PS5 PRO - Quit whining! It's not THAT expensive.

[@brokeandtired]

$913.88....in BRITAIN.....WITHOUT stand or drive. Its expensive. To put that into perspective I can upgrade my PC to a USED 5800X3D AND a USED RX6900XT for that.

[@sirvern7825]

Well upgrade your PC then. This isn't something you MUST buy. Come back for more advice

[@wils35]

Upgrade your master race machine.

[@sirvern7825]

@@wils35 haha it's too old and crappy! I'll save up and get a really good one

[@KowaiYatsura]

@@sirvern7825 upgrade your low effort content

[@sirvern7825]

@@KowaiYatsura I'll try! Thanks man

[@wonkabars6982]

I cannot justify spending $700+ on a system refresh with minimal upgrades and feature cutbacks, especially with the way Sony has been running itself lately. By all means, people can go out and buy whatever they want if they can afford it, but I believe $700 can be better spent elsewhere these days in this economy.

[@Kensterrrrr]

But you'll buy the same phone every year

[@johnboylan3832]

@@Kensterrrrr Non-sequitur.

[@ActivisionDMCA]

"Greed has no Limits" - Sony

[@sirvern7825]

Brutal haha

[@Kensterrrrr]

Coming from someone with Activision in their name... microtransaction king of greed. Try again.

[@shadowsimarchitect9679]

Yeah, because the price of everything hasn't gone up. Apparently gaming is supposed to be off limits.

[@Michael-jr3gz]

"Xbox has no Games" - Microsoft

[@Gangurojon]

Wanna buy me one then, Mr. Moneybags?

[@Kensterrrrr]

Problem is that these generation systems are underpowered. The upgrade is welcome to me.

[@jimmytimber7074]

I think $700 would of been fine with a disc drive, stand and dual sense edge.

[@sirvern7825]

@@jimmytimber7074 well of course it would. That's nearly $300 worth of hardware.

[@johnboylan3832]

@@sirvern7825 It costs $300; it isn't worth that.

[@anthonyburton5814]

I think it’s too expensive but that’s just my opinion which I’m entitled to. How do I fee about people that want to buy the PS5? I couldn’t care less! If you afford it then fair play to you. It’s your money and you are free to spend it on whatever you want. That’s how I see it.

[@sirvern7825]

@@anthonyburton5814 Good take

[@polishdude001]

I think all the logical people agree that it’s just not worth what they’re offering. Simple.

[@jomo4502]

@polishdude001 I'm more "logical" than those people you think are logical, and I'll tell you right now... worth is based on opinion. Everyone is trying to compare apples and oranges.. PC vs Pro cost and Yada Yada Yada... what about Pro vs. phone, or Pro vs VR, or Pro vs. an Arcade cabinet that plays 1 lousy game and costs thousands of dollars? I see people every day walking around with those ridiculous apple headphones that cost almost $600 .... again... worth is based on opinion. No one can win this debate. That's why it will go on for years.

[@Nick-mq9vz]

This guy is completely wrong. 'Its not for you.' Niether was Concord and look what that did to Sony.

[@daverock9091]

what does concord have to do with the hardware thats the ps5pro lol dude youre for real

[@Nick-mq9vz]

@@daverock9091 It's about the price and Sony trying to target an obscure portion of the market that doesn't exist.

[@daverock9091]

@@Nick-mq9vz the pro is for the hardcore gamers that want the best gaming experience avaiable on a console .... This dont need to sell more than the base ps5 or move every ps5 owner to ps5 pro ..... you think the iphone pro max is for every iphone owner ? Most people buy the base iphone You need a better example ....can you justify the existance of the 4090 ? That card is almost 2000 and at max settings 4k it only have over 20 fps more than the 4080 and the 4080 has roughly 10 to 20 fps more on some games over the 4070 .... so whats the point in having multiple gpus that can all play the same game with barely 20 to 40 fps boost ...keep in mind they are priced at 700/1200/1800 ...so ? Its options its an option for who can afford and want the best and most out of their experience .....it could be a phone a pc a gpu or even a car Have a good day man 👍

[@Nick-mq9vz]

@@daverock9091 dumbest comment I've heard. Keep falling for that trick and we will all be paying double in the near future. You have been well and truly conned.

[@daverock9091]

@@Nick-mq9vz dumbest guy i had to talk to .... drive an uber dude 😂

[@MedalionDS9]

This kind of logic is like... duh $700 not that much money compared to buying a house... just keep moving those goalposts.

[@sirvern7825]

Terrible argument. But thanks for stopping by!

[@joseijosei]

Exactly, like, a gaming console is not a phone or a car.

[@TordanPidgesater]

@@joseijosei I actually got a brand new $350 samsung a54 and its awesome. It didnt make me want to buy a $700 console with no games.

[@joseijosei]

@@TordanPidgesater Yeah, I get that, and it's a good phone, but my point is you need that phone, and adding more money to get a better one can let you take better pictures or videos of things you see during a trip, to use an example, or let you have more space for them, edit video faster, or do a lot of useful things on the go. You can spend more money on a better car, and maybe now the car has line assist, park assist, and it's a lot more safer, so you can avoid spending money because or small mistakes, or, NOT F*CKING DIE in a car accident. This is why the comparison between phone, cars and gaming consoles are so dumb. If you want compare a gaming console to something that you may spend a lot of money on, that's a computer (like a PC or laptop, because technically a console is a computer), because both do gaming, but then again, in 2024 you need a computer because it does far more than a console. No one needs a console.

[@Kensterrrrr]

What a dumb comment. Stop commenting, you are terrible at it.

[@CarlosFernandez-nh2dm]

It IS that expensive. 700 dollars for a gaming system. It might not be expensive for you but for the vast majority of people it certainly is if you pay attention. Also a phone is expensive but my job and a bunch of other peoples job requires a smart phone- not to mention it’s almost crucial to own a smart phone living in the modern world to keep in touch with family and friends- a playstation 5 is not. Look beyond your fanatism.

[@CarlosFernandez-nh2dm]

Not to mention most people don’t go out and buy a phone full price on the spot- they are leased and sold on bundles or deals along with payment plans- that people go for since it’s their only way to afford a phone. Oh and 700 dollars is affordable to people in america with a decent job- but not for the rest of the world my friends in mexico have really good jobs and a ps5 pro is absolutely unaffordable for most of them. It’s overpriced and aimed at a very niche audience.

[@sirvern7825]

It sounds like you and your friends should stick with the PS5 digital edition. Let me know if you need any more advice. ;)

[@Andy-Aims]

I agree. You could have a decent pc for a little more money.

[@HiCZoK]

it's NOT that expensive. basic iphone is expensive, everything in tech is more expensive. new nvidia gpus are way over 1k and only 20% faster than last gen. this is 200$ more than ps5 base and you get 4k60 aim.

[@MT-er9yk]

@@HiCZoK That explains why Hogwarts Legacy ran at 30 FPS when they showed it off. The 60 FPS has always been a lie and will always be from the console manufacturers. It will be the PS4 Pro again, offering 30 for the "nice graphics option" and a staggered 40-60 for the few everything else that is "upgraded" Expect close to 60 fps from First Party, and then a half assed port with old Ray Tracing tech and locked/sub 30 fps from everyone else. Just for a $250+ price increase this time around instead of a $100 one. Keep in mind new Nvidia GPUs that you claim are priced higher blow the PS5 and Pro out of the water in terms of performance. Sony always moves towards "grafix" over performance, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. The PS5 Pro demo proves it.

[@DeathAdder9000]

I thought this was going to be a troll/ironic kind of video, but this Reddit mod is serious, lol...lmao even. Embarrassing. $700 Before tax No disc drive* No stand No games *Digital, so if your account gets hacked and/or banned, all of your games and little ecosystem are gone. YOU are a part of the problem.

[@sirvern7825]

Haha ok. Thanks for stopping by!

[@DribbleP]

Go make a pc with the specs of the ps5 pro and what it can do with 2tb ssd storage for 600 😂😂

[@DeathAdder9000]

@@DribbleP Must defend giant faceless corporation overlords! *slurp slurp gag slurp slurp*

[@tguit-fiddler5692]

@@DribbleP Can you mod your Ps5 games? Can you access your video and music library from your phone, secondary PC or friends phone? Can you record music on your Ps5? Can you pick and choose level of detail settings? Can you run 4k without upscaling? What about additional storage drives, of any variety? What about older games(not even taking emulation into account) or mouse and keyboard support. It'd be hard to match the performance at $700, maybe impossible, but $700 is a good start and you could match the normal Ps5 for $700 easy and then upgrade it down line, especially after the launch of the next GPU generation when prices go down on the last gen. $700 seems excessive for something you're locked into and only plays games.

[@originalauthor]

@@sirvern7825 EAD

[@MiyazakisPVPexperience]

Finally someone had the baIls to say it. This huge shilling campaign against Sony needs to stop ASAP

[@xOriginalGamerOG76x]

$699 is £590. £590 isn't that expensive. £699 is $913. So yeah. It's expensive.

[@SIPEROTH]

In the US is expensive but not that hard of a buy, in the EU, Britain and Japan is just a hard buy. In the US it feels like is a little too much for a console but in other places it feels like is too much in general.

[@Jpcraque]

And a GPU is??? With 700$ you can't even get the RTX 4080 or 4090.....so no it's not that expensive comparing with gaming PCs

[@Codyslx]

The ps5 pro is not a gaming pc. A gaming pc has far more utility than just gaming.

[@redharrison894]

If you are not a gamer..why are you here?

[@Blue-jt2wz]

Most people that have gaming Pc don’t even use those “utility’s” don’t lie yourself

[@elbananerosape1233]

@Codyslx because a ps5 pro its a fucking console bro lmao, Playstation it's console videogame and media ecosystem, nobody it's saying ps5 it's a fucking pc gaming lol, we are saying that it will move games like a pc gaming not that it will be a pc gaming bro

[@Fytyny]

@@Blue-jt2wz You mean they are not browsing the Internet?

[@budgetking2591]

i do every day, stop capping.

[@neku2741]

The problem is that it's bad value for the price. It's close to $900 with tax and all the upgrade but can do a fraction what a $900 pc can. Not to mention you still have to pay monthly subscription to play online whereas it's free on pc. Also a pc can do so much more than just play games and pc games are much much cheaper. The reason nobody speak positively about it because there's nothing positive to talk about.

[@SIPEROTH]

@JamJam0189 I don't think is a big risk for Sony. For it to be so expensive it probably means Sony are pulling a Nintendo here and not subsidizing the hardware. This means that they don't really care whether it sells well or not since they aren't taking a risk on it. I think they just treat it as something extra that raises their value to a certain demographic while still seeing the normal PS5 as the hardware they really want people to get.

[@SIPEROTH]

Well the can do a fraction of what a $900 PC can to is debatable because you assume people that will want this are interested on other factions of a PC and not just games. Someone that only cares about having a gaming device can find this as a better bargain since a 900 PC won't be as powerful even though it can have more factions.

[@DarkestHeroQB]

I have no words for this video.....

[@nintenjoel]

This video has aged like milk, after a whole day. Neat.

[@sirvern7825]

Thanks haha

[@duaplex1]

It is expensive. You are talking about a console at £780 (with disc drive) in the UK when we are facing more energy price hikes like the rest of Europe and record highs with inflation. They are going to launch this targetting families for Christmas, aiming for children. Personally, I'll keep my PS5 standard and use my 4090 to smoke this. So its got nothing to do with being able to afford it, I just don't like being insulted by Sony when they want me to spend this sort of money for what is a minor upgrade. Now, had they pushed the VR2 I would be all over it, becuase that paper weight is sitting here gathering dust.

[@sirvern7825]

Offering different levels of a product is not insulting. If you don't want it, no problem. The base PS5 is amazing. The PSVR2 DOES need more games. And different genres of games. That I agree with you with.

[@wils35]

If you don't like the new Pro's price, best thing to do is not buy it.

[@sirvern7825]

@@wils35 exactly! Why be mad about it haha

[@LiberatedMind1]

@@sirvern7825 Ain't nobody mad but you.

[@sirvern7825]

@@LiberatedMind1 oh yea. I'm furious

[@yc_030]

I hope sony is at least paying you for this shilling otherwise this is pathetic

[@sirvern7825]

@@yc_030 💰🤑

[@mavkajutsu]

lol

[@Jpcraque]

Pathetic is people like you that they think that other people need to have the same as opinion as you do no matter what....

[@TordanPidgesater]

coping

[@Azav312]

To me, it's just not worth $700. I can afford that price tag, but to me, it's not WORTH that price.

[@sirvern7825]

@@Azav312 I can respect that

[@Kensterrrrr]

Honest comment and I'm doing the same and completely agree.

[@ntme9]

Saying that you can't afford a PC after saying that you have multiple hundreds of PS5 games 😂

[@sirvern7825]

Haha good point.

[@causerDAguv]

IKR these people are brain dead. pC iS ToO EpEnSiVe ......goes out and buys a OG model then a Limited edition model and a Pro LOL. Console only people will always be plebs.

[@SIPEROTH]

Well that is a $5000 PC. So a very expensive machine, not just any PC. Of course with all the money he pays for games and consoles he could built one but it means he will have to not get all those games he enjoys etc and that is i assume a sacrifice he doesn't want to do therefore he considers it as not being able to afford the $5000 PC even though technically he could.

[@joseijosei]

​@@SIPEROTHWhat do you mean $5000 PC? Which $5000 PC?

[@Airinas96]

Not expensive for a launch system with hardware that matches the price, but expensive for a mid gen refresh where the jump isn't as big and when there should be a price decrease and value propositions for the current console but we're getting the opposite.

[@sirvern7825]

How much should it cost?

[@Airinas96]

@@sirvern7825 PS5 400$ and PS5 Pro 600$ would be more reasonable but honestly the pro shouldn't exist. They should just release PS6 a year earlier and game optimisation should just prioritise one mode and make it as good as it can be instead of slapping on half baked poorly optimised band aid solution of ugly af performance mode or laggy af quality modes. Options are NOT always better.

[@DribbleP]

​​​@@Airinas96so you want a high end pc near perfect 4k locked at 60fps with r.t for 600 with a 2 tb ssd 😂😂 are you deluded go make a pc with that with the same specs and 2tb storage

[@Airinas96]

@@DribbleP Like I said the pro shouldn't even exist and PS5 games should prioritise frame rate and sharpness displayed in the pro showcase with reduced graphics quality. Ray tracing is too expensive to be worth using in the first place.

[@earlyriser03]

@@DribbleP According to Cerny, no, since the PS5 audience prefers Performance modes "three-quarters of the time" over Fidelity modes. In other words, audiences are fine with high performance targets at lower resolutions and graphical cuts. The Pro is a product for developers and enthusiasts, but doesn't reflect what the majority of customers want.

[@iroony89]

Haha these clowns saying $700 is fine because we’re told it’s ok for it to cost that much. These idiots allow companies like Apple, Nvidia and Sony to thrive.

[@YouTubeCensors]

I concur

[@jgunner94]

You don’t seem to realise consoles are usually made at a loss so let’s not act like this much for a pro version is unbelievable.

[@iroony89]

@@jgunner94 the PS5 pro is more than likely sold at cost not at a loss.

[@jgunner94]

@@iroony89 But your initial comment is implying they’re selling them for way more than they’re worth.

[@iroony89]

@@jgunner94 correct. Consoles have always been aimed at gamers who can’t afford high end PC’s. Charging that sort of price, then pushing digital games, not including a cheap ass plastic stand is pretty much unacceptable. The only reason Sony have taken this business route is probably because of all the money they lost on concord, and let’s be real they haven’t had any decent 1st party games in ages. Essentially greed

[@owensoft]

Sony destroying the console market one move at a time

[@sirvern7825]

@@owensoft I kinda agree

[@emcsecurity9871]

how?

[@Jpcraque]

Well XBOX or now "Microsoft Gaming" started destroying itself first and melting away with every month this year with bad news following more bad news so...... at this piont Sony can do the Hell they want to do....

[@sirvern7825]

@@Jpcraque yep and that is sad and bad for the gaming industry 😔

[@Jpcraque]

@@sirvern7825 that bad for all gamers no matter your platform!!! I have been watching the "console wars" for 25 years and i can say that's sad to see what the gaming industry have become! And this is only this company's fault.... it really feels like i am just watching a sinking ship at this point...

[@RyanHumeniuk]

When is everyone going to learn? ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRICE OF THE PRO, ITS ABOUT THE VALUE YOUR GETTING FOR THE PRICE WHICH IS PURE GARBAGE. ITS A SCAM AND A RIPOFF FOR WHAT YOUR GETTING FOR MY 1000$ (HERE IN CANADA) I'D RATHER SPEND ANOTHER 1500$ AND GET A GOOD GAMEING PC THAN SPEND A GRAND ON A CONSOLE THAT STILL WILL BE NOT BE OPTIMIZED TO RUN EVERYTHING AT 60 FPS, ESPECIALLY SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PS5. THIS WILL BE MY LAST CONSOLE AND SONY IS A COMPLETE DUMSTER FIRE. I CANT BELIEVE ITS 2024 AND WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT GAMES NOT BEING ABLE TO RUN AT 60FPS ON CONSOLE. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC

[@mrcrunch8000]

You act like $700 is actually all it cost. You can't ignore that monthly fee if you want to play online, the absurdly priced games, the complete removal of components a $200 cheaper version offers and the fact Sony gets substantially more money from games compared to pc. Their fees are why consoles have historically been sold at a loss. Not only that, it has been 4 years and there still hasn't been a reduction in the cost of this gen of consoles. We are at a point when you can spend very similar money building a pc and get ps5 pro performance with cheaper games, no monthly fee to play online and freedom to use you pc to do other things. It's $700(+ tax and don't forget the disk drive) for a proprietary locked down pc that requires a monthly paid service to fully use that also denies you the ability to use it for anything else. You buy it, stop trying to convince others to not be smart with their money.

[@CCoreXB]

The PS5 Pro drama is blown out of proportion, and i’m saying this as an Xbox fan. It’s exactly the price i had expected it to be. If you have a fairly good tv and you can afford it… go for it!

[@armedhyde1448]

The $700 price point isn't the issue; it's the value proposition. The PS5 Pro isn't worth $700 because it doesn't offer $700 in investment. You brought up expensive phones, and you're right-they're pricey, but they provide significantly more value to consumers. The same applies to PCs. You could build a $700 PC, but with a bit more investment, you’d get far greater value. The PS5 Pro feels similar to Apple's VR solution, which is outrageously priced and a complete flop.

[@sirvern7825]

@@armedhyde1448 good points!

[@Jpcraque]

You are paying for the "plug and play" experience easy solution and a system that will work for you for 5 years it's not if it worth it or not.... if that was the case apple would be out business many,many years ago with their disgusting prices

[@Kensterrrrr]

Guarantee it doesn't flop. How many PS5s have sold in 4 years? Like 60 million? They will sell at least 15 million pros

[@Surgicaldamage]

If you can afford 2 PS5s and 2 PROs, you can get a reasonable gaming PC.

[@Kensterrrrr]

Get a tan and stop obsessing about your PC. Some people have a life. Go make love to your personal computer

[@KnowledgeSimmons]

I’m getting the Pro because I’m used to having the best out. I also plan to surprise my cousin and her child’s father on welcoming their first child together by gifting them my Slime

[@synt4x1e]

"Hey, leave the billion dollar company that don't give a shit about me, alone!! 😡"

[@supermugiboy]

The phone argument is dumb because we objectively use our phones more than a gaming console.

[@sirvern7825]

@@supermugiboy not dumb. You CAN buy a $200 dollar smart phone. But you CHOOSE to buy a better phone. I doubt you go on the phone manufacturers website and leave negative comments about their PRO phones. Haha come on

[@bentennyson2398]

@@sirvern7825 And there it is the contradiction that shows you up to be a hypocrite, you could buy a ps5 yet you choose to buy the ps5 pro just because Sony say it’s better. Do you always believe what companies who are after your money say 🤔

[@supermugiboy]

@@sirvern7825 Yes, I choose to buy a better phone because I objectively use it more than my gaming devices.

[@Kensterrrrr]

You probably buy a new iPhone every year because "it's better" sheep

[@KillerCEOZ]

New times people, pc components are just more expensive than 3 years ago so yeah.

[@mikeypie24]

So pay 700 for games you’ve already played. Now with better frame rates. I’ll pass. Don’t preach other people about what’s expensive what’s not expensive. If you want to buy go ahead.

[@sirvern7825]

@@mikeypie24 I will and did. :)

[@JustAnotherGamer1005]

I think most of the problem indeed stems from things not going down in price. I never bought a PS4. When I wanted to buy a PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro was anounced, so I waited for that one. It was especially nice, because when it released, it got the price of the original PS4 and the PS4 (Slim) was reduced. It's not so much the (relative) difference between the PS5 and the Pro, but because the PS5 doesn't get a price-reduction, the PS5 Pro gets a price bump. And gets hardware pulled out of it (disc drive). I expected, with the consideration that things have become more expensive, the Pro to be max 650€ with the disc drive included. A disc drive in my country is around 120€. And I need a disc drive, because most my games are physical. Same for the PSVR2, just way too expensive at the moment. I could live with it during it's initial release, as I wasn't in a hurry. But I expected a bit of a price reduction when the Pro will be released. I don't own a PS5, and if the Pro doesn't get a pricetag that is more affordable for me, I will be skipping this generation. And probably quit console gaming all together, if this money-hungry business is keeping that trend. Then I'll enjoy my PS3, PS4 and PSVita for the remainder (maybe even my PS1 and PS2). I borrowed a (digital) PS5 from my nephew the last 2 weeks. And although it is nice, especially the controller, I'm not that much impressed with the game-offerings, that would make me want to spend that much money, while I can still even enjoy my PS3 and PS4 games. The PS5 Pro is for me, but not just at that price. I'm unfortunate enough to be in a situation that I can't generate a decent income. Gaming was kind of an escape for me, but now even that isn't on the table anymore. [Btw: Not as a stab at you, but those 'stop being poor' jokes people are making the last few years, are really disgusting and disrespectful. It shows how out of touch people are and how ignorant they are about the world and/or their neighbourhood. That in a society that claims to care about everyone and everything. here is nothing funny about being poor... and no, it's not a choice! It just shows people can't see past their own life and experiences.]

[@sirvern7825]

@@JustAnotherGamer1005 I can understand that! I think there are some great games for PS5, just not enough exclusives. True exclusives. If you do end up wanting one, you can get a used PS5 at a decent rate.

[@raven80wolfx2]

Sony milks you so hard jacking up the price of everything and you can't defend it. I bought a pc, and I am sticking with it. Sony refuses to drop prices stop releasing games. This generation is a bust. Millions of dollars wasted turns into milking consumers. Ps5 pro doesn't need to cost that much. Sony doesnt want to lose money on console sales. Controller sales and everything. They jack all the prices up and you defend it.

[@sirvern7825]

Expert on hardware prices? Tell us more

[@raven80wolfx2]

@@sirvern7825 The issue with ps5 pro is it has newest gpu generation in it for high ray tracing. So at the moment we are waiting for amd to release that generation to the public. It's called rdna 4 or rx 8000. Intel releasing cheaper gpu and nvidia will need to compete. Cpu hasn't changed and 3700x is cheap. You can build a pc close to ps5 pro. It's not about money for why I don't buy Sony. It's principle when you mess up you don't jack up the price of psn to play online controllers that have stick drift still cost 5 more dollars. Meanwhile they could add hall joysticks. Sony doesn't care about adding value only price to everything they have. Only reason they drop price of psvr2. Because people refuse to buy it. It's crazy how if you didn't buy it and told them no. You would get it cheaper. You just accept it meanwhile sony says we can charge this much because they have no competition. So it's up to consumers to fight against the price.

[@dkozzzbeatz8079]

PS5 was 499 at launch, and PS3 was 599 back in 06’. They are not jacking up prices. People are just ignorant.

[@raven80wolfx2]

@dkozzzbeatz8079 Back when ps3 was that much, it had a built-in ps2. They raised the price of everything recently. Please use common sense and do your research.

[@sirvern7825]

@@raven80wolfx2 doesn't the PS5 have a built in PS4? Something to consider.

[@DeesBees85]

You do not need a 120hz tv to get a benefit from the PS5 Pro. Any game that has an improved resolution or clarity will still look better on any 4K TV. Also, the PS6 will absolutely offer a disc drive. It will just be optional like it is with the Pro. Sony is not going to walk away from 25% of their customers who still want physical games. They will offer them an option.

[@sirvern7825]

I hope you're right about the PS6!

[@jiggerypokery2962]

People who say, just buy a PC, just don't understand what it's like to be in an ecosystem. I have 125 games, that includes 17 games in my backlog and more than that in my replay pile not to mention PS+ extra. So ~40-50 or so games I have at no added cost. That's years of games I'd have to rebuy on PC if i went to PC making PC more expensive.

[@ignacio6454]

I finally found the MODERN AUDIENCE guy!!

[@DustinBarlow8P]

You are paying $700 for something a $300 GPU does MUCH BETTER! They also make you pay $80 for a Disk Drive? Meaning it is one more step towards the day that you can only buy digital, which you don't own, and they can update at any time, taking features out?.... People defending this makes me sick to my stomach. Actually making Video Games worse.

[@MillenniumFalcon]

Totally agree with you. Its so much less than what you pay for a phone or a tablet these days like you said. I think the price overall is like a $300 markup at the end of the day because it doesn't include a disc drive or stand which is silly. But some of that is offset by the higher performance, double the internal storage, and AstroBoat which is like $60.

[@patrickdodson1713]

I know people who were planning to wait until the PS5 Pro dropped and they've changed their minds when they saw the price, and will be getting a regular PS5 or Slim instead. Consider the fact that in some markets, it is already over $950 without Taxes, like it is in Canada. Going all in with the stand and disc drive brings it at around $1100 CND! So yes, it is expensive, and it edges out potential customers in markets like these. Sony isn't doing themselves any favours.

[@JMC180]

For those of you who don’t want to video edit 3d work or anything like that you can make a really good pc for even under 600 bucks of pure performance and you can always torrent games on pc

[@JMC180]

My first pc costed me literally 160 all together and played everything I needed it to

[@sirvern7825]

My current gave me PC was $240. It isn't good but it works!

[@shadowsimarchitect9679]

Anyone complaining about the PS5 Pro price is entitled. Gaming is a premium hobby. You're not entitled to it. You got lucky, and were born in a first world country where we can experience things like this. The consoles are made for people that have money, and that arent struggling with their finances. It's not like you're locked out of next gen. You're simply not the target demographic. Dont worry about these negative comments. These people are straight up npcs.😂 Most of these people probably payed for a PS5 and arent even playing on a t.v that utilizes that. You pretty much have to spend top dollar to experience the current generation, but most of these normies probably cant even fathom that. T.V companies will make a better version of a t.v every year, and I dont see the normies coming out of the woodwork complaining about that. If you really think about it. When it comes to any product, you could pick up overtime, or get a side gig for two weeks to a month, and easily come up with the money for something like this. On top of the entitlement people are straight up lazy.

[@sirvern7825]

Exactly!

[@mavkajutsu]

If the PS5 Pro can do 1440p 60FPS, HDR, Raytracing, and at high settings. Then $800 including the disc drive is justified. I have a RTX 4070 Super which cost $600, this card is capable of doing of what the PS5 Pro can do. But with the PC I have to have a monitor, CPU, PSU, motherboard, RAM, CPU Cooler, Computer Case, windows 10 license etc. this is gonna cost more than +$1500. Not only it’s more expensive, there’s a lot of technical no how, a bit of troubleshooting etc. sometimes people just want to pay for a dedicated plug and play console, buy the game and begin playing and not have to deal with a PC. A lot of people just see the price and not think about okay, why is it that price and what can it do that the PS5 can’t do. (it can fix FF7 Rebirth Performance mode for example) the PS5 Pro is not for everyone but for the dedicated PlayStation users who would love to harness the power of higher frame rates, raytracing, better render distances, sharper image quality with PSSR.

[@sirvern7825]

@@mavkajutsu here here!

[@kylepatrick113]

I have a very similar look on all this, I still have a ps2 ps3, ps4 pro and ps5 I work on my own systems, have duplicates of systems to replace parts etc. and I don’t plan on buying a ps6 either if it goes full digital. So technically the ps5 pro could very well be the last system I ever own. I’ll be considered a “retro” gamer.

[@Denjiki]

One thing people don't take into perspective is that you can still enjoy and play PS5 games buying a regular PS5. The PS5 Pro is for people who are willing to pay the extra money to get a mild graphics upgrade. You don't HAVE to buy it to play PS5 games. Is it too much money? Yes. Is it that big of a deal? No. It would be a COMPLETELY different story if the base PS5 was $700. With all that being said, if they made the PS5 Pro in a similar vein as the launch PS3 where it was backward compatible with all previous gens, I don't think everybody would've complained. Can you imagine if PS5 Pro could play PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 AND PS5 games? That would've been incredible.

[@TheGX9]

here in Australia the console is going to cost $1200 now a stand cost $49.95 and a disk drive cost $160 so all up thats $1410. i got my PS5 on day one back in 2020 for $750 they now cost $799. now i converted the money of $700 US to Australian and that would bring the price to $1050.26 but they are charging us $1200. i am sorry sony its not worth it i will start saving for the PS6 god knows its going to cost an arm and a leg

[@micklucas1451]

Sigma rizz ohio ice spice what the dog doing

[@sirvern7825]

That's wild! I can understand that for you

[@jtfromsomewhere]

Someone that uses logic. Rare on social media nowa days. People jump on trends. Negativity sells. I put in atleast 1000 hours on playstation each year (that yearly stats they send out) So its a easy buy for me. They shouldve added the stand though. Simply for convenience.

[@sirvern7825]

Agreed

[@causerDAguv]

Good little Sony Pony slave

[@PortugueseBadman]

People also jump on trends of having the latest and greatest tech. Also if negativity sells then I guess my opinion isn't real even though it's how I really feel. This current thing where if you have an opposing opinion, you're just a grifter.

[@bazwatts]

PS2 AND PS3 are still the kings

[@SirClownSpoon]

a 2tb SSD is almost 200. I was also looking to get a second console, so this is great news. Gonna have to get a new monitor as well. I think the PSSR visuals are going to vary based on the development teams. FFVII Rebirth looks awesome with the atmospheric glow. Hogwarts Legacy looked super fancy with its reflections. A sizeable portion of my library are retro style games, with chunky pixels. Not expecting much out of those. It would be interesting to see a PS4 era Souls game running on PS5 pro.

[@mrcrunch8000]

Where are you buying your ssd's from? There are many really good nvme ssd's well under $150 and closer to $120. I paid $110 for my 2tb 990pro. Sales happen all the time but sub $150 ssd's are every day. lol

[@aaronsmith7143]

​@mrcrunch8000 Not with the speeds you need. Plus, this is their custom chip on the mobo. They recommend at minimum a 5500mb/s nvme. And most just say up to that get cheap. The recommended is 7200mb/s as the raw minimum speed of the internal nvme on the mobo is 5500mb/s. Also, what aren't people complaining about the 2tb series x that cost $600, without performance gains?

[@mrcrunch8000]

@@aaronsmith7143 Those exact speeds are met in the price range I mentioned. In addition to that the built in ssd doesn't even meet 7200mb/s. Google is your friend and almost across the board all ps5's show between 5500-6500mb/s. That's exactly why all tests using drives with 5500mb/s speeds perform just like the internal drive. You should look in to it a bit so you understand what is going on and understand why some drives rated even slower show zero loss in performance. It isn't all about sequential speeds either. Now with your xbox comment, people did complain and not only did they complain they didn't buy it. Let's also not forget the disc drive and the fact the series x uses a more expensive apu than the ps5. Even if the pro uses the same node the die size would be very similar to the die size of the apu in the series x.

[@SirClownSpoon]

@@mrcrunch8000 I got it at Wal*Mart for 180. WD brand, meant for PlayStation.

[@SirClownSpoon]

@@aaronsmith7143 Xbox still needs good games.

[@budgetking2591]

Its not expensive at all, the regular PS5 was also about 700-100 at launch because of the shortages, and everyone bought them for those prices.

[@TerraWare]

Agree and disagree with some things you said but the main reason why so many have a problem with it is ultimately the price and what it offers over the base PS5. I dont think the reveal with Mark Cerny was very good, they showed mostly first party games we have played and beat. FF7 Rebirth was the only game that stood out the most as looking improved. Look at how Nvidia reveal their new GPU's they show collaborations with transformative visuals or build a demo that blows your mind showing the things the faster more powerful product can do. Lastly the PC comparison. It's too damn close to building a PC that can offer similar if not better level of power with more mature features and thats a PC which can do way more than consoles can, even if you were to focus on just gaming. $1000 RTX 4070 PC. I don't blame you for wanting to buy it, I get it, I bought a 4090 day one lol. These are enthusiast level products but for consoles that can be a harder sell.

[@MarkSartor-d8q]

I hate Ponies.

[@Jpcraque]

I hate haters and trolls

[@Kensterrrrr]

Aw poor you. I'm a Pony. What are you gonna do? Cry? What?

[@TheSanctus17]

I've never spent a dime on Fortnight, and I have only purchased about 3-4 special editions in my entire life, the most expensive one being 100 dollars which came with a ton of stuff. I already have a PS5 and there is just no compelling reason to buy a PS5 pro at 700 dollars without a disc drive. It's not that I can't afford it, it is just a bad idea. I collect new consoles, and I would have purchased a PS5 pro just like I purchased a PS4 pro if the price difference were between 50-100 dollars, and it came with a disc drive. I am not buying less for more. I don't know who Sony is marketing the PS5 Pro to, but I suspect it is not life-long gaming fans who understand value propositions.

[@sirvern7825]

@@TheSanctus17 I think they are marketing to enthusiasts, people that are buying a PS5 for the first time and people that only play digital games.

[@TheSanctus17]

@@sirvern7825 You could be right, but I am very skeptical that this will be successful relative to other PlayStation models. Maybe I am wrong and there are enough people who think this is a good idea; I guess we will see. I am an enthusiast and I usually buy every console. This will be the first hard pass for me.

[@wizzgamer]

£830 for a toy is a rip off and you know it matey.

[@sirvern7825]

Haha ok

[@xOriginalGamerOG76x]

Wiz he's thick as 💩

[@bentennyson2398]

@@sirvern7825It is a ripoff get over it.

[@Jpcraque]

😂😂😂😂 Sorry my dude but consoles are not toys....

[@noppy-san]

I understand the argument that of being invested in an ecosystem, however it's just one system that doesn't rely on other things like say Apple. You do not have to sell your PlayStation, it isn't like you'd lose what games you already have. Also people who make enough money can do whatever they want with their money sure. But the value of spending just a little more on a $1000 gaming build is insanely better. Backwards compatibility is a non-issue. The game library of PC is unmatched, even more so if you count emulation for older consoles and that Sony is bringing their IPs to PC. Upgrading a single piece at a time depending on what aspect you're looking to improve or repair is a more flexible consumer friendly system. Desktops can be used for work, notes, web browsing, more powerful content creation, having an offline music/video/image/game library, way more storage space and options, multi window tasking, etc. If you argue that price is no downside for the person that can afford it then PC is the epitome of that, if you wanna spend money you can, if you don't you don't have to. There are people with $150 gtx 1060 cards made in 2016 that can run the brand new Warhammer game.

[@sq4101]

So technology is going up and prices should stay the same MR SIR fanboy.

[@kenneth2875]

I bought an LG C9 because it had 4 hdmi 2.1 ports on it. I was future proofing for the PS5 and Series X. By the way I still use this TV with no burn in.

[@sirvern7825]

@@kenneth2875 nice!

[@Bradz42092]

$1379 here in New Zealand shits crazy expensive

[@CallumAnthony-r9o]

$700 is too expensive. Sony has tried pricing like this in the past (the original PS3 model) and it did not go well for them. That old quote seems relevant here... Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[@crxmdx9199]

After the PSN outage yesterday, I WOULD NOT suggest getting a digital PS anything! Physical games may be a dying format, but it sure comes in handy when the network is down! 😉 Good video, by the way.

[@RichyLBE]

Are you for real? £830 if disc drive and vertical stand bought alongside, just for 60fps in fidelity mode, are you crazy?

[@sirvern7825]

@@RichyLBE I did say it's expensive and not for everyone. But a powerful console with 2 TB of storage isn't going to be cheap. How much would be acceptable to you?

[@andyduhh4278]

Why would u buy a vertical stand u know the console can stand and lay down on its own right?

[@RichyLBE]

@@andyduhh4278 vertical is due to space

[@RichyLBE]

@@sirvern7825 That price if disc drive included

[@sirvern7825]

@JamJam0189 yea that is crazy expensive. It's not here tho. Would you buy it for 700 I'm GBP?

[@HiCZoK]

I am getting one. I play with lg c1 oled on my desk and 4k really shows. Anything but that terrible fsr2. Difference is there. Promise of 4k60 / less modes IS that good. it's all we asked for. it's only 200$ more than base ps5. Inflation really devalued the money. 700 is not that much nowadays. Especially for americans. EU is 800 euro + 120 eu for disc drive... and I already ordered one

[@andyduhh4278]

I have the lg cx and am getting one too cheers!!!

[@toby2581]

I have never witnessed such cope in all my life.

[@wolfy.gaming3184]

You have a point, I bought PS5 on launch also, then upgraded with 1TB WD SN850 when Sony started to release the firmware to enable M.2 slot. That M.2 SSD I bought for $230. I think many other KZbinrs acknowledged that many hardcore audiences will buy the PS5 Pro no matter what, it's just the average gamers may turn off such high price. We already have a mindset that console should always be value-oriented and now the PS5 Pro seems to break that trend. This is not the 1st time Sony did this, we know the PS3 launch history but that console comes with many features unusual for a console at the time (HDMI port, bluray disc drive, multimedia card reader, bluetooth, hdd, wi-fi, etc.). I expect PS5 Pro will do just fine in terms of sales, it may not sell as well the base model but i'm not expecting it to be a failure. Spending $700 for a mid-gen refresh for slightly better tree model in Spiderman or smoother framerate in Fidelity mode is not gonna entice many gamers. The base model PS5 seems run just fine and that's what matters. Future games will surely push the PS5 Pro more, I expect games like FF16, Stellar Blade, and Black Myth Wukong will have a patch to utilize that extra horsepower for better details and framerate. For me I will wait and see what more PS5 Pro can offer in the future.

[@PortugueseBadman]

"When you really break it down, you're buying a gaming pc just with a different operating system" Actually you could buy a 700 dollar pc, and play Sony's games and have free online and even do more than gaming (work/content creation). And this is coming from a PS5 owner.

[@dizzyupthefool5180]

You're wealthy. We get it.

[@sirvern7825]

@@dizzyupthefool5180 work hard play hard!

[@Svante]

With a drive, it's almost equal to $1000, here in Sweden. So fuck no.

[@sirvern7825]

@@Svante proud to be an American! 😉

[@shaungreer3350]

£700 for anything is expensive bro idc how good the graphics are

[@NinjaFlip11]

Dreamcast Guy’s videos are so cringe I agree with your perspectives on this.

[@ErenJaegerT9]

YOU dont need RTX 4090 to play games on pc. RTX 4070 549$ can run video games better than ps5 pro in long run.

[@sirvern7825]

I was just looking at that card

[@earlyriser03]

I think what's galling for me is that Sony markets this as the premium, enthusiast option, prices it as such, yet doesn't include a full feature-set, which would include the disc drive and the vertical stand. I'd have more respect for Sony if it included the above as the ONLY Pro SKU and priced it at $749 or even $799. It would still be expensive, but that SKU would offer the full PS5 experience. This is a transparently cynical and cocky move on Sony's part.

[@sirvern7825]

@@earlyriser03 I agree with everything you just said. I think it should include a stand and a disc drive. If you watch my other videos, I am 100% into physical media. I wouldn't even mind spending $750. If all that was included.

[@earlyriser03]

@@sirvern7825 I could tell from the opening seconds of your video that your preference is physical ownership too, with those camera pans of your library. Very cool! Folks love to discount physical ownership these days while forgetting all the times access to digital purchases have been revoked due to licensing or a game being a certified flop. It's been the reality for quite a while that PC is the place to be for true flexibility, return on investment, and preservation.

[@andyduhh4278]

Physical media is dead and that stand is paper weight. The console can stand and lay down on its own…

[@earlyriser03]

@@andyduhh4278 physical media is in decline, not “dead.” Sure, I suppose the necessary vertical stand could be used as a paperweight too. The Pro will likely ship with the two pegs the Slim did to let it sit horizontally. Because neither can sit horizontally without added support. As for vertically, the system will be top heavy. The stand would provide necessary stability in its digital only form.

[@Fytyny]

Check for availability of those drives, they are already hard to buy and pro version is going to increase it even more. They are doing everything they can to add more drive-less PS5 to the market.

[@HablaConOwens]

I like your take. Nothing wrong with that upgrade

[@GalaxyFur]

*This is what I said in some other videos yesterday.* But I'll spice it up, so I'm not just copying and pasting what I said yesterday on other videos. So, I'll give what I wrote yesterday some more flair. LOL! But this is my take on the PS5 Pro pricing. The Pro is a luxury, baby. Think of it like this: the PS5 Pro is the fancy sports car you drool over, while the standard PS5 is the reliable sedan that gets you from A to B. Both will get you there, but one's gonna turn heads. For example, the same goes for the RTX 4070 and 4080 on PC. The 4070 handles games like a champ, but the 4080? That's for those extra frames and bragging rights. Oh, and potentially a new power supply - that's the price of beauty. Your trusty PS5 will keep chugging along through the next wave of games. But if you've got deep pockets and crave the absolute best graphics when GTA 6 rolls around, the PS5 Pro is your golden ticket. Sony's not new to this pricing game, either. Remember the PS3? That bad boy launched at a whopping $600, causing more uproar than the PS5 Pro ever could. It might have been the black sheep of the PlayStation family, but it still outsold the Xbox's golden child. (360) Imagine if the PS3 landed in 2024? We'd be looking at a $950 price tag today! That's $250 MORE than the PS5 Pro. Ouch! Sony's got a plan, trust me. If the PS5 Pro hits around 10 million sales by 2028, Sony's laughing all the way to the bank. They know most people will stick with the regular PS5, just like they did with the PS4. And if sales start to dip? Boom, a game bundle or a $50 price drop. Suddenly, Sony's the good guy, giving the people what they want. It's marketing magic. 😉 Oh, and one more thing... Microsoft's new Series X variant? That'll set you back $600, and it's not even a "Pro" model. Just something to chew on. 😎

[@James-u5v4y]

$699 for something that isn't even noticeable is a scam

[@luckyretrotwist]

I agree! Many are fast to drop a grand over a phone when theirs last year works just fine, but then like to complain about having options just like is happening now with the Pro. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy them.

[@nexornator]

it is expensive for what they offering, I been PS fan since the PS1 and always have been, but beeing a fan doesnt mean Im blind and dont have common sense,

[@etvow]

It seems like some of the older white men with day jobs are stating being charged $700 + $100 CD + $30 stand + tax is ok since they can afford it and it quinches their thirst for the latest tech acquisition. They just don't get the fact that Sony PS2 became the best selling console ever not by providing to the old tech enthusiasts but by providing to the mass (including kids, teenagers and parents with budget) at reasonable prices. Without the support of the mass, this console will not have the developers willingness to create like they did in the PS2 era. No mass means no revenue which means slow death of Playstation.

[@sirvern7825]

@etvow poor you. You're such a victim of the world, huh? 😂

[@etvow]

@@sirvern7825 Sony not including the CD drive was even bigger stab in the neck than the price. No disk drive now means potentially no disk drive at all for PS6, and PS6 price could be priced at $1000 and I wouldn't be surprised. People like you are the reason why we get less while paying more. People like you justify paying $70 for a game and it does not even come with a paper manual in the case. With your logic, console gaming is pretty much done and over with within the near-term because Sony can't survive simply by selling only to gaming addicts like you.

[@andyduhh4278]

This console isn’t made for the mass audience 🤦‍♂️

[@andyduhh4278]

⁠​⁠@@etvowoh no there isn’t a paper Manual how am I gonna learn how to play the game 😩 😂

[@etvow]

@@andyduhh4278 Without the revenue generating market power of the mass audience, you be playing with yourself right now so learn to respect the mass audience.

[@bigpileofpuke]

I think Sony's 9 minute pitch was handled very poorly. It should have been longer and more in depth to sell the consumer. And at the end they should have eased people's inevitable "sticker shock". Just say something like "Hey, we get it, it's expensive, but we worked very hard to wring out as much value as we could from it, we barely make a profit from it, and it's similar in power to a $2,000 gaming PC." Something like that.

[@AJJJ-co2vd]

I'm with you I game every day on my console. People are over reacting. Not to mention I can get at least $200 for my PS5 that brings the cost down to $500. I don't need a disc drive

[@darrenhines7347]

So because you want an overpriced item the rest of the vast majority are overreacting how’s it like living in your world, you gotta love Gen Zs

[@wretchedslippage3255]

I spent $3000 dollars on my GPU last year and Ill spend that again in a few months when the 5090 drops. Im really not that bothered about $700 bucks to play GTA 6 when that drops until its released on PC.

[@jangelelcangry]

2:40 Strongly disagree. Calling the PS5 a PC it's like calling the Steam Deck a console or a 2006-2021 Macbook a PC. Those devices are technologically similar, yet, they are different on what you can do legally. If you try to mod a game on PS5 you will be accused of circumventing a copyright protection mechanism or cheating, your PSN account will be banned/terminated and your console will be potentially blacklisted. You can't install/run your PC copy of NFSU2 on a PS5, access gog/zoom-platform or install Steam on a console.

[@jamesrobertson4605]

Not that expensive? Maybe for you - you live in America. We can whine all we like!

[@sirvern7825]

@@jamesrobertson4605 Whine away while I game in 4k 120. 😊

[@micklucas1451]

@@sirvern7825 what games are you going to play on ps5 pro?

[@BroomopUK]

you can buy me one then...

[@christophergibbs7487]

Im so glad you pointing this out vernon. I agree with the ps5 pro and what it offers😊

[@oxfordbambooshootify]

$700 is a lot of money considering the ps5 only has a handful of console exclusives that can benefit from its marginal (borderline noticeable) improvements. The way I see it is there's really no reason why anyone should upgrade from a base ps5. What the ps5 fan base wants is actually a controller that can last longer than a couple of months before the dreaded stick drift happens

[@nicobane]

completely agree. it is ultimately a luxury product. it will be sold out again and scalpers will sell them at a higher price even now. why? because sony knows there is an audience for it. i boaght a used ps4 pro this year and seeing all these people crying about not being able to buy the brand new thing is so silly. just wait, stop falling for fomo.

[@nexornator]

luxury product ? lol yeah right! Thats the problem is not even that, a luxury product in a video game console I would expect games at the highest visuals with ray tracing along side at least 120 fps at least a 1440p, and not to expect a far long view of a freaking tree look crispier, FUDGE THAT!! With the PS4 Pro , they lower the price PS4 normal edition and the PS4 pro was released at 399.99 and there was a heck more jump in visuals than this PS5 pro, is pretty obvious Sony is trying to recover from some retarded budget spending decisions they make some time ago so thats why they havent lower the price of the base model and added 200 dollars more for the pro. My PS5 at this moment for the first time ever I will say is Collecting dust because the retarded decisions Sony has been making lately, Im playing way more in my PC with a RTX 3070 and every Playstation exclusive is looking way superior, the perfect example of this too is that, this month FFXVI PC will be released, and I can confirm with my rtx 3070 the performance in the demo is at least 90 to 120 fps with the highest settings at 1440p, heck I can even play maybe at 4k at 60 fps , but I dont have a have 4k monitors so is a NO lol. The only thing this PS5 PRO make me do is to decide that will rather spend 800 bucks on a 4070 TI Super or even a 4080 Super by the end of the year, thank you Sony great marketing you have there. WUHAHAHAA.

[@nicobane]

@@nexornator that's great but that's on you. it is a luxury product because it's unnecesary and the only reason you'd get it is if you want it and can afford it. No one needs it. just because there's even more expensive and costly options doesn't make a video game console any less of a luxury product, same as a base ps5 and same as any other console. good for you that your standards are high tho, to most people the ps5 is more than enough let alone the pro.

[@BlueshellGamer]

I understand there is a lpt of negativity. But, the ps5 is not a HUGE leap from ps4. Apart from 4k hdr and higher refresh rates

[@sirvern7825]

@@BlueshellGamer true. And the controller and SSD

[@mikechapman3665]

This guy's logic just isn't right

[@metattron4865]

I spare no expense when it comes to gaming. However, this one is a pass. I will just put the $800 or so with Disc Drive towards a 5090 when I change over from a 4090.

[@bw8685]

Remember 3DO? The $80 Killer Instinct Cart? Videogame companies have tried this before. You're going to get a hand full of games because of development cost. No one is going to game for that amount of money.

[@Kensterrrrr]

I pre-ordered because myself and kids utilize the PS5 all the time, so its a welcome upgrade. But these sheep will buy a $1400 iphone every year. Gimme a break. Stop whining

[@jamiehav0k62]

considering you can still buy a regular ps5 cheaper and play the same games, its not that bad. xbox series s will get you the latest games even cheaper. ps1 adjusted for inflation was like $620 at launch and there was no cheaper option for the latest games back then.

[@ntme9]

There's also a premium for what will now be definitively the king of the castle as far as graphics concerned in the console arena. The same thing happens with graphics cards there's always an additional premium for the top card which is now the 4090, compared to the 4080 super for example.

[@ByteMeCompletely]

And 50% of 4090 cards will die.

[@RMax-lz4ry]

Had Sony sold the Pro with a built in disc drive they would face way less scrutiny. Buzz words like “up to” and “could do”, means you probably won’t see the benefits of the improved GPU. Btw CPU unchanged.

[@sirvern7825]

@@RMax-lz4ry I agree! And I guess we'll see!

[@Cenkolino]

I totally agree. It is not cheap but it is also not outrageously pricey. My PC cost 6000 Euros (Which is about 6300 USD) and that is actually just the PC tower itself. No monitor, peripherals etc. Comparing the PS5 Pro to that price and one realizes that it is dirt cheap. Granted, my PC is A LOT more powerful and versatile. But a person who doesnt need a PC and still wants a very high quality gaming experience? Get the PS5 Pro.

[@sonofclement]

In the UK £700 = $915, tell me that's not expensive. It's the same with euros being 800 = $883. But $700 equals £534 which is more acceptable

[@summer7603]

Sony ponies wont care even if its $1000 its why Sony does this.

[@KrazyKrzysztof]

I think a lot of the whining would be weakened if they just included a bluray drive in it for the price

[@sirvern7825]

I agree. But People would still find something to complain about