Pros and Cons on TUNING your 10th gen CIVIC SI

[@TdaKid]

Link in bio for my Ktuner Install video Thanks for all your support! Be safe -Tony

[@xTWISTED_WAYZx]

Mechanic at Honda said they know when you've " flashed " your ecu. You ever mod your android phone? You look at the root menu and it says tampered? Not tampered? Locked or unlocked.? These are all the types of ways that we probably leave trails for them to see or their system to pickup on. Thats just a guess, he didn't say how but i'm sure they simply hook it up to their main system program thingy and uploads your cars data report to headquarters lol. Mainly for data in r and d no doubt. Honda would want that type of feed back from their cars if they cant get it from customer to dealer to Honda. Thats my best guess, he only said laughingly too, as he walked away " oh hell yeah we can..." I was concerned i took my car in for thr AC condenser fix, its under warranty but i was flashed and no time to take it off. plus my car had its intake on, and a few other things that i thought would flag them to blame the condenser fix on. Well he opens my hood looks down sees my 27won intake... " Oh NICE!!!" Then when he gets in to take it back , he freakin kicks my Ktuner 1.2 out of the obd 2 plug in.... 🤦‍♂️. Turns the car on and honda hack was on the screen 😳. I said oh dude wait ... He laughed...took the car back updated my software with it tuned even...put the condenser in and tried to help track down the misfire my car was having . They can be dicks at any point along that line ... he wasn't. Its definitely a way for them to get out of some major fixes but its also a logical type of thing. Because you put an exhaust on chances are that didnt make your condenser go out right ?

[@Bounteekilla]

Thanks for breaking it down man! I have a 2020 and worried about warranty so I'll probably wait. Can't wait to see the actual dyno numbers on the 3 maps!

[@Bounteekilla]

@@chev9208 Yup, I ended up getting a KTuner V2 (the LCD touch screen) with Phearable tune and just hide the KTuner when I drop it off at the dealer. If I'm doing warranty work, I'd flash to stock but they don't even check. Love the tune.

[@giovanniberdejo-gallegos3569]

Great video and advice. I have a 24 Civic Si and have debated about FBO and K-Tuner. It’s my daily driver so I have reservations but I’ll wait until the warranty expires to really experiment with the car.

[@thaiquandough4640]

Just more info. You can disable rev hang on the base tunes that come with the tuner. It is a setting. Make sure to change it before downloading and flashing the tune or else you’ll have to reflash another tune.

[@lifeofhardknocks.3280]

U can flash v1.2 and take it off also, you don't have to keep it plugged into your obd2 port unless you running tunerview through it's bluetooth.

[@1SlowSi818]

Tunerview to see the gauges on the screen . Worth it 🙌🏽

[@Tommytwoforty]

I want to run phearable map 1 for reliability, did the intercooler and saving for a clutch, I want more than stock but really don’t wanna push it all the time

[@goofynewfie1415]

I'm glad I am not the only one that gets distracted by other vehicles passing lol

[@ansonanson5884]

Nice video man keep up the good work

[@mlamanne]

Great Video. Very well done and clear and concise information. Good job brother.

[@yosammy1746]

False. Honda dealership can track if it has been flashed. ECU keeps a history of it. Your best bet to avoid being tracked is if you get a complete duplicate of your ECU and replace the whole thing.

[@TopFloorRestore]

1:10 me whenever I hear a car with a modded exhaust doing a pull within a 5 mile radius

[@ofiebear3575]

Have your pops and your sister drive your new 10th gen please! And get their opinions on which they like better.

[@thinkforyourself5672]

Tony, Even in map 1 did you notice a huge plus driving experience? Like we talked about the other day I still have the Stock clutch and plan on keeping it that way for a long time. I don't want a tune to be the reason I have to spend that kind of money out of nowhere. Plan on keeping mine at the minimum map setting.

[@19Herofade92]

I have hondata on my 2018 SI and got it dyno tuned. Pushing 23 Psi. Super fun. Key word. Its quick, not fast.

[@Underated_Shorts]

Have you upgraded the intercooler since the upgrade?

[@JosiahMamea]

1:11 literally me everytime i hear a nice car & specifically stis lol! Slight window roll down and all

[@bosemanracing3800]

Hi Tony nice video and honest comments! I’m just worried about warranty as I have a warranty for 120K miles lol and it’s my daily driver. I know they have a reflash counter so that itself will void the warranty if they haven’t done it themselves. I have racechip piggyback for my 2020 Si. It works I can tell you that. I know people are Skeptical about piggybacks. I do feel a noticeable difference and it’s way faster than stock. It adds like 45 HP is the highest level of tune snd it works so well. I just take it out when I go for an oil change at the dealership and in this way my warranty is intact. cheers guys !

[@ahooliu28]

My clutch went at 5000miles lol. Dealer determined it was a faulty pressure plate and friction disc and is being replacing for free.

[@BenBriones]

you just got a new subscriber. Love your stuff man, Thanks for creating!

[@9oo9o]

I have a 2018 Honda Civic hatchback touring sport I want a Ktruner what you thinking what should I do and it's automatic I'm going to order one next week

[@ジョイボーイ_Channel]

i bought same car 8months ago i got the red one its fuckin beautiful

[@aaronslaughter2987]

You don't have to keep your k tuner connected once you flash the ecu you can disconnect it with v1 and 2

[@joshd.godfroy4761]

I have a 2018 si. Were you able to use the same stock tires with those new wheels you put on? If so, can you tell me which kind you put on?

[@FCwon4fun]

Tony great video. I know I’m late have a 2018 FC1 been tuned and FBO for 40k it’s at 64xxx been running strong just worried more about head lift so head studs are the next move😂 other then that it’s been a tank

[@RMG791]

Ultimately for longevity, keep your Si stock if you want the most life out of it, and less headaches. Unfortunately that’s how life works. You burn out quick, or live long enough to fade away. Kurt Cobain - he chose the big turbo route and modded up the ass, he burnt out, rather than faded away.... 😔 loo best analogy for anyone wondering how it will affect longevity and reliability! Lmaoooo

[@TdaKid]

Preach^

[@ColinoM]

Cat back exhaust is cool though...right?

[@ColinoM]

Just ordered the borla lol

[@bruisedavocado65]

Don't know how people blow up LOL 60k fBO w1 oil change every 3k miles tranny every 6-7 and oil weight 5w-30 torco 🤷‍♂️might just be lucky gonna buy the w2 let's see how that goes 🤣🤣

[@colbygee5146]

It's all in the tune.

[@sp33d3r1]

I appreciate your videos! Just bought a new Acura Integra and have been looking at the Phearable 1.5R tune for it. Your videos and a few others have pretty much swayed my mind to go ahead and do it and say screw the powertrain warranty. How's your car holding up?

[@TdaKid]

67k miles on the dash, Big turbo and custom E tuned from phearable making 310whp and 298wtq No issues I have all supporting mods tho like ARP head studs and a better clutch

[@sp33d3r1]

@@TdaKidNice! Those two things alone should keep you safe. Appreciate the reply.

[@leaf4224]

Nice video 👍

[@deedrer]

Bro are you in Ventura? How’s the tuner treating you? I just got an SI same year and purchased the k tuner. Working on some other mods too but I’m hoping to see how it’s holding up. Ventura local btw lol. I recognized the roads your on

[@deedrer]

Lol I realize you said that further into the vid

[@SteveNoone]

Saw the same. I grew up in Oxnard.

[@Shotgunwilly1588]

I have a 2013 Subi Wrx wagon wanting a newer 10gen si civic coupe what do i need to know for power and tuning compatibility

[@orcahang21]

Good 👍 job Tony .. Get Dardan to tune THIS .. And PLEASE post the Vlog 😁 😎 ! !

[@OGAwsomSauce]

Rev hang is what’s going to save your synchros in the transmission. Yes Honda can tell if you flashed the car. There’s a serial number that gets changed. Honda checked my ecu and said the ecu id didn’t match the original.

[@sdalexander8505]

How would rev hang save your synchros? If you are shifting to a gear with the revs further off from where they match the speed that gear is spinning? Aren’t your synchros doing more work to slow down the output shaft?

[@OGAwsomSauce]

@@sdalexander8505 when you turn off rev hang the rpms drop so fast that you start having mesh issues and get bad grinds. When it’s floating it shifts way smoother. There’s a slight bump in rev but it’s not going to hurt anything.

[@sdalexander8505]

@@OGAwsomSauce you mean when the revs drop too fast and you shift late, then you get a lurch as the revs have to go back up? Yeah, that’ll lead to a pretty rough shifting experience. My gripe with the car is how inconsistent the speed of the drop is with rev hang and the DMF. The A/C putting extra load on the engine with pull revs faster as well. It’s so different based on varying conditions that you can never get a real muscle memory routine out of shifting the car.

[@sdalexander8505]

@@OGAwsomSauce I think i get what you’re saying with the mesh. The friction cone area of the synchro and the gear slipping because of the acceleration the rpms are dropping?

[@OGAwsomSauce]

@@sdalexander8505 Naw it’s not that; I’ve been able to shift faster with the rev hang on with no grind than with the rev hang turned off.

[@brolyassasin8354]

I recently bought a 2018 si coupe then I start hearing about the 1.5t turbocharged engines oil dilution problems on them .. not sure if Si’s are affected by this too I also seen some do not sure , my car now has 15k miles is running perfect don’t see any problems.. did you have any problems with yours with this oil dilution thing going on I hope they come up with a plan soon on how to fix this problem bc I love this car , beautiful cars and so fun to drive

[@TdaKid]

This happens mainly in extreme cold climates so I don’t have to worry about that in SoCal. And also just let the car idle properly after a cold start.

[@brolyassasin8354]

@@TdaKid yeah so I heard I live in Indiana so will c I just hope Honda comes up with a fix soon for this problems

[@xTWISTED_WAYZx]

The 1.5t and all DI engines have this issue afaik. Also, you have a huge law suit they won awhile back for the 1.5t engines. unlimited milage for up to 6 yrs past the purchase data. I contacted one of the lawyers on the team that helped with the ruling for them. There are certain criteria that the suit laid out for Honda to navigate pretty much. If you hear whirling noises...etc.... Im tuned tsp stage 1 - 1.5t 2017 touring. Im at 180,000 miles and this is what i have learned. If you have a new car and its oil gets diluted then by all means you should be concerned about that certain vehicle. However, i use only the best oils and fuel is always 91+ if i'm running ktuner. I do my best to find clean gas though regardless of 89, 91 ... I also change my oil every time i see my oil life hit 15% or i notice it becoming much darker as normally it does. Also if you notice more oil than what you put in it then i would drain, change filter and keen am eye on it a bit more. Its not an ideal situation but it is an inherent one with DI engines and as such there is a certain level of acceptable dilution. You start to burn out plugs or misfires from it then by all means they are gonna have to fix that. I'm pretty sure they have managed to update, and also repair the major problems that plagued the 1.5T's with this dilution problem. I suppose that the point i'm getting at is dont let it ruin your time with this gen. They are on the hook for it, and as such the repair job is on them. Nobody wants to have their ride go down but again they can perform a repair that minimizes its impact. You will more likely run into bigger issues by the time this becomes a concern. The bigger issue id focus on is heat soaked engines and minimize the amount of it. Heats a real killer for this engine and its power output. Make sure you run good clean gas- it's sensitive to that for sure. Pay attention to maintenances, keep the plugs fresh, fluids new, and don't WOT from launch every stop sign. ( i drive the shit out mine, i never just slam the pedal down from the start). To finish with a piece of mind. I was having the valves adjusted awhile back and i was sitting in their waiting room for a few hours. I over heard a customer who brought her car in finally . She had bought one of the new Honda Clarity. She destroyed it. I asked that service guy " so what happened to her new car ? " He said its f'n blown...🤔😳😳 What did she do i asked...? She called in saying there was to much oil in her car and they told her to bring it in. She drove another 10k on it before she came in. Blew up her plug in hybrid clarity lol...😂 i said why was there more oil in it ? don't you guys service it ? He said yeah , it had oil dilution problems ... I walked off like wtf am i worried about then lol. Don't let that ruin your experience in this fun ass car. Enjoy it and it loves to drive. Cars will come and go and yes some early 1.5ts suffered an early death to such a stupid issue. Honda has a lot variations in this 1.5t im sure over the entire production time and all the different variations of the engine they have managed to minimize that concern to a reasonable inherent nature of the Di engines.

[@brolyassasin8354]

@@xTWISTED_WAYZx right , I love the car and mine only has 15k miles is smooth and shift like butter I don’t smell gas or nothing in the cabin so far , I will only do synthetic mobile 1 in this car and only put 93 octane premium gas

[@brolyassasin8354]

@@xTWISTED_WAYZx of it brakes later down the road Honda will have to fix since it’s their fault and is still on warranty

[@silverFoxx90]

I bought the 2020 civic si sedan 3 days ago and I noticed my daytime light was out and went to pull the bulb but all I sew are wires going into the headlight unit?. Are the LEDS built into the headlight unit?

[@alexl.102]

I loved when i switched from the basemaps to tsp and phearable on my non-si, that it stays on the last map used and also had lower idle speed not to mention higher psi levels. Been reliable too for 25k miles since i bought it used at 39k. Ps. I think ive run into you or another white civic driving through ventura at night because he had hids headlights and fogs too

[@loss5502]

Still reliable?

[@RodofAllTrades]

I have Ktuner v2 with TSP stage 1 and I can switch maps without the Ktuner being plugged in. Without Ktuner being plugged in, the car will always default to MAP 1 when started, regardless of what MAP you had it on when the car was shut off. Great video though!

[@TdaKid]

I wonder if that’s a tsp thing? I couldn’t do it with Phearable unplugged LOL

[@kenshaughnessy1371]

@@TdaKid I do it all the time with Phearable, not sure why it’s not working for you.

[@kdotldotsdot3430]

Been watching a lot of videos. This had a lot of uncommon info. Just understanding that I don’t have to start with the SI if I’m gone to Ktune regardless saved me a whole lot of hassle

[@Kagemusha320]

almost looks like your driving in moss landing? I have an 18 FK7 that I purchased new, so I know its been taken care of and not neglected and abused. With that said I want to possible go with Hondata with a low-boost tune to play it safe. Is there anything else I should do to ensure reliability. This is my daily driver. maybe headgasket and stronger head bolts?

[@realzona1525]

What do you use to hold up the ktuner on the left side there?

[@hippodin2186]

I bought my 2018 Civic Si about 2 months ago from Honda and got Honda Care. You mentioned that upgrading an aftermarket exhaust doesn't void the warranty. I been debating on getting the Greddy DD-R, but have been very cautious because the service contract says an exhaust does so its been back and forward with the wife on if its worth getting. If I understood what you said as long as its a cat back and doesn't require a tune or anything else I should be fine as far as my Honda Care goes? I just want my car to sound more aggressive and will look into a CAI or other mods later down the road. Plus the HDMI exhaust is not for me lol.

[@TdaKid]

Honda has to physically prove that your exhaust was the reason why something would happen to the engine that would void warranty. My Honda where I went to said it technically would void it but only for the exhaust part. They said everything else would be fine. Ex: if I have an exhaust leak I would have to pay for it outta pocket. Honda won’t cover that.

[@TdaKid]

I would go check with another dealership if you’re too worried about that and see what they say. Every dealership is different. You don’t have to go to the one you bought the car from

[@hippodin2186]

​@@TdaKid Awesome thank you very much for your insight. My understanding is the exhaust itself isn't even covered under honda care so wouldn't matter if that part is voided. Do you have any recommendations on a good-sounding exhaust? I've seen good things about the Greddy DD-R (but hard to get) and the AWE Touring or Track edition. I'd like it to sound good so if you have any recommendations that would be great!

[@hippodin2186]

It's hard to know what the "best" sounding exhaust is since my car is stock and a lot of the cars that they do videos on have other mods so I am not sure if that would change the way the exhaust sounds or if that is what mine would sound like based on the videos. Hopefully, that made sense.

[@TdaKid]

@@hippodin2186 I installed two different exhaust on the 10th GEN si. Mine FULLRACE cat back And my friends exhaust DDR greddy Both on the channel if you wanna hear them Stock DP and front pipe too

[@sigma0987]

bro do you know any dyno tuners for 10th gen Si in around LA ? someone reputable like dROB or john vega

[@takayisthomas6256]

I got a civic sport sedan 2.0 n/a I wanna throw the little tune on there that ktuner has it just wakes the engine up a little bit ….I know there’s no gains just wanna do it for fun. Is there any reason why I shouldn’t ?

[@dc2driver805]

Hondata has the option when you start your car it will automatically be in sport mode.

[@jnavarro13]

perfect timing my ktuner comes this week LOL

[@ivanlomeli2365]

If anybody looking at a 10th gen si and does real racing (digs ) biggest weak point on this car is the transmission. I would get a built transmission before even slapping on any bolt ons

[@ivanlomeli2365]

Trust me I’ve blown 2transmissions already with less than 35,000 mi

[@iknowyouknow9918]

What if it’s kept stock except for an upgraded intercooler and cold air intake, but you do hard accelerations from a dig often? I also heard the car shouldn’t be floored unless it’s above 3500 rpm. Is that even if those are the only mods and is it very bad for the engine or only for the clutch if it hasn’t been upgraded?

[@benitoloco899]

Heat is a transmission's worst enemy along with dirt and debris getting inside the transmission casing. I also hear the automatic CVT on the 10th gen does not do well with a tune, but that may be up for debate depending on the owner.

[@Sliver7744]

What shift knob do you have?

[@green0004]

Short knob made by acuity, I have the same one, drops the height little bit, and feels great shifting

[@Mario-jj5wk]

My clutch gave out after using tsp stage 1+. Had it for about 1k miles before it happened

[@totljag1]

That sucks , did u upgrade ?

[@marinamillan783]

does cold air intake like the prl void warrantee? also does a bigger intercooler void warrantee and what are the benefits of both? thanks!

[@baggedtuned8569]

Common aftermarket upgrades do not void your warranty. Make sure you don't use royal purple oil bc that is the only common thing that can void your warranty

[@levi_ab9776]

@@baggedtuned8569 y not Royal purple

[@baggedtuned8569]

@@levi_ab9776 its not API certified ive heard royal purple is up to standard but just not API certified so it would void a warranty if anything major happened to the engine and it had royal purple in it when it happened.

[@antnyc777]

I have the V2 do you have to leave it plugged in or can I bring it home when not driving? Any info is appreciated!

[@colbygee5146]

You can disconnect it. I'd be taking the display screen with me everywhere, to save it getting stolen. I'd leave to OBD2 portion hooked up and just unplug it at the side of the screen.

[@johnwaarwick3395]

What about the touring models can they be boosted

[@MariDiGennahVLOGS]

Are those number at 4:35 to the wheels?

[@TdaKid]

Yes

[@MariDiGennahVLOGS]

@@TdaKid im basically stock but the previous owner had ktuner. Once it’s plugged out it doesnt hold any setting correct? But i was able to use the cruise control to go 1,2,3. Kind of confused bcaz im new to the ktuner

[@MariDiGennahVLOGS]

One last thing roughly how much you think 18lbs will give you to the wheels?

[@mvc2177]

Not worth risking the reliability of these cars for me. If I wanted a fast car, could have went with other options. The car is quick enough.

[@totljag1]

Agree

[@4door4banger]

Bunch of wussies omy god

[@hondamanvtec2894]

Stage 1 tune wont harm anything And its going to be much quicker

[@mvc2177]

@@hondamanvtec2894 sold the car. Now waiting on a Tesla

[@totljag1]

@@hondamanvtec2894 it will void warranty

[@Justin-fi7vf]

So my buddy blew his motor and put everything back to stock. He took it to Honda and they denied it. He told me the cars have black box. That’s how they knew it was tuned.

[@mvc2177]

Serves him right trying to be scammy for something he caused

[@benitoloco899]

The black box is the ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The ECU is responsible for the vitals of the powertrain system, including the engine management and function. Dealer techs will be able to pick up any changes to the ECU by using an auto manufacturer's scan tool (or a dealer laptop with the scan tool OS on it). Worked as a dealer tech at one point, so I know this.

[@itsdanielrosa]

What map should daily on

[@dominicksee2660]

so i can take in my car with an exhaust and intake into the dealer?

[@TdaKid]

Why wouldn’t you be able to? I take it to then all the time.

[@MasterYooda94]

I’m skeptical on ktuners numbers on the 3rd tune like how is raising up the boost by like 5 psi guna result in almost 100 more wheel torque especially out of a 1.5L 🤔

[@TdaKid]

Yup. Usually that’s why the clutch starts to slip because of peeps drive it daily on it lol I rarely use it Map 2 is good enough until I get the clutch upgrade

[@MasterYooda94]

@@TdaKid I hear that on the clutch part but I just have a hard time believing that the tune puts out 100 more wheel torque

[@Bbc418]

What happen to your window visors, did you take them out?

[@TdaKid]

I’m trimming the sides. It was having a dumb issue where the window wouldn’t wanna close all the way

[@Bbc418]

@@TdaKid ya I tried them too but the window would go back down after touching the window visor

[@Underated_Shorts]

You not using an upgraded intercooler?

[@TdaKid]

All my mods are in the description of my recent videos. I have a 27won intercooler now

[@garr_bear_gummy8811]

Where did you get that Honda emblem hanging from your mirror btw? I

[@TdaKid]

My boys company It’s a Air Freshener thatartgeek.com/collections/air-fresheners

[@Wu-Fei]

20% Off until 3/1 11:59 pm btw

[@garr_bear_gummy8811]

@@Wu-Fei very cool! Thank you

[@MrSurfercano2]

Yo I don't know if you know how aggressive you can shift yet or not but if you shift as aggressively as possible on the stock tranny you WILL destroy 4th or 3rd gear and in my case both

[@junrowdy]

All boxers regardless of the mods, sound exactly the same. But to each there own lol

[@jeremysantos4753]

Listen to a boxer with an equal length header😎

[@BboyMobster]

my car is stock suspension and doesn't ride as smooth as your car lol. I'm stage tsp 1.5 with 52K miles on stock clutch lol.

[@ManuelGonzalez-nu5bb]

Nice video, what Downpipe did you go with?

[@TdaKid]

RV6 Got a good deal on it new

[@wurxt4308]

Does your clutch slip?

[@TdaKid]

Not yet. Then again I don’t beat on it. I literally still drive normal

[@UNDRGRND_GARAGE]

will a bpv void waranty?

[@TdaKid]

Stock is fine You don’t need one Just get an intake for sound

[@UNDRGRND_GARAGE]

@@TdaKid a bypass valve will it void?

[@TdaKid]

@@UNDRGRND_GARAGE never said it will. Just saying any aftermarket BOV or BPV isn’t needed. The stock is capable of holding 30psi.

[@UNDRGRND_GARAGE]

@@TdaKid yea I just want to know if it will void or not

[@totljag1]

So obviously u should not boost if u want to keep ur car reliable

[@bobbyherdman2100]

Lol that was an STI. I have a 2020 si sedan. Yes we all want STI’s

[@RMG791]

Should I get Ktuner or Hondata? Lol or should I just do CAI and FMIC first?? Downpipe too before any tune?

[@TdaKid]

I went intake, exhaust then ktuner. You don’t need a tune for those. Some FMIC will need a tune of some sort but not all. As for downpipe you’ll get a CEL without the defouler if you got Catless. Not sure about catted. Regardless I’d recommend ktuner before a downpipe and FMIC

[@bet02889]

With ktuner you can get ride of Rev hang!

[@TdaKid]

Yes It’s in the options when you open up the program on your pc

[@jimminyxmas]

Overly premature clutch failure should have nothing to do with a mild (stage 1 ecu, no bolt ons) tune under normal or even spirited driving condition, barring hard launches. Sounds like bad OEM equipment.

[@BMXsXeCRX]

Dude. I’m the same way. Lol

[@Anubis-h5p]

Talk too much just get to it

[@iidentifyasarock6106]

Pros: None Cons: It's Trash