Avengers Endgame: a FAILED Sequel?

[@MotorHead74808]

For me, Thanos gave a humble vibe off in Infinity War. He portrayed his actions as a service such as that of a janitor: not as the cleanest or most noble deed, but as one that needed to be done. In Endgame, his goal was to control the Universe and make it his own. His backstory of the destruction his home are essentially thrown away, which make him less understandable and less relatable to his cause.

[@peraltaman]

Thanos witnessed his own death he was defeated it became personal

[@rasya_hooman5359]

Ik im late af but i think that the point seeing his death and no one appeciate his hard work and sacrifice he start losing his main goal and that the reason he lost

[@Promislandzion]

Wasn’t that like exactly what was said in the video?

[@sauravsaha7465]

​@@rasya_hooman5359 Additionally he was basically "playing" Infinity War with "God Mode" (read Infinity Gauntlet) ON. So, of course he has time to seem humble and reasonable. He KNOWS he is going to win, so he can engage people and be nice to them and he also feels quite bad that so many have to be sacrificed for his goals to succeed. But that false humility ONLY exists when he is assured of his final victory even if it leads to his death. But in Endgame he realises that his final victory can be undone and that brings his God Complex out to the forefront. Faced with the possibility to failure he is willing to throw out the board and start a new game. And now we get how Thanos is really like when he faces a true obstacle to his grand vision.

[@PerfectTroy1]

Your observation is correct. This is what happens when hack writers don't obey the Source material. The contradictory depictions occurred because the writers never understood Thanos in the first place.

[@FactualStuff]

"You gonna wash your hands?" "No, because I'm evil."

[@augingma5518]

I cracked up on that scene and even my sister when she passed by me and heard my phone. So now I'm saying that.

[@asianboi000001]

Justice league unlimited was the best

[@kaenachoo4783]

Ezekiel Chang a good old Justice League unlimited! The flash in that show is funnier than all of marvels jokes.

[@glenwaldrop8166]

If DC let Bruce Timm run their movie universe they could compete against Marvel.

[@brucedorion6642]

Predicts Covid19

[@tumulovermelho93]

The worst part of Adam Warlock not being there is that they introduced him at the end of Guardians 2 and did nothing with him since then

[@Anonymous-zd1ow]

It feels very two-faced what they did.

[@Katyamuffin]

I know! I was waiting for him to show the fuck up and he just never did. Why did they even tease him?

[@DoubleO88]

@@Katyamuffin he' appears in my fanfiction animation of endgame and infinity war if you check my channel.

[@Anthony-nv9rq]

João Paulo first off it’s called setting up for the future. There were already a ton of very powerful hero’s in infinity war and endgame. Not only that but that was something that was set up with James Gunn and so when Gunn was temporarily fired that delayed gotg3 thus the means to Adam warlock

[@gustavopereira4924]

@@Katyamuffin probably... I guess... The original plan was to introduce Adam Warlock but instead thank's to Disney they putted Captain Marvel

[@sithalchemist]

Best part of the film was when Thanos punched cap marvel so hard she left the movie till the funeral.

[@aredjayc2858]

Agreed

[@video409]

The only best part of the movie

[@KiwiSpartan01]

Punching her into the next dimension

[@andrewfrank7222]

Holy shit... You went to see an Avengers movie butt hurt about SJW wokeness?? LMAO at you... How lame...

[@mattblaster2378]

Shut up frank

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Endgame Thanos wasn’t the same because he saw himself die when he was making breakfast.

[@elysahatestostudy9364]

That truly changes a man...

[@janosd4nuke]

Yup, but also a less emotionally mature self of Thanos've seen his 'just victory' taken away from him, so he threw a tantrum. And while that's problematic on some level, this more unhinged, straight evil murderboi was a good solution to a final challange, and making sure, the original, more nuanced Thanos don't steal the show again from the Avangers as this is their finale... da Thanos event was Infinity War.

[@arkavius2272]

He just wanted to become Shrek, but instead of peasants with pitchforks, Thor with Stormbreaker knocked on his door.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@elysahatestostudy9364 haha

[@ch0getsu]

After all 2014 thanos was still a brutal murderer and not a visoner like in infinity war

[@cracklasco]

Why did it take so long to find a vid of someone agreeing with me about Endgame?

[@yoursonisold8743]

Probably because you are in the minority. What a shocking realization, am I right?

[@AVDONE]

It isnt just bc you are minority, it's something else. Since I watch the movie with my best friend and both agree on EG is basically an empty fan service product. We are still waiting more people like us raise their voices and believe its just a matter if time.

[@yoursonisold8743]

@@AVDONE You are still a minority. lol That *is* the only reason you see so few people taking that stance. It's because comparatively there are so few of them. Some people see flaws, but aren't nearly as whiny about it as you people, but that's about it. Nobody is being suppressed. If the majority thought that way about Endgame they wouldn't hold back to talk about it, this is the internet, people always have extreme opinions. Ergo summarum: You are the minority. You are alone. Live with it.

[@AVDONE]

@@yoursonisold8743 woah (Iron Man's face at a silly statement)

[@yoursonisold8743]

@@AVDONE Hahahaha. Pathetic. RDJ would be rolling his eyes at you all day long though.

[@_S0LUS_]

"We need to make a time machine!" Tony made one. "We need the stones!" Got 'em. "We need to make the gauntlet!" Done. "We need to use the gauntlet!" Also done and now everyone is back. Aaaand NOW Thanos shows up. After they've accomplished everything. Why not have Thanos chasing them in the past? With him interfering at every stone? You establish branching timelines so you don't need consistency, so why not do this?

[@kyriss12]

I kinda would have preferred they did something like the comic sequel to infinity war. The Avenegrs catch a massive wave of energy from the infinity gems that's impossible to miss. Track it to thanos' planet where the entire place is a smoldering ruin, and thanos is beat to shit with his snapping arm ripped clean off. He warns them about this crazy guy called the Magus who came out of nowhere and proceeded to wreck his shit all while ranting about unmaking reality itself. SO they gotta team up with he guy who destroyed half the universe to try and track down a guy who wants to finish the job, in a race to collect a number of mcguffins.

[@yoursonisold8743]

Because that's not what the movie was about. It was not about the ultimate confrontation and struggling with villains. It was about overcoming despair, depression and hopelessness. Thanos already won. They lost the conflict. Then they killed Thanos and accomplished nothing. By getting back together and fixing the world they defeated their "enemy", which is their own failure.

[@_S0LUS_]

@Josh Adcock EXACTLY

[@OrangeUtan1]

Why would Thor let him live? That doesn't seem very likely

[@journey95far49]

Agree, the movie had no tension until the last battle

[@nt9382]

People called me a madman for preferring IW to EG. Reality is often disappointing.

[@truthbetold9092]

Because of what the critics and Rotten Tomatoes say. It's perfectly okay to have your own opinion. I award you. Sheep, amirite?

[@Drriven]

I agree . Infinity War is far better than Endgame. I have watched IW 15 plus times and Endgame just once , wouldn't wanna watch again.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

You're not alone

[@heftymagic4814]

@@truthbetold9092 its a thanos quote

[@heftymagic4814]

@@defencebangladesh4068 its a thanos quote

[@carwyn3691]

Imagine if in LOTR after throwing the ring in the volcano they had to spend another 100 pages walking back to the Shire and bitchslapping a Saruman who just came up out of nowhere. Oh... nevermind

[@christianwassenius3201]

I came this far into the video and thought the exact same thing

[@riograndedosulball248]

Yet it is still a perfect ending for the trilogy

[@afarce4172]

It did actually make sense for the events in the books, but yeah, even though it made sense for the events in the world, for a story it was exceptionally odd.

[@DarkAngelEU]

@@afarce4172 It's not odd to have an aftermath. Hollywood has turned movies into the stale Happily Ever Afters PSA pitches in this video. End Game basically is an aftermath movie to Infinity War, trying to tie the loose ends in and they did it quite phenomenally.

[@sqwirl31trkpny94]

Ehhhh, it's more like if they reach the volcano and throw it in, but if they don't beat him he's gonna get the ring back and with even more power

[@IronDragon-2143]

I'd choose Endgame over Game of Thrones season 8 any day of the week.

[@syrozzz]

I'd choose Suicide Squad over Game of Thrones season 8 any day of the week.

[@andrewfrank7222]

Not even in the same conversation. How dare you

[@mikejubb1353]

That is like saying i would rather chop my right hand of instead of my left. You may use your right hand for more things LOL but both are really shit options

[@glenwaldrop8166]

8 days a week...

[@jeweerly2319]

@@glenwaldrop8166 that, is the joke

[@robertb7293]

I want whatever youtubes subtitles are smoking; "It's warm here." "What's warm here?" "A dominion of death and despair. Where that house murdered my sister."

[@bravobird9435]

*Fate apocrypha intensifies*

[@tastyloaf5487]

My favourite auto-sub snafu was in a Sargon video: > *Sargon:* _"You just need a big cuddle, don't you dear?"_ > *Auto-Sub:* _"You just need a big cock-pumping, dear."_ Holy crap, I wish I could remember the video.

[@RitsuCurisu]

@@tastyloaf5487 Wait, is there a difference? Oh no...

[@tngtrivedi]

That house murdered my sister

[@defencebangladesh4068]

Oops

[@dannyd464]

The infinity War was the last one for me that's how my Marvel ended. Also they went after Back to the Future trilogy not once but twice to justify their own story and that's unforgivable.

[@nateofthesouth]

Same. Infinity War was a good final movie.

[@WilliamsWrestlin]

@@nateofthesouth yep

[@nicosmind3]

I liked the Hulk "polite conversation" stone winning. He got knocked out of his body and had to use intelligence and passion to win. Though it would have worked better as a punchline if we seen everyone else struggling more. No one expects the Hulk to use his brain

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

I just like the concept of a polite Hulk... It's like someone presenting you dry water, quite mind blowing.

[@newfate26]

I liked the idea of it, but it doesnt work with THIS Hulk. If we'd had say Savage Hulk or one of the similar variants then it could've played off of the Banner/Hulk dynamic.

[@samdurfee6093]

The real problem with Hulk is not that he's Professor Hulk now, it's thrice fold, 1 we didn't see that events that lead up to this change only the setup in Infinity War, 2 Hulk needed the Soul Stone Scene where he's see Natasha, so that they'd get some kind of closure, 3 hulk didn't get to fight Thanos one last time, Hell Infinity War started with their fight, and if Hulk had been the last wall between Thanos and Stark it would have been awesome.

[@syrozzz]

​@@samdurfee6093 Agree. Hulk's character arc was a total waste. Why on earth his transformation into professor Hulk was offscreen? That has been built up during several movies and then out of nowhere 'oh we just had to talk, don't bother'. Overall the character felt totally underused. He had to be the one that beat up thanos at the end, he needed his redemption too. But Captain Blunt Marvel oddly took his place there, despite having no involvement in the whole avenger story.

[@ProxyDoug]

@@samdurfee6093 Imagine if Hulk was the one to go with Nat instead of Hawkeye and he realized he just can't kill himself to give her the stone.

[@gerardmourits8709]

The soulgem gamora was in was destroyed by thanos at the start of the movie. The soulgem Hawkeye brought back only had Natasha's soul in it.

[@bulfam5618]

They probably could have bullshit explained it as the infinity stones can't be destroys but their physicality has changed and they're just atoms. And Gamora still existed because the stones are theoretically still there. But it might take centuries for the stones to reform.

[@gerardmourits8709]

@@bulfam5618 Still a different timeline the gem was collected before gamora's soul was sacrificed

[@barbarianjk2355]

Maybe they could have made it that the stones are connected through different timelines.

[@magicznygosc9718]

Right. Then, base on the little Gamora, we could have maybe not little Natasha?

[@alfiemoloney1163]

But now both souls are gone as theatre soul gem was brought back thus Natasha's soul was in the gem before gamora and since it was the same gem both are now gone

[@WillRock07]

I think it's quite interesting because you can tell that they wrote Infinity War with such a clear vision but didn't really have much of a clue what would happen after it. I feel like they had this inspiration to write an amazing story where "The Bad Guy Wins" but after he does, they looked at it and probably tossed up about 10 million ideas of how to conclude the saga in a way that ties up everything in a neat little bow - and while I think they DID succeed in a sense, you can tell that Endgame was much much more difficult for them to write because they didn't really know how to conclude the story.

[@Jdudec367]

No they did have a clue of what would happen after it, they filmed both films back to back after all. I doubt that is what happened, give some more credit to the Russo Brothers here, and they did know how to conclude the story.

[@newrenaissance]

So THAT’S why you needed « it’s y’a boy Adam »

[@csfelfoldi]

"Hey guy's what do we do with Strange? He can kinda one shot Thanos's whole army." "Uhm, let him hold some water." "Whaaaa???!!! okay..."

[@cygnusprime6728]

Oh wow i completely forgot about that weird scene. Strange was holding his own against thanos with 5 stones but then they completely neglected him. Weird.

[@Pauline__]

Cygnus Prime *4 stones

[@cygnusprime6728]

@@Pauline__ what difference does it make? The point is it was lazy writing to get strange out of there since he could have taken care of a regular thanos with low difficulty, especially if he was assisted by cap Thor and stark.

[@Pauline__]

@@cygnusprime6728 Exactly. Most of those plot holes could've been avoided if they'd just kept Thanos insanely strong like he's in the comics

[@cygnusprime6728]

@@Pauline__ it was like they weren't 100% sure if they actually wanted to use him despite already appearing in several films and being integral to the plot. Reminds me of how galactus "appeared" in the fantastic four movie and got off screened by the surfer. Marvel Studios chickens out with powerful characters.

[@GeminiHiro009]

Omg. At 15:05 when you're talking about Thor making the SNAP. I felt more tension listening to you than I did watching the entire movie.

[@josephercanbrack8393]

I've honestly had tons of problems with this film ever since I saw it, and I've been disturbed that it hasn't been criticized as much as it should have.

[@andrewfrank7222]

And here is a post without any criticism.... Irony much?

[@michaelnoergaard922]

agree

[@saltyk9869]

I feel like people will start to criticize Endgame in the future. Probably not a lot, as it is still a decent film, but it certainly pales in comparison to Infinity War. Alternatively, people will forget Endgame even exists, but still praise Infinity War.

[@randomdude189]

Joseph Ercanbrack the world is falling into a dark spot where it’s easy and comfortable but it’s apathy and indifference

[@zachtemoro2116]

The problem with Endgame is that I cannot really critique because its not a movie in a general sense. Its fan service, and thats not the same as saying it doesn’t have plot holes. We knew they were gonna come back, it was just a matter of how, with time travel being the most likely of the scenarios. After the first 30 minutes, its just fan service, until the last 30 minutes which is supposed to be the end of the Infinity saga. Its a fun time because its fan service, its not a stand a lone movie like the majority of the MCU movies. Its all the movies wrapped in one, and its supposed to be a live letter to MCU fans. I personally just can’t look at this movie though and judge it for the plot holes that are there for that reason. Its supposed to be stupid and fun

[@manguy01]

This is also why they cut "The Scouring of the Shire" from Lord of the Rings.

[@turtleanton6539]

Goodchoiche

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

For good reason wish they went through with that on the Hobbit trilogy.

[@biffodio]

There's a half-hour of boredom after the Ring is destroyed. That was a bad example for the argument he's making.

[@blackknight4152]

@@biffodio Not at all, you didnt get the point. After the destruction of the ring there is no more conflicts that drive the story. its just a long good bye, similar to the funeral in endgame. The difference is that The climax fight happens at the same time as the emotional moment, while in end game we get the climax fight after the point of our emotional investment is over. the funeral its fine, cap fixing all the changes and coming back is fine, not main plot of the movie, just the ending, If they would have added "the scouring of the shire" then lotr would have been a clone of end game structure wise, a new conflict appears after the main goal of the film is over, the emotional investment is off, yeah our heroes might fight one last time, but the world is no longer in danger, there is no dark lord, just a losser trying to get back at the hobbits, same with Thanos at Endgame, everyone comes back and the stakes are artificially introduced with so many coincidences that make it a thing, ( Hulk using the gauntlet just before thanos arrives). Point being the main plot of the movie, is over before the actual plot ends, which is a waste of viewer emotional investment, partly regained with Stark last move, but forced on the overall structure of the film.

[@Sefoskiii]

biffodio You did not understand his point at all. The 30 minutes after the Ring is destroyed are just goodbyes. There’s no conflict. And after a nine hour epic, it’s important to say goodbye to the characters but also, show the effects that the journey had on the protagonists. Something more films ought to do. To call it boring shows that you weren’t that invested in the films to begin with. I think it’s a perfect conclusion

[@CabezasDePescado]

When you start talking about the time travel scene, you are skipping a lot of issues that were before in the movie...

[@3Andzia3]

"something about it just didn't clicked the way Infinity War did".... ....How are you reading my mind and please stop that.

[@bipstymcbipste5641]

Right? it's almost creepy or maybe great minds think alike

[@Dyndase-29]

Completely agree. Thanos is the best Villian on MCU, and they replaced him a boring Thanos.

[@charismajayamandalap6650]

IW is about thanos, endgame is about avengers..thats one thing u missed

[@davidbujna8480]

@PrexorAMVs No offense, but you can tell at a single glance the difference between the two Thanos(es?). One learned from his mistakes and made the job personal and won, one got cocky, because his future did it, and had his minions do everything until he was personally confronted.

[@hulkinglasses7174]

because they changed Thanos from being the main character to another CGI monster they had to beat. Defeating Thanos wasn't the goal of Endgame. That entire fight was just fan service since Thanos had no reason to show up

[@davidbujna8480]

@@hulkinglasses7174 Couldn't say it better. Endgame Thanos was there just so we could finally get the Assemble line alongside portals.

[@hulkinglasses7174]

@@davidbujna8480 Yeah Thanos's journey was already over but the Endgame Thanos just started his so he's gonna be more rash cocky. I mean everyone who could've stopped him was already dead (Odin, Ego, Ancient One) he had to wait for all of them to die before collecting the rest. Personally I felt more emotionally attached to Endgame than Infinity War as we saw the complete story of some of the heroes and was an emotional journey. And we had more time to get to know the characters and felt more sympathy over the course of 10 years rather than Thanos where we don't really know what he's like outside Infinity War.

[@wilburforce8046]

Honestly I think the only version that would have worked would have been some more conflict before the snap, then what we get. Because having our heroes snap and win in all ways feels kinda like a cheese move. We needed the whole MCU vs Thanos. (And that was likely the original idea)

[@tizyman7120]

There was no Happy ending

[@ryanreiniche3969]

Yeah tony died, Natasha died, Steve is old and will die soon, it’s not very happy. Also, vision never came back, nor did loki, or heimdall

[@ryanreiniche3969]

@1Yan00 to be fair this was before wandavision and loki

[@PrimalDragon1740]

Yeah. I feel like Tony should have snapped everyone back as he snapped away Thanos and his army

[@InfernosReaper]

@@PrimalDragon1740 that would've been a pretty sweet scene. various people start appearing as the troops of thanos disappear, giving him taste of true defeat as the heroes finally triumph

[@legionbeast]

To me, it felt conclusive when Thanos snapped and ended everyone in Infinity war. It felt like a proper mournful goodbye and a way to clear the cast so that new blood could step in and take on the mantles. Ya know, like they ended up doing by the end of this film anyway?

[@mrharold5455]

They are literally called the Avengers. They avenge people. In Avengers 1, Tony even says "if we cant save the world, you can be dam sure we'll avenge it".

[@dinochookproductions5190]

yeah good idea except in the snap the OG cast remained whilst the majority of the newcomers died.

[@tizyman7120]

And then they could give a goodbye to Iron Man with an Iron Man 4 where he retired and had Morgan at the end

[@tizyman7120]

@@dinochookproductions5190 Ending don't mean death you dirty idiots

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

@@tizyman7120 but redemption does most of the time, iron man started out as a villian until his own weapons nearly killed him, it made him good, and it took several films for death to come for him again. All of his problems are made by him, even thanos since if loki ruled earth then earth would just be a territory of thanos' army before stark destroyed that army, either way is bade since dusting or invasion but both are stopped by stark and result in his suffering, first ptsd and finally self sacrife.

[@zoltanrostas-secola]

Honestly, what ruined Thanos's character for me was his ridiculous change in motive. I know he was full of vengeance for his plan not going his way but "I will shred this universe down to it's last atom" seemed so cliche and tacked on that it took away all the depth and buildup he had in Infinity war and made him look like a catchphrase spouting one dimensional Saturday morning cartoon villain, especially since he saw himself as his own hero in Infinity War weighed with the burden of feeling like the sole being capable of truly saving the universe. Perhaps a better motive of vengeance using the stones could have been snapping away all resources instead. That would create parallels with what happened to his own home planet on Titan as well as force people to see his worldview on what's best for the universe once they're dying and desperate. That would've still created tension and be consistent with his own lifelong goal. Just my two cents.

[@globalistgamer6418]

The most predominant part of his character development in IW - the experience of sacrificing Gamora - hadn't occurred for the 2014 Thanos, and IIRC the film is cut as if he wasn't able to discover it by the time the final battle begins (he doesn't treat Gamora with the expectation of upcoming betrayal that he does with regards to Nebula, even though this would make more sense if he had fully analyzed Nebula's data). His tone was already noticeably different at the beginning of IW compared to its end. Endgame takes the earlier Thanos, and instead gives him the opposite experience of an vicarious unearned success that he seems to be being cheated out of, plus the information to see that people didn't ultimately accept his 'salvation' of them in the way he had previously expected. I think this situation makes his differing characterization in Endgame quite plausible in the context of the story, even if he isn't as interesting a character in his own right, or perhaps as satisfying an opponent for the characters hurt in IW to face off against.

[@someanimal3506]

This is the ONLY problem I have with this movie. I thought this video was about that, but tbh, the alternate ending he described sucked.

[@photonalchemist6574]

Remember this is a different thanos who hasn't experienced the grief of losing gamera.

[@thanos7459]

they fucked up his plan

[@medalgear654]

Honestly killing thanos in the first hour of the movie for shock value was a big mistake. U get rid of the big baddie like he was nothing only to real replace him with younger and out of character version of himself? Why strip him of all the character development and menacingly interactions from infinity war. It just doesn’t feel personal anymore and it would. Make more sense for him to be angry and want to change his plans but they should’ve kept him alive for the final battle and not use any armies but his full strength and powers showing that not a single avenger or character is capable of Thanos alone. Having characters like scarlet witch captain marvel and a few normal women overpower him just elongates thanos as a threat.

[@joshuafogg6600]

And they actually set up Adam in a post-credits scene - ironically a better buildup than the entirety of Captain Marvel.

[@JohnMiller-fq5yf]

i hate time travel. i can see your points and agree on them. but, when ever i think of endgame, the time travel just keeps coming to the front and reminds me of how much i hate that type of writing. great video.

[@kyriss12]

@Repo man Or they could do like the comics and have the Magus take the infinity gauntlet from thanos. So you have a situation where the Avengers have to work with the guy who destroyed half the galaxy, to stop a guy who want to finish the job, in a massive race to collect a bunch of extremely powerful maguffins.

[@toufiq309]

@Repo man one thing with that Thor time travel thing is he took his hammer from that timeline but he fucked that timeline completely because pretty sure Thor on that timeline needed that hammer on 2nd movie.

[@s66s46]

Time travel works great in movies like xmen days of future past

[@cd8012]

@@toufiq309 cap returned the hammer at the end

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

Oh, yeah. I forgot that Hawkeye never canceled his wife's phone plan and kept her phone charged for 5 years. I don't really care about things like that. It was a quick way to tell the audience that the snapped people were re-snapped back into existence. Still funny to think about, though.

[@globalistgamer6418]

Most likely her phone was considered part of her for the snap (snapped characters seem to disappear and reappear with clothing and small pocketed items that aren't held). The call itself is a bit shakier but she was plausibly in close proximity to wi-fi access at the point where she reappeared (slightly outside their house).

[@histguy101]

Or she called from the _*HOUSE PHONE*_!

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

@@histguy101 Nope! At 6:34 it says mobile. Plus, even if that wasn't the case, it'd be funny that Hawkeye has been keeping the house phone paid for while he's running around the world killing Yakuza. Either way, it's not a big deal and just kind of amusing to think about. What's weird is that I didn't get a notification for your comment. The video just popped up again in my recommends and I decided to watch it again. Then I saw my my original comment which you replied to two days ago. I'm betting that's the least interesting thing you've heard all day.

[@histguy101]

@@Off-Brand_Devin Maybe he kept the phone active, and hired a voice actor to occasionally call him from his wife's phone and pretend to be her, and leave him messages. "Hi honey. I just got home from getting the groceries. The kids are watching a movie. Be careful out there saving the world. love ya" Hawkeye- This is when I do my crying

[@Off-Brand_Devin]

@@histguy101 I like that. If they make a Hawkeye movie, that needs to be part of it.

[@yogadan3924]

The worst part was how they handled Hulk's MAJOR character change off-screen and with a throwaway line...

[@dominicansoulsbourne5456]

Iron man arc was good. What they did Thor and Hulk was awful. Time travel gimmick also sucked.

[@TimothyJ.Lochhead]

Yes. Iron Man arc was brilliant and best part. It was a huge 3 hour epic capping off the 11 years of "phase IV" - so of course there was a lot of good, AND they played off of a lot of emotions - so people get emotionally attached and won't look at critically or logically. Outside of Iron Man and some moments here and there, they didn't have to poop on certain characters or create the inconsistencies within this story and the universe they created. Also the $2.8B mark (oh what a success) covers all the missteps when they could have easily smashed past 3B. That's also why so many people like PSA here only wanted to see once; not so much because it's over, but because deep down, call it a gut feeling or subconscious level, one really knows there's inconsistencies and let-downs but don't want to notice it or face them. The more you see it, the more you notice (well, potentially if you're open to it and the 'criticisms').

[@trevorphilips9065]

@Christian Tompkins But that was the exact same arc in Ragnarok

[@trevorphilips9065]

@Christian Tompkins and then he gets his hammer again completely ignoring Odin

[@thejet7089]

@Christian Tompkins Endgame was supposed to be the be all end all to major characters and they ended up turning Thor into a joke. his arc not being finished won't save THIS film from turning the guy into a joke.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@Christian Tompkins But he still took his hammer for no reason other than the Russos wanting Cap to shine

[@mikhailbychkov5042]

PSA Sitch: *criticises Endgame* The internet : *So you have chosen... death*

[@andrewfrank7222]

If he made rational arguments... His dishonesty started in the first minute and lasted until I could not stomach the nonsense... Being a contrarian on KZbin with bad rationale... Yawn...….

[@forestelfranger]

@@andrewfrank7222 Yet you point out no flaw in their reasoning or logic. Just go believe me it's true.

[@xVallan]

@@forestelfranger yeah that dude has not exactly shown himself to be good in an argument, better not to pay much attention to what he says if you ask me.

[@daytonaofcv6856]

I don't understand why people love endgame sooo much. It just wasn't that good, the fanboys brains glitched out and to them it is. Like flat earther level mental gymnastics. Whenever I try to talk about its shortcomings people just glitch out and can't handle it.

[@NPC-vq3cl]

reddit moment

[@themk4982]

Personally I don’t mind that Act 2 had little conflict, it was still fun to watch and you got to see some of the characters evolve. I think the problem was that the Thanos thing wasn’t connected. Nebula could’ve just like, not got caught. If the issue was that the time-travel didn’t work the way it should’ve and that their mission had to change in some way from that point it could’ve been perfect. Instead they needed a big battle.

[@DongusMcBongus]

I just couldn’t get into Endgame. They had Dr. Weird who could have killed Thanos with his sentient corn in like 30 seconds. It was even revealed in deleted scenes there was an alternate ending. Thanos: I am inevitable. DW: And I...... HAVE MORE CORN.

[@trumpwonhereistheevidenced4390]

IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS LAST TIME, ISN'T IT, STEVE-OS?!

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

"I am inevitable." is just a Matrix rip-off... with less sense

[@umamagei]

@@Rafael-rn6hn how, thanos won once before and he knew that, and then he thought he'd win again, makes perfect sense, what should he have said instead? "Teehee, now imma snap ya ;)"

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

​@@umamagei Thanos says that line first after bragging he destroyed the stones with the stones (lol). Which soon after they go ahead and undo. Very evitable. The reason Thanos wins in IW is because the Avengers were not working together. Very evitable. There were so many close calls and honestly dumb luck involved it all rings very hollow. There is no actual inevitability here. So, regarding your argument, I'm not criticizing the use of the quote from the perspective of Thanos using a fancy word because he wants to sound cool. I'm criticizing it from the perspective of the writers using a fancy word because they want their script to sound cool, but actually lack the substance to make it have a deeper meaning. Contrast this to Smith's reason of using this quote, which admittedly isn't so great in that movie, but it at least hints at themes of premeditation, repeating cycles, etc. At the very least it calls back to the idea that Smith is tied to Neo, so Neo (the hero's) existence demands the existence of Smith as a sort of cosmic counterweight. Again, I'm not about to get into an deep argument about this, but the point is made. tl;dr It's about the deeper thematic resonance and allegory rather than "does this throwaway line meet the bare minimum threshold of acceptability".

[@0gsrV]

kingdancekiller here comes nova giving him the nova force making his corn 10x stronger

[@kektuss]

Normal Person: Thanos Sitch: FAYNOS

[@trumpwonhereistheevidenced4390]

To be fair, it's spelly "thay-nos". If they wanted "thannos" they should've spelled it correctly

[@JF-Sebastian]

It isn't spelt "Thaynos" though is it?

[@fitzhugh7463]

JF Sebastian like how drano isn’t spelled “drayno”

[@robobrain10000]

We needed more stone action. Thanos needed to play with the stones more to make Endgame as good as IW.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

The fight on Titan is detailed to perfection with the stones. Completely thrown away in Endgame.

[@tizyman7120]

To make it good they shouldn't have killed off Iron Man, make Fat Thor or Professor Hulk

[@kwanelesosibo3293]

A simple man .

[@J64866]

That and Base Thanos shouldn't of been so nerfed.

[@abates17]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Repeating the same fight in Endgame would have been boring. Instead they tried something new.

[@ADoughnutYay]

Nobody: PSA Sitch: Thane-ohs

[@MercurialStatic]

Probably realized his mistake during edit and was like ‘fuck it’

[@chiffmonkey]

Red Skull does it too.

[@cattrucker8257]

@@chiffmonkey Sitch is Red Skull confirmed

[@tshawtshi3040]

That's what I was saying. Every body was shutting me down

[@Santoryu90]

Different opinions

[@TheEffectOfMass]

The lack of threat in time travel is an issue, so are the other points made. My biggest issue is that they kill Thanos in the beginning. Having a past Thanos show up just felt like having cake and eating it too. It felt like a hollow victory. And add the fact that they used the stone already really just deflates the tension. Additionally, I think they really weakened Thor too. In Ragnarok he was unstoppable. Then in Infiity War they weakened him, until he got Storm Bringer. To which he was tearing up ships (Just like Captain Marvel did!!!). Not only does he have 1 hammer, but he has 2 and he is still a chump. What the heck!

[@Astraeus..]

In Ragnarok he was unstoppable.... Sure. Except the part where his big sis crushed his hammer and he ran away. And then the part where a drunk Valkyrie managed to knock him out and capture him. Or the part where somehow electric shocks actually incapacitate him several times. And then the part where he decides on round 2 with big sis and she rips his fu@$ing eye out. And of course the only reason Hela doesn't kill him is because Loki revives Surtur who then destroys Asgard, which kills Hela because her power/life is directly tied to the planet... But yea, other than all that he was 100% unstoppable.....

[@houseofmatrix6174]

I agree it made Thanos pointless

[@abdullahx4908]

My issue with past Thanos was his lack of nuance

[@InfernosReaper]

@@Astraeus.. to be real, it bugged me how Thor had the spear of Odin and it was basically useless then thrown away. apparently, throwaway artifact weapons seems to be a signature of a certain director...

[@superior2096]

I felt it had some problems not just time traveling, I felt like they serewed up Hulk and Thor's characters... It lacks any real conquences in the end besides Cap, Tony and Widow.

[@triplehelix3207]

Hulk should have been the one beating the shit out of Thanos and then getting power punched away instead of captain marvel

[@andrewfrank7222]

"It lacks any real conquences in the end besides Cap, Tony and Widow." … And Gamora... And Thor's mental state... But you are right, none...

[@more-reasons6655]

22nd movie in and has the word END in the title and yet you're pissed off that there's no lasting consequences?

[@Jdudec367]

time travel made sense for the most part though and is fine, Hulk's character is fine too. Nah it had real consequences.

[@forestelfranger]

@@andrewfrank7222 That what we call a strawman. the op never said there was no consequences. They clearly pointed out a few. Their main issue was messing up characters and not enough consequences overall, it having two few. Not that there wasn't any. They also play up Thor as a gag.

[@sseltrek1a2b]

so right- i have no desire to see, "Endgame" again....was pretty disappointed...not anywhere near as good as, "Infinity War"...

[@zacariasnelson5753]

I knew thanos was different in Endgame. Ppl trying to say "it's just cuz he isn't the protagonist anymore" naaah man. It's cuz he was big cgi bad guy now

[@fightingmedialounge519]

So basically this comment

[@larryfoulkeofficial8609]

@Erik Lerström its almost like you guys want to find a reason to complain about something despite the fact that there is an reasonable explanation for it.

[@larryfoulkeofficial8609]

@Erik Lerström idk you tell me

[@larryfoulkeofficial8609]

@Erik Lerström yeah cuz you were talking about yourself in said question

[@larryfoulkeofficial8609]

@Erik Lerström and yet people who like the movie are idiots for not agreeing with you?

[@incoggnito1667]

So is Infinity War basically the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Avengers franchise now?

[@Raul_Menendez]

Infinity War is more like Empire Strikes Back. While Endgame is Return Of The Jedi. Thats how I see it. But Return Of The Jedi have a better finalle battle.

[@hanburgundy4317]

Nah - Return of the Jedi is a great movie. Endgame is trash.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Return of the Jedi is a great movie, Engdame isn't it

[@unhandmeprrriest4601]

All throne room scenes between Luke, Vader and The Emperor were some of the best cinema I’d ever scene - particularly the final part of the fight and Luke resisting the temptation of the dark side.

[@Darth_Bateman]

The whole reason this movie fell flat compared to infinity war was that the antagonist was gone for the first 3/4th's of the movie and the Avengers got the stones unchallenged. They really should have had boss fights in those quests. Like having Ebony maw go after one group. Proxima Midnight go after the other. Cull Obsidian go after the next and the big guy go after another with Gamora and Nebula chasing one more. The final battle was pretty good, but the fact that we had to sit through a 2 hour and 30 minute slog with no Thanos is kind of lame. It's also pretty shitty how they make Thanos go from layered 3-dimensional bastard who can be understood with and seen as a broken man with PTSD and a warped view of reality at best or seen as a wise man who can be agreed with at worse. Now he just devolved to Doomsday villain who deserves to get dusted.

[@Jdudec367]

well at that point he wasn't dumb he just knew his OLD plan was pointless plus the whole second arc thanos still appeared [just not to the heroes] it was slowly building up for him to appear

[@trevorphilips9065]

We should have had Ultron send 5 Ultron bots to each location make him the villain

[@felynecomrade]

Cull Obsidian is the big guy. You must mean Corvus Glaive.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

You can't compare the infinity war stupid CGI war scenes to LoTR. Peter Jackson worked very hard to make sure the audience doesn't lose track of the people in his massive scenes, and he succeeded. Edit: I stopped the video and made this comment just before Sitch said he was going to talk about it. Great minds think alike.

[@glitchyx6995]

Imagine being a VFX worker, working for Infinity War, doing your best to make good CGI scenes, working extremely hard, only to have some random kid on the internet call your hard work "stupid CGI war scenes"

[@soraceant]

@@glitchyx6995 maybe do a better job then. the war fight was garbage.

[@rafaeldeleon225]

Peter Jackson's greatest work, wasted on Endgame football match.

[@glitchyx6995]

@@soraceant Okay, sure, mind giving a reason then?

[@soraceant]

@@glitchyx6995 because all individual skirmishes are won too easily. You see scrub wakandans running with spears and instakilling alien creatures. That's unrealistic and dumb. No coordination whatsoever and hero's like antman causing what looks like massive casualties on both sides.

[@alexeratops]

17:35 It was never once confirmed that this was the "soul world" or even the soul stone. It was just a bizarre vision that Thanos had, facing true remorse for what he'd done. this whole soul world thing was a fan headcanon that just became so common that people pretended it was true with no actual evidence besides "the sky there is orange"

[@CreamOMeme]

PSA Snitch: How lame would it be if after Frodo destroyed the ring there was another, smaller battle? LotR book readers: 😀😄😅

[@hi-cz8zd]

Highlord Ynot Tom didn’t impact the story that much.

[@ryanswafford3681]

Old timeline Thanos when he starts to get a whiff of what the Avengers are trying to do, doesn't know if he can trust what he's seeing. Has Nebs steal some of their time travel tech, then he travels to the only person he can trust... himself. He travels to OUR Thanos, post snap, moments before the Avengers show up to kill him. Old timeline Thanos fills in 'original' Thanos (the one from Infinity War) and he sees that the crazy bastards might actually succeed in UNDOING his magnum opus. He coldly slays himself, steals the time travel suit off his own fresh corpse, then travels back to thwart our heroes. So we get a final fight against *OUR* Thanos, not Darth Maul action figure past timeline Thanos. It would REALLY give the "I am inevitable" line some gravitas.

[@robobrain10000]

But, our Thanos was on the brink of death before the Avengers showed up. How would he even be able to take out a younger Thanos that is much stronger.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@robobrain10000 Because he knows himself he's fighting styles

[@extrident7950]

Bro... YES! That isn't the best way to do it, but it would be way better than what we got. I didn't want to watch some bootleg Thanos who had no connection to any of the characters because he wasn't there for Infinity War.

[@nooby165]

That would break the rules of you cannot chsnge the past...wait...except if he did kill his future self and stopped the avengers only to return AS damadged as we saw him in that scene KNOWING he would die and after having created a closed time loop where he wins and the movie ends with him saying I am ineviteble and then dying... I would hate and love that XD

[@davidbujna8480]

@@trevorphilips9065 Yeah, same goes for the younger version.....so besides this irrelevant point, younger Thanos would win.

[@carlosdiaz7573]

After almost 2 years I can say that Endgame was overrated as hell

[@yourfatboy5359]

True

[@nicolasbolas2247]

I still can't remember a single iconic scene outside the final battle

[@abates17]

@@nicolasbolas2247 Cap fighting Cap. Tony meeting his dad. Thor saying goodbye to his mom. Hulk meeting the Ancient One. And on and on and on.

[@nicolasbolas2247]

@@abates17 mediocre moments at best

[@abates17]

@@nicolasbolas2247 Sorry man, those are all iconic scenes. For reference, just check the internet. Sorry you don’t have a great memory.

[@BAGELMENSK]

A: *No one wanted to spend 7 years making a movie for getting each stone.*

[@ch0getsu]

Yess

[@wifine1951]

But could’ve been something. A threat just rising and rising and the audience knows what coming, but not the characters. I’d actually prefer that

[@BlueKingNL]

@@wifine1951 That's... what happened

[@daedricknight1407]

@@BlueKingNL I think the point was that it could've been better if there was a movie dedicated to the retrieval for each stone. I think the Soul Stone would be a major drag but I'd love to see a movie between Tony and his father.

[@quintustheophilus9550]

Boring Thanos = Thonos

[@GinHindew110]

How to solve Endgame Thanos: give him a backstory of him being a regular power hungry badass who wanted to rule the universe with his iron fist, but due to some revelation became concerned about the fate of the universe and changed his ways, then have the avengers face the old warlord Thanos who discovered them because their time traveling shenanigans disrupted whatever powers of the universe he was watching at the moment Then this Thanos would want to use the stones to bring his reign of terror over the universe

[@dunkdon158]

While I agree it would be more dramatic if they didn’t finish making the glove and snapping everyone back until thanos arrived, they needed to bring back everyone to have the huge satisfying return to battle with all of the superheroes

[@ThomasJames69420]

It didn't land as hard because time travel was such a cop out. Just felt lazy

[@glitchyx6995]

Haha, definitely not. It sounds dumb on paper, but the execution was actually amazing. Especially a good way for fan service, to look back on older movies.

[@glitchyx6995]

@dimitris davos No, they couldn't repeat it over and over again. They only had 1 pym particle each, and they NEEDED the pym particles to time travel.

[@cooljim1376]

@@glitchyx6995 Considering GoTG 2 was building up to Adam Warlock and the fact that Gamora was in the soul stone, this suggests that End Game was going to have a conclusion loyal to the comics, but they copped out with time travel. Granted it would be cheap without a setup for Adam, but a much better character than Captain Cunt and a much more interesting way to end the series than give the heroes everything they need at the beginning of the film. Thanos? Dead. Need time travel? Done. Get the stones? Already have 'em all no problem. Need a gauntlet? Finished. Reverse snap? Gotcha covered. Generic Thanos shows up? That's okay yeetus deletus. 10 years of build up for a lame, uninspired, boring conclusion to what was once a great film series. I will admit there was definitely super hero fatigue growing a little bit before Infinity War, but people like myself held on because they were hoping for a worthy ending, we didn't get it. As of writing this Phase 4 looks like an unappealing trash fire so I don't see any of this breathing new life into the place. It's over.

[@91pancakes]

Imagine being the guy who was unsnapped at the avengers compound only to be yeeted by what thanos again.

[@LBoomsky]

15:17 everyone showing up would feel tacked on and pointless because thor would snap thanos away first just like ironman did bringing everyone back would be stupid at that immediate point

[@Giggles_iJest]

Thor can't redeem himself. He's a straight, white male in 2019.

[@kostaspassias3815]

Plus, they want to put him down to make Natalie Portman and Tessa Thompson look better, because they know no one likes them and treir movies will bomb.

[@johnbishop2536]

@aydooknow Ummm he was making a joke about something that often does headline these days especially for Joker coverage and Bri Lawson's shenanigans. Am I lying?

[@danydady6851]

@aydooknow and you SJWs are the old SJWs. Everything triggers you.

[@kungfuman82]

@aydooknow So calling out hypocritical bullshit means you're participating in said bullshit? What kind of sense does that make? Just admit you were triggered by the original comment and stop wasting everyone's time.

[@TailsWarrior38]

@aydooknow Please call me triggered as well

[@InSpades0]

Honestly the most disappointing part of endgame for me was how they utterly shank Thor's character. Dudes basically a punchline for the whole movie; doesn't get the odinforce, doesn't get powered up by the timestone and able to properly hurt thanos, doesn't even become ruler of Asgard despite it being his sole birthright and giving it to a side character from one movie ago.

[@spencermahan3137]

"These things I didn't want to happen didn't happen so it's bad wah" quit complaining dude.

[@InSpades0]

@@spencermahan3137 are you forreal my guy or are you just trying to pick a fight? The whole point of this video is a critique of endgame.

[@spencermahan3137]

@@InSpades0 Yeah, constructive criticism, not crying that your favorite character wasn't the most bad ass in the movie.

[@InSpades0]

@@spencermahan3137 Thor's not even my favorite character and the fact he was under utilized made into a punchline was the criticism.

[@spencermahan3137]

@@InSpades0 He's kind of always been mostly comic relief in the team up movies, this isn't anything new. And you go on to include him not getting the Odinforce or being "powered up by the time stone" along with other things that I'm supposing you wanted, as a genuine criticism, when it's just you're upset that what you wanted didn't happen.

[@ichbins173]

12:40 basically what happens in The Hobbit. You feel like the main objective is defeating the dragon. But it gets defeated rather quickly and not by the heros, no by a different character. After the dragon is dead you still have to watch through the conflict between the heroes and the elves and men and then you have the battle of the five armies. This is what Peter Jackson actively tried to change by having the weird pale orc hunt them from the beginning. In the books it works, in a movie not so much. 15:30 How great would it have been to have Thanos hit Thor in the chest with his sword and Thor with his last bit of strength snapping the gauntlet saying "YOU should have gone for the head". Snapping Thanos and Co away and everyone else back. How great would it have been to see Thanos being in despair about what he did and then fighting his self from the past who thinks he is weak and failed. This would have been great. But I'd still prefer the Thor one.

[@WingedBagels]

In infinity war, Thanos had to get a space dwarf to build a device capable of wielding the power of the stones. In endgame, Ironman builds a gauntlet in under an hour. And then he uses the stones without the gauntlet anyway.

[@acrow5]

I think it was more, Thanos needed the gauntlet to be able to use the stones without injuring himself. The first time Thanos snapped, he was fine but the gauntlet was damaged. The second time he used the stones, to reduce them to atoms, he was left crippled. Iron Man made a gauntlet that left Hulk crippled with the first use, and he was the strongest of them to actually be able to survive. Then Iron Man used the stones and it killed him. Bit of a difference I think.

[@Jdudec367]

thanos needed a glove that would even fit him and a gauntlet that could be used more then once which worked unlike tony. also...tony's own outfit he used ultimately killed him

[@tiavor]

I liked part 1 (setup) from Endgame, part 2 (time travel) was hmm ... OK, and hated part 3. (the fight) I actually hate that they brought everyone back. It brings more issues than it solves. imagine having turned down production of food and everything else for the past 5 years by half. everything rots away, infrastructure and houses also. and then suddenly you double the amount of people, with not enough resources to feed them and house them. Pretty much everything about the last third was bad, except the scene where cap marvel got punched. but just the scene before it where cap marvel screamed at thanos was pure nightmare fuel.

[@DerezzedMan]

Having Thor snapping would've been EPIC!!!!!! His character would've been redeemed forever.

[@anipneuma4789]

The greatest cinematic experience I don’t want to see again.

[@Katyamuffin]

I wanna see it again. But like.. only the third act. Just play that one over and over again. Basically the same as Rogue One.

[@tizyman7120]

@@Katyamuffin No, i don't want to see the worst cinematic experience ever in my life

[@siddharth_0771]

@@tizyman7120 it's ur personal opinion

[@insane_troll]

The problem with Endgame is that they spent the ENTIRE Infinity War building up to the infinity gauntlet, so we're expecting something epic with a fully powered Thanos ... and instead they kill Thanos in the first 5 minutes with no effort. That has got to be the biggest letdown in the history of cinema.

[@rafaeldeleon225]

When they killed Thanos THAT soon... I almost walked out of the cinema.... Threw everyone off.

[@Alejandro333777]

Insane Troll yeah I expected at least one early fight scene smh

[@rafaeldeleon225]

@PrexorAMVs Exactly.

[@Sextus70]

And also Thanos's decision of destroying the gems after he does the snap seems very retarded and out of character IMO. He should have been smart enough to realize that the universe's population would sooner or later regain its former numbers, and thus he would have to reset it again and again with the gauntlet in some sort of cycle (like the Reapers from Mass Effect somewhat do for example) in order to keep the "balance". Besides, although he deprived the heroes of the chance of reverting the snap by getting rid of the gems in his timeline, he very conveniently allowed to become himself an easy prey. All that just look like very lazy and dumb writing.

[@rafaeldeleon225]

@@Sextus70 Nooo.... to the contrary..... it proved that his goal was genuine... and that he wasn't a power hungry villan.... just that he achieved an end with no regard of the means... But later in the movie he becomes power hungry out of anger...only because he witnessed himself killed and misunderstood... Overal, this was an anti-social driven Thanos not power hungry. Josh Brolin's effect on the character.

[@spooplegeist5260]

I saw this movie to get out of the rain while I was out doing field work. I took a phone call halfway through and had more fun talking about where I could catch lizards in town than I did watching this movie. I was bored out of my mind, even in the final fight.

[@ARottenMuffin]

For me I just never really felt that deep of an emotional tension since I couldn't help thinking about how they were always coming back, and then they announce all their movies regardless of IWs ending. The biggest thing that felt inconsistent to me throughout both was the stones supposed power level. I've never read the comics but just based on the mcu with a quote from GoTG they state how Ronan could wipe out all life on the planet if he makes it to the surface using just the one stone. Why then when in possession of any number of the stones, especially when that same one was the first Thanos acquired did he never seem as powerful as someone capable instantly killing a planet? Infinity War is better in that it's definitely a more enjoyable rewatch, but even in that whole fight he has I believe 4 at point and they just never felt fully utilized in either movie. They had built up this whole purpose of collecting all the stones being 'the snap' which felt like it undermined and neglected of all their innate power previously established.

[@crfstewarje]

Something about the movie felt off too me.

[@BlondeBlurDestry]

Endgame was nothing but glorified fan service with a lot of plot holes.

[@jc-fx3rp]

Endgame has an ungodly amount of plot holes and lazy writing

[@joekauffman9690]

I rather watch paint dry than watch this boring forgettable movie

[@oliverhargadon2316]

What plot holes I'm interested

[@Astraeus..]

@@davidcosloff What in the actual fu@$ are you even talking about? The version of Red Skull that guards the Soul Stone is literally nothing but the guardian of the Soul Stone. He's not some cosmic all powerful deity who can do whatever. Snapping away half of all life took the entire set of Stones and, as everybody already saw and knows, reversing it took the entire set as well. In case it's not obvious yet, Red Skull has NO power, much less the kind that could equal the Stones.

[@toxicmar7111]

David Cosloff that was the dumbest fucking idea I ever heard in my life. Like literally don’t ever think of any ideas ever....like ever...so stupid.

[@DMcK-ro8qu]

they should have thanos deliver the " i'm inevitable" line and when he snaps his fingers immidiatly roll the credits..

[@zoltanrostas-secola]

.....Followed by seven seconds of credits before they dissolve to reveal Iron man using the Reality Gem to trick Thanos? Imagine Robert Downey Jr saying the line "Reality is often disappointing" back at Thanos right after that scene...

[@durim187]

And have Avengers have another go at Thanos in a third movie

[@ShadowGodOfDarkness]

@@zoltanrostas-secola chills

[@synysterwolf1289]

@@zoltanrostas-secola That would have been epic as fuck. Wish they put more thought into this movie. Felt like they just wanted to end it and get it over with

[@jessec.6876]

that would have been the worst ending in movie history. it sounds cool, and brave and risky but if you actually saw that you would have been pissed.

[@superior2096]

23:05 Probably the worst moment besides Captain Marvel showing up.

[@superior2096]

@KAOS NATION k

[@thebossmana]

At first I thought it was Sam Jackson with a helicarier

[@fitzhugh7463]

Too Superior 2.0 I liked it, it was a reference to marvel’s a-force. It was kind of forced though

[@CalamityM]

I'm a woman and I cringed so hard at that scene I hurt my spine. Marvel's pandering is so patronizing.

[@umamagei]

@@fitzhugh7463 guess you could say they A-forced it into the movie...

[@jaceg810]

Fun fact, in the lord of the ring books, afther the ring is destroyed, it turns out Sauroman actually took over the shire with a small band of merceneries and the main crew of hobbits mounts a rebellion with all they have learned on their journey. Idk why it exists, however I actually really liked that part as an epilogue kind of thing.

[@xDrikenx]

Endgame : Pure Fan Service

[@MrsUzumaki]

Pure *BAD Fan Service.

[@ΜάριοςΠεντάρης]

WIth the exception of the people who like thor. My dude went from strongest avenger to cringeworthy comic relief.

[@thewizardbusiness6788]

Sahar Pournazari no Endgame has good fan service

[@lonelysatoshi2482]

@@MrsUzumaki The Rise of Skywalker is more accurate with your comment.

[@larryfoulkeofficial8609]

@@MrsUzumaki found the redditor

[@NekroDesignFactory]

“It’s your boy, Adam!”

[@TomE.V.]

It's amazing after 5 years that Hawkeyes' wife's phone still has battery power.......

[@go_rilla262]

[Laughs in Scouring of the Shire]

[@sirvaljohn8821]

I wasn’t impressed with end game either. The movie dragged way too long. I watched infinity war twice and then in the discounted theatre, but endgame was definitely one and done.

[@AliRadicali]

Thanos felt like a different character because he was: past-Thanos hadn't gone through all of the experiences that had made IW-Thanos such an interesting and complex character. In that sense, I do applaud Marvel for taking a risk and doing something pretty out there compared to conventional story telling. That said, it falls completely flat. Imagine a story where instead of confronting the bad guy head on, the heroes travel back in time and kill him as a baby. It'd be anticlimactic and terribly un-heroic. Or better yet, imagine a story where they don't even confront baby-bad, they just kill some random person because they know it'll alter the timeline and prevent the bad guy from becoming evil. The problem is that this solution completely side-steps the central conflict. It is a creative dodge, I'll grant that, but it's still unsatisfying because what we want and expect as an audience is for the central conflict to be resolved directly with some sort of direct confrontation.

[@wulfherecyning1282]

It was just alright. I mean, that was true of infinity war for me as well, but Endgame was even more "alright". We all know why the media rated it highly, but audiences rated it way higher than I expected based on the quality. Either I am jaded, or cinemagoers have lowered their standards over the past 15 years. Probably the former? But for me the funeral/memorial for Tony Stark at the end encapsulates a major problem with the film; it is a long, overly drawn out, "emotional" moment that tries to show the upset faces of every hero and side character in existence.

[@TheDrizzle404]

I thought it was weird Black Widow didn't come back when they returned the Soul Stone. I had a discussion with my friend about it. He told me it was about sacrifice, but I said the wording was important. A soul for the gem. That could be interpreted both ways, and in both cases you'd be sacrificing something for something else. In one case you'd be giving up a soul for power, and in the other you'd be giving up your power for a soul. I thought it'd be deeper and wiser that way.

[@gerardmourits8709]

A soul can't reside in a broken body. Natasha did not get snapped Natasha snapped everything in her body and died because of blunt force trauma.

[@mr.fridayatholidays5642]

@@gerardmourits8709 Gamora has a deep stab wound in her stomach and also fell down, breaking everything in her body and dying of bluntforce, only that Gamora died painfully while Nat probably died immediately. Yet people still mention how Gamora can come back and all that especially because we see her in the soul gem... yet Natasha cant? Why? Whats the logic here? Did they just do it for that single moment of "so your plan failed and you did all this for nothing, how do you feel?" And just move on, not even thinking about the deeper meaning that they originally gave to the soul stone? Kinda a D&D moment ngl

[@MrMetroidDread]

@@mr.fridayatholidays5642 Thanos turned Gamora's weapon into bubbles with the Reality Stone before she was able to stab herself, so she fell and died like Black Widow did. We did see Gamora inside the Soul Stone after Thanos snapped, however Thanos destroyed all 6 stones which means unless they can bring back the Soul Stone that was destroyed, Gamora from that timeline is officially dead. But even so I don't think they would plan to revive them because almost none of the Infinity Stones powers were explained in the movies. What are the powers of Soul Stone in the movie? The only thing I know is that in order to get the stone you must sacrifice what you love for it. Other than that the movies don't explain anything about it.

[@mr.fridayatholidays5642]

@@MrMetroidDread that adds extra points for dumbness, honestly. The soul stone IS destroyed since I.W. Thanos destroyed it, so Gamora is gone... yet, the old Soul Stone that never ended up with Thanos (from different timeline) has Nat's soul in it, but in the ultimate end, Thanos (not I.W. Thanos) ends up in the Soul Stone (that contains Nat's soul), and speaks to Gamora (who is pretty much nonexistent here), and non of it is examined and explained which in turn leaves these flaws that fuck up a lot of the movie. Ontop of that, the Infinity Stones, together, give Thanos unlimited powers, even greater than death herself (in the comics and all), and he even says that with the stones he can do ANYTHING, so then it would definitely be possible to use the stones to bring everyone back, including Gamora & Nat. Its all confuckled ngl

[@andrewfrank7222]

We do not have enough information about the Soul dimension in the MCU. In the IW Saga in the comics, it is a separate place and outside Thanos powers with the Gauntlet.. Adam Warlock, Dr. Strange and Mephisto travel inside it, etc etc... What is being implied is that Black Widow and Gamora giving themselves up for the soul stone might mean they are tied to that dimension indefinitely... Or snapping them back, is not the way to get them back from there.

[@justanotherlikeyou]

While your point about the snap taking place before the final battle might be somewhat valid, though the final battle did happen pretty much immediately after the snap, and Thanos said he would redo it to include all of them, which you did cover, Endgame nevertheless was a VERY satisfying finale to 10 years of movies. And the final battle, far from being boring or something nobody wanted or liked, was, on the contrary, absolutely amazing, incredible, and emotionally satisfying. Why? Because, even though the main point was to undo the snap, the secondary point followed closely behind which was unfinished business with Thanos. Now you make the point that they couldn't have known about past Thanos coming for them, and this is certainly true. But when they saw a healthy fully armored Thanos ready for a fight, they saw that as their _real_ revenge. Why? Because their Thanos, the one that they killed earlier, was too weak to fight them and their victory over him felt hollow. With past Thanos they had to work at it, and it felt immensely satisfying for them and us to defeat him. So, yeah, Endgame had two main plot points, undo the snap and defeat, I mean really defeat, Thanos.

[@jamesstewart9056]

3:19 i love how rocket actually looks like hes telling captain marvel to 'get out of here' and even gives her an angry stare afterwards!! nicely done

[@RobsonLanaNarvy]

I felt that the emotional tension was the fear to get some important character dead in the final battle, I really though that would be possible to this movie don't even get a happy end.

[@tizyman7120]

Happy ending? Happy ending??? Iron Man died, Black Widow died, Thor leaved New Asgard indifended and Captain America leaved the world without protection, you are a sick bastard

[@hishamkaissi8771]

@@tizyman7120 Predictable. We already knew Black Widow was going to make a sacrifice in order to retrieve the stone; we've seen it before in Infinity War. Since time travel is always an option to change the present, Iron Man can always come back in future movies (MCU's logic is all over the place). Thor was a fat idiot who served no purpose at all, so I could care less about him. I have no idea what you mean about Captain America leaving unprotected. Have you not seen the movie? Do you not realize that he returned to Peggy safely? This movie is pure TRASH, and nothing you say will prove otherwise.

[@tizyman7120]

@@hishamkaissi8771 I wasn't trying to defend Endgame, i was just saying the ending wasn't happy, i hated this movie just like you did, this movie was pure trash, i don't remember almost anything about it, plus i agree with you on Iron Man, he'll probably come back in future movies, i think this is the worst MCU movie ever made

[@hazio7574]

@@hishamkaissi8771 i think Tony won't come back

[@jayb.2649]

Thanos became a fan favorite in Infinity. More likable than Tony.He should’ve killed Tony midway in EndGame that way he looses that likeness.

[@shayanbaig8837]

The point that you make about emotional weight, the same problem BvS had.... the conflict was resolved and then suddenly... DOOMSDAY!!!

[@0ctopusComp1etely]

I think the thing that kept me back most from really "investing" in the final fight was the fact that, in basically every sense, this Thanos was a weaker antagonist than the previous movie's version in every way. Philosophy? It's a lot easier to sympathies with someone who's trying to fix something than someone that wants to wipe the slate clean. Conviction? Infinity Thanos was pro-active and got the stones himself, step by difficult step. Endgame Thanos can't be bothered to sit up for minutes at a time. Power? Endgame Thanos has his conquering army, which admittedly was cool to see in its full force. But Infinity Thanos was attacking with an army WHILE equipped with multiple functional Infinity Stones. We'd already seen him at peak fighting prowess, and Endgame's just couldn't match that no matter how big his army was. Presence? Infinity War was basically a documentary following Thanos's journey for the stones with the heroes doing everything in their power to stop him by any means. Endgame's Thanos doesn't even really impact the plot until over halfway through, and while he brings his A game at the end, the Power argument already shows why he doesn't leave as big an impression. Really the odds were just stacked against Endgame Thanos. We'd already seen him utilized to his maximum potential in Infinity War, so putting a less charismatic or impressive version of him at the end of the followup without any building tension was doomed to not be as impressive.

[@spartacist101]

Just like The Dark Knight Rises wasn't as good as The Dark Knight

[@ahmet_10]

To me rises>tdk

[@ahmet_10]

@Go Time Now so, also you liked tdkr more than tdk

[@thedoc7184]

Funny how the avengers actually finally did some avenging in their final movie

[@AzguardMike]

"that way, Thor can redeem himself from..." Disney: no....he's a man, he cant. We need to get rid of him and make the future a female brand led by Miss Marvel.

[@invalidopinion5384]

firstly, in an interview one of the writers expressed how they believe they did redeem thor, that's what his whole mother scene was, restoring his self-belief and so on, so that they arguably (definitely, in my opinion) failed to do so wasn't because Disney stepped in with some "feminist" agenda. Secondly, the majority of phase 4 movies are male-lead and they were clearly positioning spidey to be the next figurehead at the time, though obviously as his position is still testy they'll move away from that. Disney will include a "girl power"/ "gosh we're progressive" scene every now and then because that lukewarm, tacid support for such issues sells to the mostly centrist/ liberal audience, and that's it. Disney, the corporation, is not progressive or left wing or feminist, it's plainly capitalist and not much else. It'll do what it takes for good press, without straying too far from mainstream political opinion, so that it can make more money. If anything it probably steps in to reel in political ideas that go "too far" for mainstream audiences. I realise that this is a bit long of a comment to make in response to what is clearly a joke, but if there's even the slightest chance that you actually believe that Disney actively promotes an explicitly feminist agenda, you're wrong. Disney is a corporation, and it'd be pro-anything if it would sell.

[@goodolnonamee]

@@invalidopinion5384 I'm pretty sure that in the upcoming Thor movie they're going to screw over Thor and make Jane Foster the new Thor. Although I hope that isn't the case something tells me that's the way it's going to go.

[@invalidopinion5384]

@@goodolnonamee taika has already said that Chris Hemsworth will be the main character. Portman will be the new Thor but it won't be her movie. Why's it such a big deal anyway?

[@goodolnonamee]

@@invalidopinion5384 In the comics things go bad for Thor REAL HARD after he loses his own fucking name, he'll turn into the most useless fucking character in the entire universe and he'll become a D class character. He'll be insulted and get the crap beaten out of him every time he is mentioned afterwards if he ever is even mentioned afterwards. It's truly pathetic how big of a dump they take on Thor, I wouldn't be surprised if the movie does the exact same thing.

[@noobishtitan9714]

@@invalidopinion5384 you would expect corps to act in their financial interests right? Well if you take a good look at the NFL or NASCAR you'd know that's not always the case

[@guildmasterskarma]

It's a shame that Infinity War had such a great setup for the future of Marvel films only for Endgame to reverse all of that. I would have loved to see whatever would happen to the remaining superheroes and the world's they traveled to after the effects of Infinity War. Just imagine that the whole snap could've justified bringing in a female Thor or a black Spider Man because both of Spider Man and Thor could have been snapped and needed to be replaced by these different iterations of these heroes. That would of made sense and could totally be interesting but I guess we'll just have to keep watching generic Marvel superhero movies until they stop making money. *sigh*

[@retrohero2762]

That's even worse lmao

[@redhillbones7672]

Oh, god, I wouldn't even want to look at the fandom if they'd done that. It would have been a dumpster fire made of nuclear waste. It would have been awful. At least this is a fitting send-off where we can still get Thor: Jane Foster, Ms. Marvel, etc. without upsetting more than a vocal minority. Also, it would have been cutting stories off from their natural conclusions. IM, Cap, and Thor all needed fitting send offs while Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Hulk needed jumping off points for their own movies/series that introduce their successors (Yelena, Kate Bishop, Jen Waters i.e. Bruce's cousin), which is why the original Avengers remained unsnapped.

[@killersands5116]

Major flaw for me was I didn't like the way time travel worked in the film

[@Katyamuffin]

Yap, this is why you don't do time travel. Ever. There's ALWAYS gonna be a paradox.

[@dumusstarbeiten5063]

@@Katyamuffin watch dark on netflix. my favourite series, it solves the paradoxes pretty nice. if you watch it, id recommend you using the original (german) audio

[@Katyamuffin]

@@dumusstarbeiten5063 I always take subs over dubs, no worries. Might check it out

[@user-ip5xn9ks9k]

@@Katyamuffin Imo X-Men Days of the future past did it way better.

[@karlfransson7568]

*sees titel* Oh? *sees uploader* OOOH????!! Oh yeah, this gon be good

[@zanitzeuken]

tiddies? whar?

[@TrianglePants]

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[@MrReaperLuke]

I feel like Thanos went from being a somewhat understandable yet morally misaligned villain. the good kind that truly believes what he's doing is for the greater good, all the while acknowledging the burden and emotional toll it brings with it, and instead changed him into a "I will kill you, and I will enjoy it" generic villain. It was as if they realized they made him too personable in the first one and chose to dumb down his dialog to be more generically >Insert Mermaid Man "EVILLLLLLLL"

[@rusheena]

+Jeffery Deadstein Thanos seemed like an entirely different character in Endgame, and it took me out of it. Marvel reverted back to their villain problem after proving that they could have a fleshed out, complex one in Infinity War.

[@MrReaperLuke]

@@rusheena Same to a T, i loved infinity war for the mere fact that I felt sympathy for Thanos and in turn was slightly understanding to his goal+respectful towards his dedication. He wasn't two dimensional and in turn had sympathetic points which is important for a villain. Endgame, he flipped like a pancake. To the point that he even states "i'm going to enjoy wiping your entire planet personally" Even tho previously he made it clear that while he was a genocidal maniac he didn't take pleasure from what he did, seeing it a necessary evil and that he was the only one with a strong enough will to burden that brand. Such a shame.

[@Spoot401]

Holy moly, this video finally compiled all my thoughts and made sense of them as to why Endgame just did not sit right with me! It all makes sense now!

[@jpdominator]

I saw Infinity War twice in the theater and 4 times at home within a few weeks of it coming out on BluRay. I saw End Game once in the theater and it has been in the wrapper since coming out on BluRay. Infinity War is the conquest of Thanos and the coordinated efforts of the heroes attempting to prevent the “inevitable.” End Game isn’t about anyone. There is no villain. They should have introduced Galactus and had Thanos realize the snap was the wrong choice. That Galactus was the balance in the universe. That the snap sped up the consumption of Galactus because he requires life force, and thus had to eat twice as many planets to satisfy his hunger. (Continuation) they could have kept Thanos as a half-abled badass in the beginning of the movie and having known he made a mistake, because he is the only one that knows Galactus is coming because he became Eternity, talked with the Living Tribunal, got the Gauntlet taken away from him while his body was empty, and you have the Thor, Cap, Iron Man scene against Thanos when he goes back into his body. You get all the things and set up a new huge Villain, and then introduce Adam Warlock at the end of the film.

[@davidpainter2860]

Why diddnt they feature a baby black widow in the soul gem

[@dabombinablemi6188]

Watching this movie just makes me want to re-watch the Fifth Element.

[@higaiwokeru]

I think that Endgame is like a one experience movie, you just see it again for one scene, the final battle But with Infinity War you love every scene The time travel scene, to me, was sooo boring and some of the jokes didn’t land on me

[@abhinav2898]

The "Ya boy Adam" soundbyte added the structure to this video

[@account-pb2df]

Guarantee all dislikes where from people who watched the first 40 seconds and found out it was judging endgame

[@Zach0451]

Endgame gets worse as time goes on for me. I hate time travel plots.

[@drascalicus5187]

What I hate even more is contrived time travel plots.

[@HunterMearo]

@@drascalicus5187 aye, steins gate and the old 60s timemachine film work for me because they remain within their own established rules. I guess it doesn't help that the travel in EG creates more questions than it answers.

[@Jdudec367]

eh I disagree still a great film

[@brandonmccallum6750]

@@Jdudec367 I agree, however it is worse than IW. Not by much though.

[@Jdudec367]

@@brandonmccallum6750 well honestly I disagree I think it's slightly better but honestly there so close it's almost impossible for me to choose

[@ryuujin9573]

Imagine if, in the Lord of the Rings, after destroying the ring, instead of concluding it there they went all the way back to the Shire only to find Saruman in charge and had to have another fight to defeat him again. That would just be silly.