ProtoBanham vs Light - GRAND FINALS Ultimate Summit 5 - SSBU Singles | Lucina, Min Min vs Fox

CR ProtoBanham (Lucina, Min Min) vs Moist Light (Fox) - SSBU Singles Final Bracket Grand Final - Smash Ultimate Summit 5
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[@E-chan315]

Since losing to Light at the last Summit, Proto had been practicing with Paseriman every time he saw him to win at the next. I'm very happy to see that effort pay off at this critical momet!

[@tanmin8268]

Proto has slayed the Japan killer Light!

[@janswhatsupdoc]

@@tanmin8268 and now he’s become the American killer

[@tanmin8268]

@@janswhatsupdoc Mexican killer too

[@wheresmyshield176]

Proto went to the bathroom to call him up saying "it's just like last summit, help me"

[@scouthatesrainbows]

@@wheresmyshield176 Proto whipping out the switch and the pro controller in the bathroom stall for some quick friendlies before the next set

[@MerryBlind]

I can understand being annoyed by taking too long between games during a set, but having a break between two sets actually makes more sense to me than to just start the second one right away. Light really shouldn’t be upset at Proto for going to the bathroom between the sets.

[@ramenmusix1198]

yeah light was salty as hell about that. he needs to get over it if he wants to be the best

[@harrycake9407]

Yup he acted like a baby.

[@joey5745]

I don’t get why he doesn’t just stay warm by playing a CPU while waiting, He can versus a lvl 1 CPU and just practice his back airs and stuff to stay warm, it’s simple, I don’t get why he doesn’t do that,

[@xdiamond8163]

@Twisted Coaster Fan what did he say on Twitter?

[@wheresmyshield176]

@Twisted Coaster Fan Kidney stones? He could've gone before the grand finals started. If I was Light I would've done whatever I could to deny that break, because it's 'not very sportsmanship like to deny a break' but it's ok to not go before a very official appointment is happening between professionals? Proto knows what he's doing, it's a strategy, and you want to know a counter strategy? Deny the break. A ten minute set, 3 - 0 for Light. What's another ten minutes before proto can use the bathroom? You're telling me it's that serious? Its a matter of principle, one person is in his zone and playing the game and your strategy to that is to take him out of it instead of overcoming it? It's so cheesy that everyone HAS to acknowledge him as an Ice man. It's not like it's every other tournament where proto may be hit with the runs, or is feeling the pressure and just needs to go to the bathroom to recollect himself, no its every time he's down a set he needs to go stall. Edit : and IF the kidney stones ARE that serious that mf can't wait 10 minutes to go to the bathroom at a time like this, then he shouldn't be caught drinking a red bull.

[@lloydaran]

I love Summit, as its name implies, it's the top of the top battling each other, there's no "upsets" because everybody is the best, every match is at the top of the ladder. Proto proved he is a contender and an amazing player, unquestionably part of the upper echelon.

[@Popinazo]

say that to dabuz

[@Br3nji]

@@Popinazo and mkleo

[@madmoxxi7397]

@@Br3nji who upset mkleo tho? Tweek and leo consistently go quite even and gluto is very capable of beating him

[@antmck99]

@@madmoxxi7397 Riddles then Tweek

[@antmck99]

@@madmoxxi7397 i think light is second in ranking. Just light always lose at grand finals

[@user-vv5ij7ju7i]

41:40秒のvoidと抱き合うシーンには泣きそうになった。tweekがサミット優勝した時みたいに沢山の選手達が祝ってくれるわけでは無かったけど少ない人数でもこうやって祝ってくれる選手達には感謝しかない。 ライトの気持ちもわからない事はないけどすごくいい試合だったのになんか勿体ない。

[@thatman8636]

Congrats to Proto again for winning another NA tourney! He plays both characters at an elite level and is just a very smart player overall. He keeps reminding the doubters he is top 5 despite how he performs in Japan, he sure does make it for it on the biggest stages. Give him his Respect 👏

[@Ze33roX]

@@dreggsmcgee7310 ...what?

[@user-vs3cr6fl4u]

@@dreggsmcgee7310 しょうもないよ、認めろよ

[@thatman8636]

@@splaturials9156 u mean his condition? ofc u didn’t know. Make yourself look foolish lmao. It was 5 minutes. It’s a part of strategy. You’d the same if your opponent had all the momentum in Grands. Leo did it at DD too. Keep hating little guy lol

[@KS-xw9js]

@@splaturials9156 JP >>>>>> US

[@bathtowel]

Light at 12:25: "if I'm going to lose, this is why". Not the mentality of a champion.

[@rougershappy7613]

The Hare and the Tortoise kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXebmpSnh9Z8bJI Is a good video for Light

[@paintb0x]

He lost right there tbh

[@watermel]

Frfr

[@ilovevtubers1234]

Light at Gimvitational about Acola: “Honestly I’m just a better player than him”

[@georgesbouchet7430]

Wow. I like Light as a player, but the more I scroll through this comment section and learn about his behavior, the more I'm starting to dislike him as person. I didn't know he was an arrogant sore loser

[@gadgets__]

Quite pleasantly surprised that most all the comments here are defending and congratulating Proto. After Light took to Twitter and watching the Twitch chat I was worried a lot of others were hopping on the excuses as Light did. Making something huge out of a standard 5 minute break, not to mention Proto's health condition. As well as there only being a few people who came out to see Proto after he won, truly disappointing if you're a smash fan. Much love to Proto and the other Japanese players.

[@_delolala]

Dude yeah, I mean would I rather someone else win? Yes. But did Proto play absolutely out of his mind this tournament? Absolutely 100 percent. Outclassed everyone he went up against. And he demands respect at this high of level play.

[@czyu3361]

The worse part is that the japanese viewers didn't appreciate the icing jokes due to language barriers obviously and they're mostly sad. I know that the commentators didn't mean it and Coney apologised on his stream recently as well. But fr I'm happy to see people paying proper respect to the japanese players in the comment section, they have to fly across the globe to a foreign land relying on translators for communication. It's difficult

[@jasonazevedo2881]

What a fantastic tournament!! All those game 5's had me on the edge of my seat constantly. All those players played amazing and each deserved a trophy of their own! What an amazing SUMMIT!

[@ilovevtubers1234]

(Spoilers) Honestly, it’s really sad to see literally nobody came over to congratulate Proto after he won (compare it to when Tweek and Spargo won the last 2 summits). Also I didn’t know about Proto’s health condition so it’s sad to see Light’s salt tweeting and the commentators making jokes about it feeding into the “ice man” reputation more. Regardless, congrats to Proto and excited to see him at Lud’s tourney next month!

[@Felix_R]

Yep, agree with the part of no one coming to stage to congratulate him (like basically only void and nakat did). Not only that, summit always ends with a bunch of players and staff members in the back, this ending felt like a “keep tune we have mafia next”

[@YohanKite]

Exactly. Japan has been the best smash region for a while now, but NA is too stubborn to acknowledge them. Partly why Japanese results tend to be inconsistent for even top players is because the floor is much higher. They also have nothing but respect after defeat for us while we clearly don’t give it back.

[@mordeymay3739]

What health condition?

[@ilovevtubers1234]

@@mordeymay3739 he has kidney stones I believe so he always has to stay hydrated in order to keep it from worsening

[@Ke-ux7oe]

I’m for Japan region, but you’re thinking too much into it. They’re just having fun, light is always just smug but he has fun. Although this was the best I’ve ever seen light play especially against his fellow NA and gluto but japans a different breed. FYI they literally congratulated him. They just gave him his space, he was blowing his nose and wearing a mask you never know what he might have. Did you see his coach or fellow Japanese players congratulate him for you in front of the camera?

[@watermel]

This has got to be the most legendary tournament in smash ultimate EVER so far, the absurd amount of nail biting game 5s and upsets were absolutely mind blowing (tweek vs mkleo for example)

[@joshuaatehortua7352]

The Leo vs Tweek set made Leo drop Aegis

[@antmck99]

@@joshuaatehortua7352 true. But also Leo lost to Riddles with that character

[@2FadeMusic]

That was one of the best sets ever

[@-Carne-Asada-]

@@joshuaatehortua7352 aegis recovery sucks so bad. he got cheesed too many times. his best characters have the best recoveries in the game. joker / byleth

[@julioarcaiko]

Almost every set could’ve been a grand finals. It was crazy.

[@SnowyJop]

Really happy for Proto here. He played very well and I hope he’s proud of his result.

[@cantrip5849]

none of the players came and congratulated him man :( thats really sad. i can imagine how isolated you feel as a foreign player at summit and for the last two summits there was a crowd waiting for the winner to congratulate them but this one..no one came and clapped for proto :( thats sad to me

[@muteking9241]

He just won summit so I'm sure he didn't mind

[@joey5745]

Let’s be fair, do the Japanese players come congratulate the other players when they win? No, why? Because they aren’t friends, just rivals/competitors. When Light wins his Friends (Cola and Cosmos etc) come congratulate their boy,

[@gorillasgonewild]

Maybe he shouldn’t play min min

[@cantrip5849]

@@joey5745 both proto and tea were there to clap for spargo last year...ken and zackray were there when tweek won the year before...everyone came to congratulate the winners the last two years

[@cantrip5849]

@@gorillasgonewild i mean he plays lucina more than min min overall and yea im not a min min guy but the dude is different.

[@watermel]

Despite the intensity of this tournament, its sad to see so much toxicity. Light blaming proto’s 3 min bathroom break for the reason he lost (not only did he interrupt the commentators at 12:25 to say “if I lose this is why” and straight up insulting him at 14:20, he even went to twitter to spread more toxicity) and also how theres no crowd for proto at the end, its just really sad

[@frijolespepepapa9464]

yup, and proto took that break after the reset, which is allowed in tournaments, it was not a “scummy strategy”

[@xoonn9]

Totally agree, imagine blaming your lost on a 3 minute break. Light has always been like that

[@Mikey-1990]

I'm a Light fan, but yeah that wasn't cool. Also the fact Proto has to drink alot of water, due to the fact he's highly susceptible to urethral stones, which can be extremely painful. He had to have surgery back in 2019 for it as well. You can't get mad at someone for a medical condition.

[@user-vs3cr6fl4u]

見てて悲しかった

[@CriofLament]

In my opinion no shade on light I love to watch the guy, but if you get messed up by a 3 minute break between sets.. That sounds like a light problem that he cannot adapt and play consistent everytime he plays even during some breaks. You should train to be able to handle these kinds of examples such as your opponent taking a small break. Everyones health comes first.

[@Wlightning25]

Congrats Proto! He’s become one of my favorites over the past few months. It is disappointing to see none of the other competitors there to celebrate the W out of respect for their fellow competitor. Oh well hopefully next time will be better.

[@DGSnowolf]

Damn almost EVERY game this tournament went to game 5. Everyone did amazingly. What a great sport.

[@jzwizzles8795]

Best Ultimate Tournament we will probably ever see. And couldn't have had a better ending Congrats Proto!!!

[@zackgrail6241]

It's a shame that the crowd didn't come up to congratulate the winner after some exceptional gameplay from both players.

[@Turnpost2552]

Dude a five year old can play Min min. Light has skill proto is just cheese.

[@mercurysnake274]

@@Turnpost2552 As if Fox is any better 💀

[@shoegaze3750]

Apparently the players didnt want proto to win because of some drama that happened behind the scenes

[@AlainReyes]

@@shoegaze3750 what drama?

[@1215ish]

@@Turnpost2552 lol Light's fans are salty crybabies.

[@orb3796]

Some thoughts on this: 1. While I also believed that Proto was icing on purpose, he still had plausible deniability that he didn't. As it turns out, he had extremely painful bladder stones multiple times in the past which forces him to drink a ton and go to the bathroom often (usually every hour). 2. Proto won this fair and square, if Light struggles with icing then that's Lights problem, not Protos. Do you think Icing would work on someone like Leo or Dabuz? Most definitely not because they play at their respective levels with consistency. This just means Light has to do what some other top players already did and work on his mental to ensure that he can play at his best at all times, and not just at random moments which are out of his control. He can't expect to not put in this work and still get results. 3. The US scene is generally very toxic but the fact that twitch chat was so antagonistic towards Proto (and international players in general) that the Chat was flooded with enraged Japanese people is impressive. If you manage to somehow piss of the Japanese scene you fucked up massively. I know you'll say "No shit US smash twitch chat is toxic, it's twitch chat" but that just proves my point because twitch chats aren't inherently toxic, you just think they are because the US smash community is a cesspit of proud, USA chanting patriots that spend their free time harassing and even sending r*pe threats to a teenaged Steve main

[@georgesbouchet7430]

Amazing game. Great players (but not necessarily folks besides humble individuals like MKLeo). Entertaining tournaments. Shitty community

[@tyrania2645]

100% agree. it's not even out of the ordinary for there to be a couple minutes between a grand finals set. he should've just stayed at the setup and focused instead of making excuses on the mic. and the whole chat during any of acola sets is just depressing man. whether you think steve should be banned has nothing to do with the person playing him, they're the ones playing for the pride and money so if it's in the game it's in the game. to say disgusting things about a teen for that sole reason is just so fucking stupid.

[@Substantial-hf1rm]

Hold on fam, I genuinely do think twitch chats are inherently toxic unless heavily moderated. I agree with everything else tho

[@superdupe8]

@@splaturials9156 yeah, 3 minute break is totally icing someone. Btw, you know light has iced players way worse than proto has lol

[@julioarcaiko]

Best take on the matter so far. Proto played out of his mind but pretending he didn’t purposely kill Lights momentum is a huge cope. Lights gotta work on his mental though and stop the excuses. Hopefully this game served as a lesson for the future.

[@sobanoods9454]

All this time I never knew Proto was short for Protagonist. Also the script writers are going to have a hard time writing a sequel to Summit 5. Set after set, this was some of the best Smash I’ve ever watched.

[@BOBSUSHI32]

definitely the best summit so far and honestly probably my favorite tournament in general.

[@yuanwang9324]

Correct me if Im wrong, is it not short for ProtoBanham? Protagonist Banham doesn't make sense either, his name isn't Banham, it's Naoto Tsuji

[@jj6148]

@@yuanwang9324 It was a joke lol

[@BadGoyz4Life]

Won't be too difficult, looks like everyone just keeps getting better!

[@drigo2104]

Protobanham is just a nasty mean name. Well done.

[@uprollsariotvan]

You can see how nervous Light was for this set, even though he 3-0'd Proto in the first GF he was extremely nervous while waiting for the reset to start. He really let the icing go into his head, immediately after Proto went to the bathroom he said "if I lose, this is why", like accepting he was gonna lose already. He shouldn't've went to the mic imo when someone ices you you just need to stay focused

[@BadGoyz4Life]

I was thinking that too. NO JOHNS. Also he's always shaking his hands like they're on fire so you'd think he appreciates the break.

[@jjbathemeextensions8866]

You guys know proto has kidney stones right? So he has to frequently use the bathroom because his doctor advised him to do so

[@uprollsariotvan]

@@jjbathemeextensions8866I know, and even if it wasn't bc of that, taking 3 mins to go to the bathroom between sets is completely fine. Light shot himself in the foot by complaining and thinking of losing before the reset started

[@josherney9820]

Agreed. Proto outplayed him in game and out of game.

[@jjbathemeextensions8866]

@@uprollsariotvan had to let the people who don't know Know

[@tormint5294]

That was a super fun set to watch, ggs to both but this is the first time I've seen a Summit winner not get a crowd at the end. I agree that the long Proto breaks in-between come off as a bit rude but the ruling allows for it and Proto did play like a beast. Light also blamed Proto's break for him losing both during the break and afterwards on twitter. *EDIT:* I didn't even know before but Proto apparently has kindey stones, that's why he has to stay hydrated all the time and is reason for the many longer breaks. I know that the majority of people shitting on Proto and making the "iceman" memes don't know that. Now I feel even worse. It feels so sad and disrespectful how there is no crowd, I know that if Light won there would've been the usual gathering of people celebrating the win. I am really disappointed in that (and disappointed in NA Smash, especially since Japan has always shown proper respect when NA players win a set or an event.) Good job to Proto though :)

[@jjbathemeextensions8866]

He has kidney stones That's why he takes a while in the bathroom because his doctor told him to

[@justaliljello5198]

Sir did it ever occur to you that people would be crowding around him because they're his friends? And even if they did would you consider it would happen of camera? Where is the disrespect exactly

[@user-qb3wz5fc2c]

You really said it. I was a bit sad and disappointed at the same time seeing no crowds are celebrating him after the set. Also this iceman meme is little disgusting to watch while the best players are showing their highest performance. But I’m happy to know some people like you notice the problem here and showing respects to Proto. I rlly appreciate it.

[@choosen4905]

I watched Dabuzs stream and he talked about an incident with Proto. Proto apparently told his translator to record a friendly between Dabuz and Riddles (Preparing Riddles for the Min Min matchup) for private studying before bracket (Dabuz said that the translator didn’t want to do it). Someone came up to Dabuz and told him that they were being recorded. Dabuz popped off and was really furious. Dabuz and Riddles were angry that Proto didn’t even ask for permission to record (Dabuz said he wouldn’t have given permission). Dabuz thought it was a grimy tactic. Dabuz and Riddles told the others about it, and the other players were extremely unhappy. He also said that most people wanted to see Light win, but they really didn’t want to see Proto win partly because of the incident. Edit: Riddles said on stream that Proto did apologize right before their set with long English text on his phone. Riddles also said it did put him in a weird mental right before the set.

[@SonamSlash]

@@choosen4905 link?

[@calebw8189]

Proto's Lucina blows my mind. Good stuff to both of these guys.

[@juvenilevanguard]

stoked he got the dub!! it's just crazy to me that i've seen people say that since he plays min-min, he's carried by her and doesn't/can't bring the smoke. His Lucina's got that in spades!

[@janswhatsupdoc]

@@juvenilevanguard his Lucy really does cook but peeps certainly are dumb for thinking Min Min carries players to begin with, not back then and especially not after she got nerfed

[@juvenilevanguard]

@@janswhatsupdoc most def!! recently saw comments like that on his prior sets this summit and i was like ???

[@calebw8189]

@@juvenilevanguard Yes! It's similar to so many other players. MKLeo was "carried by Joker" and Sparg0 was "carried by Aegis". And then their lower-tier characters have brought them to new heights.

[@the_bookworm8281]

During the second set, Proto's Min Min was super conditioning Light in time for the Lucina. Thanks to Min Min, Light started to shield a lot more and play a different approach to the game, but then Lucina, who enjoys the opponent shielding a lot more and plays a different game, capitalized on it, and thus executed her gameplan a lot better than during the first set. This is part of why Proto's approach as the master of two different characters is such a hard force to overcome. You may be prepared for one character, but then he switches it up on you, and then when you get a better handle on that, he can switch again.

[@josuerecinos8117]

Bro pleasw, can you explain how the fuck light lost even when he won the first game 3-0

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@josuerecinos8117 Towards the end of game 3, Proto was showing signs of life with the Min Min. That carried over to the second set, plus going to PS2. By the time the Lucina returned, Light already had to deal with 3 games of Min Min + a 5 minute break in-between. The first set going 3-0 is not always indicative of the outcome of the second set.

[@josuerecinos8117]

@@the_bookworm8281 So is the first to go 5 the one who wins?

[@TotshotAirsoft]

@@josuerecinos8117 there is two sides of the bracket. Winners side and losers side. In the grand finals the final person left on winners side (proto in this case) faces off in a best of 5 against the final person left on the losers side (light in this case). If the person on winners side (proto) takes the best of 5 the tournament is over and he is the champion. However, if the person on loser’s side wins the set like you just seen Light do, then that is what we call a bracket reset. The person on loser’s side must win twice to take the championship. Its because in order to get beat out of bracket you must lose twice, but Proto hadn’t lost at all until grands so Light had to beat him out twice. Hope that makes sense.

[@josherney9820]

Even if Proto didn't have kidney stones, I'd still love the way he plays the game. I've heard Proto's breaks are because of kidney stones and doctor's recommendations, but I really like the "Iceman" persona for him. Before knowing about his condition, it seemed like a lot of competitive Ultimate fans were giving him grief for simply taking advantage of something explicitly allowed by the rules - taking a short break between games, and a longer break before a grand finals reset. Those situations seem odd because other players don't often do the same, but Proto leverages the rules to his advantage all the time. He switches characters between games so the opponent cannot immediately take advantage of patterns learned in the previous game, and possibly (as suggested by the commentators) switches characters between games to take advantage of the conditioning achieved by a previously used character. The anecdote somewhere in these comments about the situation between Proto and Riddles & Debuz is interesting in this light as well because it paints the picture of Proto being a competitor that will make use of every rule (or lack of rule) to create a more favorable situation for himself to win. It seems like when he's simply around other competitors he starts playing his games of choice: mind games, and Smash Ultimate. There are a lot of valid arguments against these tactics, one being that it compromises the integrity of the tournament. Most people/teams that utilize tactics like this in other sports seem to end up being seen as villainous by fans (e.g. fake punts in American football). But that's what I like about Proto, not only is his game play generally fun to watch because he can perform at such a high level, he also brings drama to the game in a legal way that sparks interesting commentary and challenges the current meta.

[@thelivelysnivy83]

Despite all the talk about dlc we get a classic swordie vs spacie grand final (apart from the few min min games) Congrats to proto

[@MegaLuc3]

To be honest Proto didn't even do his icing out that they've been commenting on here, pretty standard bathroom break between sets for a GF's. Think Light was more letting the idea of being iced get to his head and thats what made him lose his fire (besides Proto's great gameplay obv)

[@rougershappy7613]

He shouldn't go downstairs talking if he really wanted to stay concentrated.

[@sohn7767]

Knowing like getting iced did hurt is performance, but he has no right to complain lol

[@Sioniz]

Unless you have a health/bathroom emergency, You shouldn't take more than a 2 Minute break. It will kill your momentum.

[@user-fv7fy6wy8g]

@@Sioniz Who decided on that 2 minutes?

[@johnstacy9549]

@@Sioniz this makes sense for in the middle of a set but remember it was IN BETWEEN SETS he has all the right to take his time remember it’s an entirely diff set

[@fupalover]

13 Melee summits and 5 Ultimate summits and this is the first one where the winner did not get a crowd. That's bullshit. I know NA is bias but not showing respect/support is classless. Proto i apologize on behalf of NA. Damn shame.

[@Intothemind]

Well given how all the casters were memeing about Proto "icing" during GF (as if he's the only one to take breaks...) and Light almost saying he lost because of that, not surprising to see Proto's win coldly (hehe) received. And yeah, wherever you go there always will be bias in favor of local players, but I find it kinda cringe.

[@user-ci5up9dw2q]

アジア人軽視はどこにでもあるので仕方ないとは思いつつちょっと悲しいし失望しましたね

[@user-gu3hu3ls6l]

@@Intothemind プロトバナムはもともと尿路結石症でした。それは治りましたが、後遺症でより多くの水が必要となり、それに伴いトイレに行く回数も増えます。この事実を知ってほしい。

[@user-gx1ul9ob8y]

外国人の、冗談って言えばなんでも言っていいと思ってるの風潮が嫌い

[@aaaae7586]

tbf the reason why melee didn’t get a crowd is because there was a covid outbreak there

[@ant4613]

First set ended at 11:45. Second set started at 17:28. That's like a 5 minute break in between sets and Light/some people are really crying about it? I've seen tournaments where the bracket is reset and the players or a player take a second to get coached or regroup. I've seen tournaments where they jump right into the next set. Neither should be considered an issue. The notion that the break in-between sets somehow caused Light to lose is ridiculous.

[@tutorialsimulator]

while I agree that breaks are a part of the game, if u compare 5 mins to other smash tourney resets, it's a pretty long time. it's unfair to compare smash to other tournaments in an argument.

[@Marco-er4ql]

If a 5 minute break makes you lose you deserve it lol

[@clammeny]

yup, if Light can't deal with a 5 minute break without getting thrown off he doesn't deserve to win. plus his reaction to it was incredibly unsportsmanlike, honestly just disappointed in him

[@sikeyno.8797]

Tbh I can see both sides but I also don’t understand lights toxicity, proto has a strat for stalling if he feels like his opponent has momentum he has done this a few times before and imo i think it’s a good strat, light being a player who is borderline unbeatable if he has momentum I can see why light is mad but I feel like his toxicity is uncalled because what proto did was smart

[@jasonanno3881]

@@sikeyno.8797 This is the only opinion. They are competing. And for a significant amount of money relatively speaking. If you think something is going to help you win and it's within the rules, you should do it... for the most part. But yeah, if a 5 minute pause totally breaks you then you need to work on that. If you think players shouldn't be allowed to take 5 minute breaks then don't compete, no one is forcing you.

[@diegocorral8787]

Its only right 2nd and 3rd at the last Summit are in Grands. This is the best Ultimate tournament to date. So many heart wrenching sets in Losers Side, upsets and perfect commentary throughout the day. Huge congrats to Proto winning it with the prettiest Lucina gameplay I've ever seen. He was so dominant and I am so Proud of him proving over Light, Kola, Riddles and beating Sparg0 to a point it reignited his passion for the game once again. Light played phenomenal beating Tweek at peak gameplay, Acola in a nerve wracking Game 5 set and his dominance over Glutonny and Kola. I am so ready for the future of Ultimate. No matter the Steve, MinMin, Kazuya or Aegis complaints I think the meta will be fine for years.

[@DeRez19]

I 100% agree with everything you've said, especially the last paragraph. I'm tired of the "Steve and Kazuya will destroy Smash" garbage. Kazuya has yet to win any majors and Steve is getting figured out the more he's seen in majors. Min Min isn't even the main reason Protobanham won... it was Lucina bringing it home. I STILL hate Aegis, though, and I will NEVER find their matches hype (even when they lose). They are soooooo boring and yet so many people play them.

[@camfratus8636]

Agreed!!

[@sroth2021]

Perfect commentary? The commentary is insufferable.

[@rmlgaming2091]

@@sroth2021 best in the business. Just mutechamp

[@diegocorral8787]

@@sroth2021 Who in particular are you talking about? Blastzone was amazing and I loved Vikki and HazMatt making the commentary entertaining. Idk who else could've been better suited as a replacement either.

[@YohanKite]

Why was void the only respectable smasher here? Nobody coming to congratulate proto, as if traveling all that way without knowing English and with the health condition he has is nothing at all just because he’s done it before. Japan somehow deserves more respect that NA gives it because we can’t stop complaining about every little thing.

[@TimmoTorus]

What an insane tourney. Never seen so many clutch game 5s in a single event. Top play from everyone, ggs and congrats 👏

[@user-vp9yo6ks1n]

誰も止められないLightフォックスにルキナで打ち勝ったの感動しました

[@MDtfh]

敗者側で無双してノリノリ＆腕捲ったLightに勝つのは今日のバナムさんしかいなかっただろうね。おめでとうバナムさん

[@user-ge7xw8sd5q]

Just so everyone knows, Proto has a ureteral stone and his doctor told him that if he needs to go to the bathroom, he has to go.

[@wheresmyshield176]

Sounds like a John to run away. First set was ten minutes, proto can go to the bathroom before that set and wait 20 minutes. If it was that serious proto shouldn't be drinking a red bull, unless you're his doctor and you know how ureteral stones work.

[@boksunni1211]

@@wheresmyshield176 you need good hydration as being dehydrated is a risk factor for kidney stone formation. And if you have to drink alot of fluids, then you know what has to follow 🤷‍♂️

[@zakattk001]

@@wheresmyshield176 sounds like you need to cope. Light stay putting the L in the Light 😂

[@v000000000000v]

@@wheresmyshield176 sounds like you don't know what kidney stones are

[@ElChicoBush]

Someone else finds weird that no one of the other players went to celebrate Proto's victory? I mean, usually at Summit when someone wins everyone is there to clap and those things while they give the trophy. The ending was kinda lame :/

[@CastafioreOnYoutube]

Difference of familiarity probably. The previous winners (Leo, Tweek, and Spargo) are all people who mostly regularly attend U.S. majors and supermajors, so they hang out alot or interact alot during tournaments. Obviously they're more comfortable celebrating and congratulating more closely with someone they know. Proto on the other hand, like many Japanese players, usually don't show up for any U.S. events that aren't a supermajor. Shuton is more active internationally than him. And also unlike with Europe and Mexico, out-of-region top players rarely attend Japanese majors and supermajors.

[@fireatack]

I think us Japanese all know that but still are salty for the lack of hospitality. Proto traveled like 12hrs flight to participate and the ending felt like nobody wanted him to even come. Felt a bit sad honestly.

[@ElChicoBush]

@@CastafioreOnKZbin Nah, I think at least they should be present for this. Even if they aren't close friend or something. Just for mere respect. I don't even blame the players themselves, but the event organizers.

[@vivalosgameplays5383]

Actually so sad, I think it has something to do with Light being hype the entire tourney and getting stopped, and also the fact that this is Light's second consecutive 1st place denial and thus U.S.'s player win at SUMMIT. But come on Proto is absurdly skilled, I also hated it when he defeated Leo (time when he used ROB), but now? he showed me and all if us that he is the definition of cracked and deserves to be admired, mf travels hours just to play.

[@343Films]

@@iphoneiphone4466 Holy hell dude, go fuck yourself with that bullshit. No country has an esports (or even regular sports) scene *even nearly* as diverse as the US. Take your pathetic ass white guilt somewhere else.

[@NineDarkTales]

The evolution of proto has been amazing to see. Last summit he beat leo and lost bad to light. Today, summit again, light again, however a whole different story, beating light not once but twice. Props to proto, he deserves this win.

[@user-bs8xp6yz5h]

プロトは海外での成績がとても素晴らしいです！！Let's Go Proto！！

[@user-ez8yn5kv6r]

バナムさん、前回のmkleoもそうだし、他の海外最上位プレイヤーほとんど倒しての優勝は凄すぎる😳

[@ColonelKiwi1120]

The break between grands and true grands, two actual different sets was 11:50 - 17:30 or 5 minutes 40 seconds from in game to in game. Light is a salty ass man child, that’s absolutely not icing. Buddy also went to Twitter to complain last time he lost to a Japanese player at an invitational. Just take the L holy moly

[@Intothemind]

You can also totally see that Proto is rushing when he comes down the stairs and leaves, and when he comes back... not like he was trying to stall or anything. Dude just needed to go the bathroom for barely 3 minutes (not counting the time to reach them), also this is allowed. So yeah, JOHNS.

[@user-cp7dc9mu5d]

He has ureteral stones. Therefore, it is necessary to drink a lot of water, and as a result, it is required to take restroom breaks.

[@-JamieJay]

Light has a bad attitude, literally why I actively root against him. Also earlier he told a nice commentator to “let him speak” in a rude way, just a jerk.

[@Hydun]

Yeah agreed also Proto has had health issues with not drinking enough before so now he drinks a lot light is kinda just a child that's a problem I have with a few na players that I don't see as much with other nations' players

[@watermel]

Frfr

[@kennyg2610]

Congrats to Proto!! This was such a great Summit, best one so far imo. Everyone was playing insane and Proto and Light were both playing out of their mind! Great great stuff to all players but especially Proto and Light 👏🏼 👏🏼

[@danielvining4947]

I’ve always gotten the impression Light is a sore loser, but this really takes the cake. Feel bad for Proto. He for sure deserved the W

[@tanmin8268]

Yes always blaming the pause and giving him weird looks. Light does respect other players though like Acola. I think Light is just super bitter about evo 2019 when Proto thrashed him so badly in loser quarters

[@diegocorral8787]

@@tanmin8268 I remember that match, Proto just 0-death him in 10 seconds at the start and the rest is history. I like Light, but C'mon Proto outplayed you and took advantage to reset his mental to come back in prime shape on the reset.

[@ColonelKiwi1120]

@@tanmin8268 light respecting acola enough to salt tweet the ban Steve shit after losing to him last time lmao. Light 👏is 👏not👏respectful

[@pops9087]

agree so hard. lights been an immature man child since i can remember always root againts him.

[@wheresmyshield176]

@@tanmin8268 light 3 - 0 proto in grand finals exactly like he did last summit. Proto pulled the proto and nobody has to like that, get over it. Nobody congratulated him, no crowd, why? Because they don't have to like someone who runs away from games.

[@Sagolel4797]

This was incredibly fun to watch. Thank you for cutting it together on youtube so we don't miss any of the conversation between sets. I don't have the time and timezone to watch these events in one go on a weekend but love just watching one or two sets a day over the course of a week. GG to all the players, casters and staff. Imo the best smash tournament to watch so far.

[@Elijah-fc3ex]

This was probably the best put together and exciting event I've seen for smash in recent memory. So many good games and great production quality

[@Saechao629]

Wow Proto is so amazing! I couldn’t help but root for him.

[@totalrandomness7200]

Proto is so good at this game, it must be so hard to be an expert at two totally different characters and playstyles and be able to instantly swap between them at any moment in a set. Mad respect.

[@fupalover]

Commentary bias is also annoying. They definitely shifted energy during that 2nd set 🥱

[@user-ci9oj2zr2x]

The Iceman tossing by the commentators was unbearable to watch. In addition, the reaction to Banham's win was cold and disappointing. The other competitors came to congratulate the previous winner.... The lack of respect for him is too much. It is sad because the matches themselves were all great.

[@georgesbouchet7430]

Eh, let them be salty about their " protagonist " losing. Their reaction won't prevent Banham to sleep soundly after such a huge win 😉

[@Bob.ross22]

I felt like they were rooting for proto actually, giving him props even when he was losing badly in the first set. Same as when he reversed kola

[@hectorhernandez7472]

Was proto sick or allergies? Maybe that’s why everyone opted to keep distance. This set he was blowing his nose like crazy. The break was only 5 minutes and should be standard to have one per set in my opinion. Light could’ve been hand warming during protos breaks unless they made him leave the room too. Making breaks standard would make the momentum based players have to adapt. Ultimate needs to treat the foreign players the way melee treats Amsa.

[@Substantial-hf1rm]

These commentators always do this kind of banter, I really don't think it's that deep homie, however@@splaturials9156 really needs to stop sucking light's dong and go outside.

[@georgesbouchet7430]

@@splaturials9156 Bullshit 🤷‍♂️ Light simply got outplayed by the best Lucina. Stop it with the Johns, you're making Light look even worse than he is

[@user-wu8sm2rq7m]

世界一のずらしが光るいい試合でしたね

[@toko8san]

lightだけに？

[@rougershappy7613]

Riddles戦とかは実際にこれの事かってなるシーンが多かった。ずらし始めるのがベク変並に早い段階

[@user-qp2gz4mx2x]

Protobanhamの手が移る度に震えているのをみて心を打たれた

[@user-nq6fz9de6f]

武者震い

[@ジェニーじゃん]

ゲームのやりすぎで手震えるようになった人結構居るよ

[@MitchBison]

ProtoBanham the NA slayer wins another major! And this time it's the Lucina that closes it out. This man is a mastermind with his duo of Lucina and Min Min. Congrats to Proto on the big win, where the level of competition was insanely high.

[@acekun6493]

People need to chill with the Proto hate, having like 30-60 second breaks between games and a 5 minute bath break between sets is completely fine

[@wilsonfisher5011]

Is anyone going to talk about how in smash ultimate we essentially got a fox vs. Marth grands? Like obviously it’s an echo of marth but still, crazy stuff.

[@camfratus8636]

True!

[@ohcomeon1111]

That ain't even close to marth though and he also plays min min a lot in this tournament

[@Michael-cg5qn]

@@ohcomeon1111 he’s talking about grands not the whole thing

[@ohcomeon1111]

@@Michael-cg5qn still played min min

[@Daniel-ut6lc]

@@ohcomeon1111 you seem fun at parties

[@korekore6325]

本当に面白い、最高の試合だった。 ただ、なぜセット間で皆が寒がっているのか本当にわからなかった。lightさんのtweetからICEMANと呼ばれているのを見てようやく、休憩時間が長いことが原因だと理解できた。 確かにセット間でトイレ休憩している事は珍しい気がするけどjokeだっだとしても今回のことはただただ悲しい😢 banhamさん、どこか悪いのかなとは思っていたけどこんな形で調べて知ることになったのは残念。この事実を確認する為に何度も動画を見返したことも悲しい。 最後におそらくvoid？と抱き合っていたのが印象的だった。 この後、何か進展があったなら誰か教えてほしい。次回からは純粋に試合を楽しめる状況になってほしい。

[@thomasmallon9457]

アメリカの選手はそういうクセがある。負ける時に何かを言うとか、相手がこれをしたので私のプレイがダメになったとか。いい習慣じゃないけどbanhamさんに別に失礼ことをするすつもりはないと思う。

[@DrWavy-fq2qk]

17k… Undoubtedly one of, if not the BEST tournament i and probably we have been blessed with witnessing. But in spite of all the amazing nail biting game 5’s, storyline defining wins and losses, and even down to the amazing commentary… there’s only a prize pool of 17k…. If I had the power to switch the prize pool from summit 3 with this one, I would in a heartbeat😔

[@diegocorral8787]

I agree, I didn't realize how low prize pool was compared to the last two. I understand the pro's of letting popularity prevail over rich peeps supporting players, though I dislike they did the vote ins all in one day. Should've tried multiple days. Still, I think they should bring back the old vote in process as its better for Summit altogether.

[@powergo7486]

That's what happens when you limit the amount of buyins for voting lol

[@adamcruz3012]

@@powergo7486 What are buy ins?

[@sonov6305]

Summit 4 was the biggest wasn’t it?

[@Tzuyu4ever]

VoiD and Nakat are the only ones who congratulated Proto...

[@jjbathemeextensions8866]

Damn that sucks

[@Ojo_ssbu001]

Hey, please. seriously. The conversation between sets was the worst. Great game and great players. worst joke. I know there are cultural differences. But they knew from the beginning that those people would see it.

[@bounce9568]

Tbh I’ve always rooted against proto, just cuz I really liked the opposing players and knew them better. But proto is just so good at the game, has such a good attitude, it’s impossible not to start to root for him. Light’s obnoxious comments also kinda annoyed me. I’m not sure how I feel about the whole “iceman” thing yet, I think sometimes it can be a fun little jab like chokemos, but ehhh not sure how to feel about it here. A bit disappointing that such a great set was punctuated by salt from light and a hollow reception for Proto. Mad props to proto, I’m officially a fan now, deserved the win, Light played fantastic and put up a great fight. My favorite sentiment I’ve seen about this tournament is that pretty much every set could have been a grand finals match of another tournament, the skill level present was just unreal, and nearly anyone could have taken the whole thing.

[@shun8104]

Proto's results at invitationals: EPI2 1st Shin-Ken League 1st (FT5 format) Ultimate Summit 4 3rd Ultimate Summit 5 1st Obviously he's an insane player but his preparation is fenomenal. So happy he won this Summit, even winning the runback on Kola and Light. WIth all the chaos that happened this tournament is definitely one of my favorite Ult tournament ever, hats off to everyone involved.

[@user-ty2of2bf2o]

バナムはぱせりまんとめっちゃオフしてLight戦にすごく備えてたらしいからね。 この結果は2人にとっても嬉しいだろう。

[@K_lucina_pyra]

各キャラトップクラスの使い手が居るから日本勢全員で掴んだ勝利やね。

[@goldfire3636]

You can't get over the japanese humility guys, Proto will never says he's the best

[@ninjaoflight908]

This tournament was insane, and leaves me wondering who'll be on top. Everyone was hyping Leo vs acola, but not only did they never meet, they were eliminated by players who didn't even win. Of course, Leo has the greatest track record, but aside from his Steve issue, other pros seem to finally be reaching his level; this was his worst placement in 3 years. Kola and Light eliminated acola, but lost to Proto, who last lost to acola. And who knows what'll happen next? Maybe Leo will unleash the Joker. Maybe Sparg0 will shake off rust and reach a new level. Maybe Tweek will finally get his nerves in check. Maybe Proto, Light, Kola, acola, Glutonny, or someone else will dominate? Thanks for a great tournament, and ggs to all.

[@hecty8667]

I think this the lowest Leo’s been in his career. His first time losing top 8 since the tournament where he first played joker. Aegis did not work out for Leo at all

[@uhZetzrah]

good comment

[@sohn7767]

How did Leo get eliminated? I assume it was proto’s a d glutto’s combined effort

[@EmeraldPhaze]

@@sohn7767 Gluto and Tweek

[@sohn7767]

@@EmeraldPhaze guess half correctly at least

[@igotthemunchies7292]

Top-five ultimate tournaments loved almost every set. Wonder are there anymore stacked tournaments like this for the rest of the year?

[@fupalover]

Luds tournament

[@sharsasuke01]

@@fupalover Where is he keeping it?

[@fupalover]

@@sharsasuke01 he will stream it on his KZbin channel.

[@firewall5189]

@@fupalover and its looking like itll be even MORE stacked than this summit, which is actually kinda crazy to think about

[@sharsasuke01]

@@fupalover I know, but it will be offline right? Because his other tournaments were online.

[@crescendo5880]

おめでとうございます🎉🎊✨ Such a great player!!!!

[@woutervanham8246]

I was really rooting for Light because we share mains but the more I watched him complain and spread toxicity, the more I start to dislike him. Congrats Proto on the victory, he deserved it and that offstage shield break was so cool.

[@user-qh2hq5bz3y]

33:50 ここバナムさんが上手すぎて、ダッシュガード読み掴み通されたときのライトの表情好き

[@user-ko3nw7ve6r]

掴み長くね！？に見えたわ

[@user-ho9kw5it4e]

ice man弄りからの優勝マジで気持ち良すぎた グランドファイナルの覚醒ルキナ、最高にcoolでした！おめでとう！

[@tiranodont]

Bravo proto y ganado con estilo con Lucina. Se vio tan elegante su juego con Lucina.

[@Milraune]

バナムさん、優勝おめでとうございます！ （Deepl） Congratulations on your win, ProtoBanham!

[@warrenlwolfe]

Y'all couldnt come out to collectively congratulate this man on this (incredibly stacked) tournament win? That's not cool imo especially as it's been done for every other melee/ult winner in the past. Congrats Proto! Such a humble and talented player

[@inmybestdaysidontdocrack]

Everyone in this tournament did fucking great. Even the people who placed last, they all played great. Proto earned this spot, he worked hard for this. Not even just that, but it was good seeing how good Proto does in American. In Japan players kinda beat proto more consistently, but whenever proto comes to america he goes fucking insane. He looks so unstoppable sometimes.

[@choco3360]

類似イベントのGimvitationalでも日本人のあcolaさんの優勝直後に海外勢は祝福しに集まることは無くBanSteve活動に勤しんでて炎上してたし今更というか、こういうアメリカの身内色が濃いイベントで日本人の優勝があっちで望まれていないのは仕方の無いこと

[@Moon-uq6ob]

Spoilers: This makes the second time a Lucina player has won summit since Mkleo did it at Ultimate Summit 1. Congrats to Protobanham (THE ICE MAN) for being able to win with both Min Min and Lucina at a tournament that had upsets every 5 minutes. Even though he didn't face Leo or ACola again, he won against Sparg0 and Riddles for the first time, and beat his bracket demons Kola and Light. Definitely an impressive run no matter how you look at it.

[@rougershappy7613]

スマブラSP史上間違いなく一番レベルの高いトナメで、もっともシンプルなルキナというキャラで勝てるのは従来のスマブラが強いからで、スマブラSPらしく、他と全然違う戦い方をするミェンミェンというキャラで勝てたのは新しい時代のスマブラも強いからだと思います。 総じて完璧で最強だと思います！ おめでとうございます！

[@leinswaisbrick]

As always NA showing how respect and sportmanship is the last of their priorities, both by babyraging when they lose, and not showing respect for the opponent who won with balanced characters and by simply being better. Japan not only showing their skills at the game, but also showing how NA is belown in many other aspects. GGs king, totally deserved.

[@wheresmyshield176]

Respect and sportsmanship would've been sitting there and finishing your match. Not walking away from a professional appointment you made, make room in your schedule for 30 minutes, or don't show up. Nothing to do with 'balanced' characters, proto literally got 3 - 0 like he did last summit.

[@jk-unknown]

キャラネガしないでコツコツと対策積み上げた結果ですね。 バナさんおめでとう！！

[@palatonian9618]

Proto’s Lucina is a work of art. Having the min min as well is crazy

[@mrharvy100]

Not Light’s proudest moment and not talking about that he lost. Him already blaming Proto that if he lost it’s because of the bathroom break explains it all lol

[@nameredacted4934]

Things I got from this tournament: -Tweek and Leo have the best rivalry in eSports. -Proto has refined Zackray’s counterpick meta. -As of now there is no definitive #2 Gluto, Light and acola all are top 3, but it’s too close to tell. You could say Gluto, but his low placements in his region are questionable, or Light, but he still doesn’t have me sold on being a definitive #2 in the world. For acola the lack of more than 1 supermajor win. I’d say Light given the consistency, but that’s just my opinion. -American casters are incredibly biased (watch Tweek, and Light sets), but to be fair all commentators are. This year gives me 2019 vibes, but the top 10 is far more volatile, this tournament was a fantastic indication of that. What a time to be an Ultimate spectator.

[@chony93]

The commentators aren't biased towards a nation, just towards their friends. Tweek and Light are friends of the casters, they've been for a long time now.

[@tomb5511]

I see. Are you saying Leo isn’t #1 anymore?

[@nameredacted4934]

@@tomb5511 "_As of now there is no definitive #2_" He is, that's why I said that in the original post.

[@azukibeanzz]

As a French, we saw in an interview that he chose to do bad results in France to get better in foreign countries

[@TheVirginMeri]

A part of the bias comes from the fact these commentators barely watch the game, especially if its outside of the U.S. They end up rambling about American players because they only follow them. They didn't know common things like: -Gluto's tendonitis -Being shocked at Acola's Kazuya -They said they've never seen a Kazuya ditto in bracket, when Tea v. Riddles was hype af and alot of other things that you'd expect people paid to cast the game would know

[@rurounijay7100]

Ive been saying proto absolutely had a case for #1 in japan and i think this kind of proves it. The longevity test is there, hes been a crazy threat for a long time, and hes been showing how dangerous he is over here too.

[@user-uy4ot4ij3y]

In japan he hasnt placed #1 in a while so idk

[@manlittle4888]

I feel like japan is kind of region which is to win a major you have to be prepare for defeating protobanham, so everyone in japan rethinking and choosing their character to beat proto, and they just refining their way to beat protos lucina and min-min. so there are kind of different environment for proto in japan. On the other hand, like when proto competing in NA's majors, everyone have to prepare for strongest player in the world like leo, light, gluto, or tweek etc, so for proto environment is kind good for him cause people didn't ready for proto or not so much prepare for proto like japan's environment. so I feel like that's the one of the reasons why proto didn't win a majors in japan so frequently. but like you said that kind results tells us the facts, so let's see proto's continuous challenges in majors.

[@rurounijay7100]

@@manlittle4888 nobody else has had protos success. Acola underperformed arguably based off his hype. It also shows steve is beatable. Japan has a way more volatile environment, all players lose to names you might not recognize

[@manlittle4888]

@@rurounijay7100 exactly just focusing only person to win is kind easier, and volatile features make jp touney more complicated.

[@sumpumpkin9109]

oh wow, this summit is hard to beat. best ultimate tournament ever

[@smugaladdin8372]

Light isn't the protagonist of smash, he's just a cocky crybaby

[@hugohaase6074]

If you blame your win on a 3 minute break in which you decide NOT to keep your hands warm you deserve to lose

[@gonzo_o_o]

Both Melee and Ultimate are in such amazing spots where you really can't tell who's gonna win when all the top talent shows up to play. Really excited for all the events going down this fall after this Summit

[@SparklingHarmony]

This event was awesome, so many close game 5s. Congrats to Proto, he does so well when he travels overseas.

[@apolmedrano3914]

@@darrenjennedy3160 could've watched the stream smart boy

[@vulblhotdiessfi]

@@darrenjennedy3160 dumbass, we don't exist to accommodate your sorry ass. Don't check comments

[@Marco-er4ql]

@@darrenjennedy3160 it's your fault for reading the comments before watching the set

[@condolo3701]

Ye other then before u can even click full screen this mfs comment shows up

[@diegocorral8787]

@@darrenjennedy3160 Its fine if you couldn't watch stream, though you could've ignored this comment easily by watching this fullscreen and hovering your finger over the highlighted top comment.

[@jonathansmith3470]

Light: Taunts Proto IRL last Summit Proto: You’re gonna regret that next year😈

[@user-ox9tg7lb8y]

バナムさん前回のサミットでLightに負けて オフでぱせさんに会う度に対戦申し込んで フォックスの対策積んで今回のサミットで Lightにリベンジするのカッコよすぎるだろ

[@sz_2624]

海外勢「Lightが可哀想だった」

[@wt_neptune54]

可哀想に

[@deanoor9391]

Shout out to boi Proto for still keeping Min Min and Lucina ALIVE Everyone wrote them off as bad characters but Proto makes them look amazing

[@number090684]

Lucina was never considered "bad" in Ultimate, it's just as the power creep with the DLC characters began the character started lose their footing in the competitive meta.

[@xanander4693]

Neither character has been ever viewed as bad

[@Michael-cg5qn]

What are you talking about? This is just made up

[@2FadeMusic]

@@xanander4693 Fr lol

[@rayless]

No one ever wrote them off as bad except Dabuz saying Minmin was dead after nerfs for 2 weeks

[@BOBSUSHI32]

im surprised they were surprised about proto winning it. i had leo, acola or proto winning the whole thing. but light and kola surprised me though, i didn't think they would beat steve!

[@blastequation8199]

El mejor torneo hasta la fecha en la historia de smash me tuvo con el corazon a 100% y pegado a mi asiento

[@albertshen1904]

Among all top smash players, I think Protobanham and Light might have the fastest reaction time and the craziest mashing out /SDIing.

[@DirtySloth69]

I think so too. Funnily enough, I said to Proto with his reaction time he should have been playing sports during high school. He mentioned he believes his reaction time is average and didn't think it fast. He also said he didn't play sports I believe but I forgot what club he was in.

[@stayontrack]

wizzrobe

[@firewall5189]

@@stayontrack proto and light are in a tier of their own honestly, but even with that taken into account, i think wizzrobe's reactions are fucking bonkers even by their incredibly high standards.

[@panacea.palace]

Had no idea Proto was such a contender, amazing to see him come back after a 3-0

[@Turnpost2552]

He is not, Light got tired of his meddling playstyle.

[@panacea.palace]

@@Turnpost2552 Dude, the guy that got first place in the most stacked tournament of the year isn't a contender? That's just stupid

[@EmissaryOfSmeagol]

The actual set, behind where the players are, looks very cozy!

[@user-ee2mv7fc1i]

It's unbearable to see light's sourness on Twitter😅 I've never seen him compliment another player.

[@ggc4183]

idk where he got that mentality from, makes me respect him so much less.

[@uchihaclan77]

What he say on Twitter?

[@aquatazer]

The more I watch tournaments, the more I dislike him. He’s the definition of a phony, he acts respectful to your face but then talks trash behind your back.

[@uchihaclan77]

@@CastafioreOnKZbin wow. That’s true, cause when Proto beat Leo, Leo took the L like a man and kept it pushing lol but I mean light is cocky we all do know that. His pride just got hurt

[@CastafioreOnYoutube]

@@aquatazer Kinda ironic that he was in a skit where he tells あcola to fuck off because he plays Steve, and then stops because God told him to stop being salty, because even though God could make Steve worse, he asked if Light wanted to "win" or be a champion.

[@kylewood554]

Congrats Proto! I was rooting for Light but he was a total loser about his loss, maybe make less excuses and more adaptations.

[@shrimppasta4345]

Time to put some respect on this man name. This dude shows out more than anybody at the most stacked tourneys, easily top 3

[@user-lq2es5jv2o]

lightと実況者は最悪だった。優勝した後も誰も祝いに来なくてものすごく不快だった。

[@VarsVerum]

The scary thing about Ultimate Summit 5 is that Leo and Sparg0 didn’t even play badly. Everyone’s just so neck and neck that it’s almost impossible to figure out who is top 5 anymore let alone number 1. I have a feeling we’re gonna be entering our own era of the five gods soon. Only this time it’s gonna be like 10 people who can all beat each other.

[@youtubedrama5468]

Not True At All Leo is literally having character crisis on Twitter saying that He's stupid for thinking Aegis was his Best Character Sparg0 came from a long break and He has said it himself that He's not washed up but He's also not playing at his Best

[@youtubedrama5468]

Also, I don't really like This Melee 5 Gods or something like that Ultimate is a very balanced game with a lot of MUs Why can't we enjoy the game the way as it is, Almost Every Top Player getting upsets instead of finding 5 or 10 Gods thats gonna keep on appearing in every Top 8

[@bigf0ot25]

@@youtubedrama5468 having Gods isnt a bad thing. Melee has had gods for more than a decade and its accomplished crops of generations gunning to be god killers, many of which routinely do. Zain, Cody, Plup, Jmook and more have all taken sets from Mang0 as well as Hbox (the last of the remaining original gods) and melees meta is constantly evolving because of it. Having a top tier league of players gives everyone something to prove and work toward, rather than everyone just feeling deflated by spargo and mkleo taking every tourney

[@andyquintuna6708]

But weren't they gods specifically bc only each of em could take each other out? Cause they definitely do lose to others outside of top 20. Not to discredit then ofc just saying

[@diwataa]

if I was proto, I wouldn’t come back to the summit. just feels so disrespected. and u can’t blame the 5 minute break, learn to adapt. be the better player 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@BryGuyJohn]

If Proto could adapt he wouldn't need to hide in the bathroom after getting bodied lol

[@sentoworf]

I hope he comes back and makes Light cry again lol

[@diwataa]

@@BryGuyJohn bro what 😂 he did adapt bc he won LOL light just couldn’t be the better player and finish 😂

[@danielmurillo5223]

🤣

[@kuji4828]

lightさん寒いなら長袖着るといいですよ

[@user-ry9bl1lu8q]

これはおもしろいww

[@_delolala]

Why was no one there to congratulate him? :/ that makes me sad usually it’s a whole crowd

[@2FadeMusic]

I totally agree! It was strange and felt disrespectful. Took away from the vibe