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Stefan Sobkowiak - The Permaculture Orchard

Stefan Sobkowiak - The Permaculture Orchard

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@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 2 жыл бұрын
Boss, we really could've used this video earlier in the month. I already done butchered all my trees!
@dwarftoad
@dwarftoad 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, more branches will grow!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Trees are forgiving and there’s always next year, just focus on branch angle and forget about messing with the ends of the branches.
@kinss1
@kinss1 Жыл бұрын
It’s ok .. the best pruners have learned by experience
@mya2541
@mya2541 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 us too
@1533willo
@1533willo 7 ай бұрын
What if all my branches have suckers?
@wrongwayconway
@wrongwayconway 2 жыл бұрын
When I bought my apple tree I set up bamboo stakes and rods and wire to train the branches to "droop" gently downwards. My whole reason for doing so: I'm short. I didn't want to have to use a ladder to harvest my applea. LOL.
@parkerbarnes7726
@parkerbarnes7726 2 жыл бұрын
So often the problems we attack are merely symptoms of greater issues; this is a good reminder to focus on the root cause, not just the symptoms!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@jwrightgardening
@jwrightgardening 2 жыл бұрын
I was worried about our young trees with their branches growing downward because of the heavy fruit on them pulling them down but now I know that's a good thing! Yay!
@WingardMT
@WingardMT 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for this video. Been overwhelmed on how to clean up ours after a robust harvest last Fall, this instruction got me focused and certainly will be saving me time & blades. Thanks Stefan!
@davidmuxlow540
@davidmuxlow540 2 жыл бұрын
Have recently bought two parcels of land covered with large old apple trees that are out of control. Been watching videos for a few weeks and have just started with cutting off the dead branches because I wasn’t quite sure yet that I knew what to do. After watching this video I believe I have found my apple tree caretaking mentor! Looks to me that this info will help with correcting these large old trees.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the first video of the pruning course (pruningcourse.com) it emphasizes branch angle and the simplest 3 step approach.
@ravenwolf7128
@ravenwolf7128 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Pruning our apple trees has been such a pain, just a mess of overgrown suckers. The trees are old, they were here when we bought the house. I will try and top work some, and the new ones I plant I will be following your advice. Makes so much sense--lower angle, less vigor, no suckers. I am so relieved that there is a way to avoid the yearly battle with branches--bless you!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. it doesn’t mean the branches are less vigorous it just means they are not wasting their energy on suckers but putting that energy into producing fruit.
@ravenwolf7128
@ravenwolf7128 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak yes, fruit instead of 100 suckers to trim---can't wait to train our trees with this method.
@lostpony4885
@lostpony4885 2 жыл бұрын
My trees are only a year or two old so far so i still love suckers
@josephtpg2205
@josephtpg2205 2 жыл бұрын
On an out of control apple tree, thin biggest branches going up. Leave most of branches going out. An out of control tree should look somewhat out of control when your done
@chiaridude9098
@chiaridude9098 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefan! I don’t have any apple trees just yet but I’ll remember this lesson if I meet a sucker.
@marvinbaier3627
@marvinbaier3627 2 жыл бұрын
I took a pruning course along with grafting course too. It was awesome. They gave me all kinds of pointers. Thanks again for all your videos!
@bountywoodsfarm8594
@bountywoodsfarm8594 2 жыл бұрын
I took Stefan's complete pruning course and I highly recommend it! He has more excellent tips, all made clear and simple like this video. It's a good buy! Better than all the pruning books I've seen.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testimonial.
@bountywoodsfarm8594
@bountywoodsfarm8594 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak I will gladly take time to endorse your material because I believe many people can benefit from it. Also, I want you to keep doing more so I want to buy some of your stuff to help support all the free content you put out! (And to help pay for the tour of your farm a few years ago!)
@cherriethomas9538
@cherriethomas9538 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had an extra 189 to take the course so I just watch what he has free if charge. I am truly grateful for the information.
@lorchid23
@lorchid23 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely believe you. However, if seems counterintuitive because it looks as if branches below horizontal would be much more susceptible to breaking in high winds or snow load.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like it but we had a massive ice storm 6” of ice on branches, most of the branches that made it through the storm were below horizontal. Makes sense when you think of how much or little they bend in storms.
@Boomer_in_the_Trees
@Boomer_in_the_Trees 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. A minor passing note, those growing off the branches are usually referred to as watersprouts. Suckers grow off the trunk.
@yippikiyay197
@yippikiyay197 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they called that?
@Boomer_in_the_Trees
@Boomer_in_the_Trees 2 жыл бұрын
@@yippikiyay197 Because they are mostly full of water. They grow fast, usually when a tree either suffers damage to a branch or the branch cannot reach ample sunlight where its positioned and they grow upright on the branch to try to gain more leaf surface space. Because of this they tend to be weaker than the branches they grow on and weigh down the branches which can cause further damage to the branch.
@Rebecca-1111
@Rebecca-1111 Жыл бұрын
​@@Boomer_in_the_Trees can you cut the water sprouts? Or make another tree from it like the sucker branch? Thanks
@johncopeland2324
@johncopeland2324 Жыл бұрын
Going to check out your course. Have been working with trees for 20 years. Think I may have been a little wrong in my approach. Thanks
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
We’re all a little wrong, the question is how wrong.
@poisonduckee
@poisonduckee Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. My dad has 10 apple trees that haven't been pruned for at least 15 years and I looked this up to know where to start. Now I know where to start and finish... BRANCH ANGLE!!
@msheart2
@msheart2 2 жыл бұрын
“ Frustrated by Pruning? Don't know where to Start? Overwhelmed? ” Yes, yes and yes... my trees are too tall, and the one which we worked on last year didn't produced any apples albeit it had flowers but we also had a cold snap after flowering, we didn’t do it right, clearly a fail. I must look at the rest of your videos on pruning. Thanks for sharing.
@saltriverorchards4190
@saltriverorchards4190 2 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting approach to pruning. If I did that however I would have nothing left but the trunk. Deer have trained my trees to grow straight up. All of the limbs come out shooting straight for the sky and if even a single one goes even at a 45° angle it is either eaten off or broken off. Last summer I installed a 3-D electric fence so hopefully now I can finally start proper training but I think I’m going to have to make severe cuts in order to promote new limb growth and hope that I can train the new limbs to a less steep angle.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, start with removing the most vertical branches and in three years your trees will be completely transformed to below horizontal and be highly productive and low maintenance.
@vickisavage8929
@vickisavage8929 2 жыл бұрын
For what it’s worth, Perma Pastures Farm sells a bone sauce, based on Sepp Holzer’s recipe, that is phenomenal for repelling not only deer, but just about any plant predators. Not trying to shill, and don’t get any kickback, just trying to share good information.
@audreybarnes6527
@audreybarnes6527 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Every night I put my birds away. I reach up into the tree and take them from the branches. As you appreciate, chickens can control the blood vessels in their feet but the branches are always warm. If we hadn't emptied the skies here in the UK, we'd understand the relationships trees have with birds.
@Tsuchimursu
@Tsuchimursu 2 жыл бұрын
Simple, short, understandable... I think this will be a very useful tidbit. Thank you :)
@ritajames7797
@ritajames7797 Жыл бұрын
I am new to growing fruit trees and have bought my first bare root apple trees which are now planted, this year. Thanks for those tips. Very helpful information. Thank you Stefan. 🙂
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! A new start.
@Stilgar74
@Stilgar74 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan what you seem to be describing here is a known auxin dominance hormonally within the tree... those branch angles and the propensity for branches to grow upright instead of horizontally is as I understand it a vegetative dominance and potentially a nitrate imbalance... tying branches to re-angle them is a manual process that can shift the hormonal balance to be more reproductive dominant, but this can also be done nutritionally. Anyway... great video. Mourning the loss of a great holistic orchardist today...Michael Phillips who suddenly passed. Thanks for all you do.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes a sad day. I didn’t want to discuss auxins to keep this video simpler, you’re right. I never heard of the nitrate imbalance and branch angle.
@becky4321
@becky4321 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Michael Phillips passed this spring! Very sad. I love his book Holistic Orchard. Ugh. 😔
@josephtpg2205
@josephtpg2205 2 жыл бұрын
Water sprouts can be trained into pseudo spurs along a good branch with apples. More fruit less space.
@donnavorce8856
@donnavorce8856 Жыл бұрын
I'll look at my two big apple trees in the morning with your information in mind. Thanks for the technique update. I needed some inspiration to get in and clean these threes up and get them in shape. Cheers
@_Hannah_..
@_Hannah_.. 7 ай бұрын
thank you ~~ you Are AmaZinG !!!!! ❕❕❕❕💠 I really needed to hear this !!! 🌿🌿🌿🌱 🎼 🍏
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 7 ай бұрын
You are so welcome
@patrapper7367
@patrapper7367 2 жыл бұрын
Is this only for Apple trees? Or shoukd I be consistent with my pear, peaches, cherries, nut trees, elderberry, etc? God bless you. You have a great gift from God to bless and love others. Your my favorite youtuber and I pray for you and your family often.
@nancrist7022
@nancrist7022 2 жыл бұрын
If you look back a bit he says pears are the exception 🍐🍐🍐🍐
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, blessings received. Yes it works for all fruit and nuts except pears (keep pear branches to horizontal no lower).
@r.c.christian1198
@r.c.christian1198 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of Permaculture and perm adjacent content - You are top notch, thank you!
@gardenofseeden
@gardenofseeden 2 жыл бұрын
I have a bad tendency to lose focus when most people speak, but when you speak I know I am not getting fluff but just all practical meaningful facts. Thank you for your continued amazing content.
@owemylife
@owemylife 9 ай бұрын
Suckers have a lot to do with how heavily you prune your tree. They grow from latent nodes that become activated when the tree has too many leaf producing branches removed. Leaves create photosynthate, which it stores for growth and repair processes. When it loses its capacity to create enough photosynthate, it will use stored energy to push the growth of new leaves in order to meet its future energy needs. This is the mechanism by which latent nodes become activated to produce suckers and leaves. We want to start pruning the tops op apple trees early and avoid large woody cuts to maturing trees. Dont over thin. Fruit sets on twiggy interior woody growth. You can cut back that twiggy grown every year without removing it. Suckers can also indicate other stresses, but heavy pruning is the primary cause. Orchards prune heavily for a number of resons, but i you want lovely trees that live longer, do not remove the crown of your tree. Get your shape and prune it down to that same area annually. Not to discount anything this gentleman says.
@GypsyBrokenwings
@GypsyBrokenwings 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, you amazed me with this one!
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 7 ай бұрын
Most of my tree's branches pointed straight up, if I had pruned them, the tree would have been almost gone. Now they're drooping, so I think the upward pointing branches will soon become useful.
@angelahope5974
@angelahope5974 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I have a young true only 5 years old and it is starting to get out of control so this is helpful.
@jackiekjono
@jackiekjono 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is really helpful. Also thank you so much for reminding me I have to do this.
@oldmanfigs
@oldmanfigs 9 ай бұрын
Sir! This observation you pointed out is insightful….thankful to ya!
@jomotioncreative
@jomotioncreative 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Do you have any similar tips for apricot trees? I see I have a lot of suckers on mine this year.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Train the branches down if you can. Try to avoid pruning apricot, they can grow like crazy.
@jomotioncreative
@jomotioncreative 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak Ok - it looks like i have a hundred suckers going straight up this year...
@B30pt87
@B30pt87 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Yes, that Was helpful.
@trentnicolajsen3731
@trentnicolajsen3731 2 жыл бұрын
I prune about 10 thousand, 10 foot 30 years or older mazzard root stock cherry trees per year, the main issue I find in most cherry orchards is that once the trees are allowed to grow over 10 feet, and do not get punned sufficiently or a year or 2 is skipped, is that the top canopy will over shade the lower trunk, and then lower branch growth is lost, so the tree becomes more like a tall evergreen in a forest, with nice straight grain, yet sadly 80 percent of the crop is 8 feet or higher in the air. new farmers where thinking that keeping a lot of fruit up high would then not get frost damage, but then when hot summers arrive most of the fruit on top is sun damaged. so I prune the trees back in to a 10 foot spade cone shape, too maximize photo transpiration, photosynthesis and a thermal dynamic of heat and cooling. one mistake is that new workers will not want to get on a ladder or on a hydraulic cherry picker and just snip away too many lower fine branches that I need to rebuild the lower fruiting branches. as in my reality I am no longer using just a one or 2 step method, like in smaller root stocks, I am using more like a 4 to 5 step method, this way its not like a 50 year old is past production in life, yet such deep roots and long horizontal roots bringing up such deep nutrients is just staring to produce better fruit. as too much food is produced in the world with short root hybrid grain, or very small short lived root stocks. at about 30 years the fruit tree pruning mulched and or burned is becoming more like a soft forest floor that helps water retention. where sadly today most orchards are just planted for short term production of less then 12 years.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your observation. Taller longer lasting roots give better fruit. Makes sense since they access farther and deeper root zones. The move towards smaller rootstock is practical and economical for management but requires a more rigorous fertilisation especially with minerals which is what gives flavour.
@stephanemorvant341
@stephanemorvant341 2 жыл бұрын
Merci Stefan, il faut vraiment que je travaille mon anglais. Je m'inspire de tes techniques, je suis encore dans l'idée de laisser sa forme naturelle à l'arbre même si je sais pertinemment que l'angle de la branche et le géotropisme permettent une mise à fruit plus rapide. Ici on greffe les fruits à noyaux en ce moment. Bonne journée.
@Warrior-In-the-Garden
@Warrior-In-the-Garden Жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure this out. SO HELPFUL!!!!!
@shelleynobleart
@shelleynobleart 2 жыл бұрын
So, the suckers come out to try and get to the top? For more sun? Do you explain why below horizontal branches won't sucker in your course??
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes i do, but it’s all in the hormones, auxins direct branch growth, either for new tops or fruiting branches.
@alvintaylor1440
@alvintaylor1440 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that makes me encouraged to trim my trees, best video I've seen yet!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@christineortmann359
@christineortmann359 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Amazing information!! Looking forward to pruning again 😁❤️
@carinep.4520
@carinep.4520 8 ай бұрын
Awesome information Stefan. Looking at your apples, doesn’t look like there are bugs in them. I am so discouraged with my apples and pears full of little worms in them…I wish I could just bite right in the apple without having to cut it piece by piece and remove the bad parts. I want to stay without pesticide. I pick up all the fallen apple and throw the really bad ones away in the garbage so there aren’t many larvas in the soil for the spring, put some ash around the trees to try and kill the ones that made it there….What do you do? Thanks for teaching us how to do better.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 8 ай бұрын
I trap for the insects that go into the fruit (codling moth and apple maggot fly). I have videos on each trap and how to setup (under insects playlist).
@julieclark1331
@julieclark1331 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you😊 pruning apple trees has been a confusing subject for me.
@naturalgardeningagricolture
@naturalgardeningagricolture 10 ай бұрын
I tried the methods you teached in the videos and its owesome
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@missa8277
@missa8277 Жыл бұрын
Awesome just what I did first time trimming my old apple tree this helped me a ton! Yay! Thank you for your knowledge
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@laurenkalberer7789
@laurenkalberer7789 2 жыл бұрын
I took your pruning course and it was very good but it seems more geared to older trees. I have a lot of young trees and, of course, the branches all reach for the sky! There are only a few to choose from...no way I can have 15ish branches right now. Do I just cut 1 branch per year and hope the new growth will be in a position to train it downwards? Most of the time those new branches just want to spike up near parallel to the trunk!Thanks! I always love your videos 😄
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, for young trees mostly train rather than prune. Not pruning will allow your tree to produce earlier.
@robandnell4305
@robandnell4305 6 ай бұрын
I would like to know how muck proving you have to do with all those down angles? I do see your point on the pruning part.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 6 ай бұрын
Proving? I just look at my trees and what they do.
@vonries
@vonries 2 жыл бұрын
Is that true for most all fruiting trees, or is that only for apple? I was starting to do something like that on my stone fruit trees, but then heard not to go past 45⁰ from vertical. I had started weighing down my young tender branches, but then stopped when I heard I shouldn't be so aggressive with my branch angles.
@sjr7822
@sjr7822 2 жыл бұрын
First few minutes, wasn't it said any fruit tree?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes almost all fruit and nuts will do better with this technique (training rather than pruning in early years) except for pears which should be horizontal not below.
@WingardMT
@WingardMT 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak thanks for pointing this out!
@zondreajohnson-clark7612
@zondreajohnson-clark7612 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak ok so i just learned that when you install a new fruit tree you should prune heavily to encourage root growth. Is this still true or?
@thunderdove3764
@thunderdove3764 Жыл бұрын
@@zondreajohnson-clark7612 He just said in the comment above, from what I am deciphering, pruning is not the thing to do with young fruit trees, just train them with weights. Except pear trees, they should all be below horizontal, but pears, they need to be horizontal, not so much weighing required. I find Pears often tend to go downward easily, if I tried to do it too much, they might fold to the trunk below, not sure!
@scott1lori282
@scott1lori282 Жыл бұрын
I have apple trees 4 to 7 year old. My older ones produced a small bit last year. I want to train the trees to be like you're saying. I was thinking about hanging 16oz pop bottles with water appropriated to each branch to weight down branches. I know they can be tied down to train but would weights work too?
@angehs7647
@angehs7647 4 ай бұрын
Does this pruning method apply to pear trees?
@Rebecca-1111
@Rebecca-1111 Жыл бұрын
I found a wild apple tree outnin our 5 acre woods. It was full of apples last fall. Nature taking care of itself. Imagine that? 😊
@Kevscancave
@Kevscancave Жыл бұрын
Very interesting 👍😎👍Thanks so much!
@roccoconte2960
@roccoconte2960 8 ай бұрын
Is it the same for pear trees. Thanks for a great video Stephan.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 7 ай бұрын
Almost, just bend pear branches to horizontal, not below horizontal.
@gauravdiwan8710
@gauravdiwan8710 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful sir.
@matthewtaylor2185
@matthewtaylor2185 2 жыл бұрын
A lesson I am learning the hard way. Thid sure shines light on a lot of what I've been seeing but not understanding. I am going after my saw ri right now.
@matthewtaylor2185
@matthewtaylor2185 2 жыл бұрын
So what about hanging weights on the branches? I understand that a tree won't set spurs on vertical branches, so no fruit will never weight them down. I've always been afraid of disease or damage under the cloth hanger.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Weights can work.
@matthewtaylor2185
@matthewtaylor2185 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak I was just out there pruning today and realized I'm not that far off what I want my apple trees to be doing if I just trained them down. Paul Gautchi always said the fruit would train them, but they will never set fruit on the vertical branches all new growth seems to want to grow straight up. If they were at 15 degrees or less last year, they will bend to vertical on this year's growth. These trees are three and four years planted here. I think it was a huge mistake planting potted trees to begin with.
@joshwilson4032
@joshwilson4032 2 жыл бұрын
Mind blown. I feel like I should be paying you part of my tuition for my Hort. degree. :) Thank you for all the knowledge you share.
@Camera1931-p5v
@Camera1931-p5v 2 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks!
@jakobbrun6535
@jakobbrun6535 Жыл бұрын
This small video has changed how I view fruit trees completely :) Does this same concept apply for pears, plums, cherries etc. as well?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Yes it does! Except for pears which should not be trained below horizontal.
@jakobbrun6535
@jakobbrun6535 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, thanks :) Planting a small home orchard next autumn. Struggling a lot with spacing, because I have multiple different root stocks, but I figure to just give them lots of room, and then fill any gaps with shrubs. I've been binging your videos recently, there is so much information in them. Changed my views on wasps too. I still hate them, but now I also love them :P
@Jakg8484
@Jakg8484 10 ай бұрын
This made a lot of sense. Thank you very much.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@soronos8586
@soronos8586 2 жыл бұрын
I use low stress training to guide my trees. I don’t think I’ve ever actually pruned
@terigeorge5545
@terigeorge5545 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I was really convinced to buy the pruning course but $187!! What’s nice about the internet is that you can reach a lot of people and charge a small amount times many, many buyers. I guess he’s only trying to reach the professional pruners. Which is good but too pricey for me. But I do love his humor and knowledge and intend to stay subscribed to his channel. Don’t mind the commercial. He should be compensated for the views. And I will share his videos so he gets more views 😊.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Thanks Teri. Let me suggest you look at the first video from the course, it’s free and describes the simplest 3 step pruning approach I’ve ever seen.
@johnpolishak5646
@johnpolishak5646 8 ай бұрын
Great pruning video
@Anubalfer
@Anubalfer Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, my crab apple tree is enormous. Lost one of the trunks to borers one year and left with three. All have water sprouts everywhere. It's just really too big. Every video I see has small trees.
@MarkusBence
@MarkusBence 2 жыл бұрын
Im interested in your opinion about training/pruning peaches. Usually the central leader is removed early and the tree is pruned to a vase like shape. That way the training the branches below horizontal becomes more dificult and they will be farther away from the center of the tree and i dont like it. Also peaches grown fruit on one year wood. And here comes the question: Do you think leaving the central leader of the peach tree and traing the enough branches to be horizontal will produce fruit and not make a sucker fighter? I have the book: Growing Fruit Trees: Novel Concepts and Practices for Successful Care and Management and even there they suggest a lot of pruning and vase shape and i didnt find any similar training that looks like yours on the net yet.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen peach grown from seed and never pruned loaded with fruit on well placed branches on a central leader at 4 years. I guess the tree knows best. Try one that’s never been messed with, it’s impressive.
@teledadsgotpwned6122
@teledadsgotpwned6122 Жыл бұрын
​@@StefanSobkowiak Does branch angle affect how pear trees produce suckers and fruit? I just planted one this spring and came across your videos when researching how to prune fruit trees.
@flightographist
@flightographist 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips, I have found that hanging a heavy object, like an in-law, from the branches you want to keep for spatial geometry works well each spring; you don't have to keep them out there for long, convince them it is a spring glamping trip :)
@Kris4u
@Kris4u 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips Stefan!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes train the branches if possible , especially the young ones. Train is bending.
@vickisavage8929
@vickisavage8929 2 жыл бұрын
Ignorant question. Can the prunings be used for grafting or rooting for propagation? I have a LOT more hillside (acres and acres) than funds. Thank you.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the one year growth can be used to graft, you can try using branches as cuttings but they often have low %rooting.
@vickisavage8929
@vickisavage8929 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak Anything is better than nothing. I don’t want to, but I have to cut down the hillside so that the sun can melt the ice so it’s possible to get up and down the hill safely. The hillside is STEEP, and the road is cut in with a drop off on the downhill side. I’m looking at planting it to shorter growth, from ground covers to shrubs, preferably edible. Any recommendations would be more than welcome and MUCH appreciated. Thank you again.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Sun and spring will melt ice without cutting all the trees. Gravel, ashes, salt even wood chips can work on ice. Just suggestions.
@vickisavage8929
@vickisavage8929 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak I grew up in Minnesota, and am familiar with all of these. The problem is that it’s the ONLY road in and out for the neighborhood, and on a north facing slope that gets not enough sun to melt the ice with all of the shade, so I plan to replace the trees with lower growth. Given the steepness of the hillside (these are the back hills of the Arkansas Ozarks) sliding off the road means an IMMEDIATE drop off of between forty and three hundred feet. It’s insanity to leave the ground bare because of erosion, but I intend to recover the cut area immediately with edible plants at all levels except trees. Ice storms have blocked everybody in for days at a time, and one person under this roof drives a school bus and MUST be able to get to work. It breaks my heart to do this, because it’s probably ideal as is for growing wild American ginseng. Opened up, it will be too sunny. The dangerous part of the road is completely on my property, so I am the only one with authority to mitigate the danger.
@843thebear
@843thebear 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. Just had a look at my Bramley cooking apple tree (UK) and all the branches from the trunk are above horizontal, almost vertical. Maybe I ought to consider removing some?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
If they are not more than 4-5 cm you can bend them or spread them away from the trunk.
@theheritagehousesc
@theheritagehousesc 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use the same pruning method for pears?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Except go to horizontal and not below. Pears are the exception.
@laurenkalberer7789
@laurenkalberer7789 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak I have a pear tree that is my only tree out of about 20 other mixed varieties (apples, plum, peaches, etc) that naturally and effortlessly has those nice, low-bent branches. It does really well! Should I be training them to go up to horizontal?!
@sjr7822
@sjr7822 2 жыл бұрын
How do you train the branches, tie-down with rope to a stake in the ground?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
We use pre-formed wires to grab the branch with one end and the other to the trunk.
@dwarftoad
@dwarftoad 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak What do you mean by "pre-formed" -- Thanks!!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
We bend them in the workshop before going out in the orchard. Extra pigtails on each end to be safe to use.
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 Жыл бұрын
maybe I want both branches? it's more tree... eventually it will work it's self out. what if the main branch gets some kinda dieback and I need another branch?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Yes you can keep more than one trunk.
@Psilocinoid
@Psilocinoid 6 ай бұрын
How would I start this on a young tree? I have a winesap that only have 45* + branch angles and I'm worried because we didn't get fruit this year (the trees second year in soil) it'll set and be a sucker factory. Help!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 6 ай бұрын
Bend the branches down and tie them. See my pruning videos playlist.
@ALISTAIRGENERALE
@ALISTAIRGENERALE 5 ай бұрын
Does your course offer solutions to mature apple trees which are 20 years old?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 5 ай бұрын
These trees are 40 and 15 years old. We hope to add one video this year to the course specifically about abandoned old tree.
@pilemon7229
@pilemon7229 6 ай бұрын
Does this applicable for orange trees too?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure but I have 0 experience with orange.
@lilysikiku211
@lilysikiku211 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight 😊
@DanielSpiegel
@DanielSpiegel 10 ай бұрын
Does this work for Cherry trees as well?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 10 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s a hormonal reaction for most trees.
@multi_misa72
@multi_misa72 2 жыл бұрын
Just about to buy an apple and pare tree..thanks a bunch.
@ALTJR
@ALTJR 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!... A KZbin video with the SUCKERS ometer Award... No block... Hehehehe... 😉🌱
@TylerScotPK
@TylerScotPK 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the science behind this? Why would branch angle determine whether or not it has suckers?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Look up auxins as a plant hormone and see it’s effects on apical dominance.
@yippikiyay197
@yippikiyay197 2 жыл бұрын
So we want less vigorous branches? Why wouldn't we want to pick a couple suckers? I'm a bit confused, what is the goal and reason for the low angle? I feel like you did a great job explaining what, but I don't understand the why behind it.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Why relates to the change of hormones from branch growing hormone to fruit bearing when angle is below horizontal.
@andreac.6164
@andreac.6164 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan! Thank you thank you! Can I apply this to my Stella cherry tree? Love you and appreciate all your videos. Merci from your neighbor in the NEK VT
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes works great on cherries
@MartyFRsfNE
@MartyFRsfNE 2 жыл бұрын
WHY does the Fruit Tree produce Water Sprouts if not to benefit the Tree ( more leaves for photosynthesis/energy! ) in some way ?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Waterspouts are pretty well wasted energy
@aniE1869
@aniE1869 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't eat the pistachio ice cream, it has turned!"
@littlehomesteadbythebeach
@littlehomesteadbythebeach 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'll have new apple trees this spring so your information is very important for me! I don't know if I can ask a question? One of my apple tree died of fire blight few years back. It is still there, just a stick in the ground. Is it safe to replace it with another apple tree or I should find another place and forget forever about this exact spot?
@Tsuchimursu
@Tsuchimursu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert on fireblight (as in no experience with it) but I'd say if it's in your area, the exact spot doesn't matter as much as the cultivar of apple you plant. Get a blight resistant cultivar. It's also possible that the spot is somehow unideal for apple trees in general, remember that stressed weak plants are more prone to getting sick.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
The other reply is correct, some cultivars are very susceptible, avoid them. That spot may have too high water table. Best to rotate to something else even for a couple of years then you can try again.
@littlehomesteadbythebeach
@littlehomesteadbythebeach 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak Thank you!
@littlehomesteadbythebeach
@littlehomesteadbythebeach 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tsuchimursu Thank you!
@jremedy7053
@jremedy7053 Жыл бұрын
Does this apply to other fruit trees? Specifically pear?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Yes just don’t bend pear branches below horizontal, just to horizontal
@jennkeller4914
@jennkeller4914 Жыл бұрын
Its May. Shes so heavily overgrown. It breaks my heart. Can I prune her now? I feel like I'd be hurting her, but the weight is clearly damaging her as well.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
At this time of year I would just remove smaller branches. Best to just focus on the ones UNDER the main branches (step 3 of my other pruning videos). Big branches are best left for when the tree is dormant or in case of fireblight.
@rogerjoesbury9410
@rogerjoesbury9410 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, simple and easy.
@zane4utwo
@zane4utwo Жыл бұрын
Does this info z work for stone fruits also?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
Especially on stone fruit which can really grow vigorous suckers.
@garyfreeman5999
@garyfreeman5999 2 жыл бұрын
Do suckers eventually form spurs and then fruit?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes eventually but they can also grotto be another top.
@angrybees8122
@angrybees8122 11 ай бұрын
Is it the same with pear trees?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 11 ай бұрын
Pears are the exception. Train branches to horizontal not below.
@dwarftoad
@dwarftoad 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear more about training, from Stefan and from commenters. I've been trying to train a few branches but the cheap ropes I've used to hold them down keeps degrading. So I should get something good and not have to keep replacing it! Anyone have a suggestion for the best rope/twine/wire to use that will last? Any tips on stakes? (I've tried typical short-ish (
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
I should do a video on training branches.
@vickisavage8929
@vickisavage8929 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak PLEASE DO!
@SamStone1964
@SamStone1964 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak Yes please!
@marymcandrew7667
@marymcandrew7667 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanSobkowiak YES Please!! I have about 20 brand new bareroot trees we planted a month ago, I want to learn how to do this NOW so they can grow best. It was a huge investment for us and I'm keen to do the best I can. I love your videos Stefan!
@a-what2483
@a-what2483 2 жыл бұрын
I love this guy
@chalisewatson4201
@chalisewatson4201 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! We have a very old apple tree that has mainly vehicle branches. What would you do then? How do you do that when they are almost all verticle?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
I would remove 1-2 of the most vertical per year for 3 years and train the new growth to be horizontal or below horizontal. This way over 3 years you still get crop while the tree transforms to an easy to manage branch pattern.
@chalisewatson4201
@chalisewatson4201 2 жыл бұрын
Ok! Thank you!! Also, I watched your other videos about Apple tree that won't produce, but you did not cover this- this apple tree flowers and even grows little apples, but then they all fall off before maturity. Why would that be?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
It’s normal that a good number fall off, it’s called June drop but not normal for all to fall off. It’s either a lack of pollination or a specific nutrient deficiency like boron or some other trace element.
@Sunny-oi6zw
@Sunny-oi6zw 2 жыл бұрын
How can I boost my flowering Please Suggest me spray on pink bud and everything
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
You can try liquid fish and seaweed.
@WanderingNature
@WanderingNature 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@amanami4126
@amanami4126 2 жыл бұрын
How about peach tree? Does the same apply?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t have any but yes from what I’ve seen.
@velonico
@velonico 2 жыл бұрын
Im assuming this applies to all trees. Ive been cutting suckers from ornamental pear trees in Chicago area... ill watch the videos! thanks!
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Except pears which should be horizontal not below.
@gfutube1
@gfutube1 2 жыл бұрын
You are so informative
@jrdahl711
@jrdahl711 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 pear trees that haven't been pruned before. Almost all of the main branches grow up, very bad branch angles. I'd practically have to strip it off branches to fix. Any suggestions?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak Жыл бұрын
When there are many trunks you can cut some of them out, not all the same year. And or treat each of the trunks as separate trees and let them grow branches.
@barrettloraine1486
@barrettloraine1486 2 жыл бұрын
Is it the same process for plumb, cherry and most other fruit trees?
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Yes except pear, keep pear horizontal not below.
@captaintanker7
@captaintanker7 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where people notch to get branches on young trees but will that work on a very old full size tree with a trunk 12 inches and thick mature bark? I want to keep these trees because they were planted by my great-grandfather & grandfather, but they are difficult to prune because of their height. One doesn't have branches lower than 8 feet above ground level. If that doesnt work can I graft a cutting from the tree lower on the mature trunk? I've not seen any videos of someone doing this because most have no emotional connection to the physical trees.
@StefanSobkowiak
@StefanSobkowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Look at my other pruning videos or watch the first video in the pruning course (pruningcourse.com) and use the first step of clearing the chimney, just clear all branches up to 1.5-2’ from the trunk, it will wake up latent buds and start new branches.
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