Protestant Catholic Orthodox Venn Diagram

[@DruckerYTA]

I have a conspiracy theory about your ceiling fan

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

what's the theory?

[@DruckerYTA]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 The Nephilim are described as hybrid beings-part human, part divine (Genesis 6:4). This hybridity implies their essence could transcend traditional biological forms. While commonly assumed to be giants, scripture is vague about their exact nature post-Flood, opening the door to the possibility that their essence might have been repurposed into objects or constructs. The Bible indicates that the Nephilim existed "both before and after" the Flood (Genesis 6:4), which means their physical forms may have perished, but their spiritual essence remained. This essence could manifest in modern forms, such as electronic devices, which are capable of movement, exerting influence, and existing in seemingly mundane environments. Ceiling fans rotate endlessly, symbolizing eternal power and cyclical influence. In ancient symbolism, circular motion often represented divine or supernatural forces (e.g., Ezekiel’s vision of the "wheel within a wheel"). This motion could be interpreted as the remnants of Nephilim energy attempting to influence its surroundings, subtly commanding the air and environment like their ancient dominion over mankind. Ceiling fans are almost universally located in central, elevated positions within homes. In the ancient world, central elevated positions were reserved for altars, gods, or beings of great power. The placement of ceiling fans in such locations could indicate a subconscious acknowledgment of their "higher" nature. The Nephilim were beings of immense vitality and power. Ceiling fans rely on electricity, which is an unseen but powerful force, mirroring the supposed supernatural energy of the Nephilim. The fan’s ability to regulate temperature could even be interpreted as a Nephilim-like control over natural elements, harkening back to their supposed dominion over the earth. Most modern ceiling fans have 3 or 5 blades. The number 3 represents the Trinity in Christian theology, which Nephilim beings would mock due to their fallen nature. The number 5 is associated with power and authority, hinting at the Nephilim’s rebellious strength. The Hebrew word for spirit, ruach, also means "wind." Ceiling fans manipulate air (wind) constantly, which could symbolize the Nephilim’s attempts to exert their spiritual influence over the physical world. Ceiling fans are known for unusual malfunctions-sudden stops, wobbling, or unexplainable noises. Such events are often attributed to "mechanical issues," but could they instead be manifestations of the Nephilim spirit struggling to communicate or exert power? Conclusion: Your ceiling fan is the Nephilim This was totally not done by chatgpt btw*

[@DruckerYTA]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 I just typed out an entire essay explaining it, but youtube deleted my reply so nvm

[@PauTheDeo]

RZ deleted it because it was true

[@carmenoehling4296]

​@@DruckerYTA bruh

[@Liethen]

Protestants and Eastern Orthodox agree on not having a leader called the pope

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

Based

[@zacharyjones5102]

They believe in having patriarchs, just not that the patriarch of Rome is on top.

[@intreuefestundlachen1883]

Patriarch and Pope is literally the same word 😂

[@MangyPL]

@@intreuefestundlachen1883 bishop and pope are the same word. catholics, orientals and eastern orthodox all have "popes".

[@bansheebrethren797]

Well even that depends on who you talk to. Some believe that the Pope, the Latin patriarch has a first among equals role, which would still place him on top. Eastern Orthodox are not exactly globally consistent on this matter

[@kaktustustus1244]

Catholics also have Chrismation, it's just more common to call it Confirmation in the west

[@ExtratoneRegeneration]

Anglicans also have confirmation.

[@ForceRecon112]

is it the same with annointing with Chrism after going through the process of catechism?

[@SeekTheGoodInAll]

Reformed zoomer has no clue what he’s talking about lol

[@evanmasterpierround1169]

@@ForceRecon112the basics are similar. Someone who has gone through catechism appears before a bishop, who anoints them with chrism to seal them in the gift of the Holy Spirit. However, I think the Eastern Orthodox might have more ceremony and things they do afterwards.

[@ForceRecon112]

Gotcha! I’m still a catechumen, but I have attended some baptisms. From what I can tell, you are baptized, you are given a white baptismal robe, and then you are anointed with the sign of the cross on your ears, your eyelids, your lips, your hands, and your feet to seal the Gift of the Holy Spirit. It’s definitely a longer ceremony from what I understand

[@annissim4]

Hi. This channel has done more for my faith in 2 days than sunday school ever did

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

God bless! Your local church is still way more important than me tho

[@Mars-5103]

Probably just easier to understand.

[@annissim4]

@@Mars-5103 also more informed! It's nice to learn about different perspectives. At the Catholic church I was raised, they never taught of other types of christianity

[@SauceyMan76]

Although i agree church's nowadays lack giving understanding and information beyond interpreting the words of the bible which is good but leaves many questions and lots of answers to questions we didnt even know we had unanswered ​@redeemedzoomer6053

[@skittle781]

​@annissim4 because sunday school is to learn about God and the church he established, not schismatics

[@VeritasVivet]

Now you’re gonna have to make a Venn diagram with all the mainline protestant denominations haha

[@MatthewH-v5c]

Catholics *absolutely* have Chrismation as well. I think some protestants do too (Thinking of Lutherans in particular).

[@jdotoz]

@@MatthewH-v5c They claim to, but the non-Protestants don't recognize it.

[@DrGero15]

Anglicans often do as well.

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

It isn’t a “sacrament” tho

[@Anglicanism_go_brr_JLY]

We have confirmation, which is apparently pretty much the same but is not a sacrament

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

@@Anglicanism_go_brr_JLY yeah it’s not a dominical sacrament

[@KaizenLikeaBear]

went to a churtch yesterday for the first time in years ( a catholic one) and you are 100% spot on having a beautifull church makes the place more distinctive from this secular world and overall give you that gist of hey this is special.

[@RedeemedMusicanOfGod]

We are all forgetting the one true denomination, MacArthurianism, which requires submission to the one true Pope, John MacArthur!

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

true!

[@BasiliscBaz]

😂

[@LegendofNelda]

The ww2 general?

[@IsaacGould-s9y]

💀

[@potatoboy0609]

​@@LegendofNeldareformed Baptists pastor

[@BasiliscBaz]

Who gonna tell him crismation is one of 7 sacraments and 7 sacraments are same both for east amd west?

[@SalGargini]

Not true. Orthodox don't say there's a set number of sacramenta because funerals and tonsure are sometimes included

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

@@BasiliscBaz If is not ordained by Christ, It is not a Sacrament. 😉

[@kze24]

​@pedroguimaraes6094 Depends on how you define the word sacrament. But I agree.

[@habibi_sport312]

For some, Cristmation is included in baptism.

[@BasiliscBaz]

@habibi_sport312 i know, Eastern churches crimate whit baptisms, but west crismate already beptised people, its sacrament of spiritual maturity

[@justjason7662]

The important thing is the center part that has universal overlap. To be “Christian” you are saying you are Trinitarian and believe in the fully divine and fully human nature of Christ who rose from the dead. If you attend a church that does not follow ALL of those core Christian faith doctrines, they are NOT Christian. They can claim to be, but Christian has a defined meaning. If someone says they are something, but then says they aren’t that thing they say they are… then they aren’t that thing…

[@nohandle-n9l]

Redeemed Zoomer FYI, the Coptic Orthodox does uses a select few instruments and some Eastern Orthodox churches in America have an organ in their churches

[@cabriniryanvu]

I saw videos of Ethiopian Orthodox drum dance too. They are lit 🔥

[@iamstrang957]

However the exception doesn’t disprove the rule, if 99% don’t use instruments and the other 1% use does that mean that the entire religion now uses instruments?

[@luisdizon2486]

@@iamstrang957 Cymbals in Coptic churches are the norm, not the exception.

[@unknown-vo3di]

​@@luisdizon2486I am coptic. This is true it is the norm

[@DavdDz-fc9hu]

​@@iamstrang957 ameritard

[@drummersagainstitk]

Thanks for all your work. It's very important. KEEP IT GOING.

[@OttoBittoSplatoon]

Catholics have the Sacrament of Confirmation, which, from what I understand, is basically the same as Chrismation

[@RomaCatholica]

In portuguese, it's called crisma

[@Hookly]

It’s actually exactly the same. Similar with Pope just being a title for a patriarch, and all Orthodox and Catholics have patriarchs so it’s not really a real distinction. Plus, the EO call the Greek patriarch of Alexandria pope

[@TheBlueMarbleNationalist]

Catholics have what's basically a schooling on what Christianity is, while Orthodox Chrismation occurs directly after Baptism.

[@kaktustustus1244]

@@RomaCatholica in Croatia it's called Krizma and sometimes Firma

[@Hookly]

@@TheBlueMarbleNationalist The sacrament is exactly the same, no matter when it’s administered. For historical reasons, rooted in theology of the bishop being the ordinary minister of the sacrament, Catholics separated it from baptism. Orthodox decided to give broad permission to priests to administer it at baptism. Still the same sacrament

[@Ancestral-Wolf]

Hello, Spanish Roman Chatolic here I'm a really big fan of your content, you teach history and religions in a simple but understandable way (Sory for typos, English is not my native language) I really apreciate a person (and comunity) of diferent denominatios of a same religion saring their opinions, ideas and culture. I think that denominations is not the comunity, but a part of the idea of the comunity. I thank you a lot for your content and positivines fo rother denomination, beacuse we aren't perfecet and we have to make a chooise. Thanks.

[@S1neWav_]

i know you're protestant, but i really felt that you were very fair to catholics. i appreciate you doing your best to not spread misinformation about others' faith. god bless

[@MrSpaceCrash]

Catholic here. Want to start out by saying I love your channel but wanted to speak up at 5:40 . I appreciate that you called the books deuterocanonical instead of apocryphal like a lot of protestants. The way you said it sounded similar to a protestant talking point I have heard about the catholic church adding books during the council of Trent and while you didn't say that It also seemed a little misleading. The Deuterocanon was accepted by most of the early church all the way up to the reformation. Catholics and Orthodox included. The early church fathers that had problems with the Deuterocanon did not have problems with it for the same reason that Martin Luther did. Catholics didn't add old testament books during trent they were taken away during the reformation and that was based on Martin Luther deciding to Sola Sciptura his bible on the Masoretic (Jewish) scripture instead of the Greek translated Septuagint because he thought that the Jews would be better at recording the old testament than the greeks who just translated what they had and he would be going back to the original source. The Masoretic bible was compiled at the earliest in the 7th century AD by Jewish scholars and the Greek Septuagint was compiled in the 3rd century BC. Love the whole video and still think you are one of the fairest when it comes to representing Christian beliefs that aren't your own.

[@tomasroque3338]

Although the Dead Sea Scrolls validate the Masoretic Text's fidelidy over the Septuagint, Luther didn't know that at the time.

[@mariosportsmaster7662]

Minor correction: Catholics have married clergy, but it's complicated. Among Latin-rite Catholics if a man who is married gets the qualifications to be a clergyman he's ordained, but is not allowed to have kids after ordination and can't remarry once their wife dies. Eastern-Rite Catholics take a middle position between the Latin-rite Catholics and the Orthodox where a married man could get ordained and once his wife dies he could choose to remarry or not.

[@matthewmencel5978]

can't have kids? that is bananas! the whole POINT of marriage is exactly that traditionally.. Also, the Latin-rite Catholic position makes a mockery of Paul's qualifications for ministers.

[@jdotoz]

I very strongly doubt that "they aren't allowed to have kids" after ordination. Canon law does call for clerical continence, but this can be dispensed. I don't think the law would put it the way you did, since marital relations are only licit for anyone if they are open to life.

[@jdotoz]

​@@matthewmencel5978Then so does Paul's own ministry.

[@ogloc6308]

interesting

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

@@matthewmencel5978 yeah, I've never heard of latin rite being allowed to be married but childless. In the Latin rite, married clergy have to be previously married and ordained in a different denomination then convert but saying they can't have kids sounds sus. How does it make a mockery of paul's ministry?

[@YoshiokaTsuyoshi]

As Orthodox we agree on transmitted original sin, almost all of our recent Saints, ancient Saints, dogmatic confessions say we are under condemnation since birth, Saint Justin Popovich in fact calls all born human beings to be under the wrath of God by default. The idea that we deny original sin is a myth.

[@VictorLitteral-t9n]

Also, Eastern Catholic Priests can be married. So can deacons (latin or eastern) if they are married before ordination.

[@sarahthackeray6764]

I see you decorated your wall and ceiling fan very nicely in time for Advent! 😂 (Just kidding). All jokes aside, this is a good video. Learned something new! 🌟

[@crazyfroster9489]

The Deuterocanon was not the only Biblical books that were highly debated. Revelation, Hebrew, James, 2 and 3 John all were extremely controversial and were often excluded from Pre Carthage canons. There is no reason to exclude the Old Testament Deuterocanon to "have the shortest Bible everyone agrees on" while including the New Testament books that people also did not agree on.

[@masonmcgahey7]

The thing is though that all for of these groups agree on the Nee Testament while all 4 of these groups have slightly differing views of the Old Testament…

[@Skibidivm_Latrinae]

🦅🦅🦅

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

It is different, really. The church ended up agreeing about the New Testament in the end, but the Old Testament was not settled for the Roman Catholics until the Council of Trent and all churches ended up with different canons. Jerome, the church father who translated the Bible to the Vulgate, was against giving the deuterononicals the same authority of the books that are contained in the Hebrew Bible ( the 66 books Canon protestant hold ). So It is complicated.

[@crazyfroster9489]

@@pedroguimaraes6094 The Church did not agree on the New Testament until Carthage (which affirmed the Deuterocanon with the same authority). Then both the old and new testaments were infallibly declared in the Council of Trent, including the Deuterocanon. The Church did not agree on the New Testament while leaving the Deuterocanon as controversial, the Deuterocanon and Hebrew/Revelation/James were equally controversial at all times until after the reformation.

[@masonmcgahey7]

@@crazyfroster9489 Bro, literally all the branches mentioned have a different Old Testament canon and the same New Testament lol

[@christ_mark]

Well made video RZ! Thanks for making this Venn diagram which i can imagine was hardcore to make. God bless you

[@oatmilksupremacy]

I don't wanna be that guy, but in the Anglican tradition there are still some people who venerate saints, although it's more of a personal practice.

[@jamesnicolson100]

I am an Anglican who does this

[@jamesnicolson100]

Especially Charles King and Martyr

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

He mentioned that in the video.

[@Bruised-Reed]

Depends on definition of veneration. In general Anglicans do not and teach not to, this is reflected in the 39 articles, article 22 which roughly says adoration, worshiping, invocation of saints is grounded upon no scripture and is repugnant to the word of God. Veneration, no matter what definition you try to use, would be sailing pretty close for comfort to the intent of article 22.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

In at least part of Anglicanism, there are commemoration days of saints and other notable people in the church.

[@wonderous-snail748]

Love you! Redeemed Zoomer!

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

God bless

[@socialmediaaccount4206]

Congrats you were first 🎉🎉💥💥💥🦅🦅🦅✝️

[@dkodesh]

Thx for the information. Helps me explain and show the distinction to my family

[@MichaelAyala-Cruz]

Assyrian Church of the East: Am I a Joke to you? :(

[@ikengaspirit3063]

YES

[@LilibeeCoranyx6952]

*MAIN*

[@puremercury]

Church of the East and Restorationism are the taxonomic groups that already get left out.

[@thewayhome6980]

May I ask if you guys are Nestorian?

[@RJDJ__]

They are not nestorian​@@thewayhome6980

[@zed381no5]

I love catching a video a minute after posting

[@Kiwonfu]

This is very helpful as a new Christian

[@zanric]

The Patriarch of Alexandria, Patriarch Theodore the II of the Eastern Orthodox church is also known as the Pope of Alexandria just like his Coptic counter part in the Coptic Orthodox church. So technically "Having leaders called 'pope'" is common to all but the protestants.

[@Tsunami-dw3gq]

Hey Zoomer, great video! I would to see you talk about all the different orders in the Catholic church or all the different rites if you are interested.

[@shaulkramer7425]

I'm also seeing quite a few errors... Married clergy are allowed in Catholicism under certain conditions. Also Chrismation is definitely catholic.

[@ElwinJoby]

As a Syrian Orthodox, yes we use musical instruments

[@primariilapidis7284]

Yo! that's awesome! love from Poland!!!

[@Nguyenzander]

4 circle Venn diagrams are not perfect, for example there is no region with just Catholic and Eastern Orthodox on the chart

[@victorhugo4072]

You could make a perfect one, but it would not use circles, but ellipsis.

[@roboto12345]

​@@victorhugo4072math-wise I think this is wrong bc topologically an elipsis is the same as a circle

[@vinnybaggins]

True, I hadn't noticed. But maybe there's nothing particular only to catholicism and eastern orthodoxy, so he didn't bother to make a perfect one.

[@toothless5397]

@@roboto12345 Topologically yes, but geometrically no; ellipsis and circles are different.

[@shehannanayakkara4162]

@@roboto12345 They're saying that the only way to make a venn diagram with all 15 possible intersections is to use ellipses. Using circles, it is impossible to show 2 of the intersections, which in this example are Protestant+Oriental and Catholic+Eastern Orthodox.

[@calebdesjardins616]

The middle things all made sense the outskirts things made sense. But this was super interesting to see the second ring things that different denominations agree on. Good vid! I would say all Christians also all agree on Christs second coming and return. They may disagree on exactly when and how but all believe that he is coming back for his Church. And that is an essential doctrine id say

[@richgehan2679]

Nicene Creed covers that. :)

[@mimisamorubes7987]

Christ at the center, as it should be, and all of us brothers and sisters in Christ, as it should be!

[@giosio3974]

Chrismation is in the Catholic Church. It’s called confirmation

[@stnilus3294]

One quibble about the diagram. Orthodox do commemorate the pre-schism popes. We're just not in communion with them after the 12th century Lateran Council. It always turns heads when that title is used on certain Sundays, lol.

[@simeonyves5940]

The Blue needs to be Extended to cover "no musical Instruments in worship" as Traditional Scots Presbyterian and Dutch Reformed Groups are often Exclusive Psalmody even to this day!

[@Liethen]

it's not majority, let alone a distinctive universal feature.

[@TehOof_lord]

the same applies to eastern orthodox (at least in most churches)!

[@simeonyves5940]

@@Liethen True, most Protestants allow some Musical Instruments, normally a Pipe Organ, in Worship, but it does not alter the Fact there are still some who hold to Exclusive Psalmody.

[@Liethen]

@@simeonyves5940 I would say a piano is more common than a pipe organ. Every church i've attended had a piano, only one had an organ. many had guitars and banjos. but what i was saying is that it doesnt really fit in the circle since the circles in the ven diagram are for the core essentials that are required to fit in the category

[@simeonyves5940]

@@Liethen I forgot that most of the Viewers of this Channel are American, my Mistake, True, most American Churches are Piano (which I allow) or Guitar (which I Personally Forbid) , but a Banjo? that is a new one on me. Being English, most of the Churches I have seen have had a Pipe Organ, at least those that have not Scrapped them for a Smoke Machine and a Rock Band (both of which I also Forbid) that is :( True, it is not a Core, Essential Doctrine, Exclusive Psalmody Vs Hymnals is very much a Disputable Issue (and I am Split two ways on the Matter, the Presbyterian in me wants Exclusive Psalmody, but the Reformed Low Anglican Heritage I have loves pre 1928 Reformed Hymns with a Pipe Organ!) so I guess it does not fit in the Circle. Grace, Love, and Peace.

[@Rumcajschr]

The Eastern Orthodox Patriarch of Alexandria also holds the title of a pope, so "having leaders called «pope»" also applies to Eastern Orthodox Christianity

[@RomaCatholica]

Zoomer, we do have chrismation, in english we call it confirmation, in portuguese, for example, we call it crisma.

[@RomaCatholica]

Even anglicans and lutherans have it.

[@JustinCage56]

On a side note: It's fair to call "One True Church" denominations "Imperial Christians" since they all have some connection to the Roman Empire in some capacity. It's a nice catch-all term like word Protestant. Plus, it's a cool name.

[@RJDJ__]

They would be called Apostolic Christians then. Not Imperial Christians

[@JustinCage56]

​@RJDJ__ That works, too

[@ChaseRoycroft]

I think the Catholic church has had a longer canon since the Council of Rome, although it wasn't an article of faith until the Council of Trent.

[@SerGio-mw9pc]

It's also interesting to notice that both Oriental and Eastern Orthodoxies are representing the Eastern Church, where as Roman Catholics and Protestants are representing the Western Church. Aside from that, I think what Protestant n Eastern Orthodox have in common is the rejection or lack of a central and powerful authority. Like mentioned, both Oriental Orthodox and Roman Catholics have some sort of "pope". Where as the Eastern Orthodox do have the concept of "primus interpares" among the patriarchs, but he doesn't really have any significant power to assert dominance or influence over other churches or other jurisdictions within the Eastern Orthodox churches. It's very similar to the way that most, if not all, of protestant churches' leadership work. Edit/Addition: after reading some comments, it's safe say to say that both Eastern Orthodox n Protestants believe in a *decentralised* church leadership.

[@np5227]

Catholics have Chrismation as well, thats another word for the Sacrament of Conformation

[@ts-js353]

Precisions: Chrismation is Confirmation. We share that same sacrament across orientals, catholics and orthodox. Eastern Catholics (For example Ukrainians and Melkites) and Oriental Cartholic (For example syro malankar, armenian, coptic catholics and Maronites) practice chrismation with the baptism like their non catholic counterparts. As an example my nephew eventhough catholic, recieved baptism, chrismation(confirmation) and communion as an infant in an Armenian Apostolic Church (Oriental) with derogation from his bishop and his confirmation is perfectly recognized in the catholic church. Some Oriental and Eastern Catholic Churches have a different canon law and married men can also become priests but not the other way round. Finally even in the Latin Church, married men can become deacon and in some exceptional cases priests (ministers converting from protestant churches for example). Neither subject does divide us, Catholic, Orientals and Eastern.

[@DoyenDrew]

Do you have a video or could you make one about your thoughts on Messianic Judaism, Hebrew Christianity, and where/how the Hebrew Roots movement does/could intersect with the high and low church in the future. Thanks!

[@richgehan2679]

Yes!!!!

[@SacredBibleStories]

An excellent tool for exploring how history shaped the differences and common ground among Christians.

[@thomasstevenrothmbamd2384]

Wow, this is an excellent presentation including excellent diagram.

[@Giant_Meteor]

Some of the errors in this Venn diagram have already been pointed out in the comments, but maybe here's one more: Jan Hus is recognized as a saint in the Czech Orthodox Church, as he was martyred on the belief that several things had been changed in the west, and wanted to hold to what had been the previous doctrine and praxis. In many of the protestant churches, he is revered as a pre-reformer. More could be said here, but it's not "literally nothing".

[@rahawa774]

Interesting - thanks for adding on this info!

[@pjosip]

good work RZ!

[@sethmunoz4030]

Protestants have a 66 book canon to align with the Council of Jamnia (c. 90 AD), where Jewish scholars formalized their canon. One reason these Jewish scholars didn't include Deuterocanonical books is that they were widely used by early Christians. So todays Protestant Christians aligned with Jewish scholars to avoid books by the early catholic church

[@triggered8556]

True

[@ShawnComposer]

Sacrament of Chrismation should be in the category with RC, OO, and EO, and if you want to include Anglicanism, then Protestants will have Chrismation too. I couldn't figure anything out for protestants and orthodox, not even chatgpt could...

[@jjunboxing000]

Lutherans and presbyterians have chrismation too, its just called confirmation in the west, the difference is Chrismation in the EO church is done immediately after baptism and the ceremony is different

[@paulblayney6641]

Great presentation brother, as a protestant i learned a lot here, thank you. I'm still not sure i fully understand 'Purgatory' though, e.g. in the story of Lazarus and the rich man, does that mean that through prayer and offerings, here on earth, that the rich man could potentially go across the divide to Abraham's bosom?

[@jdotoz]

@@paulblayney6641 No. Purgatory is for the saved only. The suffering of Purgatory is constructive; the suffering of Hell is not.

[@scenicshorts2973]

MAKE A MAINLINE PROTESTANT DIAGRAM!!!!

[@godsgospelgirl]

This was interesting, thanks. You did a good job trying to be fair to every group's views. ...so where would you put Baptists and Calvary Chapel-ers and other large denominations, if not in Protestantism?

[@ts-js353]

Precision: Neither Eastern or Oriental Christians use the term of purgatory but they all pray for the dead.... This is to me a tacit agreement of a reason to pray for the dead common to Catholics, Eastern and Oriental Christians. Remove the vocabulary and the latin rationalisation and we agree in substance.

[@NX2-30]

Decree 18 We believe that the souls of the dead are blissful or tormented, looking at their deeds. Separated from the bodies, they immediately pass either to joy, or to sorrow and sorrow; however, they do not feel either perfect bliss or perfect torment; for perfect bliss, like perfect torment, everyone will receive after the general resurrection, when the soul is united with the body in which it lived virtuously or viciously. The souls of people who fell into mortal sins and did not despair at death, but once again, before being separated from the real life, they repented, only they did not have time to bear any fruits of repentance (which are: prayers, tears, contritions, consolation of the poor and expression in deeds of love for God and neighbor, which the entire Catholic Church from the very beginning recognizes as God-pleasing and beneficial), the souls of such people descend into hell and suffer punishment for their sins, without losing, however, relief from them. They receive relief through infinite goodness through the prayers of the Priests and good deeds done for the dead; and especially by the power of the bloodless Sacrifice, which, in particular, the priest brings for every Christian about his relatives, in general, the Catholic and Apostolic Church daily brings for everyone. Council of Jerusalem dogmatic for EO

[@motiveyeseyecare3481]

Not quite. We all believe that judgement day, the Second Coming, will send people to heaven or hell. The waiting place for souls is called paradise or Hades. Purgatory is an additional place specifically titled by the Latins.

[@ts-js353]

@@motiveyeseyecare3481 you are correct. I am just raising that eastern and orientals (catholic or not) pray for the dead too. There is consequently a reason for this prayer. The latins indeed with their analytical mind put a name and place on this reason. The eastern don't but we all acknowledge our need to pray for a reason and I believe this constitutes a common ground.

[@maxxiong]

I think a key difference is this: do you believe the "glorification" in Romans 8 is a process that happens after death, or an instant?

[@VSolo-cu9ec]

1) The Mystery of Chrismation = the Sacrament of Confirmation in the West. 2) In the Catholic Church, the Latin (Roman)Catholic Church has the discipline of celibate priests, but some Roman Catholic priests are married, especially in the Ordinariate. Additionally, Eastern Catholicism has married priests. Permanent Deacons in Latin Catholicism are usually married. Neither Catholics nor Orthodox allow there to be married Bishops. 3) Some Eastern Catholic Churches, based on their Liturgical Tradition (e.g., Byzantine or Greek Rite) do not use instruments. 4) Eastern Catholics do not use the Filoque when confessing the Nicene Creed. 5) The Essence and Energies Distiction, more properly called Palamism, is one of the available Spiritualities of Eastern Catholics of the Byzantine Tradition.

[@PauTheDeo]

Redeemed Zoomy Zoomy Zoomy, will you ever make a video about freeing Hudman?

[@JohnGisMe]

He probably has many otter videos to make.

[@suryoyo83]

Oriental Orthodox absolutely use musical instruments in liturgy

[@KidsMezmur]

Ethiopians and Eritreans do not use. I am not sure about the others.

[@jg7923]

@@KidsMezmur They use drums

[@suryoyo83]

Copts use symbols and Syriacs use a fan with bells affixed

[@suryoyo83]

Of course they also use more modern instruments as well (keyboard, drums, strings), but I was just referring to traditional liturgical instruments.

[@Montresor64]

I’m glad I picked Catholic over Orthodox just for the organ.

[@charbel123567]

Brother you should consider being a teacher you explain so good and can make younger generations aware of our faith. I have a question though that I would like you to answer if you do not mind. As I am a member of the Church of the East, I am curious where you would put our demonination?

[@bguysworth649]

I feel like there’s some falsity in this…. Catholics have many married priests, just in the rites that arnt the Latin rite. But the pope could come out tomorrow if he wanted to and say that the Latin rite can start ordaining married men to the priesthood. This is because it is a discipline and not a doctrine. Doctrines are set in stone and disciplines can change or be abandoned entirely. Also for those confused, the Catholic Church has many “rites”… in short they all have the same doctrines (theology stuff) but have differences is discipline (practice and stuff). Also all of the orthodox churches believe in the assumption of Mary in one form or another (even the Assyrian church of the east that broke off from the Catholic Church very early.). There are slight differences in the belief in the churches: such as if she was buried or not or if her soul went up to heaven before her body was raised and reunited, regardless, whether the other Orthodox Churches want to admit it or not, the immaculate conception is a necessary theological point to reach this conclusion…… I’ve been watching for less than two minutes but let’s see what else is said 😂

[@praevasc4299]

"the pope could come out tomorrow if he wanted to " - yes, he could. But that would split the Church, because half would disagree with him on that, and stick to tradition.

[@irishandscottish1829]

@@praevasc4299 you mean like the tradition where it was the norm for married priests until the Middle Ages??? See you admitted so called traditionalists aren’t interested in tradition only the disciplines they decide - married priests in the Latin rite existed longer than not

[@praevasc4299]

@@irishandscottish1829 I never claimed anything about it being a good or a bad thing, I just predicted what will likely happen.

[@bguysworth649]

@@praevasc4299 the only people who would “split” are people who don’t understand the difference between discipline and doctrine…. Which you are obviously that type even if not Catholic lol

[@trevorhanlin4247]

The catholic Church's canon is still technically open and the small difference between the orthodox and catholic bibles could be resolved. Trent technically defined what was for sure in, not what could not be in.

[@Condr324]

As a saint in Roman Catholicism your reward for a lifetime of good works and service is to hear, and deliver, the prayers of millions of people on a daily basis for the rest of time. 😅

[@richgehan2679]

I'll stick to scrubbing toilets...lol ;)

[@johncronin6977]

Love your work, thank you.

[@dont_take_too_long]

Yo, noticed something and might as well comment it as feedback, I don't often have time to watch these so I just open them, pause, look at the Diagram myself and exit the video I assume I'm not the only one doing this so it may be hurting the videos performance a lot if plenty of people do this, maybe it would be better for the videos performance to not show the diagram in the first frame, but that's just a thought

[@IHIuddy]

Nicene Creed is actually different for the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox as well.

[@gbnessdot96]

The 3 main man-sponsored ideologies are: ISLAM, PROTESTANTISM & ATHEISM

[@PInk77W1]

Christ works thru men. “He who hears u hears me He who rejects u rejects me” Lk 10:16

[@Michiganman800]

I love these chart/diagramn videos

[@SalGargini]

Thos is really creative. Great job!

[@SalvadorGuerrero-me1yk]

I love this Venn diagram. The problem is that the four-circle design negates the possibility of something shared only in the two opposing circles and not in their adjacent ones.

[@timhartman3359]

When will you do “Why I’m not Quaker”?

[@chrisiswright]

Catholics agree with the Orthodox that we will never comprehend the Divine Essence although we will “see Him as He is.” Palamas would say we will never see God in His essence but this comes from a different definition of the word “see”

[@VictorLitteral-t9n]

Oriental Orthodox use instruments in worship. Cymbals and others

[@christoskasiouras]

The Orthodox Christians also have a Pope. The Orthodox Patriarch of Alexandria is also called Pope not only Coptic Patriarch. His title is: Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria and all Africa

[@ChaseRoycroft]

I think the sacrament of Chrismation is essentially just the sacrament of Confirmation.

[@michaelmartin3122]

While the overlapping circles seems like a good idea, it draws lines and misrepresents everyone.

[@billybrant6818]

I really like these diagrams

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

You could include christmation in catholicism and protestantism. It's just called confirmation.

[@kaktustustus1244]

Chrismation comes from greek and confirmation from latin but it's the same thing, in my language we also use a word similar to chrismation even though we're Roman Catholic

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

Imagine if every church turned out to be right about their unique doctrines, and we found out in the end? Like, the Eastern Orthodox were right all along about the Essence-Energy Distinction, the Catholics were right about Purgatory and the Immaculate Conception, the Oriental Orthodox were right about Miaphysite Christology, and the Protestants were right about Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, and the 66-book canon. That would be funny, and all of us would joke about it in heaven in the end.

[@junhaojiang5417]

Hahahaha that's good.I believe every main denomination is true about something but go wrong in the other things.Together we're Christ's church with diverse beauty.Love and blessings from God to all my Bros and Sis in our Lord Jesus Christ!

[@aaaaaaa7697]

the doctrines conflict with one another.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

​@@aaaaaaa7697They don't actually.

[@aaaaaaa7697]

@@pedroguimaraes6094 miaphysites christology directly conflicts with all chalcedonian christology, the essence energy distinction totally conflicts with ADS, the 66 book canon entirely contradicts with the ecclesiastical authority of the Church according to the Apostolic Churches, the immaculate conception and purgatory are derived from the western conception of original sin, which entirely conflicts with the EO conception of ancestral sin, all of this conflicts at its core, it changes soteriology, ecclesiology, christology and arguably the understanding of the triad (in EE vs ADS). They're all totally conflicting, and it's not minor, it's absolutely fundamental conflict.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

@aaaaaaa7697 I'm talking about the doctrines I mentioned in relation to each other

[@roideschiffres6760]

Good video, but, for the math nerd in me, this isn't a venn diagram, your missing 2 regions. The Catholic and Eastern Orthodox only section and the protestant and Oriental Orthodox section.

[@Meldolya]

Lutheran and Eastern Orthodox Christians are similar by being organized in national churches, at least in Europe and historically.

[@vasyaott]

Original sin is also doctrine of eastern orthodox

[@billmartin3561]

This is a very cool diagram

[@danielmclean3227]

There is a good portion of Protestants that would agree with the Eastern Orthodox view of Original Sin.

[@richgehan2679]

If you mean by Christ eliminating Adam's Original sin by His death on the cross, becoming the new Adam, then, yes, I agree.

[@hamie7624]

The Catholic Canon of scripture came from the Council of Rome in 381, not Trent.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Baruch was not included thus contradictory to Trent. Thank you for pointing out yet another contradiction in your own history of "infallibility".

[@hamie7624]

@JRRodriguez-nu7po yes it was. Basic fact.

[@LewisCho]

Is that a new denominational seal for Oriental Orthodox? Very cool, but I haven't seen it before

[@tianming4964]

Not sure about Eastern Orthodox but I know that Oriental Orthodox have music in worship. Coptic Christians use cymbals and triangles and Ethiopians use drums (search Mezmur drum dance to find a video of it). The Ethiopians don't consider it to be music and dance because they associate music and dance with Earthly things and the Mezmur with heavenly things, so they make a distinction and have different words for it. But for someone outside that culture it would be probably classified as music and dance.

[@deaconstjohn7539]

God sent Jesus to save Adam the first man from hell, it is written also Adam was a giant this is also written. You go to purgatory to do time basically for your sins so your soul is cleansed and can go to heaven unless it's a sin that guarantees your going to hell. God bless you!

[@theskyisteal8346]

I think a lot of protestants probably disagree on original sin. Not having done much in depth research, I would certainly land on the idea that we are not all guilty of Adam's sin but we are all subject to the effects of it because we are as susceptible to sin as Adam was.

[@andrewbell23]

Could you do a video about the Ten Commandments and how they are different in different Christian denominations and in Judaism?

[@jimmu2008]

It's a good idea, but it may be too complex for a short video.

[@ezequielfelipe9054]

RZ is always two weeks away from becoming even more calvinist

[@jonathanbennigsen5625]

Zoomer: "The Nicene Creed is at the centre which all Christians agree on." SBC: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@GospelOfYeshua1]

SBC don’t follow the Nicene Creed?

[@jonathanbennigsen5625]

@GospelOfYeshua1 There was recently a big docsssuion within the denom, about whether they could affirm it or not.

[@GospelOfYeshua1]

@@jonathanbennigsen5625 Oh wow! That is a shame…

[@jonathanbennigsen5625]

@@GospelOfYeshua1 Yeppppp

[@aprendiz4]

0:50 What do you mean "I encourage you to put your trust in Christ", Redeemed Zoomer? You should say "I encourage God to regenerate your spirit so you can believe", otherwise encouraging people is pointless, isn't it? Hooray, Calvin!

[@roboto12345]

I think he probably meant both lol...

[@aprendiz4]

@@roboto12345 He couldn't mean that consistently. 5-point Calvinism teaches that you're completely stuck, rejecting God, until He changes you

[@ThatOneCalvinist]

@@aprendiz4Yes, but it’s just a figure of speech. It’s like saying good luck, even though there is no such thing as luck, it’s a figure of speech, and not everything you say has to be perfectly aligned with your exact beliefs by its literal meaning, figurative language exists.

[@thebannings6176]

We should always pray for others to be saved, and, should encourage all to trust in, repent and obey Christ and walk in faith. That call goes out to all. We are all accountable before God for our choices. If someone doesn't choose to trust in Christ, then that's what they most want. No one gets to blame God for not saving them. All who want to be saved, will be saved or we're saved. God turns no one away who desires to be in union with him. That's Calvinism.

[@aprendiz4]

@@thebannings6176 Calvinists believe you WILL 100% reject God completely unless He changes you. Desire to be with God comes 100% from God's actions in Calvinist doctrine

[@VictorLitteral-t9n]

Many protestants venerate saints. Just depends on how you define veneration. Saints are liturgically commemorated in several Reformed denoms.

[@sumpurnashrestha]

“I love Venn Diagrams” - Kamala Harris

[@rahawa774]

Oh - don’t ruin this video for us! 😂

[@unknown36187]

Zoomer showed a little of his Messianic!

[@pedromorais9836]

Brazilian Roman Catholic here, we too have chrismation not only the orthodoxes