PSE NXT33 vs PSE NTN

[@conchrisafis2617]

John Dudley has given the archery community so much I have learned so much from one amazing man and he deserves the opportunity to join any team and help design something awesome his knowledge is second to none. A great archer is only as good as his/her equipment.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I agree and have learned much from his videos, but between the real tree camo (on NXT) and only "ONE" position offered for sights on the NTN I had to go with the NXT. Still very happy to see Dudley join PSE though.😃👍

[@peterlavelle567]

Don’t doubt the Dud! Very happy NTN 33 owner here 😉

[@truthsayer81]

That’s what I thought, I wonder what they will do with a full 12 months of development and maybe a clean sheet

[@aceman7snorey]

Just bought mine today! Can’t wait to hit the range tomorrow

[@eddieserna5494]

Just picked up an NTN 33 yesterday in Digital Camo..I can’t put it down, it’s a great looking Bow. I went into the bow shop to get the Elite Kure and I figured I’d shoot the PSE and it didn’t take me long to lean towards the PSE.. the draw is really smooth and has a solid back wall..the valley is really Phenomenal you literally have to help it forward and is quite forgiving. I’ve been dealing with a shoulder injury which gives me a little shake from the sharp pain but I have no problem grouping in a 2-3” ⭕️ not to mention it has a 90% let off which is great if you have to hold a shot. Once I got it dialed in I couldn’t put it down. It’s a really fun bow to shoot.

[@jamesjgill]

Good consumer advice as always. I appreciate the comparison, and the fact you had a really good shooter test it out.

[@zipstring]

Thanks for your work on reviewing archery equipment.

[@ObelixCMM]

3 positions, 5 holes

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

@@ObelixCMM I looked at mine for a while, I believe you can get four positions out if five holes.😃👍

[@russelllieser4226]

Have the NXT and love it. Wandered what was the difference. Thanks for the video.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I know the NTN can also get the 80# limbs. I think, (not sure) that you can only get the 80# limbs on the 31 NXT, but I'm happy at 62#'s.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I wanted the NXT 35 but my DL is only 26"ish (so no NXT 33) and after trying the 31 I found the weight was all I could handle. I have now shot enough to add a 2.5' stabilizer and two V bars to my 31. I have also added a heavy coiled spring to the lower/ second stabilizer, and used two arrows hot glued in to have the same fwd legs as the NTN.....I now have a 31" real tree camo "hunting target" bow and loving it.

[@chickimac1]

Thinking about picking up the 33 version

[@truthsayer81]

For some reason when I was looking the price difference was closer to $500. But the conclusion I came to was that the NTN was really only changed to make sure that you could buy the knock on rest to go with it as the nxt wouldn’t work with it. By the time you pay the extra $500 for the bow and pay $400 for the rebranded AAE pro drop away you could have set up the nxt with a PSE specific rest, got a good quality sight and a mid range or even cheap hunting stabiliser and has a pretty good bow. If you buy the NTN and the knock on rest you still need to spend another $600-$800 on the sight and stabiliser. I could have possibly bought a nxt if I could have had the chance to try one, unfortunately the only way to do it was fly to archery supplies because no one else seems to have them in Australia. Johns reach works because he builds trust with new archers and tells them about his stuff first so that’s what they buy.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

It was $1200 in the states but after a new drop away and setup, it ran $1475. Thank goodness for the STIMULUS check.😂👍

[@capricornmagic63]

I think consumers will convince themselves that one bow is better than the other just because it carries a name attached to it. I don't even know why they call i John Dudley bow. He didn't design any aspect of the bow. He used it and suggested that PSE added one or two minuscule features that has no affect on the performance of the bow.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

You obviously haven't shot one yet. Go try one, you will be impressed.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

You need to shoot one. They are AWESOME! Dudley's input did a lot for PSE hunting bows - it improved accuracy, speed, forgiveness, vibration damping and added some custom tweaks. Would I buy his signature bow? Nope. Will I buy the NXT and customize the HELL out of it? Yep! For a while there bow manufacturers were all about speed and 'performance' and PSE's industry-breaking X Force was the culvert. It's good to see 7" plus brace heights coming back with smooth and forgiving cam systems. For me, the idea of target accuracy in a hunting bow is awesome.

[@rogerkay8603]

Looks great, and JD is a top fella.

[@josephacker5716]

Love this reviews👍 Any reviews for 2020 Martin and/or Darton bows?

[@ccleadge]

the holes in the yolk are not exclusive to the NTN my 2018 evolve 35 has holes, where as my (2019) supra focus has none, but my partners (2019) supra focus does.

[@loki8284]

Another difference between them is the NXT has a lower front stabilizer bushing. The NTN does not have one.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I used the lower stabilizer to lock in a coiled spring with two glued in arrows on the short spring for weight reduction. Works just as good if not better because my cam doesn't touch the ground with my two V-bars added.

[@jimmyjones2426]

As an Aussie, John Dudley has had a bigger impact on my archery than any other person. Not only did he jump from Hoyt to PSE, he took Joe Rogan, Jocko Willink, Andy Stumpf and all his high profile podcast mates with him. Huge move from PSE

[@jasonrichardwatts]

@ Jimmy - remember when you fist got into archery? Did you know what arrow spine and bow tuning really meant? I didn't! I used to anchor wherever I felt like lol. My accuracy was CRAP! You're right mate, Dudley has conjured a big following and it's because he simplifies tuning principles and steps people through all the ins and outs with free videos. That's what Australia needs, free information. I used to work for Steve and we put together an information package which would have new archers hitting an apple at 10M and understanding how and why they did it. That's the real key to keeping archers in the sport.

[@wyckedan]

The NTN also has a wider shelf with a spot for the arrow launcher to rest.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I believe you can get the NTN with 80# limbs also.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

@@theamazinggoldfish8713 you can get the NXT in 80# too. PSE made the 80# model because the NXT is slightly down on speed compared to other bows. 80# affords you the same forgiving bow characteristics of the NXT and you can shoot a heavier arrow to improve kinetic energy. Basically it means that you're upping your passthrough chances on big game whilst still maintaining shootability and accuracy.

[@happytrails1963]

Those bows look amazing!

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

Yes but the camo "REAL TREE" is super sharp in my opinion, go for the NXT.

[@macmacca659]

I like the idea of two arrow rest bolt holes and the holes in the plastic yolk buttefly thinngy for drop away rest. Coloured strings are cool and so are the graphics. I would pay the extra $200 for it, would it make shoot better? no, but it looks cooler! Would it hurt to drill a hole in the plastic yolk bits on a normal NXT to tie in a drop away or are the NTN ones different? Cheers

[@ObelixCMM]

PSE yoke butterflies always had holes in them and they are aluminum, unless they changed them for this year.

[@ccleadge]

@@ObelixCMM yolk holes are hit and miss my 2018 evolve35 has them but my 19 focus doesnt, where as my partners 19 focus does. But there are marks where the holes would be where there are none.

[@macmacca659]

cleadge should be good drill them out then?

[@ObelixCMM]

@@ccleadge I have Evolve 35, Shootdown and Supra Focus and they all have holes

[@richandkidarcheryandoutdoo4372]

I used the yolk hole for my limb rest on my evolve 35 and it eventually cut through the cable so I've now attached to limb. The double holes for rest are no use with a lot of rests as they have to be set rearward to clear the shelf. I wouldn't ever sit my bow with the cam in the dirt or ground

[@brendanhayes5565]

We’re is your shop Located? And liked your honesty on both bows thanks.

[@mulishapatrol]

John Dudley is a world class Olympic gold medallist, world class archery trainer, good hunter and an all round good guy. I've been watching his stuff for years he's a major draw for PSE espiacally bringing Joe Rogan, Jocko Willink, Andy Stumpf and probably more of his celebrity podcast friends with him PSE will win majorly and I think Pete Shepley has decided to go out with a bang and really get the business booming! Everyone I know started on a PSE I shot a PSE because my dad shot one they are a great long lasting bow. I've just gotten back into bows after a few years shooting rifles and pistols, I bought a PSE Decree HD off you which I'm stoked with! I'd love to buy the NTN 33 but I think the wife would kill me atm, when money permits I'll buy one and hopefully a full throttle as well I'd love to keep a collection of the best PSE flagship bows money permitting.

[@dxtclue6427]

He was never in the Olympics . FFS

[@ObelixCMM]

Compound bow is not Olympic discipline and John like to exaggerate his accomplishments. Every arrow is perfect and every bow shoots bullet holes out of the box. Why do you think comments are disabled on his videos?

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I understand the concern. I had to use my stimulus check plus to get my 31 but man was it worth it. Shockless, smooth draw, quiet and feels like it is 10#'s lighter to draw than it is. Speed (full throttle) ain't everything. Just go try one you may sell your other bows.

[@jhuntley575]

@@ObelixCMM hes a very accomplished archer and puts out good information for beginners.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

@@ObelixCMM World archery events which are year round "DO" feature compound bow.

[@jaredj631]

Do colored strings help kill more Deer?

[@robeasy13]

Who would put a whisker biscuit on a high end bow?

[@mattthadd4663]

Do both bows have the pse live wire strings? Or just the NXT?

[@AVOinc]

Does this mean you are going to start stocking the rest of the Nock On gear like the rests and releases?

[@truthsayer81]

Just get the AAE pro drop away it was built from

[@Groovemyster]

I got the NXT 31 just before JD changed from Hoyt. He must have heard 🤣

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I also got the 31 and now have set up stabilizers and fwd legs on mine similar to Dudley's bow. I did just have to drop my sight to the lower hight, couldn't have done that with the NTN.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

@@theamazinggoldfish8713 Very true. Dudley uses hugely adjustable Spott Hog sights. To be honest, you really can't beat the NXT for the money as it ticks all the shoo-ability boxes.

[@semjasa83]

i like my NXT33 for 3D Fun shooting, for Competition i use the SupraFocus :) its more stable for me.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

Have you tried changing the letoff?

[@semjasa83]

The Amazing Goldfish yes, First i bought was the low letOff Module.

[@jasonjohn1978]

I love my NTN...

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

Look, the NTN is a great bow but for the cosmetic features and no real shoot ability mods it’s not worth the huge price difference here in America the price difference is still substantial after putting on the customer green strings which I actually don’t like. That’s why I went with the NXT 31 faster just as smooth and for me i like the shorter bow for ground blind hunting. However when it’s bed time and your sitting there in your own thoughts, go with what your gut says or better yet let the bow speak to you.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I got the 31 also. I added a coiled spring & glued in arrows to the lower stabilizer and it does the same thing as Dudley's leg supports. Love mine but have set-up for target shooting so still getting used to weight and sight.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

You're on the money there GroundRoots. $200 will go a LONG way in arrow rest and sight upgrades on the NXT.

[@theconcourseapprentice2451]

I want one!

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I used my stimulus check to get mine, well worth it. Just go shoot one. Draw feels 10#'s lighter than what's set.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

DO IT! I'm ordering one for myself right now! After shooting as many 2020 bows as possible, the NXT really is the bow that shines through. In my opinion, the only bows in the same league are target bows. As Steve pointed out, the guy testing it shot TWO perfect scores. Steve mentioned that the guy will try out the 75% let-off modules. Why would you bother if you shot TWO perfect scores?! FYI - The NTN is about $200 more expensive. For that price you could have a set of custom colored strings made and fitted. Just sayin....

[@maikp5505]

Are these better than the Expedite ?

[@ultimatejay]

Best thing you can do to all those bows is take that crappy grip off. The bow is so much nicer without that grip on- try it, you will be amazed

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I like the feel of the grip but I will try it for accuracy's sake.thanks.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

Just shot about 50 arrows and I agree with you,..... thanks 😃👍

[@wcwcgarner2717]

He now has the back strap release. 219 dollars US

[@martywhitt6230]

I think I stay with my omen pro have lot more speed but sometimes I shoot golf ball at 80 plus yards no joke when pse come out with that believe me they new what a true speed bow was I wouldnt give it neither new bow made to me it still one bad ass bow

[@iwilrage]

So.......take an NXT 33.....and take out all the adjustments....BUT use green strings...and bam!

[@bengibson502]

The only difference is he's had a bow built for himself and he's milking money out of it from PSE. That's literally the only difference 😂

[@jasonrichardwatts]

Just like the 'Keep Hammering' Cam Hanes bow that dropped today - the Hoyt Torrex. Although for $1300 bones (or $1450 if you want Cam's name on it) I reckon the price is WAY too steep for a mid-level hunting bow.

[@michaelulukau3252]

Agreed.

[@sahhull]

I'd sooner have the standard bow. I guess this will do for those who need an endorsement on it to buy it. I really don't care who won using X bit of kit. Archery is 98% the person holding the bow. You cannot buy success.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I agree but found the 31 was all the weight I could handle at first and the 33's DL started out at 26.5, to much for my T-Rex arms.

[@waynehumphrey8910]

Good old branding has to have a name to buy it I make my decision on how it works for me not who else has it or what manufacturer makes it

[@jasonrichardwatts]

Give the NTN or NXT a shot, it'll blow you away. They are the most forgiving and well balanced bows I've every held/shot. And no bias here, I've shot PSE bows in the past but I never found them to be very forgiving...

[@timbow50]

The Evolve 35 has a recess in the riser specifically for the pse drop away rest. I had to file the lug on the rest to get it to fit the recess. No big deal but damn that's pure stupid on the rest manufacturer. I'm not a fan of giving an couple hundred $ for paying a fee for a marketing deal with any archer. Why do that when the NXT is just 99% the same bow. But, I've never been a fad follower of anyone.

[@ryancafin7892]

pse= pre school equipment..dont like their new bows feel like cheap plastic to me..better companys out there

[@theketoterrorist1177]

How to know if Steven Hand is lying.... "His mouth is open". This guy is causing more damage to the PSE Brand in Australia than I though possible and I've emailed PSE to let them know about how he does business. If you have ever dealt with him you would have experienced his rudeness, his lies and his con man persona. Wake up people....the only reason this guy seems like a good guy is that he is the only show on KZbin here in Australia. He's just good at marketing himself!! Worst customer service experience I've ever had dealing with this clown.

[@jhuntley575]

Even if all that's true why smear him with the low blows and name calling. It tarnishes your opinion and makes people untrustworthy of your thoughts.

[@jasonrichardwatts]

I don't think ANYONE is going to take your word seriously when you have 'terrorist' in your name... A word of advice: try incorporating some carbohydrates into your diet as it will alleviate the nutritional stress on your brain. I've worked with Steven HANN (not Hand) and I will tell you that he is one of the nicest and most honest people I have ever met. Someone wise once told me that you can count the number of true friends with the number of fingers you have. Steven is one of those characters. Sure, he may be forgetful and his reviews may not always be 100% scientific. However, holding a PHD, I can tell you that he is highly emotionally intelligent and he integrates scientific principles into his reviews far more than most. He's also the real deal: he shoots target archery and he shoots quite well. You'd need to spend years shooting all of the bows and analyzing the results and scientific data in order to put together realistic and honest reviews like Steven does. Get off your high horse and go and shop elsewhere if you don't like him. It's an open market. Just don't whinge when you pay 1.5 times the price for the same gear without a warranty because a backyard operator sold it to you.