Proper Pull Line WILL Increase Your Backhand Distance in Disc Golf!

[@logicgates7732]

Scott Stokely - “the Mike Rowe of disc golf” What a teacher... taking this knowledge to the course today!! Thanks Scott!!

[@ruckeddeadup]

Someone's gotta do the Dirty Job of teaching us how to sling. Appriciate it Scott!

[@Metalsman75]

This dude is straight-up legend status in this sport. We are so fortunate to have him back in the disc golf scene and teaching. Stokely -- you're a disc golf deity.

[@timdennis2156]

I love your explanations. They click like no other I've heard from pros.

[@jasonchandlee7561]

No joke. That lawnmower in the back of a truck just made me realize why my backhand are so horrible lol

[@Funyuns0505]

Seriously, this dudes the best, so pumped to see him on tour this year!

[@beastntenn]

I saw the thumbnail and was immediately like "thats Oggwood!" Love it

[@kevinnfknsd229]

I've been playing disc golf for 15+ years fairly seriously and my mind was just blown. The way you explained how to find the right power position for me made so much sense. Thx Scott

[@jordanmack7848]

2:25 "Our nipples are even in different locations!" -Scott Stokely

[@demonhunta07]

made me giggle

[@jasonclemente4392]

i didnt laugh until you quoted him on it finishing it off with his name lmao

[@kendalljamesmusic]

indeed- mine are oriented vertically, like buttons on a snowman

[@nkees]

My new ringtone

[@mattsmith1260]

So simple, but so effective. I watched this and tried throwing where I normally throw from, and then I fixed my power pocket and line by doing what you said. It instantly added 73'. And btw, I was throwing a midrange. Thank you. Now, I'll have to show this to the group I disc with. Thanks again.

[@tkmair6559]

This is THE Best video I have seen for a intermediate player (me right now) who wants more distance. You sir are an excellent teacher.

[@waltdizney4815]

Watching year later great to see the updated end clip really showing the work you've put in!! Thanks for content Sir!!

[@johnshepherd6925]

😳 omg...ty so much..I can't wait to try this. I'm laying down watching this and I just gave it a whirl. I can definitely feel the difference 🤣😂

[@Swyfts]

One of the nicest most genuine people. Hope to get a disc signed by you one day. Much love from Long Beach 👊🏾

[@Kuhlyedascope69]

Scott i threw a beat up destroyer with this explanation 80ft farther than usual with half the effort thanks man

[@warcraftandcoffee2937]

Great explanation Scott! People these days online say to keep a loose throwing arm. While that is correct, you still need to guide it straight across your chest! The only way to do that while staying loose is to pull it!

[@NewEraMusic972]

I'm convinced after watching you play with Simon that you could hang with the best in the sport! Not to mention you are easily the best coach on youtube! Thanks for the tips!

[@mbsouthpaw8982]

Haha, I was just mentoring a younger player via FB messenger. They sent me a video and I was trying to say this exact thing to them because they were dropping their arm too much. Now I just sent them a link and said "do this exactly". Thanks bud. Par Infinity!!

[@Chris.Davies]

Thanks for the definitive video on backhand power-to-height ratio, Mr Stokely! I'm going to use this in my lessons, and I'm going to add resistance by holding the student's disc, so they can easily find their correct power height. I seem to recall there was a very impressive young guy who first broke the 200-metre, and then the 210-metre barrier waaaay back in 1998. He used to throw so hard his throwing arm would hit his own back, and it looked like he could dislocate a shoulder!

[@AppleKingFPV]

Thanks!

[@jerdonclar8655]

Thanks Scott! We really do appreciate your efforts. I'm getting so close to getting my timing on command.

[@damononthehill]

Wow. Explained so much better than all the other videos I've watched on proper form 🙏

[@tristinpowell1818]

I’ve always thought my pull through was much higher compared to others I’ve played with or watch so I tried pulling through from my stomach and never could get it to work it didn’t feel right I was having to put much more effort into my drives to get the same distance so this video really confirmed that my mechanics are right I just have a higher pull through naturally. Thanks a lot man you make this stuff so simple to understand

[@mpchammerful]

You are so freaking smart! I love your love of the game!

[@kludger82]

Thanks Scott! Changed my pull line higher by about 6 inches and immediately got more distance. Will fine tune this with some practice. I will also note I asked my trainer about the biomechanics of adjusting like this. He noted this is very valid as lifters have to alter their form based on body structure, longer torsos, longer femurs, etc require changes in lifting form

[@brucebrakel4051]

Thanks. This was very helpful. I've been struggling with learning how to throw offhand (permanent elbow injury) and this really increased my distance.

[@aj-li4ly]

Thanks for another great video! I’ve been trying to find some good videos on KZbin and so far I like yours the best!

[@jeremynewman5315]

When you said the lawnmower in the back of the truck made me realize my pull is to low. Thank you so much, i look forward to implementing this tomorrow on the feild and seeing the difference.

[@BaysingersDiscGolfChannel]

The amount of knowledge you share on disc golf is amazing. Also... I can't believe I haven't played that course!

[@benshuford2781]

Great explanation of most powerful positioning! Never really thought about it

[@AJoelInOne]

I've played that hole in Oggswood!

[@Pullapelle]

Razor sharp simple logic. Thank you, Scott!

[@jacobtyman3726]

I just started playing this summer and my biggest struggle has been getting consistently past 300’. I definitely think this will help, as I believe I was pulling across to high. Thanks for explaining this so clearly!

[@brooksy3069]

fantastic teaching, this itself works as a commercial for your lessons

[@justinmorris2814]

As you always say "It's simple but it's not easy."

[@Gumbo_Time]

I just played a round after watching this video, and not only was I throwing further more consistently, my angle control and accuracy were also significantly better. Thank you for this video

[@joeyanderson6994]

That was an eye opener! Thank you very much Scott!

[@jamesgregersen7299]

I love the keep it simple approach and how thorough your explanations are Scott. Thank you for another quick quality video!

[@JonOfTheDead23]

So elegant and simple. Thanks Scott. That was great

[@DrTomTaylor]

I could have been so much better sooner! You are one of the best teachers I’ve seen in the sport.

[@dylanl2258]

Good job dude. Nice work.

[@Geenimetsuri]

I think Scott's method of teaching throwing is absolutely fantastic - Always remember how you're built when throwing.

[@rogerjones332]

Brilliant teacher! Can't wait to practice this, thank you. 👍

[@roberthansen3211]

Good stuff. I'd like to say one thing about the "lawn mower" metaphor that I never liked, I feel people get too much into the "lawn mower" idea, and reach way too far back or down. I like your idea about a "mower on a truck," because this is much more accurate. It took me a while to stop "over" reaching back, which really messed up my footwork

[@Cad1900]

Perfect analogies and teaching strategies mr Scott!!! Thank you so much!!!!

[@ffsrekt]

Very nice, easily digestible tips. Good stuff, subbed.

[@davidturk5846]

Excellent tips.. I do lots of what you suggested and it really works... 😎✌️ thank you.

[@jazmarz]

Great advice for me as a beginner.

[@NickCarroll]

Great video! I'll be using it to help me dial in where best to try to pull my arm across the best, because I've been throwing from too low. I know you have different playlists for different aspects for form. You might mention them in your future videos to let people know they can watch them to dial in different aspects of their putts, throws, or game. You're great at distilling different components into coherent points, but I think people don't realize you've been painting a picture through all your videos. Anyhow, keep up the great work!

[@KnKPanda]

Wow! Can’t wait to try this out :) Thank you for keeping it simple! And yes, everyone is different! :D

[@benjaminsnyder3845]

Scott, loved the video and it's really helped me out. What do you think of players like sepo paju who have an extremely small reach back and yet throw 500 feet. What's the secret.

[@chadjacksonDG]

Great stuff Scott, I always love the way you explain technique. Great stuff bro👍

[@andreashoppe1969]

You remind me a bit of Michael Caine. I like your tutorials. Finally something I can understand

[@rubylong8897]

Love this! Funny enough, the lawn mower pull is exactly how I’ve taught new players along with the same verbiage of pull through🙌 The only other thing I add, when they’re ready to move on to stepping, is that it’s like the reverse of hitting a baseball: load the hips & swing through🥏⛓💥

[@triple_five_soul6439]

When I saw the cover photo for this video in your profile, my first thought was "that looks just like hole 7 at Oggwood". Them are my family there. Its all good at Oggwood!

[@kfbwizard]

Simple technique, but effective. Thanks Scott.

[@JustSomeHero]

Come to Canada mate, we need you

[@zacharyvelasquez6756]

Definitely be adding this of the training regimen

[@zacharyvelasquez6756]

Always heard that pull start a lawnmower bit but never sank in till here. Greatly appreciated bro

[@raymiller3965]

Another great tip. Keep them coming Scott.

[@bernan1]

one way to find the difference in power is grabbing a door frame at different heights where your back swing would be, then trying to (lightly) pull it through. It might give a more realistic feel of the power spots.

[@jordancollmann840]

Like the shirt. I wish they would have done more with Game of Throws. :( I am one of the Global Champions that participated and there was absolutely nothing to show for it sadly. I appreciate the pointers!

[@raymondvorndran4306]

BOUGHT YOUR BOOK BUDDY. VERY COOL. THANKS!

[@Two_Buck]

Another great tip.

[@leelijg2778]

Good teacher! Thank you Sensei!

[@bud3053]

Thanks! Super helpful!

[@TheEightfoldPath_]

Loving these lessons, just found your channel! I do have a small, err, weirdly specific question about the pull line though. My gf is having issues due to her very ladylike build, would you recommend going under or over the speed bumps (so to speak) both in terms of throwing length and more importantly risk of injury? She’s trying as good as she can but it’s always an arch to her throw, so consistency (or lack there of) is kinda demotivating for her, never mind the often nose up throws that instantly slow and fade the drivers and midrange down. Thanks again, best regards!

[@paulperry8515]

Thanks Scott. You're the man!!!

[@T91-n7j]

Scott, thanks for this insight dude!

[@professorb3744]

Haven’t started my hovering lawn mower in a while. I guess it’s not too different than my 5 foot tall one but I miss it the same. I’ve always heard to make a 90 degree angle with your lower and upper arm. Looks like what all the pros do too

[@jaynorris3631]

Another great vid. Thanks brother!

[@MoreDiscGolf]

Hey do you have any tips for creating more power with the not throwing hand on a backhand throw

[@joshuacarlin1427]

Brilliant!! Now I just need to get out and practice

[@CraftyCohorts]

A+++ thanks man!

[@jaxchambers7652]

Thx

[@jackofhearts1276]

This video helped me add about 50 feet almost instantaneously

[@lokinakor1]

lol game of throws Is it possible that the lawnmower pull analogy is flawed? I have long used this thinking, but it looks like all the longest throwers are relaxed and slow til the very end. I find that I can accelerate too quickly by pulling very hard at the beginning and it gets my timing off. I want to say a compound bow is the right sensation: hard to pull at first but easier as it goes. This aligns more with the gradual acceleration needed to finish faster than I start, not with how hard it is like the bow, but the speed correlates nicely. My hand gets too far ahead, so then I try to rush the footwork to catch up and it all goes to shit. My longest and most accurate throws come when I slow down my footwork, and only accelerate the disc to a medium-fast speed into the hit box. Then the explosiveness has more time to build up and I haven't rushed ahead of my positioning. If I get too fast too soon with the hand, I actually lose momentum at the end when I need it to be peaking. Other than the combination of all the factors that create the timing problem, my worst enemy is trying too hard too soon. Does this make sense?

[@DanRansom]

You are correct. The idea of initiating your throw with a lawnmower pull is an old school way of thinking of it. Go watch Ezra's latest video where he explains it perfectly and succinctly. Or watch Seppo Paju's form breakdown from this spring. They both start almost lazy, and where all the "power" comes from is timing and the spin of the hips all cracking the whip of the arm at the perfect release point. Seppo barely even reaches back and his release speed is out of this world because he uncoils his body so perfectly. Starting the lawnmower is not the right motion because it throws off the timing and leads to all sorts of other issues. (Though I do believe Scott's point about height the disc ejects from your chest at is correct, there is a powerful level, and a less powerful level.)

[@lokinakor1]

@@DanRansom I have and I agree, when I pull hard at the beginning, timing goes of the rails. I am thinking of the graph where one axis is power and one is time. The lawnmower pull style puts you on the graph starting at 0.0 and surging up sharply, but peaking way too soon and trailing off towards the end. The graph shape you want to be on builds more gradually at first and sharply goes up at the end where it can peak just before the point of release. Translating this from mental graph into mechanical reality is the hard part.

[@jessieshores4865]

It's worth pointing out that at no point did he say you should explode from a full pull back. Only saying WHERE the reach back should be. If you're power pocket is most effective at your mid chest, you wouldn't want to be reaching back at your knee caps. The lawn mower concept is to keep the pull line straight. I do think he is in error for not pointing out that FINDING your strongest point does not mean you should be fully accelerating from a full reach back though. I think his intent was to communicate the motion of the lawnmower start, and the logic of pull placement. Not to get people to literally throw like they are starting a lawnmower.

[@lokinakor1]

@@jessieshores4865 OK, I also used this analogy for years, only I imagine the lawnmower pulley system is just mounted to a tree for a more horizontal motion instead of pulling up from the ground.

[@DanRansom]

@@jessieshores4865 the entire concept of a lawnmower pull is flawed (or pulling in general). And Scott is definitely suggesting that the pull is where the power comes from. It is not, all the power comes from the timing and rotation of the body as it uncoils. A reach back is arguably the least important part of the entire process, and “pulling” is not what the correct movement at all. Go watch Ezras power pocket video, it explains it exactly. If you remove the rotation of the body from the equation, all the disc is doing is going into the chest and out of the chest like if you were putting. There is no pull along a line. Into the chest, out of the chest. The idea of teaching people to pull or use a lawnmower start is the foundation of many bad habits. It works for some players because they have also learned the timing aspect, but it is not the foundation of proper form. Rather, a fortunate coincidence but really only works because of great timing. Dave Dunipace explains how this works in the tip of the whip video, Seppo Paju explains it well in his form video, but Ezras power pocket video is the clearest explanation.

[@discgolfamateur2175]

Stupidly simple! A simple man as me understood this, good stuff!

[@PizzaGod]

As an old frisbee player, I have a problem throwing across my stomach, my best drives are when I concentrate and throw correctly.

[@egertpaat1620]

I`ve seen videos where they teach not to reach straight back, but slightly away - any comment on that?

[@da324]

Scott, it seems that you look backwards away from the target, where many other top players don't. Would you explain why that is? Thanks!

[@arekrobinson5228]

Next time your in Asheville, I’d pay for a lesson!

[@SomeoneElsesStory]

Not enough pros talk about our nipples being in different locations 🤣 Love learning from all of your content, new and old, Scott!

[@gaprofitt]

I've noticed I have a lot more power pulling across my core vs my chest.. This is opposite what he is saying. Any thoughts?

[@Hitto212]

The disc golf sensei

[@Yosser70]

Ok, I’m confused, so is it an actual pull? I’m new to all this and seen lots saying the arm shouldn’t be pulled through, it’s the rotation of the body that whips the arm through 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m guessing it’s a combination of the two but not sure.

[@TheBlindSquirrel70]

Scott, where can I get this polo that your wearing?

[@ScottStokelyDG]

www.michellustrations.com/game-of-throws

[@niilo2589]

Do you think Seppo Paju pulls the disc?

[@firozahmedsanullah8892]

I noticed its the level of your heart

[@jawsrocks7509]

Been playing about 2 weeks watched this video last night before today’s round. Went from max drive about 300 to hitting the green 400ft out 😱🙌 great advice

[@Unit_With_Legs]

And that is why also anhyzer tends to come out a few mph faster

[@MaxAfinogenov61]

This works?!?! I just ripped so hard I spun around and knocked everything on my dresser over.... From a stand still. I'm doing something wrong 😂

[@dboenish]

Truth

[@adamwolfgram9507]

Chubs to Happy Gilmore - "It's all in the hips." Scott Stokely to disc golfers - "It's all in the nipples."

[@TheDubsteck]

It's all in the nips*

[@matthewwilson3399]

I love most of Scott stokley's coaching videos, but for me personally I'm not accurate when I reach all the way back I lose track of my release..

[@johnfavalorojr.4169]

I just wish you would sign one of my mint condition 1995 X Clone. 😁

[@tmcmillan45]

Problem with this is pulling requires arm/shoulder strength. That's not was gives big distance. McBeth for example doesn't pull his arm, watch him throw, he throws his arm on an outward arc as his upper body (and hips turn) this causes the disc to rip out of his hand. Pulling with upper body using arm strength (like you're starting a lawn mower) requires, well...arm strength. There is a local kid, 13 years old, skinny as a rail. He doesn't have a lot of strength period. He also throws 400+ feet. I wish more disc golf "throw far" videos would get into the meat and potatoes of incorporating the hips and upper body rotation along with arm speed vs this lawnmower stuff.

[@jamesbenton4123]

It's all good in OggWood🎉

[@michaelburton7799]

I start lawn mowers every day at work. Hopefully I can apply this to my game

[@MR-hr5yh]

Ogg is the greatest. What'd you think?

[@ScottStokelyDG]

Love Oggwood! I made a video about it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqLHnKN5n5p5p8k

[@robinraphael]

I heard it's like starting a lawn mower that's up on a table that made a lot more sense and I stop shanking up so much all the beginning days almost every throw is so horrible it's a wonder why so many people make it past that stage one of my best friends Almost quit until I showed him how to do a pistol AKA forehand cuz his backhands atrocious he was going to quit but then he threw a forehand farther than I've ever thrown one on his first try

[@robinraphael]

thanks for the ❤ scott

[@spacedirtband]

" . . .our nipples are even in different places." So true, never thought of that.

[@SimonSomething]

I knew it... I always knew I was built different

[@Ron46143]

This analogy causes more bad habits than anything in disc golf. Somebody should tell Paul McBeth he's doing it wrong based on this analogy.