Prost and Senna's Former Manager, Julian Jakobi | Beyond The Grid | Official F1 Podcast

Driver managers are a vital, but often unseen part of the Formula 1 machine. Julian Jakobi currently manages Sergio Perez - and in the past has overseen the careers of both Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna... at the same time! Tune in for fascinating stories on our latest episode of Beyond the Grid.
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[@A.Santos1]

Of course I really like the interviews with the drivers, but my favorites are the ones with engineers, managers, team leaders, etc because they bring another point of view of racing, technical issues, backstage and paddock. You could invite mechanics and ex-mechanics too, they certainly have good information and another perspective from the world of motorsport to give us.

[@FirstnameLastname-wy7xf]

exactly.. drivers usually tell the same stories which everyone know as they are always in the limelight

[@kiranbabu3426]

Honestly, I prefer team principals, and engineers over drivers.

[@stevibhoy1]

Amen!

[@jouhannaudjeanfrancois891]

absolutely

[@frankpeutz9106]

Honestly, one of the most fascinating interviews I have heard for a vey long time. Also to me he seems to be a very sympathetic man, which is not evident given his profession / function. wonder if he ever writes his biography?! Frank Peutz

[@themitsudas]

Brilliant interview!!! Great insight about Senna & Prost's relationship. Thank you for your comments on the Senna movie about Prost. As much as a Senna fan that I am, I thought Prost was not portrayed correctly. I am glad that Prost was recognized at the end of the movie as being a Trustee of the Ayrton Senna Foundation, but it was too little, too late, IMO. But, I am glad to hear how much Ayrton respected Prost. They both benefitted greatly from their intense rivalry together at McLaren. I am glad that I was able to see these races live at the time and to truly appreciate what the two of them have done for the sport.

[@mark12345678901000]

This was genuinely one of the most insightful things I've listened to in ages. This man seems to be made of steel morally, tactically and intellectually. Fascinating man

[@avinashbikha]

Lol I can hear Nigel shouting when listening to this episode: "it was ME!!!! In the other Ferrari next to Alain!!! ME!!"

[@johnbramwell756]

av17nash ha ha. Yeah . Great driver though and a good man.

[@ryukenhondaraiden252]

@@johnbramwell756 you forgot to mention drama queen.

[@TerribleUsernameAmirite]

Julien Jakobi: Hello there! Ayrton Senna: General Jakobi! You are a bold one.

[@thiagom.6679]

Senna had a possibility of racing for Williams in 1992! I just knew about the negotiation with Williams for 1993. What an amazing piece of information. Thank you very much guys!

[@jenperdsmonlapin6953]

In hindsight he should have gone. Easy to say now but I cant imagine what would have happened if he got the Williams seat in 92..

[@alebangalter]

Hands down, this was one of the best episodes of beyond the grid I have ever listened to.. never thought I’d be blown away with so many cool details.. Tom Clarkson is on fire.

[@RACINGHOUSEUK]

So insightful! Shows how much more there is to racing

[@Olivereo02]

F1 HOUSE it’s been out for 2 minutes and you’ve already watched an hour long video

[@sccchan1980]

This interview is sooo good! Straight talking with plenty of insights and anecdotes. I was a huge fan of Senna and I’d heard of Julian Jakobi so to hear this interview was an absolute pleasure. He should write a book and do a Master Class in driver management / contract negotiation - would be incredibly interesting, what a job!

[@mattludlam2194]

This is still my favourite beyond the grid to date (April 23). Fascinating insight

[@PierreEmmanuelPreville]

Best “Beyond the Grid” so far. It was great to have him on the poscast!

[@svanhoogstraten]

Prost said himself that running a F1 team in France was and is impossible. You have to pay the staff too much.

[@lunasilvermoon2283]

After having heard both Alain Prost and Julian's accounts on Senna vs Prost.. It became very clear to me that, while they were rivals.. it wasn't neaaaarly as bad as the media had made it out to be. I also love how Senna's dealings with Mclaren and Williams in 1992 lines up entirely with Mika's recount that he was suppose to drive for Mclaren in 1992, provided Senna going to Williams... but then came back to Mclaren and Mika got benched as reserve/test driver

[@roadmantop3769]

What an amazing episode, Julian’s access, inside knowledge & experience has made for one of, if not the best one yet - bravo 👏

[@Erik_The_Viking]

By far the best episode - nice to hear about driver contracts and all of the stuff that happens outside of the grid.

[@SA-yb7mt]

Wow! One of the best so far and I didn't think someone not a driver or team boss or mechanic would be so interesting with the tales from behind the scenes. Looking forward to the next one.

[@stevec6232]

This guy sounds hard as nails...good negotiator.

[@deweberis2709]

This guy can swim deep into the F1 Pirana Club pond. 🎣

[@wasifanowar_testrider]

You absolutely nailed it & I think he did coz he didn't paid attention in things which didn't matter in his businesses

[@BwalyaManjoni-rl5yy]

The best beyond the grid episode , hands down .

[@szewei85]

Thanks. What a time 2 celebrate the 26th anniversary of ayrton tomorrow.

[@thiaguinhooitodois2211]

Never clicked on a video as fast as I did when I saw Senna and Prost in the title!

[@gilbertoi8605]

Saudades Senna...

[@scottfarndell1636]

One of the greatest men in Formula one. I really like this chap

[@rupertpupkin9630]

Brilliant podcast. Found the Craig Pollock, Jacques Villeneuve bits pretty interesting and sheds some light on that dynamic. Forgot Jakobi was originally part of BAR

[@SpacialObjects]

Thanks for this really enjoyed it. Fascinating guy

[@ramaanomuravha8575]

Very informative conversation, i learned a lot of things, such a nice guy

[@davidporeilly1]

Great interview, thanks Gents. At about 1 hr Mr Jakobi poses the question regarding Perez performance at McLaren "when has a new driver arrived and defeated an incumbent" he supposes only Ayrton has managed it. There is a much later example where a driver arrived at a team and defeated an entrenched 4 time champion and clear #1 driver; Daniel Ricciardo beating Vettel at Red Bull in 2014. Mr Jakobi also neatly skirts the question of Ocon in 2018 by referring to Force India being in financial trouble. I guess after all his loyalty is to Checo so it goes with the territory.

[@ajunta2270]

What about Lewis in 2007, instantly on the pace with Fernando (who is quicker than Jenson) and as a rookie to boot.

[@vivas8687]

Im a big fan of Senna and how come I've never heard of this guy. We need more credit to managers

[@1greenMitsi]

big fan huh..

[@gustavosiqueira653]

Nelson Piquet Sr, please :)

[@joejohnnys]

😂 Ninguém liga pra Piquet por aqui

[@davifernandeslima01]

@@joejohnnys fale por vc jovem. Piquet sr é respeitadíssimo na F1

[@joejohnnys]

Davi Fernandes por mim n, da uma olhadinha no canal ai.

[@joejohnnys]

Davi Fernandes Olha as grandes revistas e jornais sobre F1.

[@davifernandeslima01]

@@joejohnnys não perco meu tempo com viúva, jovem. namastê

[@tiadaid]

I've been going down the Beyond the Grid rabbithole, and this is actually enlightening. I never knew Jakobi managed BOTH Prost & Senna!

[@justdoit8014]

The best Beyond the grid by far !

[@valeriataylor8337]

40:00 Senna is much more respected than Pelé here in BR. There are doubts about Pelé's character but we heve no doubt about Senna's. He is unanimous.

[@TrueMexico]

Fantastic interview. I've loved Beyond the grid since the first episode. It's so insightful and Tom is a brilliant journalist. I won't be listening to F1 Nation though. I did listen to the first episode and surprisingly I didn't like it :( I found it more like listening to some podcast aimed at teens. Ooooh will George answer Rosanna's phone call. Cringe. I get why it's important because F1 wants the younger fans, who will stay fans for years (I began watching F1 aged 14 in the 90's). But I think Tom Clarkson should be spared and just let that F1 gaming commentator get on with it. Tom is like an FT reporter of the motor racing world... so it feels weird having him participate in what feels like cringy teen content.

[@tommykee12]

If Senna would’ve moved to Williams in 92”. Will probably be talking about the statistically greatest driver of all time. Just think would’ve won 92,93,94(if he was alive), 95, 96 and maybe of retired in 97 with another championship. All speculation though and Benetton was great in 94, 95 and Ferrari in 97 with Michael. Would’ve been phenomenal to see Michael vs prime Senna. Wow.

[@joejohnnys]

94 Benetton was Ilegal

[@davidtate3125]

@@joejohnnys despite the fact the FIA declared it legal?

[@albertofuentes986]

Ok

[@justdoit8014]

David Tate hahaha FIA and justice

[@justdoit8014]

No, than Bernie and Max would probably change the regulations and Williams car would have to have only 3 wheels.

[@matthewpratt7580]

Really do love your podcasts, such an insight into many many things that lots of people probably thought they already knew.....until you listen and you listen, and find out you knew little at all! Keep them coming! Looking forward to what you're working on, I know it's going to brilliant!!

[@danielmax3327]

the biggest duel in F1

[@stevibhoy1]

Extremely interesting individual. Most interesting and articulate interviewee, thusfar.

[@davidorama6690]

I think Bernie is outstanding, also. Jakobi reminds me a lot of one of the biggest characters I ever worked for in TV... larger than life, a bit cheeky, but principled and totally trustworthy. Sounds like a sharp fellow - a fine man.

[@keithkluber1195]

YOU ARE ONE OF THE REASONS I FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS SPORT JULIAN THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AFTER THESE INCREDIBLE MEN THANK YOU BUDDY 🏁🏁💚💚

[@OfflineSetup]

THIS is EXCELLENT.

[@TeifiValley123]

Fantastic. Really interesting. Much more so than 90% of drivers. Everyone in formula 1 has their own little perspective of it. This is one I haven't heard much from until now. Great job.

[@katout75]

Fascinating interview

[@testdrive7772]

This interview is gold

[@timmyestep4780]

That was a great interview Thank You

[@jayramdas2377]

Fascinating interview real eye opener into the goings on in F1 behind the scenes.!!

[@shooter7a]

Julian Jakobi is a brilliant businessman and Agent.

[@geoffdunstan8567]

Thank you Tom, please keep them coming. Best regards, Geoff D, Merimbula Australia

[@kimi88cz]

Can you call Eddie Irvine? Dude is bored on his island :D

[@thomasseyffert1095]

Surely Tom you are wise enough to realize how one sided the Senna movie was?

[@riidge4177]

Thomas Seyffert Tom a Senna fanboy though

[@Real28]

You only know what you know though. Without someone to actually show why it was one sided, youre left to just assume it is.

[@ajunta2270]

The podcast is not about Tom's opinion, it's about Julian Jakobi's take on it. Tom did his part by asking the question.

[@chriscole9678]

Really loved this! Great background to some of the great F1 stories.

[@SachiGortchi]

the most priceless of all interviews 🙏

[@rallycrosscraig]

What a great interviewee!

[@SirGingerOfKnight]

okay seriously you're just teasing us now!!! Ron Dennis please?!

[@MrRadialdrift]

It amazes me that people complain that free content, quality content, is not long enough for them.

[@alenx5455]

If Ayrton would have went to Williams in 1992 he might have been a 6, 7 or even 8 time world champion in the end, and probably would have not died... so sad

[@FirstnameLastname-wy7xf]

31:30 and thats how Williams started not paying their drivers

[@66PHILB]

Hey Tom, when are you going to get Keke Rosberg as a guest on Beyond The Grid?

[@sfmikica]

This was really interesting conversation

[@justdoit8014]

Only couple of British guys could get inside of Ayrton’s heart and James was one of them, along with Ron and Julian... Ayrton was good with Austrian clan in F1 world.

[@kiranbabu3426]

Lmao Alain could've easily beat down Senna, but, he recommended his manager, and recommended him to be his teammate. Respect 100+

[@karmicselling4252]

​@Rishi Eastwood Senna's main focus was to win races. Prost's main focus was to win Championship Titles. Both were great drivers. And Formula One will always be the richer for having had them.

[@kiranbabu3426]

@@karmicselling4252 Alain had the most competition tbh. Almost every teammate he had was a champion. And to beat all of them is nothing short of being great.

[@mrsta8541]

Speaks volumes both to Prost's character and his quiet self-confidence.

[@Kimi2008]

And now we will see how good Checo's exit clause is :)

[@chiefonii]

Another one. Loving the quarantine period with these podcasts 🥰

[@391angus]

Please try and get Jock Clear on! Feel like he will have plenty to share

[@rupertpupkin9630]

That would be brilliant

[@rcytb]

Great as always. Thanks!

[@marnixsiekmans8259]

Have you done a podcast with Adrian Newey or will it be his Turn later?

[@learigg]

The coverage of behind the scenes f1 is almost more interesting than the races, now thinking that an extended lockdown has some àdvantages.

[@metabel]

And he's currently the manager of Sergio Perez...

[@cobar5334]

This is a great cast

[@MrSstiel]

Dan Wheldon's manager too.

[@nassygc]

Wasnt't he Montoya's manager as well?

[@Jdn19]

Listen to it and you'd find out

[@christopherortiz9330]

Yeah. 56 minute mark

[@0lIvErGaRcEs]

por favor agregar subtitulos en español

[@randyyale3211]

That was awesome.

[@johnvaleanbaily4859]

Absolutley fascinating stuff.

[@LaMlleAlex]

This picture looks like a video game snapshot

[@lukewall2208]

“Cracker of a episode” 😂

[@bigg1764]

love it can't wait for more.

[@benjaminbaele889]

Interesting podcast

[@valcarter8858]

RUINED BY ADS

[@dbfhorses]

Thanks for the adverts every 3mins.

[@vivas8687]

Is there a nigel mansell podcast

[@Formula1]

Hey random person! Sounds like you'd be good friends with Firstname Lastname. We don't currently have a Nigel Mansell podcast, but we'd love to chat to him in future! Keep an eye on our uploads in the future :)

[@vivas8687]

@@Formula1 ahhh my buddy first name last name, a good F1 driver

[@gourami7]

Senna and Prost had the same manager ! How the hell did that happen ?

[@asifc1880]

Very simple. He was Alain's manager first and when Senna became his team-mate in '88 he recommended him. This was before the Bad Blood.

[@kekepiket9153]

@@asifc1880 Alain recommenfed him in 85 or 86 to Ayrton. Now perhaps we know why Alain chose Ayrton over Piquet for 88. Commission!!

[@ziggypop79]

Wow. Alain would have been brilliant as a F1 team boss.

[@tiadaid]

Alain WAS an F1 team boss with his own team Prost GP, and his team folded.

[@CrimeMastarGoGo]

Great Interview! Can someone please tell me what he said at 51:28 ?

[@sushanthsuresh]

Lewis has Britain, Verstappen has Holland, Kimi has the world!!

[@troydevol8760]

may you do a race replay with senna in it please

[@MrAykut23]

6:24 + Lewis 2017

[@lukasoberrauch5268]

Yeah

[@Luisml8]

Guys ENGLISH IS NOT THE ONLY LANGUAGE, could you please add Spanish subtitles to this?

[@xristoskalandrias2834]

Any acquantance with Jeremy Clarkson?

[@antoninoursida8013]

Channel Sport Gamer 3.0

[@arrivalsantoniyus6337]

🇩🇪👑🇩🇪Philippe Prince of Germany 🇩🇪👑🇩🇪

[@dmdevroomen6629]

Anyone knows which car he (hunt) drove?

[@grantchallinor5263]

Hunt was well-known for driving an Austin A35 van (a 1967 Countryman conversion) which he was still driving up until he died.

[@justdoit8014]

Senna vs Prost in the same car 1988/1989: Senna : 14 victories- Prost: 11 Senna: 26 poles- Prost: 4 Senna vs Prost in 161 races: Senna: 41 victories- Prost: 40 7 years in McLaren: Prost:30 victories-Senna in 6 years: 35 victories. Poles: Senna:65- Prost: 22 (161) Grand slams: Senna:4 , Prost:0 Monaco: Senna:6, Prost:4 Spa: Senna:5 ,Prost: 2 Senna: laps in the lead: 2931 (161) races. Prost: laps in the lead: 2684 (202) races. Other interesting facts: Monaco 1984-Senna could drive the worst possible car on the grid as a rookie in the worst possible conditions while Alain couldn’t drive the best car on the grid with much more experience than Senna.That 1984 race was 100% robbery. 1988-dry conditions, same car: Monaco, Senna out qualified Prost for 1.5 seconds. Donington 1993- Senna had 70hp less than Prost, the gap was 50 seconds. 1989 Suzuka: Prost hit Senna before entering the corner, 100% Prosts fault. Than one of the dirtiest political decision in F1 were made. 1990-Senna hit Prost after F1 seniors removed the pole position. PS. Alain was amazing driver, no one should hate each of this drivers but Senna was the best. Alain also had luck in 1986 as Mansell should won a championship. The Senna movie was 95% correct but they missed things. And the move can’t effect how fast and talented those two drivers were. It is sad that they missed “special hell to our dear friend Alain, Alain we miss you” ! Prost was also involved in lot of politics and had a lot of support from the establishment which Senna never had! This was an amazing interview. Thanks!

[@adelaidecity76]

I think leaving out fastest laps does a disservice to Prost: Fastest laps 1988/89: Prost 10, Senna 5 Fastest laps overall: Prost 41, Senna 19 Any set of stats should include that. Prost was a master in race conditions.

[@justdoit8014]

adelaidecity76 if you have a pole and you are leading the race than you don’t make fastest laps. Pole position is a measure on how fast is the driver! Fastest laps are not a speed measure and how fast was the driver. Pole is the only one.

[@PierrotHG]

That's not what Ecclestone and Eddie Jordan said in recent interviews, but hey a Senna fanboy knows better.

[@justdoit8014]

PierrotHD typical mediocre idiot, how stupid are you? They want to destroy Senna’s legacy as he is too much idolised and popular. Bernie bought Senna’s car for £5 million as he is privately obsessed.

[@alebangalter]

Amen

[@Cloxxki]

Hahaha, sounds like Julian may or may not have started the rumors of him and Lewis :-D

[@Endo240]

Is formula 1 gonna do Online Racing like how Formula E is doing?

[@Thomas-vd4hu]

Vettel doesn't have a following in germany at all.

[@adolfretzel4895]

I am going back on Friday to get a new one for the

[@davidorama6690]

There’s no reason why Racing Point can’t be as successful as Red Bull.

[@gustavosiqueira653]

His name is misspelled. It's *Julian*