet have you.

[@M4R4L4G0]

@@ZenAntics13 yeah some are amazing and can bring tears to your eyes, but others are so contradictory. I've loved prop for 20 something years. the antifa rhetoric has to go though. Trump is a great President and will Make America Great Again!

[@BKRockwell]

When was the last time the US was great? What is it that you think the US had in the past that you wish Trump to restore?

[@M4R4L4G0]

@@BKRockwell when 2+2=4 and when there was only 2 genders also when grown men couldn't go into the women's restroom.

[@machinesbreathe]

M4R4L4G0 - I thought that Trumps present campaign slogan was to “Keep America Great”, or KAG, like the sound my cat makes when hacking up a hairball. Either, there are some things where you feel Trump is falling short of his promise to “Make America Great”, or you are otherwise late to class.

[@samreilly4360]

Wait, they don't do benefits for Planned parenthood do they?

[@teamenemy.]

Yep

[@seadkolasinac7220]

Heroes.

[@devinmichaelroberts9954]

"I cant think of anything more punk rock these days in hollywood than being a conservative"- Trey Parker from Southpark

[@xp8969]

Having been a punk for 40 years now I can't think of anything that's further from being a punk than being a conservative is

[@crujones4046]

The new guys like I’m just happy to be in the band

[@rodneyjohnson3996]

TRUMP 2020 MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@chippsymcstagger4571]

This aged well

[@MrSw7ndel]

@@chippsymcstagger4571 yeah just like your potato of a president.

[@throttlebuff]

Well sorry but they stole it... Maybe next time..

[@mikehesq007]

#maga 2020

[@sharkulashairstylist5505]

get over it.

[@MrSw7ndel]

@@sharkulashairstylist5505 enjoying your well done potato of a president. 🤣🤣🤣

[@notehden]

how’d that turn out for you bud?

[@mikehesq007]

@@notehden You’re right. Biden’s America is just so fantastic 😂

[@notehden]

@@mikehesq007 oh god it’s in no way better, you just lost and i think that’s funny

[@devinmichaelroberts9954]

Its interesting watching 3 white guys sit on a couch talking about the state of the world while the only person of color just sits there kind of silent. Its always the liberal white guy who has to "stand up" and say something isnt it?

[@xp8969]

First of all that's a woman, and she only joined the band a year before this was filmed where as the other 3 members have been on the band for 30 years now, and this is just a few minutes cut out of a very long interview and she speaks in other parts, and more importantly idk why yer calling them Libs, this band has put out music for 30 years now that talks about nothing other than how shitty conservative Liberal policies are

[@seadkolasinac7220]

non-critique

[@M4R4L4G0]

Trump 2Q2Q

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

This comment aged well lmao

[@M4R4L4G0]

@@Sergio-nb4hj Thank you. 🇺🇸TRUMP🇺🇸

[@lifesajoke6965]

@@Sergio-nb4hj Still aged better than Biden has.

[@throttlebuff]

At least we know it was stolen. Hopefully enough people will wake up during bidens blunders to see what the fuck is really going on

[@danevertt3210]

@@lifesajoke6965 incorrect now a days

[@thatbagpiper4426]

President Trump was the greatest thing to happen not only to America. But to the world!

[@danevertt3210]

What’s scary is your enthusiasm for being so clueless and uneducated