PSVR 2 on PC Deep Dive

I love video games. I love playing games in VR. I hate Sony. I love PlayStation games. I hate PlayStation. I love the PSVR2....wait now I'm conflicted.
As mentioned in a later video, I'm updating these older descriptions. At the time of writing this, I'm about 3 months out from when I originally received the PSVR2. It's good. Better than good actually. It's freaking fantastic and it's made content creation LEAGUES easier than the HP Reverb G2. I feel like I'm actually excited for new VR releases now. Speaking of, if that Aliens game isn't the greatest thing in world, I'm gonna be a saaaad panda. Xenomorphs are some of the coolest monsters ever. Also Prometheus is a fantastic movie. Never trust movie reviewers. MP OUT!
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[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

I refuse to acknowledge those pin holes on the Quest 3 as speakers. Anyways... Hey y'all! If you'd like to stick around, hit up the community Discord! ✌ discord.gg/bWhpC7jzED Also, come hang out with me on Twitch! 👍 www.twitch.tv/mostlypositivechannel

[@toututu2993]

VR needs to be promoted since is the most entertainment in gaming history ever. It is also a portal to massive potential in general technology ever in 21st century. Once you spend some years with it and try out some decent game, it surpassed anything flatscreen device cannot ever do

[@foster9315]

This review is so in-depth and full of details. You need more views, keep up the good work.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

I really appreciate you saying this, thank you so much ✌

[@WaveSmash]

Nowadays the lenses, resolution, and panels REALLY hold back the Valve Index. I don't think it's worth getting anymore unfortunately.

[@vrenthusiast71]

As a daily driver of a Valve Index. I too agree with everything stated here. I would also add. The finger tracking isn't anything more than a novelty. It was never that accurate and has little support in games. Lastly, the controllers are not built to last. I have had 1 analog stick wear out so badly it flops around like those old N64 sticks used to. And the grip panel snapped off. On the replacement that cost $150. The grip panel also snapped off. I am not hard on my tech. This is Outrageous for a supposedly premium $1000 product. That said. I have also had THE BEST entertainment experiences of my life in it so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

@@vrenthusiast71 This is super interesting to hear. I didn't know about this. It's pretty crazy how much staying power the Index has had though. I feel like we've only recently entered a period where the Index is no longer considered the best.

[@ILoveUEVR]

I'm keen to see what Valve would do with a new headset release, but I can't help but think the competition is so stiff with Quest 3/3S and the inevitable 4, that the business-heads are probably (rightly) thinking that doing so may not be a good proposition nowadays.

[@SanctusBacchus]

@@MostlyPositiveChannel yeah, Index would be far from worth it even if it was the same price as the PSVR2. But at $1k base, plus the inevitable $100+ per pop repair costs for the cables and controllers (which WILL fail after a couple hundred hours), it becomes an even more ridiculous proposition.

[@proggz39]

@@MostlyPositiveChannelno one considers Valve index the best for vr besides Gabe Newell suckoffs

[@eziothedeadpoet]

You mean OLED Screens not OLED Lenses 😂 Besides that cool video!

[@WaveSmash]

The PSVR2 is still at its full price of $550. It went on sale one time for $350 and that was definitely the best price it has ever been. In fact that's a pretty acceptable price all things considered. But $550 is just crazy. Especially with all the other things you NEED to buy to get it working smoothly on PC.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

100%. Honestly $550 is acceptable for a headset with no downsides, but that literally doesn't exist yet. Every single headset I've seen has at least 1 thing about it that another does perfect and vice versa.

[@ecuity]

It’s $350 with horizon game rn, fire deal imo

[@WaveSmash]

@ecuity Yeah that's a really good deal. It's a good sign that the PSVR2 will still go on sale now and then.

[@deathpuff115]

​@@ecuity bruh literally came to this video thinking the same thing lol I got a ps5 and am building a pc looking to see if can get a vr headset that works on both

[@AshuraRegres]

I'm lucky enough to have bought in 7900 XT with a USB port. So I do not need it in bathroom and it's awesome!

[@MinibattleLop]

I have an index and prefer my psvr2. The reason mainly comes down to the faulty hardware of the index and stick drift, but still oled is wonderful

[@Merdox-]

no way this guy only has 1k subscribers

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

I really appreciate you saying that man. Thank you for the support ✌

[@aj_bary2044]

The PSVR 2 earbuds that come with it are actually pretty good. I use them every time I play GT7 on PS5, plan to use them on PC now too.

[@PrimalShutter]

Pretty throughout, you deserve more subs

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Thank you for saying that, man. I really appreciate the kind words ✌️

[@spambaitpro]

Black Friday sales everywhere have the Horizon Call of the Mountain bundle at $349 for the next several weeks, so grab one! Also, Sam's Club and Costco have the same $349 Horizon bundle PLUS the official Sony charging station (a $49 value) which is honestly a steal.

[@crispyryce3585]

Failure on the PS5? I'm not sure about sales, but it works fantastically on the PS5. I wouldn't call it a failure. That's not very positive.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Lol yeah I was referring to sales numbers

[@sontosmamephitsune]

Good stuff! Also my headset of choice is the Meta Quest pro. Love the thing can't recommend it with good conscience though.

[@Jaggith]

Itll be interesting to see if iVRy driver can reenable all of the missing features: HDR, eyetracking, foviated rendering, haptics.

[@sigmsjgf]

Wait have you tested, im very curious?

[@EJD339]

I have a ps5 but I finally decide to get a pc when Sony announced the psvr2 was coming to pc and I’m very happy with my choice. I can’t see myself buying a ps6 for a long after it comes out

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Oh nice dude! PC is definitely the platform for VR. The catalog for quality VR games isn't totally there on any platform, but it's definitely building. On PC, your options are SO much wider thanks to mods. Plus nowadays, every company is putting their games on PC. Not much of a reason to get an Xbox or PlayStation anymore. I'm happy to hear you made the jump and I hope you're having a blast ✌️

[@robertwelch2843]

Just ordered a PSVR 2 and adapter to run on my desktop and hopefully ny new Zephyrus G16 laptop i got during cyber Monday this year. It will be my first time ever trying VR so im definitely excited to see how it goes. Also prepared to send it all back if i dont like the experience 😁 Edit: Forgot to mention I got the headset on sale for $345 so definitely a good entry price for a first time experience compared to other options

[@pbmonkey484]

I see the lack of advanced haptics and adaptive triggers on PCVR a non-issue at all. It's a neat feature on PS5, but the Sense controllers have really bad battery life. I've noticed that they last quite a lot longer playing on PC when they aren't using those features.

[@brightenblack207]

These controller disconnects are driving me absolutely mad. Guess I'll buy a USB hub next I go out

[@merm7th]

I already had the psvr2 when the pc support and adapter came out. I already had the display port cable, and I had no issues using my laptop's internal Bluetooth. Was just a $60 upgrade.

[@afikpl3050]

3:10 Sony could add things like eye tracking, haptic feedback, adaptive triggers ext. but they are too lazy to do so

[@ContentFreeTime]

Great video! I have to ask - after all that you ended up spending on it, do you think it might've been worth it to get an Index instead?

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Thanks man, much appreciated! It totally depends on what exactly you want. A lot of people don't have space for base station tracking, like myself, so inside out tracking is a godsend. On top of that, the Index, while still impressive, is definitely showing its age. The tracking is phenomenal, but the lenses are subpar compared to modern headsets. The Index controllers work with a number of different headsets, so you don't actually need the Index itself to experience the benefits of the controllers and base station tracking. Then there's the fact that the public knows Valve is working on a new VR headset, we just don't know when it will come out. I'd say for the average consumer, the choices are really between the PSVR2 and Quest 3 right now.

[@Dramure]

So can you do a plug in Bluetooth while you play it with the PC plug in too?

[@steeltribe3967]

Great review. Thanks.

[@JoshuaKnab]

Haptic feedback triggers is really good. I feel like it would work way better im VR.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

I would definitely love to try them out one day. The Xbox Elite controller is my controller of choice. The back paddles are a godsend. I can't justify buying a DualSense controller just for a few neat features, plus I'm not a fan of the symmetrical stick layout. I've seen people keeping tabs on Sony logging new versions of the PSVR app on Steam, so it's possible that official support could come one day.

[@97Navdeep]

Thank you for the video.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Yeah dude, no prob. I appreciate the support ✌️

[@TheSumafu]

Thanks!

[@michaelavrie]

Love the PSVR2 except for the awful lenses. I don't regret my purchase at all, but I really wish they had done the right thing and used lenses that don't have a tiny sweet spot.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

That's insane to read. Coming off of the Reverb G2, these OLED lenses are god-tier. If you're talking strictly sweet spot, then yeah I hear the Quest 3 is miles above the rest. I don't think the sweet spot is bad on the PSVR2 at all, especially compared to the G2. Plus, having true blacks and good brightness goes a long way for VR.

[@michaelavrie]

@@MostlyPositiveChannel an important thing to note is I have to wear eyeglasses... i believe the sweet spot is smaller if there's more distance between the eyes and the lens.

[@htpkey]

​@@michaelavrie You can buy insert prescription lenses for the PSVR2. They improve the sweet spot.

[@michaelavrie]

@@htpkey I just ordered some from VR wave! Thank you!

[@htpkey]

@@michaelavrie Nice! I hope they work well for you :)

[@AllTheBestVideos]

Bro sounds like a Thrill Seeker Mini

[@Quinn-916ty]

The creator of cactus cowboy got the adaptive triggers to work on pcvr with the psvr2 not sure if its public though

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Whoa, this is news to me. I'm super happy to hear devs are getting in on this too. I gotta wonder if Sony plans on officially bringing these features at some point

[@JonasRosenven]

I'm still using the Oculus Rift S I got back in September 2020. I havent found anything I wanted to replace it with. Perfect tracking, hassle free setup and built in sound. The only thing I missed a little in the beginning was the oled screens my Vive had. I do NOT miss having to wear headphones though. And I got the rift for 420 bucks which was a pretty nice price. I only use it for car sims and never use the controllers so I don't really know how good/bad they are.

[@lhamagedon]

After watching your video it came to my attention that you would have been far ahead getting a quest 3. By the way it does have speakers built in.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Read pinned comment in regards to the speakers. Also, I'm curious as to what you mean by "you would have been far ahead by getting a quest 3"

[@lhamagedon]

Just all the tinkering you had to do to get things to work, and you're still tethered by a cable. With the quest 3 you can use cable or wireless no fancy Bluetooth configuring, just a much more simple setup.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Gotcha. I mean that's just the nature of technology, especially when it comes to gaming on PC. Sometimes you just gotta mess around with things until it works. It may have been a pain to set up, but I haven't had any issues since and I hope this video was able to help people understand what they might have to do so they don't have to go through a similar situation. To be clear, this is on Sony for making it a bumpy transition to PC and not on the user. I do see where you're coming from though, but I love the PSVR2. I've heard extremely mixed things about the Quest 3's PC streaming. It might work well for 10,000 people, but I've also seen 10,000 other people say it looks terrible. From all the research I've done before making the purchase, even at the best quality, streaming doesn't come close to the visual clarity you get from being plugged in through DisplayPort. Even Quest 3's cable options don't compare to DisplayPort either. I also don't mind being tethered to the computer. I don't notice the cable at all, especially compared to the one on my HP Reverb which always felt like it was in the way. I also need to be at my computer anyways since I'm always recording, streaming, browsing through files, audio mixing, on the fly editing, etc. etc. I don't necessarily think one is better than the other. They both have their pros and cons. I think it's completely dependent on ones needs, and for me the PSVR2 got me closest to my ideal experience for gaming and content creation. I appreciate the response and I hope I was able to clearly expand on why I chose the PSVR2 👍

[@stefanlopez1835]

I think it's just that the controllers won't work with cheap USB WiFi cards. I have a higher end PCIe WiFi card, so if I have any trouble connecting the controllers I'll come back here and let yall know.

[@alexandrzatonsky]

why modmic? tons of wireless lav mics out there! you can go with any used rode wireless go or its cheaper counterfeit under 60$

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Good question! First one I've seen asking about a lavalier mic. Since the ModMic Wireless is connected to the computer through it's wireless receiver, I can talk on Discord, in game voice chat, and record/live stream in OBS. It's convenient, simple, and gives me a number of option on how I want to approach voice chat/recording. If we're strictly talking about recording content, then my Tascam DR-10L is certainly an option. It could definitely provide a much higher quality vocal recording if used correctly, but then I'd have to go out of my way and transfer the audio file from my Tascam to my computer and sync it with the recording every single time. I would also have to consider all the rustling that could happen since you're bound to flail wildly in VR. There's also battery management since it isn't a rechargeable device. Plus it would be one more thing to think about, set up, and have one more wire dangling from me, as opposed to the ModMic Wireless where I literally just have to turn it on and that's it. Even if I consider the Rode Wireless GO, instead of my Tascam, it would be the same situation minus the battery management and dangling wire. In conclusion, VR is notorious for having to deal with a lengthy set up process before finally being able to play something, so you can imagine how much worse it is as a content creator. The ModMic Wireless keeps things as simple as possible, with no additional wires, and also greatly improving vocal recording compared to the PSVR2's onboard mic; and the only extra step that's added to setting up is a single button press to turn it on. Hope this was a good in-depth answer 👍

[@dragonsnackproductions]

Mic tuning: use a micro furry ball thingy ;) PSVR charging station has an overcharge protection. Agree 100% worth it, let alone for the battery on the headset never running dry too fast.

[@Lfunk1983]

Got the Sony on the big sale. Has Been a blast. Looking to get a decent pc this coming year!

[@SanctusBacchus]

Picked one up open box from ebay with the charging stand included for $300, now that I've used it I definitely wouldnt pay more. Maybe my expectations were too high, the last HMD i used was the CV1 a couple years ago, with no VR in between, and comparing the specs and my memories i expected to be blown away. But I wasn't, the res isnt as crazy high as i thought, it still looks like im looking into the world through binoculars (my prescription lens inserts dont help I'm sure), and the mura doesnt bother me that much but is definitely noticable. And thats not going into the compromises i had to make (i cant run my triple 10-bit 4k monitor setup with this connected), and how hard it was to get it working.

[@Ezz0Clan]

I've been wanting to get into VR Gaming, and this headset seems like it's been worth every single buck, if you own a capable PC or PS5. I do need graphics card upgrade before then, waiting on the Radeon 8000 cards to see what AMD has been cooking and if any of them come with VirtualLink supported so that there'd be no reason for the adapter, even tho this might be unlikely.

[@blimseynoeyes]

Great deep dive thank you. Ive a rift s and been looking at the quest 3 but it sounds like a hassle, this could be perfect for me plus I can play gt7 🤔

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Glad you enjoyed the video and I'm happy to hear it was able to help you out 👍

[@dionatanribeiro4732]

Your video was the better review I saw. Thanks

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Thank you so much. I just wanted to share my experience and be completely transparent with people who are interested in getting into VR or are thinking about upgrading. I genuinely love video games and I want more people to pick up VR and experience the absolute magic I have so far.

[@NickFoxQuixand]

Adaptive trigger haptics is very annoying on the ps5, i disabled it pretty quickly

[@iskda1585]

this video sold me on the psvr2 lol

[@Zantriuce]

Hey im also a reverb g2 owner and wanted to ask what the battery life on the controllers are like on the psvr2 because that for me is a big issue on my g2.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

I didn't have any issues with either the G2 or PSVR2 controllers in terms of batter life. For the PSVR2, I had multiple sessions that lasted around 3 hours straight and they didn't die. There's also a setting on Steam where you can have them auto turn off after a set amount of time of inactivity. While making this video, I often switched between editing and gathering footage. So while Steam VR and the headset were running, the controllers just auto turned off while I worked on other things. I hope this helped ✌️

[@Zantriuce]

Yeah thanks it just annoys me that the reverb g2 used 2 AA per controller and only had like 8 hours of battery life

[@KeshenMac]

11:52 no it doesn't. i use my motherboard's built-in bluetooth just fine

[@andresvalenzuela160]

So is the PS VR 2 usable on pc vr now? I remember thinking about getting the headset for both ps vr and pc vr but being told that it was horrible and completely unplayable on pc.

[@Mr.ClimateChange]

Yes. As long as you get the adapter and a DisplayPort 1.4 cable it will work. PSVR2 is on sale for $350 right now too.

[@Remy0727]

Does anyone know if the Corsair HS80 headset will fit on top of the PSVR 2? And is 5.2 built in mobo Bluetooth fine for this (the Asus adapter is 5.2)?

[@2009heyhow]

Is it possible to watch KZbin in VR with the psvr2 on the PC? Because on PS5 they killed the VR function (it worked on PS4 back in the day). I know that VR content on YT kinda died for some reason, but i happen to really love it actually. Traveling to places that i otherwise never would go to. As well as videos from VR content creators who make really fun videos. Some bands even do (or did) VR livestreams so you can see them perform on stage, in VR.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Yeah. You pretty much pull up the Steam Overlay, choose your desktop display and watch KZbin through your browser. Then float the screen in the game world or attach it your hands. I always do this when I play Walkabout Mini Golf. Makes for a real chill time. Now, if you're talking about 360 video, then I have no clue what the state of that is on KZbin.

[@johancitygames]

wut, the quest 3 has speakers, also wth, $300 for a psvr2?, that thing cost almost $600 here i wish it was that cheap here lol, my quest 3 was a lot cheaper and doesn't need an adapter to play on pc which reduce even more the cost and you can play it even without a pc which is amazing for some games, also with quest 3 you can use it wireless on pc which is a point of no return (with almost native quality using virtual desktop), the only important accesory you need to make that thing comfortable is the head strap that costs me like $25 and works good enough. so i don't understand that part of the video, but the review itself, great review.

[@zenkoz3158]

I got mine after the price drop in the US. I think they went from 600 to 400 USD

[@nullzero]

@@zenkoz3158 550-350 in the US before taxes. Hopefully there will be another sale for blackfriday/xmax.

[@toututu2993]

Bought Quest 2 and I see the excitment of gaming return since I played NES back in the day. Since ps2 era, gaming have been gone downhill but VR is something truely surpassed everything beyond and is a true revolution since computer were a thing

[@Otch.o]

thx for the video. You consolidated my decision on buying a Quest 3 haha. Jokes apart, the side by side comparison of what graphics looked like in both of your headsets was a very good idea. You might be one of the only youtubers that has ever done that.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Yeah man, no prob! I'm not here to convince people one way or the other, these are just my experiences. A competitive market is a good market for the consumer. New tech for gaming is exciting, and I'm down to try whatever. I'm glad you enjoyed the side by side comparison. I did my best to accurately show the differences through video effects, because there really isn't a single good way to show it without actually trying a headset on yourself. Thanks for the support man, means a lot ✌️

[@Krulaks]

Is this BT of yours connected to an active hub or a regular one. 2.0 or 3.0? I too have no usb 2.0 port on my mobo and tracking is a nightmare + constant drops.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Lol BT is plugged into a regular hub's 3.0 port, and the hub is plugged directly into the computer's 3.0 port. No it doesn't make sense, but it works. That's the backwards logic of PC gaming babyyyyyy ✌. I can't remember if I said it in the video, but I did have to turn off the motherboard's onboard bluetooth for it to actually work

[@roflcopter117]

Commenting just because you used Protoman's theme.

[@toututu2993]

Contractor Showdown have pretty much active playerbase if you play the Reborn mode. Not sure why they keep adding new mode just to split playerbase which is annoying

[@Joker-fj8hg]

I only have a Switch I don’t know why I watched this 😂

[@paanzzz]

I think your usb hub is usb 2.0 hub. Since you plug 2.0 to the usb 3.0, the output become usb 2.0 😂. Thank you for the review. Make me want to purchase it. Sit with Pico 4 right now, my internet is not that good, tired with blurry mess using Virtual Desktop

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Lol nope, it's 100% a 3.0 hub. From all my years dealing with tech on PC, I've learned that solutions don't ever have to make sense.

[@strangemachinex]

Quest 3 has speakers.

[@engageit]

Quest 3 has speakers

[@gervasiosgerva]

Good review. On the audio, I use the 3d pulse from ps5 . It works on PC, too. Since I already used it on my ps5, I continue to use it on PC. About the Bluetooth I use my chinise PCI wifi/Bluetooth. In the first time suck. But when I saw people using extenders on usb dongles decided to buy an extension cable to plug my antenas away from PC case. I pay like 3 dollars(2x on per antenna) in now. It works perfectly. I always suggest that to people before spending on more expensive asus one.

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Thanks a lot man, and thanks for the insight. PC is a crazy environment where everything works and nothing works at the same time, and sometimes the solution to the worst problems is turning your computer off then on again lol

[@phreshxmetal]

calling yourself "autistic" every few minutes is a pretty scummy thing to do if you aren't actually

[@justpancakes6019]

fr its so annoying

[@rbigwhip]

your reaction is far more annoying!

[@sauhamm3821]

quest 3 is better for pcvr, the lenses and clarity are a noticable step up, can be used stand alone without a console or PC, has rhe largest library by far, is lighter... etc etc. they all have pros and cons, but the cons for the psvr2 include not being able to buy replacement controllers when one breaks? riiiight... you can buy and enjoy it all day, but for PC? there are better options.

[@jdogofoz3642]

psvr 2 though has horrible mura , low resolution especially once you factor in how the pixels are used by sharing the 3rd pixel. connected buy i wire all the time and the image smearing and old fresnel blurry lense its not a nice experience if ypu prefer a crisp image i choose my quest 3 over it everyday even wireless to the pc it still looks better

[@yurithebrave]

Saying "OLED Lenses" over and over and that Quest 3 doesn't have speakers doesn't give me a lot of confidence that you know what you're talking about.

[@anotheruser8523]

Did you watch the entire video? He elaborates more on his points

[@anotheruser8523]

Also that’s what he cares about in VR headsets

[@yurithebrave]

​@@anotheruser8523Yes, I did, clearly you don't understand what's wrong here either