The Armor of God is Stupid

[@andrewede7154]

To a person with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To a Christian in armour with a sword, everyone looks like an enemy.

[@VictoriousCatholic]

As opposed to what: some wussy, wishy-washy, spineless, gutless, mealy-mouthed fool who can’t stand up to evil?

[@madamsloth]

Well said

[@deadboyzX8]

This is good. I like this

[@kevinlitton1399]

Also, when you have armor and a shield, everything looks like a sword.

[@tripolarmdisorder7696]

Too bad that Zod's sword of truth and logic has a monumentally sharper edge and can cut through the Christian armor of faith.

[@thedriedge24]

It's interesting how once you've been out of christianity for awhile, things that were previously normal now seem so twisted. When he said "we're all deserving of death" in that gentle, reassuring voice of his, I inwardly shuddered. No matter how much someone tells you that because of Jesus you are forgiven and seen as righteous, you have still received the message that on your own, you are human garbage. God may see Jesus when he's looking at you, but basically they're telling you that you're still garbage, just covered with a pretty table cloth so god doesn't have to see the real you. Their message isn't as encouraging and uplifting as they think it is.

[@mattpeters4700]

1000 times this.

[@A-WallfromAL]

Yes! I didn’t realize until just recently how often unbelievers/outsiders are referred to (metaphorically) as some type of garbage: weeds to be pulled up and discarded, chaff to be burned, dishes that God can break at his leisure. It’s disturbing. 🤨

[@apimpnamedslickback5936]

A billion times this. Exactly how I feel the longer It gets. These seemingly normal phrases now sound more and more deranged. All these previously “nice” apologists now seem all so arrogant and condescending(sometimes racist and sexist even). It’s a real eye opener to how complicated the human mind is and how quickly things can change.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

Especially when one casually mentions how everyone else is screwed. I can't imagine being so content with that.

[@noxplay4906]

As a Christian who agrees with the intellectual dishonesty and lack of nuance involved in teaching kids to believe all of this without thorough explanation and allowing the children to make up their own minds, I don't see an issue with this. As a believer, I believe humans are inherently flawed and imperfect, and we have all done things that have earned us death. The wages of sin is death, and we've all sinned, but the point of Jesus's sacrifice is that he paid the bail for those sins and if we accept him we'll be forgiven and have a chance to become better people. I am of the view that you only see this as harmful because you are prideful and you find admitting to yourself how flawed you truly are to be deeply disturbing, which is understandable, but I guess I'm comfortable enough with the darker sides of myself to accept it and try to be better, without getting too down about it. Not saying that you're the opposite of me in that regard, just my view

[@TheJimtanker]

One piece of armor that they forgot is the Codpiece of Gullibility.

[@jeremysmetana8583]

The buttplate of "thank you sir, may I have another?"

[@vestafreyja]

Don't forget your magic underwear.

[@TheJimtanker]

@@vestafreyja I think that only applies if you’re Mormon.

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

That’s for when Satan is “kicking against the pricks.” (Acts 9:5).

[@vestafreyja]

@@TheJimtanker You are correct however I think every bit of protection should be used.

[@PyrrhicPax]

The Bible makes God sounds like a sadistically abusive father

[@raoulduke2727]

Because he is if he’s real. He ruined Job’s life over a bet.

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

To be fair, he got off to a bad start in the origin story. It wasn't as if there was a manual for raising humans, or anyone to rely on for good advice at the time. Nobody's perfect.

[@PyrrhicPax]

@@raoulduke2727 that's only in later versions of the story. In the original version, Satan never appears to make a bet with Yahweh about Job. In the original version, Job just loses everything, and Satan doesn't appear at all. The original script was a parable about how bad things happen to good people , and god just isn't able to intervene in everything because he's so busy building the universe. (And "God" explains this when he finally confronts Job at the end of the parable) But later scholars twisted the story to become a gamble between God and Satan because they preferred to portray God and as omnipotent judge and not as a impotent creator.

[@RandyWinn42]

Just ask Abraham's kid about that. "Dad, why are you trying to kill me?" "God said so". "Well, ok"

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

​@@raoulduke2727to some degree I don't even give a crap about job, I feel bad for the first set of wives and children that died and were replaced like scraps for one man's faiths and a gods vanity.

[@Faint366]

Holy crap! He said the quiet part out loud! “The reason the belt of truth is the first piece is that if you don’t already believe that the word of god is true then the rest won’t make sense.” How can anyone say this without realizing what they just said? He literally says none of Christianity makes sense unless you start by setting aside your ability to think for yourself and just believe it all no matter how little sense it makes. Amazing!

[@nope19568]

there were members of jonestown that actively boo'd a woman (im totally blanking on her name for some reason) after she said that they shouldn't kill the kids and themselves, she got shot, cultists scare the fuck out of me edit-her name was Christine Miller

[@david77james]

Faint - your comment is not based on knowledge, but on rejection of the need for EVERY human mind to carefully examine THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN LIFE, which is the need for everyone to first realize that not even science can explain the reason for our existence, nor for the existence of ANY of the miracles that surround us. Your eventual loss of eternal life shall be based NOT on what you did, but on what you did NOT examine, when it was available while you lived on earth. 3,000 MILLION electrical shocked heart pumps in an average lifetime, but you think - "uhhh, duhhhh, dat's no big deal, I mean, dats just da way da body is." You shall be WITHOUT EXCUSE in your day, NOT because you needed to DO SOMETHING to earn or deserve eternal life & forgiveness of sins, and did not, but because you rejected the FREE GRACE GIFT of God, which they ARE! THINK. .

[@joelharvey579]

Revelation 21:4 New International Version 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[a] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” To what depths must we go to discover the nature of the human soul. This place is temporary, and even though you feel like these things are cruel and maybe they are for now, but when given eternal life and no suffering, these things will act as a reminder into eternity the love God has for us is so great that it literally wipes away all the suffering you can imagine, I know it’s terrible but these things we must understand in order to appreciate the gift that we will receive. The fact of the matter is you do not know everything you are not God we may think things are horrible and they are to us, but in the end, they will all be made right

[@Radioposting]

Isn't there also a *Lasso of Truth?* Oh wait, that's *Wonder Woman.*

[@Ponera-Sama]

The virgin Yahweh vs. The chad Zeus

[@quasijoe8126]

She does kill gods.

[@andreywonttell4016]

@@quasijoe8126 Its easy to kill gods with "a lasso of truth". =))

[@josephtaylor4405]

I think she's done it at least once.

[@andresacosta4832]

​@@andreywonttell4016Wisdom of Athena and all that--oh wait.

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

Fundamentalists: We need to take the Bible LITERALLY! Someone: Ok, when do I get given my holy armour and weapons for attacking naysayers? Fundamentalists: No, that's a metaphor.

[@donaldnumbskull9745]

Who puts on their belt first? What he means is the underpants of truth!

[@nmappraiser9926]

Gird your loins!

[@DM_Hazen]

Going commando for god.

[@lesliejohnson4339]

Mormans know to put magic underwear on first.

[@madamsloth]

Mormans have entered the chat 😂

[@JWK1101]

In fairness, based on the depiction, its probably supposed to be a Cingulum Militaire, which doesn't hold up your clothes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cingulum_militare

[@paulsmart4672]

If some drunks killed my friend, then I wouldn't at all be tempted by revenge because no they didn't. My friend is well and unharmed because in this analogy I am omnipotent and things contrary to my desires can not occur.

[@pesilaratnayake162]

After all, God needed them in heaven, or something to that effect. Maybe the drunks have to find their way to God. It's all part of His plan, so there is no need for us to have wrath.

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@pesilaratnayake162 and i guess the subtler question would be how could there be a need for an omnipotent deity to have wrath? 🤔

[@sashablueperson]

My mom used to pray the armor onto me whenever she dropped me off somewhere "scary." It could be visitation with my father, secular school, or anything medical. I figured out early that she was just using it as a ritual to soothe herself. Guess I never got the full message or context of the armor.

[@mikehart5619]

Like on BBT or Young Sheldon when his mom prays a "hedge of protection" around them. It's a ritual that makes you feel like you are doing something so you don't go screaming crazy and look, the tornado missed us so it worked.

[@quantumlogix7209]

It was, washing the blood of Jesus over me. 🫣

[@sobertillnoon]

Shouldn't truth be the pants? Who puts on a belt first???? Edit: Wait, there are no pants‽ Satan, quick, go for the legs! They're unprotected from the belt to the boots!

[@pesilaratnayake162]

It looks like Roman swordsmen didn't wear pants. The basic ones had no leg protection. If you could afford it or maybe if your rank was high enough (speculation) then you might have armoured skirt and/or shin guards, but in this analogy only the religious leaders would have that. What with tithing and all. But I guess any believer could get Tonya Harding'd if they let their guard down!

[@mr.c2485]

That’s some funny sh*t! 😅

[@NotGoodAtNamingThings]

+1 just for good use of the interrobang!

[@james-russellgause4735]

Oh yeah, Satan's hopping all over everything below the belt!

[@Bangin0utWest]

Lots of broken legs coming 😂😂

[@unsilencedderp9411]

fuck the sword I have the halberd of science

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GumSkyloard]

Nah. I have Newton's Flaming Laser Sword. (actual term, look it up!)

[@Krikenemp18]

Polearms > swords

[@DM_Hazen]

It's got a slashy end and a stabby end, it's a miracle!

[@noxplay4906]

As a Christian who accepts modern science, I prefer the sword of Jesus but the halberd of science is a close second

[@billiwickey]

I've been in a situation similar to Leo's drunk driver killing a friend, I wanted the driver to get treatment. He ran a stop sign going 72 mph on a country road and if I hadn't turned toward his truck, he would have slammed into my 2 oldest kids on the passenger side. As it was I ended up in hospital for 3 months with a broken back, neck and a collapsed lung, paralyzed from the waist down. My kids were basically uninjured, a cracked molar and a 4 stitch cut on the index finger, so I didn't care about much else except making sure the medical bills and car would be covered. Of course, the insurance companies had to fight everything. By the time the court cases were getting close to settlement, the drunk had died from alcohol related illnesses. The insurance company attorney wanted me to go after the estate but I refused. The drunk had 2 minor children and going after his estate would punish them. At the time I was in the process of deconverting so I called myself a christian humanist and punishing children for the "sins of the father" went against everything I believed about justice. That was 30 years ago. I have a good life, my kids are married with amazing kids and I was able to be at every one of the big and lots of the small events in all their lives. The drunk's kids and their kids don't have any family to be there for them. That's heartbreaking to me.

[@rogerrinkavage]

It sounds like you've had plenty of time to process this, but wow I imagine that was a hard mindset to come to. Like zod said, I want to want to react without malice but it's still hard to imagine doing that in such a painful situation. Props to you though! Best wishes on your family and theirs

[@blondequijote]

​@rogerrinkavage try reacting with malice enough times and you'll realize that it doesn't feel good to maintain that level of anger. There's better uses for emotional energy,.

[@branthlysauveur359]

Wow!! That was trullyyyyy kind of you sir. Some Christians would have saw his death as an act of God and that getting his estate was a will of God. That’s just so wow.

[@Specialeffecks]

An amazing example of a decent human. Glad you didn't adopt the horrible and vengeful attitude of this preacher.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

🙏❤️

[@oldschoolman1444]

God, the abusive parent! You are broken so worship me now, or else!

[@soriac2357]

...and you are such a bad person, you deserve every punishment, but I only give you some punishment, because I love you. Although you don't deserve my love at all, always remember that! Yes, totally not abuse! 😅

[@greganderson2239]

Lmao 🤣 🤣

[@andrewferg8737]

13 is a difficult age.

[@david77james]

old - That's a statement based upon willful ignorance, since every normal human mind is charged with the responsibility to seek the reason for their existence, and the miracles that keep every human alive. Millions of intelligent people, including many thousands of PhDs have diligently sought to know the TRUTH of God, and were THEREFOR LED BY GOD to His TRUTH, merely because they critically examined the "possibility" or "likelihood" of a Creator God. Rejection of God results in His rejection of the rejecters, up to the moment of "their brief time to stand before Him". 3,000 MILLION consecutive electrically shocked heart pumps in an average lifetime "just happen"? How many miracles do you ignore, just because you don't want to waste time learning about the Creator of those miracles? Brilliant. .

[@david77james]

OLD - Your fake take is BROKEN and you lash out at The God Who offers eternal life BASED ON RECEIVING His Grace GIFT of eternal life! Why do you reject it, unless you don't want it? Pretty simple, oh simpleton! Don't want it? Then why try to interest others who DO want it? Are you the master of the world, oh brilliant one, or just a wannaBE??? .

[@Cat_Woods]

I used to work with a geologist whose wife was a YEC. I found out how crazy she was at an office party, and while I was pointing out the flaws in her understanding of earth's history, he used the "armor of God" quote to shut down the discussion. I've never been sure whether he could possibly, as a working geologist, believe the YEC nonsense, but the "armor of God" comment definitely stopped the conversation. That, I think, is its purpose. It enabled him to not consider the contradiction between his scientific knowledge and his wife's nutty beliefs. It also cast me as some kind of ambassador of the devil, which is pretty stupid.

[@tinkercat8268]

I encounter that a lot with my YEC family members. They get verbally violent about it, too. What’s fascinating is they recognize the BITE model to identify cults but don’t realize that they are guilty of a LOT of the identifiable descriptions. I’ve been following a LOT of the protests against Scientology, mostly those who are former Scientologists, and every one of them say “I never knew I was in a cult until I was declared a suppressive person and forced to leave and was disassociated from everyone I’ve known my entire life. Then I learned about the history of my religion because I didn’t have the church to control what my education was, THAT’S when I learned I grew up in a destructive cult.” Fundamentalist Christians like to burry their heads on the sand much the same way. And it’s all fear-based manipulations.

[@Cat_Woods]

​@@tinkercat8268 I've noticed that people who got out of one cult don't always realize they're in another one, especially if the new cult is much more popular. 😀 Sorry about your family. That sounds hard.

[@tinkercat8268]

@@Cat_Woods you’re super sweet and use cats unite but honestly by comparison to others I’m super good

[@nondescriptcat5620]

precisely. "the armor of god" is a thought-terminating cliche.

[@blondequijote]

Muslims use a prayer rug whereever they go so they don't literally stick their head in the sand multiple times a day. Armor of God sounds more like sticking their heads in the sand figuratively

[@kfjw]

They forgot about the Halberd of Hypocrisy and the Poignard of Prejudice!

[@edwardmiessner6502]

And the sicarius (pocket dagger) of character assassination!

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

Don't forget the Codpiece of Credulity!

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT also handy to keep the coins for the collection plate in.

[@andrewferg8737]

"Hypocrisy and Prejudice!"---- Right? I just hate those stupid religious people. Why can't they be more tolerant and less hypocritical, like us atheists?

[@sbushido5547]

I was especially annoyed by his ridiculous """"justice"""" segment. It implies (or even outright states) that we're all as bad as some drunk driver in a car who just murdered someone. Except somehow infinitely more so because something something 'god is infinite therefore it's infinitely worse when we offend him.' And all for the crime of...existing...as *_*he*_* supposedly made us. It's insane, and incredibly dehumanizing. I don't know... I guess it seems strange to fixate on this, since the whole "none are good" nonsense is so baked-in to Christian thinking.

[@templargfx]

Roman tower shields most definitely did not interlock. They were so tall that attacking above or below the shield was impossible, so the soldiers spaced themselves out so that there was a gap between each of them large enough to stab through

[@thomasjames6680]

And the Tetsudo formation was not entirely impregnable. Some North African tribes flung hornets nests into it. The Celts would salmon leap into it, knock a hole in it, and start swinging. So, the Hornets Nest of Facts, and the Angry Celt of Evidence can thwart the Armour of God.

[@Bob-b7x6v]

Hearts are for pumping blood, brains are for thinking.

[@greenakutabi]

God actually becomes more unhinged when you consider that he has a strong visceral reaction to every sin and he knew beforehand that sin was going to happen. The reason humans have a strong reaction to tragedy is that in most cases we're caught off guard. We never saw it coming. God knows the sin is coming and still wants to kill you every time you do it even though he knew better than you what you were going to do. He's an insane character.

[@r0cketm00se3]

The idea of a tri-omni god having any emotion at all makes no sense, we only have emotions as reactions to our environment. Not only did he supposedly create all that exists (outside of space and time, and all that) but since he wasn't formed by an environment as he created all of them, there should be a complete lack of emotion. God having emotions shows that he was invented by men, since men gave him emotions that only we would logically have.

[@bethanywalker5346]

19:45 A definition of anger that helped me immensely in therapy is this: it shows when one of your boundaries was crossed. Eg, My mother tried to play matchmaker with my love life. She lied to my boyfriend to try to get us to break up so she can pair me with someone else. Now, not all boundaries we have are reasonable. Im driving in a 35 mph zone and i really want/need to get home, so i feel entitled to go faster. Then someone goes dangerously fast, cuts me off, and makes me miss my light. One is a reasonable boundary, the other is not. Yet i was just as angry, if not more so, at the latter. I had no idea how to identify or express emotion and constantly let my boundaries get violated. Letting myself feel the anger was an amazing tool to help identify boundaries and calmly assess them.

[@christianhohenstein1422]

The part about gods wrath created a picture in my mind I wanted to share: Toddler with superpowers

[@MrDalisclock]

This describes Yahweh in much of the Bible extremely well.

[@james-russellgause4735]

That kid from The Twilight Zone.

[@blondequijote]

I know kids can be little jerks, but comparing Bible God to a toddler is more misanthropic than it is anti-theist.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

My toddler is a sweetheart. He would never want to kill whole people groups.

[@YiFan-q6f]

manchild is maybe more appropiate

[@GodlessGranny]

Yep, definitely heard sword is only offensive weapon in the armor for years. Not true though. The shield can be a weapon too.

[@bob38028]

Indeed- even in conventional warfare the shield is an excellent bludgeoning weapon. It’s a large distributed force that can be used to break down the defenses of others. It all loops back around to the predatory nature of the great commission.

[@CookiesRiot]

And the Roman armor with these overlapping shields frequently had two small spears (pila), often used as a projectile before melee combat. Interestingly, they were designed specifically to embed into enemy shields and bend upon impact so they couldn't be pulled out and chucked back, and this would often make the enemy shield a hindrance enough to be discarded and leave a gap in their defense.

[@darwinskeeper421]

I thought that only applied to Steve Rodgers.

[@Nocturnalux]

Goes to show Christians in the States did not grow up with Saint! Seiya!!!!!!

[@pesilaratnayake162]

In the absence of a shield, a frying pan can also work both offensively and defensively. Also some helmets, and a belt can be used for flogging, or to access you batarang and grappling hook!

[@kariannecrysler640]

15:05 Justice is not vengeance. The initial gut punch emotions, cloud judgments, making them prone to unjust choices. God’s inability to choose without emotion and do the fair logical thing, shows the vengeful nature of the character. Not just.

[@Hailfire08]

For the one who administers punishment nothing is so unfitting as anger, since punishment is all the better able to work reform if it is bestowed with judgement. This is the reason Socrates says to his slave: "I would beat you if I were not angry." The slave's reproof he postponed to a more rational moment; at the time it was himself he reproved. Will there be any one, pray, who has passion under control, when even Socrates did not dare to trust himself to anger? - Seneca, _On Anger_

[@kariannecrysler640]

@@Hailfire08 most folks don’t bother to learn themselves well enough to know the difference

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

God's a narcissist made up by narcissists who claimed to be sent by him so they could have all power as the "anointed" king or prophet or tribe leader or revolutionary or grifter "disciple"/appointed "shepherd" of a church.

[@mistylover7398]

Or evil gawd

[@redsneakers10]

The Old Testament Hebrew does not have a word for "justice" like it does for "vengeance." There is "judgment" (mishpat), which is often translated as "justice," though the word doesn't carry any moral connotations. "Justice" would be rendered something like a "righteous judgment" (as in Deuteronomy 16:18). The mistranslation of "mishpat" gives the impression in English of a God much more concerned with doing right than the Hebrew actually tells us.

[@Eric_01]

I'll never understand why xtians are so impressed with god's wrath. It's such a human emotion, like Zod said, a product of human weakness. It really just shows even more that all of god's attributes are nothing more than human, because when made up/invented by humans, what other ideals could they even conjure? That a xtian's entire existence becomes how to merely evade this wrath, and then spend eternity with this being?! And then to consider that his wrath is aimed at a human condition that HE CURSED US WITH. It's all just so dumb.

[@madtabby66]

Gods mad at us because….. He put creatures incapable of understanding good/bad and got mad they didn’t know good/bad. He got so mad that he decided to wipe out all the evil humans but missed one that brought evil forward. Got mad at his prophet so made his people spend 40 years on what according to google maps would be a 7 day walk. Okay, let’s even give them 14 since they’re carrying everything and having to break camp every day. Etc etc etc. But it’s all my fault somehow.

[@Dr_Cigarettes]

I grew up being afraid/suspicious of anyone outside of the church. (This included Christians from other denominations.) The constant refrain of "the world" being lost and "the culture" being a corrupting force led me to keep my distance from non-Christians, and probably prevented a fair number of friendships. Even after years of being out of that environment, and years of not being a Christian, I still find myself falling into that in-group vs. out-group mentality, though it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.

[@madtabby66]

Maybe I’m lucky. The people within my church scared the crap out of me.

[@themattylee]

Love the idea that Roman shields had little Lego studs so they could all connect together.

[@RandyWinn42]

Yea, Leo is straight-up lying there. Roman shields did NOT have interlocking features - it's not on any surviving shields, contemporary images of shields, or accounts of battles. It is a stupid idea. But most of all ... Leo knows he is saying something untrue. That makes him a LIAR! And if he is happy to lie about that ... what else is he lying about?

[@andyf4292]

well, looking at the Roman shield it's what us brits call 'bollocks', and a sword is NOT armour

[@PokemonRules333]

Who would actually think that a sword is armor? Anyone who has ever seen a sword or used a sword either in video games or in real life knows that a sword is a weapon you can’t use a sword as armor

[@michaelswain2076]

Zod, this video hits close to home. These passages were a huge part of my childhood

[@theinternetman1]

Was Bibleman a part of your childhood?

[@mr.c2485]

The Bible says….when you become a man, you put childish things aside.

[@michaelswain2076]

@@theinternetman1 i dont remember Bibleman. My mom was more charismatic... She spoke in tongues and believed in spiritual warfare.

[@theinternetman1]

@@michaelswain2076 you would remember bibleman. Same as veggie tales, it sticks with you

[@utubepunk]

It's the Fisher Price _My First Cult Kit._ Awwww.

[@earlt.7573]

🤣😝😜

[@hossmcgregor3853]

In Leo's drunk driver scenrio, only the driver is at fault. Assuming one of the passengers wasn't grabbing the wheel or something like that

[@nio804]

The passengers would have some responsibility for allowing the drunk person to drive if they had the ability to stop it.

[@madtabby66]

Yep. Sad thing is most of them aren’t that repentant even in court. In my uncles case the witness felt more guilty than the drunk.

[@stoosies]

I love these videos that take a really basic, prolific basic concept and shines a light on his insidious it is

[@jrpence]

The armor of god always feels like the bonus accessory you'd get for an action figure. Sort of an afterthought of an afterthought. The shoehorned way of trying to make it significant leads me to think it's trying to force impressive imagery without anything impressive to base it on.

[@harveybernstein9203]

Someone out there with a channel should make a video called “The Armor of Zod”. Use pro-atheist quotes from the Prophet. It can be used as a lesson for fighting off apologists.

[@autobotstarscream765]

The Prophet should do it for maximum authenticity.

[@joelharvey579]

Revelation 21:4 New International Version 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[a] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” To what depths must we go to discover the nature of the human soul. This place is temporary, and even though you feel like these things are cruel and maybe they are for now, but when given eternal life and no suffering, these things will act as a reminder into eternity the love God has for us is so great that it literally wipes away all the suffering you can imagine, I know it’s terrible but these things we must understand in order to appreciate the gift that we will receive. The fact of the matter is you do not know everything you are not God we may think things are horrible and they are to us, but in the end, they will all be made right

[@thedeebo410]

No one asked, no one cares, Joel.

[@davidchess1985]

"God's not upset! He was upset, and was so full of wrath that he was going to kill you, but then he killed his son / himself instead, so now he's not upset any more! Which isn't at all insane!"

[@Ponera-Sama]

"God has wrath towards all the unrighteousness." Isn't wrath a sin?

[@hackman669]

Hold mirror 🪞

[@Ponera-Sama]

Good idea, use it to reflect God's attacks back at him

[@archapmangcmg]

Helmet of Salvation sounds exactly like Tinfoil Hat.

[@kellydalstok8900]

Keeps the conspiracy theories in and reality out.

[@fantomx11]

The armor of God never landed with me as a kid. I tried to figure out how salvation was like a helmet, or righteousness was like a breastplate, etc. I couldn't find any way to connect them, so I concluded it was a cute metaphor, but not anything more.

[@narellepayne1455]

The car accident analogy feels "off". Most people in the position of the surviving friend in that situation, along with anger, would be feeling all sorts of ither emotions such as guilt and angst about the decisions and events that led to to it... all the if onlys, like maybe we should have left earlier/later, walked a different way etc My point is, if we as such "sinful" humans feel compelled to examine our decisions and actions when these kinds of bad situations happen, how come God's default response is always wrath? Does he ever angst about and question his own decision in making us capable of "sin"? Or is he somehow just certain he got it all right? Sorry, I don't think that I am articulating this well but there is something in the analogy that is not sitting right with me, but I am still processng it. Great video POZ!

[@kariannecrysler640]

The whole “enemy”…. Left undefined & constantly referenced to make the armor wearer’s fear

[@kellydalstok8900]

The way to subjugate people is to keep them in constant fear. Just look at right-wing leaders and their othering and fear mongering about “caravans of foreigners approaching the border”.

[@yalaxyun]

The enemy is defined. Ephesians 6:11-12 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

[@yalaxyun]

You and your like-minded community need to read the Bible, you are being lied to and you lie to yourselves.

[@kariannecrysler640]

@@yalaxyun but all created is from god, so the negativity is god too

[@yalaxyun]

@@kariannecrysler640 Possibly, I'm not well trained with God's character.

[@ZenWithKen]

Layers of armor, pfffft, more like layers of guilt.

[@l0rf]

Guilt and control. Everyone outside of the congregation is against you at best and a literal messenger of the devil at worst. And yet they believe to have a direct, personal connection to the all-powerful and loving creator of the universe. It must be terrible to live in fear of everything while believing to be saved.

[@joelharvey579]

Revelation 21:4 New International Version 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[a] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” To what depths must we go to discover the nature of the human soul. This place is temporary, and even though you feel like these things are cruel and maybe they are for now, but when given eternal life and no suffering, these things will act as a reminder into eternity the love God has for us is so great that it literally wipes away all the suffering you can imagine, I know it’s terrible but these things we must understand in order to appreciate the gift that we will receive. The fact of the matter is you do not know everything you are not God we may think things are horrible and they are to us, but in the end, they will all be made right

[@ZenWithKen]

@@joelharvey579 Okay. You keep dreaming and I'll see reality and our death for what it is. Enjoy it while it lasts brother, this is your only shot.

[@gmontezuma6770]

I remember about a decade and a half ago, when I was a Christian, I performed the children’s story, which was part of church service. That day, I used visual aides, plastic armor from my infant son’s Halloween costume. I dressed this four year old child in the armor and everyone thought it was so cool, children and adults alike. I was applauded and felt great about doing a good job. Now that I realize that I was actually indoctrinating children… when they say ignorance is bliss… so true!

[@liska_dae]

I was raised Roman Catholic, and don't remember ever being told about the armor of god.

[@darkworldkrisdreemurr]

Same. Raised Catholic and never heard of this lol

[@happytofu5]

Me neither, and I grew up evangelical-lutheran in germany. Maybe its a thing of US evangelicals?

[@madtabby66]

Yeah chatted with a Catholic friend a month ago. He was horrified by fundamentalist teachings.

[@_Sloppyham]

I just now saw it for the first time in my Southern Baptist church the other week, I didn’t know it was like a well known thing

[@crucibleraven]

Same. Never heard about this. American stuff, maybe.

[@stanleyhyde8529]

Isn't wrath one of the seven deadly sins? This guy's putting it forward as part of the reason for believing in God.

[@MrDalisclock]

It's okay when god does it, according to a lot of apologists.

[@funcat3560]

@@MrDalisclock Yeah, many people say something like "god cannot be judged by our human moral standards, and therefore cannot be evil." Yet this ironically implies we cannot call him "good" either. Which means "god" sends people to hell for no good reason.

[@stanleyhyde8529]

@@funcat3560 that tracks

[@MrDalisclock]

@@funcat3560 it's goalpost moving. They want to call god "just" and "loving" but as soon as his shitty qualities are brought up, they immediately switch to "You can't judge god" or "his plans/ways are unknowable". It's the apologist playbook, where God gets to be whatever they need him to be to support their argument at the given moment.

[@joshuapray]

Totally. God is at once good when judged by our moral standards and beyond judgment when he is not good. Pretty nakedly dishonest philosophy.@@MrDalisclock

[@hatuletoh]

What about the Codpiece of Officiousness? The part of the armor religious folks are always sticking in places where it's not wanted.

[@j.r.2184]

My (former mormon) seminary teacher in high school taught us that "girding your loins" (with the belt of truth) was something that people in the middle-east area would do when they had to work or fight. The long robes that they wore would get in the way of combat or hard labor, so they would lift the bottoms of their robes and tuck them into their belt, making it easier to move. So you gird your loins to prepare to work/fight, and in the same way, you study the truth to prepare you to act. I dunno if he was right about the whole girding the loins thing, but I thought it was at least a more useful analogy, even if the religion turned out to be silly and weird.

[@Otazihs]

How do people watch/listen videos like that and not walk away immediately? Just listening to some of the explanations and reasons for god's armor was sickening and deeply disturbing. Like, it goes against logic and reason itself. How can a person go through life with such flawed reasoning and line of thinking? Any other scenario and people would say you need mental and behavioral help, but since it's about religion, or "faith", everything is fine and dandy, nothing to see here.

[@FighterOfWrongs]

It just shows how powerful of an effect indoctrination can have on people

[@madtabby66]

When it’s drilled into you from the age of 2, you don’t question it.

[@spencerdillehay1956]

I haven't seen the whole vid yet, but I wanted to say that I love the direction your background and wardrobe are going! I've noticed the small shifts you've been making since transitioning to on-cam, and I think having some visual elements in the background is a great idea.

[@Groffili]

There's few things as funny as a failed metaphor. The belt of truth is the first piece in your armour? Well... I dare this person to try to dress up in armour - any sort of armour - and put the belt on first. ;)

[@happytofu5]

Maybe its more like a maternity belt that keeps the belly in place xD

[@KarmasAB123]

@@happytofu5 It's probably a girdle, considering there aren't any pants.

[@FeliciaByNature]

I grew up catholic and I never heard about this. Attended catholic school from grade school through high school. NEver once heard this. It's fascinatingly psychotic to me.

[@mathiasrryba]

I think i did hear about it but it was never a big thing, just mentioned in passing.

[@indigopines]

Same, looks like we dodged at least one bullet

[@FeliciaByNature]

@@indigopinesyeah, I was an altar boy in the mid 90s though. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Nocturnalux]

Same. But I got terrorized in other ways.

[@Uryvichk]

Definitely a Protestant thing. I had Boy Scouts and we met at a Protestant church and I saw it on the walls of the Sunday School room, had never seen or heard of it before.

[@czipcok1994]

I dont care that its stupid. Its dangerous, thats the bigger problem. Its basically teaching kids to stay as vigilant and distrustful of people from outside their religion, but be defenceless towards the insiders. If thats not a cult behaviour I dont know what it is.

[@trybunt]

About anger- I've never been particularly hot headed, but just like anyone else i feel angry at times. But i can usually ask myself why I'm angry and what i can do to solve that problem, and acknowledging that will usually dissolve any anger. If we were fighting for our survival amongst all manner of threats in the wild, then anger could be helpful, and sometimes anger needed to process or frustrations with the world. But today, in a city of people? Acting out of anger just seems so pointless and even childish to me. Typically all it does is encourage poor decisions or escalate problems beyond reasonable resolutions. At the end of the day, an angry God makes no sense to me at all. All knowing, all loving, all powerful God throwing a tantrum? That just seems ridiculous. Thats my two cents about all that anyways

[@moodyrick8503]

*The truth has nothing to fear from investigation.* So why then, is free thinking, free speech, democracy, equality for women & rigorous scientific investigation not found in any of the Bible's teachings ?

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

Spiritual warfare are things like bible contradictions, Christians being awful, God being a liar, the truth being really convincing, and so on. That devil!

[@CantonWhy]

I love how this video ended. You're getting better at your conclusions, Zod! And you were already good at them.

[@RandyWinn42]

As for the drunken vehicular homicide, let us consult the words of Jesus, not Paul or Leo: "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also." --- Matthew, 5:38-39 Perhaps Leo's god should have a chat with Jesus.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Leo's God _is_ Jesus, the Armor of God being a strictly New Testament Pauline thing, so this is gonna end in a Battle of Gods/Bible Fight mirror match. 🤜 💥 🤛

[@QuintarFarenor]

As a German-Catholic I can't remember if I ever heard about the Armor of God. I don't feel like I missed something.

[@happytofu5]

It sounds so bonkers when you did not grow up with it, doesnt it? Its the same with the rapture for me.

[@madtabby66]

@@happytofu5 Well the rapture was invented in the mid 19th century. It’s not biblical. But hey that’s okay.

[@torinmorris6648]

You’re my favorite channel👍✨ I like when you target specific ideas, especially in the remedial Bible lessons series. It’s really great relaxing entertainment.

[@dantallman5345]

Not sure Leo’s video improved on the old flannel board versions.

[@feedingravens]

One thing that became obvious to me a some months ago: Christianity promises that you OWN The Truth. No need to KNOW it, no need to be able to formulate it in your own words when you OWN the truth. It is revealed to you when you hear/read in the perfect word of the perfect God, and this magic effect can only take place with the original text (of the umpteenth handcopy and umpteenth translation). But because of this revelation you now are intuitively right in everything you think, do and say. When I know one thing (and also while I was german catholic, because our religion is not US fundamentalism), it is that there is nothing perfect, so also no perfect answer, infallibility etc.

[@rachelwebber3605]

To be fair to Leo... his animations are pretty cute! Though sometimes they're sort of "uncanny valley" cute, due to the actions or underlying messages being disturbing.

[@slenders1ckn3ss]

If Earth is not your home, you're in someone else's house and you should behave your damn self and not mess it up. If the Earth IS your home, you should keep your house clean, right?

[@hackman669]

Right😊

[@Chrismas815]

PoZ, I know this is unrelated to the video, but I just wanna say you have an aesthetically pleasing face

[@james-russellgause4735]

Right? Like it was designed to convey non-threatening wisdom or something.

[@brucee6524]

@@james-russellgause4735must be AI graphics…

[@edwardtbabinski]

Paul portrayed the Christian as putting on the whole armor of Christ, breastplate, shield, helmet, and sword -- an analogy suited to training people to obey orders. (And anyone who imagines themselves covered in armor head to toe, about to do battle, how defensive a mindset is that? How insular.) Paul's other analogies include being a "slave" and "bridegroom." The rhetorical lesson is to be obedient soldiers, slaves, brides.

[@Uryvichk]

Yes, everyone must be obedient to Christ. Unless another apostle comes by telling them to be obedient to Christ. Then that's wrong and they need to be obedient to Paul.

[@edwardtbabinski]

@@Uryvichk Define "obedience to Christ." Does that mean electing legislators and judges that seek to outlaw same sex unions, all abortions, and laws making it more difficult for minorities to vote including gerrymandering their votes away even though the majority is against such laws? Also, how "obedient?" Do you give to all who ask, asking nothing in return? Do you store up treasure on earth or in heaven? Jesus said not to store up treasure on earth (sounds like no bank account). Do you seek to live like the early church holding your money in common like in Acts? Do you not only give away your coat but cloak as well? Do you turn the other cheek? Love your enemies? How about defying your family for the sake of the Gospel? That last one really sounds cultish, since cults love it when cult believers live together instead of maintaining strong contact with their families.

[@serazaydia]

Something I always hated as a kid was the lack of instructions of what to do AFTER becoming Christian. Every sermon was an alter call. Every lesson was "accept Jesus and you'll be saved." I accepted Jesus when I was like, 4 years old. This was old news to me. I wanted someone to tell me what to do now that I was saved. "Read the Bible" but it's boring? I tried really hard to read the Bible but I could never concentrate, so all that got me was even more self hatred. "Pray" but that's not an active solution to anything, and I wanted to *do* things for God. "Live your life for God" okay but *how.* No one would give me an answer. They just kept talking about how to accept Jesus. And how a lot of people aren't actually saved, they just think they are. That if God isn't #1 in your life you might not be saved. But how can he be #1 in your life if there's no actionable way to prioritize him? I started interpreting this as "having interests other than church that you think of more often than God means you have an idol and/or aren't really saved. which was great for me as an autistic person with intense special interests in things that weren't the Bible! So in this salvation-obsessed culture with no advice on how to actually live for God once you were saved...what else was I supposed to do but obsess over whether I was saved to the point of intense anxiety, praying over and over again, and yet more of that self hatred? Christianity is a religion where everything that actually matters begins and ends with conversion.

[@joshuapray]

I had this same challenge as a kid. I believed, but what then? Church was always the same message, week after week, dressed up with different verses: Get saved. The only action I was offered was what we called 'witnessing', which was telling non-believers about god and getting them to convert. That's all I ever got by way of the 'what now' question. Not very satisfying, and also felt wrong on lots of levels.

[@madtabby66]

Yep. And if you seeked assistance with an issue they’d go to that. Im sitting there thinking “you’re the idiot who baptized me!” But then when things got really bad in my life I was informed that “honour your mother & father” means don’t talk about what they do to you to anyone. And they’ll stop hurting me if I only have enough faith.

[@serazaydia]

@@madtabby66 I don't want to disclose too many details for her privacy but something similar happened to my sister. the church is so fucked and I hate the "honor your father and mother" commandment so much

[@joelharvey579]

Revelation 21:4 New International Version 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[a] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” To what depths must we go to discover the nature of the human soul. This place is temporary, and even though you feel like these things are cruel and maybe they are for now, but when given eternal life and no suffering, these things will act as a reminder into eternity the love God has for us is so great that it literally wipes away all the suffering you can imagine, I know it’s terrible but these things we must understand in order to appreciate the gift that we will receive. The fact of the matter is you do not know everything you are not God we may think things are horrible and they are to us, but in the end, they will all be made right

[@dane947]

This brings me back to the complete and utters bonkersness that was(is) Emma Mae Jenkins "armor of God" videos. They were so cringe to watch.

[@james-russellgause4735]

Just looked her up. Interesting.

[@merbst]

I don't think the kid who was walking next to the kid who got flattened would be able to accurately assess the blood alcohol level of the driver, or whether he is inebrieated, much less the precise culpability of the driver & passengers.

[@thetalkingbear]

The PBS channel sound gives me such nostalgia.

[@77pixels64]

Your idea about the absurdity of god experiencing anger, as a secondary emotion, is very insightful and connects several dots about how the character of god was constructed by primitive societies who also had no understanding of psychology and how to properly process emotions.

[@stevewebber707]

Oh good, so if I make a cute drawing of a pet cat, thus breaking the second commandment, God will be infinitely wrathful, and I deserve to die. That sounds ever so reasonable and loving. Maybe it's just me, but the first thing I think of when I think of belts and children, in the context of conservative Christianity, is not as armor. Especially with all that glorification of wrath he went through here.

[@DarqueSyde66]

What an AWESOME ZING at the end! “The truth will set you free!” THAT, my friend, was masterful!

[@MarioMarioBW]

Just as the truth will set you free, the misleads will keep you enthralled.

[@endersdragon34]

Best circular logic ever!

[@raptor909]

Truth was sneaky if you pay attention even at the start he doesn't say reality is truth, he says truth is reality, and he already defined truth as the world of god

[@Skeptic236]

You missed out the "holy hand grenade of Antioch" from the Book of Armaments.

[@madtabby66]

But only king Chuck has it.

[@lajmd123]

The sickest part about all of this are the assurances that God will protect you from God. That’s effectively with this guy‘s message is… God made you to be a piece of crap that pisses him off, but don’t worry he’ll protect you from himself if you just memorize a bunch of lines out of a book. The only person threatening your soul in this version of reality is God. If not, God, you would not face eternal torment. He’s like an arsonist that demands an apology from the fire department. It’s ridiculous. When I finally deconverted, and was able to look back at some of the stuff, I believed, I realize how completely sick it was that a being with all the power in the universe would torment his creations, in such a grotesque and arbitrary manner.

[@heiyuall]

I learned about this armor idiocy when watching atheist riffing of Bibleman.

[@jennoscura2381]

Bible Man is the only way Evangelical kids get to experience light sabers. Clearly the Jedi's powers are from Satan. LOL

[@joshuapray]

@@jennoscura2381 I was fully on-board for Bible Man as a kid in a fundamentalist family. In fact, I remember the Armour of God episode perfectly clearly. I always felt this passage was used with kids not as a memory device but so they could feel 'cool' and like there was something actionable about being a Christian. You really see this manifest when those fundy kids grow up into gun fanatics.

[@rachelfey]

The breastplate of righteousness! The shoes of peace! The lasso of truth! The neckerchief of dubious credibility! The leggings of haughty indignation!

[@wilberwhateley7569]

“Lasso of Truth” - you just stole that from Wonder Woman, didn’t you?

[@jacknerdlord3244]

As a kid, I played a PC game, I think it was called spiritual warfare, and you threw fruit as a weapon while you hunt for the armor of God while fighting idk, I think some of them were homeless gang members or something in a Zelda knockoff.

[@ziploc2000]

Nowadays they'd be asylum seekers.

[@JovanDacic]

Spiritual Warfare. What a blast from the past. If you so much as walk into the neighborhood bar, you lose your whole armor and have to get it back. About the same level of nuance as one can expect from Leo's chalk talk here. Hope the Bonus Angel has mercy on you!! 🤓

[@jacknerdlord3244]

@@JovanDacic I forgot about the bar, wow.

[@madtabby66]

I’m assuming it was something the religious right put out to combat the demonic games?

[@GapWim]

19:06 _"If your concept of justice is so stunted that you see it in terms of wether you angered an authority figure."_ Which is why I often bring up Lauwrence Kohlbergs psychological study on the stages of Moral Development in children. This view is stage 1, level 1 of moral development. A normal 6 year old child should have outgrown this by now. But within Christianity one is not allowed to think (or develop) beyond this. ... it's quite telling if you ask me 🤷‍♂️

[@ThisIsPampkin]

Stupid or not, you can't deny that sounds like an awesome set of gear in an RPG.

[@hackman669]

RPG games for life 🎉

[@dolfuny]

Hell yeah got the belt of true. It makes it so all my persuasion checks successful!

[@The0Stroy]

It seems to be one of these things specific for American Protestants - as I had never heard it used by Catholics in Europe.

[@jennoscura2381]

This makes me think of Bible Man even though I wasn't raised Christian and have maybe seen one episode.

[@michaelnewsham1412]

Interesting that he chooses a passage from Paul that denies the physical resurrection in favour of a spiritual one.

[@TheBloodlessOne]

“The Greek word for word is” made me laugh too hard lmao

[@mirandarensberger6919]

Leo himself makes the point that none of the rest of it makes sense without first accepting it all as true. We can all see the flaw in that, but I think it's funny that the metaphor undermines itself, because who gets dressed belt first?

[@Jenna_Miles]

Helmet of salvation is a tin-foil hat 😵😵😵

[@kellydalstok8900]

Snap!

[@andyf4292]

the problem is,,, real armour helps you... armour that isnt real gives you confidence that you really shouldnt have, bit like Mayor West's bulletproof vest

[@marekkedzierski8237]

I grew up Christian, yet I never heard anything about "armor of god". Is it something specific to Evangelicals?

[@wilberwhateley7569]

It’s a huge part of Evangelical/Charismatic indoctrination - they want to make sure that you are psychologically insulated from ideas that contradict their own.

[@fidelluz2942]

yep. some churches do mention the armor more than others

[@michaelswain2076]

I havent read these passages in 10 years but I could probably still quote them verbatim.

[@MizterMissile]

I wasn't evangelical, but Christian and I'm familiar with it. However, I don't recall it being drilled into my head or anything, I just recall a very detailed poster illustration of a man wearing the armor, and it detailed the information about each piece. So I guess I can suspect it probably is a very evangelical tenant.

[@exaucemayunga22]

Maybe you never read your Bible, which is normal for Christians😂. But it's in the Bible

[@nightshade7240]

We really need to push back against this idea that "you aren't saved by works alone" which has become "no moral obligation on you for your salvation" but that's directly oppositional to Jesus own word who makes the demand that those who follow him look after the most vulnerable and the acts required to do so and if not the punishment for his followers who use his name in vain but don't demonstrate these acts of service.. While the English bible is all bullshit and lies the fact that they so thoroughly misrepresent the reality of what their own saviour said, the guy the whole system is built on, for a guy who had visions in questionable states of ecstasy is so utterly ludicrous that we should, as non-xtains, be pointing this out any time it's mentioned. I was raised in a cult and I still remember the lyrics to one of the central songs the cult operated on. My loins are gird about with truth. I have on the breastplate of righteousness. My feet are shod in the gospel of peace. I've taken up the mighty shield of faith. The helmet of salvation upon my head and the sword of the spirit, God's word. The mentality of that cult is that we were soldiers in an army of god and anyone who was not for us was an enemy, to whom it was our duty to lie and deceive. That we could trust no one but our fellow soldiers. We could trust no one but those who lived on the bases and operated in the day to day rituals and observations and activities that bound us together in the army and unified us. Strong together, weak divided. We were even told if you fall, if you falter, no one can take your place because you are an integral part of the battle line. I heard this from the age of ten. What did I think? Oh cool, I'm a soldier with this magic armour and a sword that lets me kill demons which are scary because I've been told they are scary. Is it a sword to kill people? Well, only to kill those parts of them that are otherwise bad because, after all, god made them, so they can't be all bad. Kids aren't paying attention to the realities of what the armour represents as an analogy, it's cool, magic armour to protect me from the things that scare me and a sword to try to fight to kill the things that scare me. Children's worlds after all are so operational on fear about so much. Add in the xtian/cult elements of fear and shame. The actual reality of armour is it is as much of a weapon as the sword. A shield is an offensive weapon. You can do more damage when covered in armour because you are covered in a weapon that for long historical periods required far more resources to stop someone in armour than just a person with their flesh. The armour of god is a weaponisation of children's fear and playing on the idea of how much children love knights and swords and stuff.

[@andyf4292]

surely if this god hates sin,,,, why did he invent it? does he cut himself?

[@hackman669]

So Hid can't go to Vegas😊

[@PurpleRhymesWithOrange]

The ridges on Roman sheils were not for them to interlock, but rather to catch an enemy's sword to as disarm them.

[@RoninTF2011]

We have a lot of roman reeactment groups in the area, all of them using historically verified equipment replicas. None of the roman shields has any ridges , hooks rails or whatsoever ... This so called "philosopher" is just talking out of his a**

[@sobertillnoon]

God experiences wrath and wrath is justice? I thought wrath was a sin. Like one of the top 7 or something Edit: guys, he brings up 4 other of them. What is even happening? Why is it so hard for these people to stay internally consistent?

[@joshuapray]

'When the president does it, it's not illegal'. This is always what comes to mind.

[@bigdavexx1]

I went to church with my family from before I can remember to my twenties. I don't remember anyone ever teaching the armor of God metaphor to me, but I do remember people teaching it once to very young children (3 or 4). Even as a believer, it seemed a very stretched metaphor as an excuse to pretend about fighting. I'm surprised to learn that this was a standard lesson.

[@matthewgordon3281]

Leo's "Armor of God" Belt of Gullibility Breastplate of the Judgmental Shoes of Guilt Shield of Conformity Helmet of Death Cultism Sword of Limited Thought Now obsess over made up stuff!

[@WesValure]

The Armor of God would be like, I'm rubber and your glue when you speak with a evil heart. JESUS gives us the ability to just brush it off.. 😎

[@Bangin0utWest]

Im still confused why Christians get medical treatment or go to the hospital and not the church to pray to God and if they die it was supposed to be if they live God saved them 😂😂

[@Ex_christian]

I wonder the same. My in-laws have plenty of medical and mental problems but expect a miracle pill to take care of it all. I don’t hear them asking their make believe god to fix them…. It’s disgusting.

[@Bangin0utWest]

@@Ex_christian also why aren't All these Christians running into burning buildings and chaining themselves to buildings in war zones to protect the innocent people so they can commit the ultimate sacrifice NOW and be with Jesus SOONER. it's WEIRD how badly these Christians want to live 😭😭😭

[@Bangin0utWest]

@@Ex_christian how do you know they have medical problems??

[@Ex_christian]

@@Bangin0utWestemergency room visit is about once a month.

[@LeoFieTv]

Call me hopelessly naive, but I think that the point of an impartial justice system is to remove a crime from the very strong emotions of the people involved and evaluate them dispassionately to find a solution that would benefit the community as a whole based on compassion, humanist morale and social science. In an ideal world at least. Also one little thing: I personally think the idea of righteous anger to be very useful with regards to systemic problems. As a response to the liberal idea of "civil discourse" which thinks that passion has no place in politics as if passion automatically means the position is baseless. Righteous anger means that it is normal to feel angry at a system that discriminates against you and that your personal involvement in an issue doesn't mean you disqualify from talking about it. Importantly your politics also need a strong base of facts, which is the point where lefties actually do have libraries worth of writing on their side, whereas alt-righters only have their feelings.

[@Maryfs1]

God's armor is a scale mail bikini.

[@ivanf4023]

I was pretty well obsessed with medieval weaponry from an early age. The armor of god was probably my favorite lesson from Sunday School and/or Vacation Bible School. We even made paper armor and I was like "YES!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!" It lost its luster rather quickly.

[@l0rf]

This sounds like it should be in Warhammer 40000 as one of those grimdark parts of the dystopian future, not something actual people teach actual kids. Edit: they're literally saying "My faith is my shield" like that isn't a quote from the Dawn of War series of games. Now of course the bible came first and definitely inspired a lot of western media, but when I'm not sure whether I'm listening to a preacher talk to children or a Space Marine Chaplain deliver a battle sermon before a brutal and bloody slaughter... That's just plain scary.