Prosecutor's closing argument in Oxford shooter's Miller Hearing

The prosecution's closing argument.
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[@seriously6649]

A well written argument, skillfully delivered. A tip of the hat to the prosecutor.

[@tigerlily9981]

Great job by this prosecutor The court should ask itself if he would want this person around THEIR family if he ever gets released. End of story.

[@amandavanheerden7980]

This guy is a complete psycho. He is obsessed with killing and death. He should never ever walk amongst normal people again. The risk is too great. He can't stop. He knows what he's doing and he understands the consequences. Put this disturbed piece of garbage away forever. My heart goes out to these poor, traumatised parents. May the outcome of this trial bring some closure for them.

[@Justaskme781]

I just finished a case where a murderer talked his way out of isolation into general public where he proceeded to kill again. And again and made attempt to kill another. General population is not for murders

[@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags]

It’s so wrong that Chris Watts is enjoying his life behind bars in general population… but I think he won’t last long because someone is going to give him prison justice and do to him what he did to his own family

[@arizonadreaming4183]

Why is his lawyer rolling her eyes at the prosecutor, who the hell does she think she is. He already plead guilty, why does she care if he stays in prison. She should want that too. That woman is nuts, and should not represent anyone who murders. She knows the truth, yet being so disrespectful to the families by doing that, when the prosecutor has worked so hard delivering this closing. She's got huge mental issues herself acting that way In court over a kid that she knows very well tortured and killed others. Shame on you for acting that way in front of grieving families and concerned citizens.

[@josephinelooman5878]

Agree, Amen

[@Teresa-Anne]

Not once did I see her roll her eyes. She looked to her side a couple of times. She NEVER rolled her eyes. 🙄 BUT, I just did, at your accusation.

[@tshamarie826]

@@Teresa-AnneI didn’t see her roll her eyes either😂

[@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags]

What parents in their right mind would buy a child a weapon like this?… knowing that he was struggling with depression and anxiety, disgusting behavior and they are as guilty and need to be punished for this behavior

[@barbarafields2220]

This kid is wasting our tax dollars he should have already been given the death penalty.

[@liz8935]

It is the parents' fault. If your child was ill, you'd take him to get checked out. These parents armed him.

[@courtneyratliff3684]

Really your a waste of property

[@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags]

@@courtneyratliff3684?huh?…. Who is the waste of property? Please explain what you mean…. your or you’re as in you’are.

[@tammiedonnelly2676]

What normal sane human being thinks and does the things he talked about and did. Please this child is mentally ill by far. Had his parents taking him home and sought professional help this all could have been avoided. I hope the parents punishment is as severe as his.

[@makingchanges5943]

She’s amazing. She missed nothing. Excellently delivered.

[@cvx5422]

Agree

[@citizenoftheearth6]

Parents, keep your children far away from guns, internet, and video games. Especially if they are struggling mentally. We didn't have children obsessed with violence and torture 40 years ago. What do you thing happened? Connect the dots! If you are too lazy to oarent, just don't have children and enjoy your life.

[@tammiedonnelly2676]

I can’t say how I would feel if one of these children were mine. I always say I have to be in the position before I could say what I would do. Anyway what this child did was totally horrendous. But when I look at him and I listened to the stories of his disgusting parents it breaks my heart. I’m sure most people will not agree and that’s ok. I just look at him and he looks so sad and defeated. Hell his parents have never been by his side. After the tragic incident they ran away and hid. Yes he deserves to be punished, I honestly think a life sentence in jail for him will end in suicide. He needs to spend a significant amount of time in a mental institution where he can get help. He needs to be shown at some point that he is a child who deserved love at some point in his life. I truly do not believe he ever was. I truly hope and pray that his parents who neglected him, never sought any kind of help for him. Then buy him a gun!! It was like they were setting their own son to do something criminal. God bless the victims and their families. God bless Ethan🙏

[@dspangler24]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying.

[@cvx5422]

You must be a parent, as am I. It is so so heartbreaking to hear how he was neglected and let down by his parents. It’s such a difficult case because if I were a parent of one of the victims I would want to jump over the bench and throttle the life out of him. On the other hand there are children who grow up in much much worse circumstances than this kid. What makes me the saddest is I feel if his parents had only taken the time to give him the very basic love and nurturing this may not have happened. It’s horrible for all, however excruciating for the parents who lost their children. Especially knowing that if ONLY his parents would have consistently pulled the reins in with their child, spent time and patience like they did with their precious horses this may not have happened.

[@gretchensullivan2041]

Excellent

[@courtneyratliff3684]

Telling someone with words instead believeing they may not question

[@josephinelooman5878]

He should have never had the gun at his age No matter what, mentaly ill or Not mentaly ill.

[@SmilingBeaver-ou7nc]

Ethan has the same smirk his mother has all the time.

[@katewilson9183]

Miller Factor 3 - circumstances of the homicide, the juveniles role, and whether there were other actors involved. Prosecutor: “not this situation - he was the only actor” “… oh wait… we the people are actually going to charge another two people with involuntary manslaughter (a sub category of homicide) in this case.” YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS MICHIGAN. Either Ethan is solely responsible or there were in fact mitigating factors and other culpable individuals.

[@courtneyratliff3684]

Dont expect respect of truth while shutting up a voice for your voice

[@Sunshine22896]

Is his parents here in the courtroom for this ?

[@heatherwalker1616]

No they are in custody awaiting trial for involuntary manslaughter

[@courtneyratliff3684]

If people were not cruel self centered we could prevent theses things...instead of constantly bugging someone that wants to be left alone...is it because you believe if i dont carry this thought of hurting someone i wont have a job...thats where sympathy stops

[@Silversoon78910]

So sad 😭

[@cvx5422]

Don’t they allow that kid to wash and cut his hair? He looks like the same state of the home he grew up.

[@tammyirwin703]

When she was elected, she said that she would never sentence a juvenile to life without girl, so there’s that little tidbit about Karen McDonald

[@BantheBans]

Yes? So? She opened with that. What do you think you're accomplishing with this comment? Did you listen to her argument?

[@tammyirwin703]

@@BantheBans I don’t care what her argument is at the end of the day. She lied.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@BantheBans]

@tammyirwin703 Yes, I'm sure that was her devious plan all along. Lie about no life sentence for kids just so she can ask for life for a kid the first chance she gets. You cracked the case. She changed her mind about this specific kid based on these specific circumstances. Furthermore it's up to the judge to sentence, she just makes the recommendation.

[@tammyirwin703]

@@BantheBans it doesn’t matter she said if she was elected that this is what she wouldn’t do and she did it anyway and usually the judge goes off the recommendation. at the end of the day she lied I’ve watched her interview and she’s a liar. She proved herself to be a liar in my eyes

[@courtneyratliff3684]

How much has lady spend tracking me

[@cindydalton9608]

This prosecutor is amazing!She went through every shooting in detail she knows this case inside and out.Unlike the defense attorney. I pray that he gets a relationship with God in prison and may God have mercy on his soul.

[@michellejarrett1826]

Let the parole board decide he's a kid

[@williamfoley5687]

At 15,i would give him a second chance at age 70.

[@slconley]

Maybe he can stay with you when he’s paroled.

[@liz8935]

Had the parents given a sh*t, he probably wouldn't be in thus situation.

[@TEAMCHARASKY]

HE IS A CHILD. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED. 😢

[@d3vildoll666]

You obviously did not watch the full 35 minute video.

[@Florida-Plant-Mom]

He killed children. He should be ashamed. His defenders should be ashamed.

[@slconley]

Do you think this child didn’t make his own choice and shouldn’t be held responsible?

[@d3vildoll666]

Not just kill children. He researched everything and meticulously planned everything. He knew that he wouldn't get the death penalty in Michigan. He didn't kill adults, he wanted to kill children! Because they had their life ahead of them! He loved killing baby animals! He's sick! This thing isn't a child!

[@arizonadreaming4183]

He let the teacher live..there you go...that makes him able to choose good choices and bad. That definitely makes him pure evil, and able to distinguish right from wrong. It was targeted shooting. Do you know the facts, probably not.