Pros New FAVORITE Shot | a MUST LEARN Skill

[@johncincolapickleball]

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[@DixonChannel787]

lob is now a tactic shot in my arsenal, thanks for your tips

[@johncincolapickleball]

@@DixonChannel787 you are welcome!

[@nunyabidness3075]

As an amateur game designer, I just want you to know you ruined your paddle giveaway game. You will get a lot of likes and replies now because people are just going to like and reply to others so they limit the competition. I’d suggest in the future you either just pick a random comment, or like many other channels, pick only from people who include a word that you give near the end of the video. At any rate, thanks for the lob tips, I will try them out.

[@JeffLandauer]

@@nunyabidness3075I think the more likes and replies/comments a video gets, the more it gets recommended by the algorithm. So these rules were probably chosen on purpose. Only way to really win is to comment just a second before they pick a winner. Every other comment should have a like.

[@nunyabidness3075]

@@JeffLandauer Oh, absolutely! But that’s not going to be effective very long in my opinion. Games get published that have similar issues all the time. The result is players soon quit the game, stop playing, and often then refuse to buy from the same company. It’s a strategy fi very poor long term success.

[@tleparskas]

Dang I hate getting lobbed. At 73 I've fallen too many times chasing them down. Now I say "nice shot.."

[@Bergarita]

Shame on them lobbing a 73 year old dude. Just call any lob that is in about 3 inches or less "out". I mean it is your call right??

[@Redshirt1750]

The lob is the one shot that gets the most people injured. I understand using it in tournament play, but use it sparingly in recreational play.

[@perspicaciousfrog]

if you let the 73 year old guys have an easy ball you give them a point they have years on any young person and will shoot that ball right to your feet. punish position because thats an old guys only weakness

[@stevenverduyn7851]

I started working on lobs about a year ago because my wife hates it when people lob her so we started drilling it for her to practice it. 😂 thanks for the helpful tips. One thing you didn’t mention is the sun. Lobing with the sun on your back is another situational awareness thing for increasing the odds of it working well. And remember most people who love lobs don’t like it so LOB the Lobber!!😎

[@mikehoyt7592]

I like the tip of being deliberate about using the lob, not a desperation shot.

[@johncincolapickleball]

thank you!

[@Reflect-fj4qh]

Very effective during dinking when opponents are leaning over the NVZ line

[@redbirdx4]

One of the best, less physically demanding ways to win a point. Thanks for the reminder!

[@MarcMeininger]

As a 76 year old beginner, I appreciate your lob instructions. easy to understand. hopefully I can put it into action

[@donreinholz8121]

A lob is part of the game and it is a good way to get up to the kitchen. Some people do abuse it though.

[@sbinsdca]

Another tip. Lob cross court if you can. More court available when hitting on a diagonal.

[@fooze8]

Got to give this a try. Great tips. Thanks.

[@lymedog3176]

You want a secret to a lob… an older gentleman in Fla …taught me to lob…he never missed a lob shot… you could be 6’8” and you weren’t getting it…till the back line… I played him multiple games just to pick up on it…

[@goldenchildtheater]

@@lymedog3176 ok so what’s the secret

[@alexcereuceta5907]

You’re probably the one pickletuber/pro that I’ve learned the most from. I legitimately share all of your vids with my beginner buddies, since yours are the ones that helped me the most in the beginning, they just make sense. This time, I’m ahead of the curve, I’ve been using the lob, and “mastering” (as much as I can competently do it) the shot. Great video!

[@joydawson2036]

A lot of ppl are taught not to run backwards and therefore don’t know the proper way to run to retrieve a lob. As a result, they often just stand there and hope the lob goes out. Sun also makes a lob almost impossible to see

[@SarahArnoldTheAccidentalArtist]

Such an easy and effective tip to drill with your partner holding their paddle up high and aim to get 2' over it! Thanks John.

[@brianmagill9704]

Good video and explanations. I just finished playing a league match against a guy who is 6'2" and hit about 10 of these over his head to get the W. Afterwards he was loudly complaining about how it wasn't any fun to play with people who are hitting lobs. I think it is a good way to mix things up and if a player can't figure out how to counter it then that is on them. Obviously I'll dial them back against people with legit physical conditions.

[@paulparis3568]

So happy you mentioned situational awareness. When my partners try to lob over 6’ 4” athletic opponents it drives me nuts!

[@afterthesmash]

I am that 6'4" athletic guy, and I wish those people would stop doing this. I often chase them down in the air for a volley, but if I'm late, I end up having to reach behind my head, to take the shot from behind my body. If I'm really late, I get to the ball high up but behind my head, but then my wrist locks up before I can turn my paddle face to strike the ball down, and I end up firing a horizontal laser back to the other side. The last time I went out, I drilled the woman across the net from me right in the boob. We were 25 feet apart and the ball slowed down a lot, but she still scowled. Okay, really dumb. I'm always going to get the ball, and the only open question is whether I get it on time, in which I case I drill into the floor, or if I get to it late, in which case I'm going to drill it somewhere, hard, with far less control. So from the other side, the odds are 80% suicide (I get there easily and on time) and 20% murderball (I get there a faction of a second late, take a blind swing behind my head, and hope for the best). But they keep trying it, all the same. In the men's game, with stronger opponents, where my wild swing wouldn't matter (they defend themselves a lot better), none of the men are dumb enough to try this shot. It's only the women who aren't really good at defending themselves that think maybe this is a good idea.

[@donhastings1871]

I'm 67 yrs old and hate when people lob on me. Time I turn the tables on them and employ this strategy in my arsenal! Thanks for explaining this strategy well!

[@johncincolapickleball]

yes that is great!

[@800over]

Agreed

[@800over]

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[@smp315]

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[@denisesullivan3639]

I follow 3 pros for tips. You are one. Valuable information every time. Appreciate it.

[@ZbigniewOgrodniczak-q3c]

John, I'm lobbing, when I'm on baseline in trouble or on return to get to the net. It works great for being senior. Thanks

[@smp315]

It's a great tactic for sure. I just need to hone this skill

[@yukuhana]

Very complete and comprehensive coverage on lobbing. Thanks!

[@drmcg]

Thanks @johncincolapickleball. Those are great tips to help us learn to use the lob more frequently and more consistently. And we love the screen shot guide!

[@eddiepinder1927]

I like the notion of lobbing when you could also speed up. Thanks John!

[@denniswilson486]

John, you are the best at breaking down a shot for the people I am helping with specific shots. The keys are clearly explained and demonstrated. Well done John.

[@JeffSnowden1964]

Great strategy... The lob becomes a weapon instead of pure defense... Jimmy Connors is smiling somewhere.

[@j.rrowley5630]

I hate getting lobbed!!! But executing a good one like taught here adds good offensive variety in my game. Thanks again J.C

[@cars1695]

I'm going to practice my lob tomorrow on my 3 teenage sons with your tips. I know I'll mess up on some but that'll give me practice doing digs and resets.

[@heidibartle2241]

I like the comparison between a sink and a lob

[@TiCaudron]

Love the point about lobbing balls that are closer to the net so the apex is further back and harder for your opponent to get!

[@robinschaver3171]

I get more points with a lob. Thanks for your video. Great advice!

[@McCaffreyPickleball]

Lob is a great counter if you notice someone stepping/jumping out for an ernie.

[@fredfiala]

Great info John, especially hitting it when the ball is closer to the net.

[@johncincolapickleball]

yes of course!

[@granpadorey9189]

You are absolutely right buddy. I hate it when folks do this to me. I’m 71 and getting lobs is just very hard for me. I’m trying to get better but I practiced them a few times. I still just don’t like to pull the pin on them as much as I should this really helps thanks again.

[@johncincolapickleball]

awesome!

[@BlueskyUSA]

Your techniques helps me reducing a pickle getting slammed right back down at me. Thanks

[@LindaMarkesich]

Mindset/ decision making is so key...I'm short and the young guys I play against are able to jump and get to the baseline to defend, so using them sparingly is important.

[@billcrawford4547]

Well structured video with good points. In addition, I find that a crosscourt lob feom the forehand side gives me more room to get it up and down. Also, when you have moved an opponent out of position with a dink, a lob is one way to take advantage of the positional imbalance.

[@lukejohnson5283]

My mom has been playing since roughly 2017ish, maybe 2018. About a year ago now, I've been hooked, always wanting to play.

[@MrNaniAmaya]

Just recently decided to learn about pickleball. Can't wait to actually get on the court use what I've learned from your channel.

[@glenkielbowicz42]

Enjoyed the lob lesson today. An idea for the next lesson is to "how to defend against the kitchen lob".

[@peggymccright1220]

69 years ago beginner. Into my lessons and so far enjoying this game.

[@MichaelBlendeman]

Excellent content. One thing I tend to do is being to intense, the more relaxed I can be before I hit the shot the better the result. I’ve been learning to breath out and relax before hitting the shot and that helps with not over powering the shot. Your tips are always greatly appreciated. Cheers

[@johncincolapickleball]

keep it up!

[@phyllismoney6997]

I have been trying to add the lob ever since Matt used this shot to win against the Johns' brothers. I haven't been able to dial it in so these 5 tips are much appreciated!

[@davewise757]

This advice is spot on and perfectly adapted from tennis' offensive lob - low enough to clear, with topspin.

[@VictorRamirez-gt4uw]

If you lob diagonally, it gives you a little bit more Court, to their backhand, of course

[@ericli126]

Great explanation on how to use lobs not necesarily as a defensive move (at the back court) but an offensive tactic (at the kitchen).

[@danieledwards1560]

The offensive lob when both opponets are leaning forward during a dink rally is a true winner. If you watch both opponets upper torsos and they are positioned in the forward position(trunk and nose toward the net- even as they are striking a low dink); this is the perfect time for a lob.

[@jadoncochrane9998]

Great tips! My favorite tip was the "closer=better". The apex visualization was super helpful for that

[@raymondeffinger3647]

Nice job explaining how to use a lob.

[@CarolWillhite-yj7ed]

We just practiced getting lobs this morning, this is a very timely video. I am also a little challenged being an older player on the court, shorter one on the court, and need all the help I can get! Carol

[@jquillio5841]

Thanks! Now I've got a new skill to work on

[@utwellnessinstitute]

This covers the finer points of lobbing. I'm guilty of everything John talked about. That's why I have been avoiding lobbing. But not anymore!! I see it now as an offensive manuever, not a defensive tactic. Thanks so much, John!

[@earlewilliams4262]

Great skill to have. I'm a senior player and hate when it is done to me.

[@mvz6051]

I find that I lob when my brain can't decide on what shot I want to hit next in the moment..I find that it helps me avoid making a stupid mistake and set up a easy pop up or be out of position

[@tekneeekz]

Great explanation of all the technical aspects involved in executing the lob!

[@gretecmom]

Thanks for the clarification on the lob. I had heard conflicting info e.g. "never lob from the baseline" and "lob when in trouble at the NVZ." You suggestions makes sense.

[@damonhogan7767]

Great Tips! Going to try to work on this shot this week.

[@johncincolapickleball]

go for it

[@Banditsfan]

Relatively new to the game. I have been working on the Lob shot but aiming for the backhand had not brought to my attention. seems simple when you explain it. thank you!

[@johncincolapickleball]

you are welcome

[@smp315]

@@johncincolapickleball targeting the backhand is brilliant

[@IceTTToy]

Great lesson on the lob. I never think of using it and now I feel little more confident to incorporate it into my game. Thanks John!

[@FamilyCeballos]

Thanks, John. This was a great tip... Time to practice!

[@mageshsreenivasan4383]

I like your videos because you keep it simple with your techniques

[@johncincolapickleball]

thank you!

[@mattlauffer397]

Been working on incorporating lobs in my game. These are great tips to keep in mind!

[@mikemiller724]

Being closer to the net is a really good tip. I need to learn the lob to reverse the frustration on my opponent.😂

[@johncincolapickleball]

go for it

[@georgemeyer4219]

All my friends keep taking my paddle so I could use a lightly used one. :) Thanks for the tips. I always thought of the lob as a bad play but it can be an effective tool that should be practiced.

[@fernandoherranz4095]

I've been talking about this shot for quite a while! This is a great shot when used well

[@juanthomas8297]

I’m getting mixed signals on lobbing. A guy who’s better than me gave a lecture about lobbing and it not using it. His comment was, “if you wanna get better, please don’t lob”. Now in this video you’re teaching it as an offensive tool, which I agree on by the way. Just feel that this is one of those gray area topics. THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEOS SIR!!

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

Your friend is definitely wrong. The lob is a dangerous weapon. Unless you’re lobbing at the baseline. Maybe he’s telling you not to lob in lieu of a drop, because that is bad. But a lob as an offensive weapon to break up a dink rally is a powerful shot.

[@jasongordon9581]

Lobs are the devils work when your short 😂

[@johncincolapickleball]

hahaha yes can be

[@CKMD1]

Thanks John! Great content as always. I like the description on the disguise where it’s really just a high dink. You always make it look so simple. I love the break downs.

[@VictorRamirez-gt4uw]

Fairly new to the game that I love, I watch all your videos and I could use a decent paddle.

[@johncincolapickleball]

awesome!

[@WalperroZZ]

Congrats to the winner of the give away! Thanks John, I'm learning a lot whit your videos lately 😊

[@johncincolapickleball]

that is awesome!

[@smp315]

@@johncincolapickleball me too

[@belkwell4876]

Thank you. These are soooo hard to hit.

[@SteveandDebBentley]

I play with a couple of lob masters but as you show mine are never deep enough.Thanks for the video.

[@robinkraul-wilson2465]

I usually lob when I’m in trouble good advice to Not to this at NVZ because it usually does not work😊

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

Practicing lobs: Every time I return the ball to the other team, after a point, I practice trying to lob the ball “right over” the net. This forces me to concentrate on how much force I apply to the ball for an exact location. Doing this every game affords me endless practice every day. People don’t even know I’m practicing!

[@johncincolapickleball]

awesome!

[@goldenchildtheater]

How do you lob a ball “right over” the net?

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

@@goldenchildtheater Standing back in the court (my court) at the serving line is about the same distance as from the kitchen line to the opponents back-serving line. So I am practicing hitting it about the same distance as when I lob it over their heads. It's kind of funny. I started lobing and practicing about two months ago and all the players know I can do this. I like watching them run backwards! They never know where I am going to hit it now!

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

It's funny how effective it is. I teach this trick to others when they want to learn to lob better. Lobbing really puts the fear back into people that will not move from the kitchen line. I try and lob it directly over their head since it is hard for them to turn, run, then look for the ball as its coming down. This has transformed my game! Plus, it takes the pressure off those people that want to play PB like they are playing tennis... Whack-A-Mole!

[@smp315]

@@RobertHopkinsArt Need to utilize this strategy

[@RCCesna]

Thanksfor explaining when do and when don’t.

[@mariat3440]

I once played with someone who would lob almost every shot. It was so annoying. I came to find out that that’s the only shot that he could get a point 😅. Anyway, this is a great video to learn about lob. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@RachaelHudak]

This is great!! I always hear player say the good players don’t lob!

[@CharlieWellsPlus]

You have been reading my mind, I am almost at 4.0 and I basically never lob. I need to at least get this skill involved occasionally in my game and understand when/how to execute.

[@johncincolapickleball]

its a good one to learn

[@jamesf1525]

I'm a senior player and other seniors hate lobs. I use them when we're all at the NVZ and I can pop one up over their backhad.

[@frank88ster]

I choose 'who' to dink. Why? A shorter player who has poor footwork is 70% winner but not against a tall player who has good footwork, balance and a good volley smash, you have a lower percentage only 30% success. And ALWAYS LOB TO THEIR BACKHAND SIDE, even if a tall player can reach it, it will be a difficult attacking shot, success is now very high, 80%, because if player can switch hand, he can still return shot. Add a 'back spin / slice' to mix up lob so to making it a difficult shot to hit.

[@jeffreyrolinc4918]

Interesting, as some "practice/drill" sessions, the leader of those is telling all that lobs are NOT good to ever do... I've disagreed, so good to see this video!! :)

[@danskiludvik8358]

good info. I get beat a lot on lobs. I seldom remember to lob in the heat of battle, even though I practice it.

[@JCproductionspr]

Hooked on pickeball, love the tips to keep improving !

[@hphujab]

I do make that mistake, so thanks for pointing it out!

[@VasiaLachinov]

2 follow up questions: do you lob more on your forehand side or backhand? What is the ratio? And second question: what should be your position if opponent will get to his/her overhead?

[@Braunalita]

Can't wait to practice these tips,thanks.

[@a.j.6018]

Thank you for all of your great tips John!

[@johncincolapickleball]

for sure!

[@domg6614]

Love the offensive lob, thanks for the technique.

[@toddjones6481]

Attacking a dink out of the air with a lob is a game changer. I start doing it today.

[@DavidC-123]

My key take away was aim to my opponents' backhand. Great stuff.

[@johncincolapickleball]

yes go for it

[@RetirementBudgetCalculator]

I’m in. The lob is really hard for me. So I stay away from it. But I want to learn it. Thanks for the videos.

[@seanrivard1254]

I used to lob much more. Now I feel like I'm setting up my opponents to slam me. Great video. I need to practice this!

[@WillBloomfield]

I love the lob. Great suggestions, particularly in not lobbing when you're in trouble at the net.

[@DanSmading]

I’m one of the geezers who hates the lobs - and you’re making it worse John!! I’ve been working on my overheads, though, and nothing’s more satisfying than making them pay with a bounce off their shoelaces!

[@guitarplayer1969]

Just starting - Good stuff, but alot to learn to get to the next level,

[@daver.c.2613]

Great tips, easy to understand, and they make perfect sense.

[@johncincolapickleball]

awesome!!!

[@PhongTran-wl5hv]

Thank you, great tip.

[@johncincolapickleball]

yes for sure

[@suebrans8880]

Very helpful. Now to learn how to recognize and return the long!

[@benw63]

Nice video! I think I’ve hit 1 lob on accident in my pickleball career, but I’m going to try adding it!

[@lewisvenecia2580]

I appreciate your videos this is one of the areas I want to improve on thank you for sharing.

[@johncincolapickleball]

You are so welcome!

[@linsu2854]

Thanks. I used to think I had to lob really high

[@anitaschiltz9362]

No likes please. No comments. Would live the have a lightly used paddle programmed with John's paddle play. Thanks for your videos has been upping my game!