Prophet 6 vs Juno 6 (Part 1) - Includes Chorus Comparison

[@amplifier2]

My dad bought me a Juno-6 in 1982. Still have it.

[@Nosalez]

can I buy it off you? lol

[@hjhkjhre454554]

My Dad is shit

[@5dgisd528]

2:39 on the scope, you can see that the Juno-6 has two different BBD-lines for the chorus, which makes it so floating and gives it the movement.

[@Sound_ology]

Very interesting observation!

[@javiceres]

AFAIK it has only one delay line

[@ronnieaux5290]

Thank you SO MUCH for the chorus settings. I tried it out and I love it!! I've been wanting to make the Juno chorus on my Prophet and could never nail it (not even close). I dialed in your settings and it's extremely close. (Juno has always been my favorite synth mostly because of the chorus) :) Your channel is awesome, keep up the great work!

[@Sound_ology]

Awesome, thanks! I spent a pretty long time trying to match them up :) I love my Juno too, the chorus is undeniable! Lots of character

[@JonManness]

Thank you for sharing your chorus settings! I have the Trigon-6 with the same digital effects, and I was having such a tough time dialing in the Juno chorus settings. The sound from my synth is HUGE now!

[@Sound_ology]

Something about the Juno chorus just sounds right. The original chorus saturates, but with the trigon you can saturate really easily before the chorus stage so I bet it sounds even closer than on the P6

[@le-j-james7061]

thanks for the chorus setting! The both combine sounds really cool on my prophet!

[@Sound_ology]

Julien JAMES awesome idea!

[@AllenMichael]

You said it! I compared the p6 with the ob8 and I can pull the softest warmest string pad on the ob8 in 5 mins compared to p6 which would take me awhile.

[@auxorion]

You really have an excellent channel here. Hope to see much more

[@Sound_ology]

AUX ORION thanks a ton!

[@MusicZtorm]

Thanks ! Very interesting ! Waiting for part 2 :)

[@hjhkjhre454554]

You nailed it with the chest of gold Vs mining analogy.

[@kaiwetronic]

Love your Prophet 6 videos... I've got a Toraiz AS-1, and all your tricks for P6 programming are useful... Keep on showing us your tips...!!

[@Sound_ology]

Cool, thanks! Those Toraiz AS-1s are awesome!

[@kaiwetronic]

Waiting for part 2, part 3... ( and so on...) Thanx for your time...

[@javiceres]

I have the AS-1 too and it’s fantastic. Sheer class and big sweet spots. It’s a pitty the knobs don’t have secondary functions or that the “Vintage” feature of the last P6 firmware is unlikely to get implemented. The Toraiz helped me lots with my remorse for having to sell my Oberheim SEM Pro some years ago...

[@lattetown]

That's interesting! To my ears, the Juno had a slight detune in the decay of the chorus 2.

[@Seeattle]

so for the pads, the prophet is so clean in its sound but the "dirt" of the Juno give it this cool character. Id be torn too; for my uses I'd probably lean toward the Juno

[@tchip-bc1gp]

hello, do you think complete together ? look like you can do all juno stuff with P6 . im' p6 owner and just found a juno 60 to restore. Not sure i want to keep it after your video lol. i 'm gonna install tubuttec kit on it

[@Sound_ology]

Check out part 2 of this video, that’s where I show their main differences! The Juno does the basics better and has better chorus. But the p6 is more practical and does crazier stuff better

[@WHIPTY]

Wow these are shockingly close tbh, I expected a bigger difference in general sound

[@KordTaylor]

Thanks for your great videos. Any thoughts or other videos with Juno vs. Rev 2? Love to hear that.

[@Sound_ology]

I don’t own a rev 2, but I think the chorus is the same. I think it’s edge over the Juno is just that it’s multitibral. As far as the sound, I felt like it was just slightly less natural sounding than the P6 when I tried them out back-to-back. Great synth though, if I hadn’t gotten to try out the P6 next to it I would have bought one

[@KordTaylor]

Was there some velocity use in Prophet bass patch? Was wondering as the Juno seemed to hit harder but that could be due to no velocity capabilities.

[@Sound_ology]

The velocity affected the filter, but not the amp. Also I think that Prophet patch is with 2-oscillators, so phasing could be making some notes sound fatter and thinner. The Juno is a sick bass synth though, I agree there’s a violence to its sound that the Prophet doesn’t have

[@javiceres]

@@Sound_ology I try by syncing OSCs in those cases, sometimes works well.

[@RobFlaxMusic]

Thoughts on the Prophet's keybed feel? I'm looking to buy a polysynth that will double as a midi controller for other things, and wonder if the Prophet's keys feel good enough for that, or if I should just invest in a fancy controller and keep the engine stuff separate.

[@Sound_ology]

The prophet's keybed is straight up the best synth keyboard I've ever played. I've played others that I felt like were equally nice, like the Moog One, but it definitely beats the Juno 6 Keyboard, it beats my old Arturia Keylab...it leaves nothing to be desired for synth work. I wouldn't recommend it for playing piano though; piano just doesn't feel right without weighted keys. I usually use my SV-1 when practicing for that reason.

[@javiceres]

@@Sound_ology Thanks for the info 👌🏼

[@TorturedBanana]

perfect video .especially when u did ur view at the end , i agree

[@yew2533]

Love your videos mate ! Tempted to buy a prophet 6 ! Watchin your videos isn’t helping the bank account 😂. ♥️♥️

[@Sound_ology]

haha!

[@yew2533]

Synthetic World 859 update . I purchased a prophet 6 shortly after my comment ! You should earn a commission! Seriously ... no jokes I did buy one :):) love it ❤️❤️❤️

[@sagesliverpinksage834]

@@yew2533 can u sell it to me for cheap? Its really expensive

[@javiceres]

@@yew2533 it sounds stupidly good.

[@ObKling]

I've always wanted a Juno and keep checking the used prices. Are there differences in sound between the 60 and 6?

[@Sound_ology]

I haven't played a Juno 60! Only a Juno 6 and Juno 106. The 6 is definitely bigger than the 106, but they both sound awesome obviously. I love sweeping the HPF on my Juno 6, and I don't think you can do that on the 60, but that's the only difference in sound I'm aware of.

[@ObKling]

Synthetic World 859 Yeah, when I see them up close, I’m always surprised how big they are. Don’t know if I can afford the space footprint, let alone the price.

[@helisoma]

i know the reply is late but i got a Juno-6 recently and i've read or heard from different sources that the low end is a bit more raw and fatter on the Juno-6 than on a Juno-60 but just a bit...?

[@Lagspike99]

Suuuch a good video. what are your thoughts on the OB-6? Sorry if youve been asked this 1000 times..

[@Sound_ology]

The OB-6 sounds just as good as the Prophet 6, and even better at times. It can be a little more vibey, and in my opinion it has a slightly more desirable character in a sci fi kind of way. I’d give the OB-6 my highest recommendation without a doubt.

[@edenhunter9904]

Not really a fair comparison.The Juno was under a $1000 when it was released and the Prophet significantly more. I regard the Juno as an excellent beginners synth while the P6 is for someone who knows a bit more about synthesis ...

[@Sound_ology]

I like this line of reasoning, but googling inflation rates is telling me that $1,000 in 1982 equals $2,771 in 2021, so the prices seem comparable for their times.

[@gforce7four]

Original 1982 price $1795.00 USD. Perfectly comparable

[@itsdrawkcab5899]

What synth was used on the outro?

[@Sound_ology]

The Juno is is on the arps and the Prophet is the lead line

[@Fishoilification]

the juno sounds alot more square wavey

[@Sound_ology]

yeah especially when it's a single note being played

[@merchannel7762]

You called it with P6 chorus 2 being better than the Juno’s.

[@spurv]

I owned the Prophet 6 for years. Eventually sold it. To me, the Juno is kinda alive. The Prophet is not. I'm sure the Prophet is the better synth, if you look at an oscilloscope. Dave Smith is a great engineer. However, I missed the warbliness, slight distortion, and overall personality of the Juno.

[@Sound_ology]

Fair enough, if I learned anything from making these comparison videos, it's that if you want the Juno sound, you need a Juno. And a vintage one! I disagree that the Prophet isn't alive, but I get what you mean. It could never replace my MS-20, for example.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

I agree with the assessment. I’d still prefer to own a Prophet 6. There’s way more that you can do with it. The Jupiter Xm is all the Juno I would need.

[@Sound_ology]

The Jupiter Xm looks awesome! The sequencer looks crazy

[@donartyone3258]

Yeah that Xm sounds pretty much identical to the 106. Plus you get much more out of it.

[@ELEKTROGOWK]

The P6 sounds for me also fatter. Very nice!!!!

[@Sound_ology]

Elektro GOWK agreed!! Although recently I’ve found the Juno-6 a little easier to fit into a mix because it’s a little thinner

[@M3333C]

@@Sound_ology how significant is is? I do alot of processing and eq on every sound in general but is the juno like significantly easier to fit into a mix?

[@Sound_ology]

@@M3333C it’s not significant, they both fit into a mix very well. I rarely need to EQ either instrument, and if I do, it’s generally because of small errors in sound design. Like maybe the filter was a little bit too open so I have to lop off the top end a little or something like that. If you layer a bunch of p6 patches you might find the need to cut your mids but really the issue is with your arrangement in that case, it can be totally avoided by just playing your different parts in different octaves or using the high pass filter.

[@M3333C]

@@Sound_ology i would imagine you need to eq a fair amount, especially in the low mid range, for any polysynth used for chords

[@Sound_ology]

@@M3333C Actually I usually don't need to, you can avoid it almost entirely by using the right voicings. Any doubled notes are likely going to be an issue down the road, so rootless voicings really help, and open voicings can make a big difference too.

[@YonatanLidar]

Prophet 6 is a better investment. Juno 60 will cost you when the voice chips needs to be replaced once worn out.

[@javiceres]

Everyone sell your Prophets to buy Junos now.

[@officialhernancortes]

P6 is much smoother

[@Miromarkus]

your juno 6 is slightly out of tune, probably 5-10 cents below the prophet!

[@Sound_ology]

Ooh I didn’t notice, you must have mega ears!

[@javiceres]

and then it varies form voice to voice, I’d guess...

[@palewine]

Yeah I noticed that too

[@Deatg-ek8rf]

Roland only wins by a hair on the chorus, just get a boss pedal and be done with it. In every other way Sequential destroy Roland including build quality.