PS5 Pro (With a Little PC Shilling) - Shower Thoughts: Episode 3

That's a lot of money for a console! Sony's on a mission to empty your pockets lol. I guess all companies are, but they could at least pretend to hide it.

[@KnoxZone]

Bro outing himself as someone who takes a shower every week. Not a true gamer smh.

[@ShadowS.R.]

Bro can't reach the true gamer enlightenment like this

[@denofpigs2575]

Not smell-maxxing what a damn shame

[@weaponsci]

Ah, so that's why my smash bros skills have declined...

[@FieryAnubis]

Build a PC. Can be mid range, it's fine, no need to splurge. Get Steam. Have all your games in one place. Play with whatever controller you want. No need to go 4K if you don't wanna, just go 1080p at 60. Enjoy game sales left and right, including brand new releases sometimes. Nice and cheap. Don't have to upgrade for 5 more years (think of it the same as a console life span). PC + Nintendo is the best. These prices are straight up scams lmao

[@esuelle]

I think PCs also have the advantage of having 1440p as a more reasonable option in-between 1080p and 4k if you want something a bit better but getting a fully 4k capable machine is a bit too much for you. TV manufacturers "skipping" 1440p was detrimental to consoles, imo.

[@weaponsci]

Yeah that's what I do these days. I mainly use PC and have a Switch to play Nintendo stuff, as well as a Steam deck which makes for a good emulation machine ngl

[@EthanHaesloop]

I was gonna go to sleep but nahhh I want weapons to rag on consoles

[@Nikita_Akashya]

The PS5 Pro costs 800€ in Europe. That is more than what some people pay in rent here. This is also like half of someones paycheck. And that person still has to pay rent. This is why I think falcom is gearing it's games more towards Switch and PC now. Sony is getting too expensive for them. If we consider what Nintendo usually does, we will get the new Switch for half of what the new PS costs. So you can buy 2 Switch 2s for the price of one new Playstation. IF my theory is correct of course. But yeah, Sony. I really wonder how they plan to pay off the concord debt when nobody can afford their stuff? You can get a PC powerful enough to run most falcom games for less than the OG PS5 costs. I really wonder what Nintendo is doing with the Switch 2, but all we can do is aait and see how this goes.

[@meimmakoto3224]

If that's there idea because they know about the pro being too expensive then good on them Jesus

[@Nikita_Akashya]

@@meimmakoto3224 Well, most people said the gameplay in the Sky remake trailer looks too smooth to be on Switch. And it was part of Nintendis partner showcase. It was definitely Switch 2 footage. I am sure of that part at least. And if Nintendo manages to keep the cost down for their main target audience in families to still be able to buy it, then yes, investing in Nintendo is good for falcom. The Switch 2 should be affordable enough to sell quite well. I hope so at least. I do think the Sky Remake will come to PS5 later too maybe. But I think Switch and PC will be Falcoms main platforms going forward. Just for the fact that I think the PS 6 could end up being the same price as rent in New York City. Who has the money for that?

[@ethermelt4780]

The "holding a console for 6-7 years" argument holds no weight when you factor in that *we already have PS5s*. There's nothing exclusive to the new shit, it's just a small QoL improvement that most people won't even be able to see. I'd argue that the Pro is designed for Content Creators and Businesses (who can write-off the costs as a business expense), but Sony is shilling this to 'everyone', bad press be damned again, in order to hopefully recoup some of the losses from Concord and other big failures this year.

[@weaponsci]

Yeah I have a hunch this is "punishment" for Concord. But I rewatched the presentation video and I couldn't see a difference. I even went and pulled it up on a nearby TV (none of my monitors are 4k) and still couldn't see much of a difference. Graphical fidelity really has kind of just plateaued, which may ironically work in Nintendo's favor since one of their weaknesses compared to the other two was being behind in terms of hardware.

[@giuseppeparry1365]

I've never really been interested in any consoles except for classic consoles. Anything newer than the PS1 doesn't really hold any appeal for me. Steam already has more games than you could play in 20 lifetimes and it's only going to keep on growing. Why would I ever need to buy a console when I can do every genre from my laptop?

[@weaponsci]

I think you've just achieved the gaming equivalent of enlightenment lol

[@jmporkbob]

If you count a monitor as part of the PC price, then i guess you have to count a TV as part of the console price too eh? If we assume the default is people watching content on their phone or tablet, rather than having cable or a computer.

[@weaponsci]

Maybe. The average person is more likely to have a TV lying around than a monitor though.

[@deiruru]

PS3 was bad out of the gate, but ended up fine in the end with the slim and price cut

[@weaponsci]

Ain't no price cut for this as far as the eye can see, lol

[@TheKingofAndrosica]

I barely have games on my PS5 now. Wow bro!!

[@meimmakoto3224]

The WORST part of the PS5 pro is regardless of the extra performance some games will still only run at 30 FPS. You gonna ask us to buy your 800 dollar console to play my games and not ALL OF the prePS5 Pro games will hit that 60 fps mark? Are you joking Sony?

[@weaponsci]

Yeah it's at the discretion of developers, so if they can't be bothered having a Pro over a base model may not even matter.

[@rhaspados666]

As a early ps3 adopter this feels familiar atleast those early ps3s had bounus bawkwards compatibility

[@pyrored5212]

Even if we "don't have to buy" the 5 pro, won't the normalizing of these huge prices become everyone's problem when it comes time for the PS6? There's no way their gonna make it weaker than the 5 pro. I hope all the people saying "you don't have to buy it" enjoy paying $850 for a digital only PS6 and paying $80 for the games.

[@weaponsci]

Yeah they're most likely testing the consumer to see how much they can get away with charging, and will definitely make a note of that when the next gen comes along.

[@Ghalion666]

Stay tuned for the next episode, or else weapons will pawn his PC to try and afford the new PS5, and you dont want that, do you? I agree with most points except: The ps3 legit brought me more time and joy than the ps4. Cold steel 1 and 2 came on ps3 first, dragons crown came on ps3 first, demons' souls and dark souls, which I enjoyed day 1 btw, I didnt jump on a hype train. No Ys games... huh... Xillia, i wont list all the games. But the ps3 was by far a bigger weeb machine in terms of gaming than the ps4, weeb games that had no indication of ever coming to pc. By the time the ps4 came, weeb games started getting pc ports again, making my ps4 basically a bloodborne machine. Also, regarding pricing, the ps3 was kinda up there but it was also a blu ray player which alone made it cost effective, also, I got my PS3 for only $200 Canadian just 3 years after release (albeit on craigslist, new in the box though), just saying. Your point on reverse compatibility is kinda reversed. Its not that consoles often are not reverse compatible, its that they are NEVER forwards-compatible. As soon as the new console comes out and makes new games for it, your old console becomes a doormat to them. A similarly aged pc running a port for that game will be able to run it if it gets a pc port just fine though, it wont look at your hardware and say NO. (You did mention this but I thought the corrolation with consoles was kinda off)

[@weaponsci]

Yeah I guess I kinda said it, just wonky and out of order. Next gen consoles are not guaranteed to be backwards compatible Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo decides that for you. But I think I did say later on that you're at least given the option on PC to lower settings when you're build starts to get dated (which doesn't even happen for a while).

[@esuelle]

I'm happy I was patient and didn't get a PS5 to play FF16 and Rebirth, because now I get to play 16 on PC in a couple of days! And I'm sure Rebirth won't take too long to arrive either. Plus all the other not so exclusive titles. As for the ps5 pro, this is in no way a unique take, but even if it is technically a powerful machine for that price, it doesn't make a very good case for itself as a console. The presentation was really bad, 10 minutes of looking at tiny background details followed a by a really expensive price, lol. I'm sure it probably looks great in person but video compression also wrecks those small details. Graphics have been on a diminishing returns era for a while, and I think the ps5 pro presentation was a shining example of that. On the positive side, imo, is that even old hardware (be it pc or older consoles) can still provide fantastic gaming experiences if you don't need the shiniest stuff.

[@weaponsci]

I think something a lot of people forget too is that 700-800 is expensive for a console. A PC isn't quite held to the same standard because it's still a computer, so you're sort of paying for it's ability to do computer-related work as well as gaming.

[@yorhamixta9528]

Imagine how much the PS6 will cost 😭

[@weaponsci]

This is actually something I didn't think of while recording. Even if you have no interest in this hardware, they're 100% testing the consumer to see how much they can get away with selling the PS6 for.

[@avarisclari]

I find it funny that the PS5 Pro also just comes with a regular DualSense. You're trying to appeal to the "high end" crowd and not including the "Pro" controller? C'mon

[@RaifSeverence]

Ps1 wasn't a bad generation...like at all, so if youre willing to make an exception

[@kevinstreetgaming]

The PS4 would have been Sony's best console if it had backwards compatibility with PS3, PS2, and PS1 games. There was a renaissance of so many great jrpgs during the PS4 generation At this point, you are better off just buying a regular PS5. It's probably going to go on sale around November of December or at least be bundled with a game.

[@Ghalion666]

@@kevinstreetgaming the problem with backwards compatibility is that the hardware on the ps2 and 3 is very obscure and impractical. As soon as the ps4 came out I knew the ps5 would be backwards compatible because ps4 hardware is more sensible, which is also why btw, indie and small studios can make games on it much more easily than the ps2 and 3

[@weaponsci]

I'll probably wait until the end of the generation (or PS6 release) and buy one. And that's only gonna be for any Playstation games I may want that don't get brought to PC

[@Ghalion666]

@@weaponsci Such as... Stellar blade? For some reason that game to me looks meh actually. But maybe because I'm a freak and think Nier Automata is over-rated. I'll play Ys8 over it any day. more enemies, more interesting world, better combat (you play as 9s the most, his combat is balls), etc. Stellar blade combat looked to me too QTE heavy and such. I haven't played the game, so maybe I'm wrong, just saying. I suspect it's a good game, not a bad one, and not a great one, just a good one. and my backlog is already giant so.. ehh.. I can live without it. As for the fanservice, she is definitely an improvement over western designs, but I'd rather wait for a pc release and play as the other girl who pulls her out of that pod or whatever, that one I can goon over more, but I'm a weirdo who actually cares about a face and hair more than boobs and ass, that and I def wont spend money just for that purpose... Also, why can't we play as kos-mos in such games? modders? cmon! =P

[@rhaspados666]

I also bought a pro however by the time i sood my base model i think it cost me like 75 bucks