Psychonauts 2 Said ‘Gay Rights!’

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Allen Ortega

Allen Ortega

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@Gu1tarZer0
@Gu1tarZer0 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who "drinks a little more often than they should" this level was really painful.. but the design was amazing
@KnoxCarbon
@KnoxCarbon 3 жыл бұрын
Bob's mental world legit broke my heart, seeing this happy memory and seeing how his life completely fell apart after losing Helmut. Between being fired by his own nephew, practically begging to keep his job, denying his very obvious drinking problem, you just wanna give the guy a hug and tell him everything is alright. I'm just glad it all turned out okay.
@belleparsley7797
@belleparsley7797 3 жыл бұрын
Bob is easily 2nd place for most depressing, but Jesus Christ, poor Ford.
@sardonicus1739
@sardonicus1739 2 жыл бұрын
@@belleparsley7797 Did Ford really get it the worst though? It feels like knowing the love of your life died is a worse feeling than knowing the love of your life became a monster briefly, but is alive and well and living a happy life. Not to mention the fact that he fractured his own psyche means he wasn't aware enough after that point to suffer in quite the same way as someone who's "all there" mentally. I'm not saying that means that Bob got it the worst, but more that it's hard to quantify the idea of who suffered the most when all of them suffered in different ways.
@belleparsley7797
@belleparsley7797 2 жыл бұрын
@@sardonicus1739 huh. That's a really good argument. Nice PFP too
@belleparsley7797
@belleparsley7797 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I can't remember what was going through my mind when I wrote that, but I feel like I was focussed more on what was explicitly said instead of the deeper storytelling. I know that the peaceful protestors line got to me way more than anything else in the game. That specific moment is when I knew this wasn't going to be quite as silly anymore
@fabiancaceres1473
@fabiancaceres1473 3 жыл бұрын
while playing this, the only thing i could think was "lmao this was done in a way it was imposible to censor"
@racer927
@racer927 2 жыл бұрын
If Censors aren't saying "No!" to it then it can't be bad, right?
@AdachiSimp
@AdachiSimp 3 жыл бұрын
love how they put it in the game like it was a natural thing. No one pointed out, no jokes, no mention. These two are together, just like any other couple. Period.
@exahtahtor
@exahtahtor 3 жыл бұрын
“No one pointed it out” lol, that’s what makes it so unnatural. Here we are pointing it out in 2022…the game is set in the 1980s…nuff said. My reaction was “they’re gay?” “They don’t seem gay” “seems like a last minute story change”
@FirstDayson
@FirstDayson 3 жыл бұрын
@@exahtahtor dogwhistle harder. FYI, trying to excuse or okay outright homophobia in media is a relic of our reality, and not everyone enjoys 50+ years of being told that their love is against humanity. Maybe, just maybe, the video game that opens with "THIS IS A GAME ABOUT HEALING AND EMPATHY" actually means it and you acting like something should be treated unnatural is...bad? Either way, hope you grow up soon kiddo
@TotoPotoRoto
@TotoPotoRoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@exahtahtor how do gay people look like?
@suziebelle3738
@suziebelle3738 2 жыл бұрын
@@exahtahtor imagine accidently admitting that you believe gay stereotypes lmao
@robozardexceptthisisthe3rdnew
@robozardexceptthisisthe3rdnew Жыл бұрын
@@exahtahtor I get where you're coming from, but this is a story and while I agree the level of acceptance is unusual, stories can take liberties like this. Not to mention this workd is far more advanced than ours probably due to psychics, and maybe the Psyconauts have made people more accepting at this point. Besides if this was 100% realistic Hollis being the 2nd Head of the Psyconauts would be highly unlikely.
@Olimar92
@Olimar92 3 жыл бұрын
In no playthrough will I ever grab that seed before he finishes. I shall forever hold my peace.
@greatwyvern099
@greatwyvern099 3 жыл бұрын
Imma say this...this is what lgbtq representation should have been portayed in the media, it's a part of the character's story, it's not overly dramatized or was made it a big deal, and it's definitly not added in on last the minute or even a after thought for twitter brownie points (looking at you blizzard)
@AlbertWesker1004
@AlbertWesker1004 3 жыл бұрын
EXACLTY ive seen an asshole's Steam review saying the game was bad because "dont put politics in mah games" (as if LGBT and gay wedding aint a real thing) Homophoby at its finest
@Unkn0wn.m3
@Unkn0wn.m3 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, it was so natural, they didn’t try to shove it down your throat
@greatwyvern099
@greatwyvern099 3 жыл бұрын
@@Unkn0wn.m3 yeah i hope other games that have lgbtq characters in the future are naturaly represented like this game
@stairmasternem
@stairmasternem 3 жыл бұрын
Full agree. It’s a natural part of the narrative, not something advertised, not something made a big deal of.
@apothisiii5549
@apothisiii5549 3 жыл бұрын
@@stairmasternem I love how bob and Helmut's relationship was handled, it was incredibly tactful.
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 3 жыл бұрын
Not only did Psychonauts 2 NOT bury its gays, it RESUERCTED them!
@exammole4545
@exammole4545 3 жыл бұрын
Resurrect your gays should be a more popular trope
@NEEDLESALAD
@NEEDLESALAD 3 жыл бұрын
@@exammole4545 So true❗❗
@qwertyqeys
@qwertyqeys 3 жыл бұрын
WE DISCOVERED RARE PRE-BURIED GAYS TO UNEARTH, GET YA SHOVELS TEAM
@NEEDLESALAD
@NEEDLESALAD 3 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyqeys QUICKLY GET THE NECROMANCER WE NEED TO REVIVE
@chasepyle6168
@chasepyle6168 3 жыл бұрын
From a frozen lake 😌
@sloanemiller1833
@sloanemiller1833 3 жыл бұрын
these two are so fucking cute. What I love about it is how they're both a source of courage and anxiety for each other. Both feel like they failed the other but in learning they didn't they're given the strength to keep fighting. I wish more relationships in media had roots as strong as this one. AND WE BARELY SAW IT!
@justsomewritingfan2202
@justsomewritingfan2202 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly sad that the relationship of two sidecharacters that were together on screen for barely 10 minutes, in a videogame of all things is better written and explored than those in most comics or shows.
@CoalEater_Elli
@CoalEater_Elli 3 жыл бұрын
Bob and Helmut's relationships are the best lgbtq+ representation out there. This is how media SHOULD pretray gay relationships. It feels natural, and i like it a lot. These characters are lovable, interesting and you can relate to them. They feel alive.
@mattkugelman4369
@mattkugelman4369 3 жыл бұрын
Well some, the only problem is the either corporation that owns it or journalists who both pander to the concept for finance
@peytonreed937
@peytonreed937 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, dont make it this grand overdramtic thing. Just play it cool and nature. Like any other relationship
@berniekatzroy
@berniekatzroy 3 жыл бұрын
They did it right unlike other media just pushing propaganda.
@beepster4096
@beepster4096 3 жыл бұрын
@@berniekatzroy if you think gay representation can be propaganda in any case, you are delusional
@berniekatzroy
@berniekatzroy 3 жыл бұрын
@@beepster4096 I stand by what I said.
@Squeaky_Ben
@Squeaky_Ben 3 жыл бұрын
Between this and Fords shattered mind, these are genuinely the best levels of Psychonauts 2. the bossfight is not annoying (the bad moods can be, but eh) but yeah, its... like you are watching a train wreck. You can see Bobs life unravel and it just makes you feel fucking horrible. I wonder if there is an analysis what sort of psychological problem every level represents? For Bob its that he numbed himself to every pain I guess?
@Indigospade
@Indigospade 3 жыл бұрын
While paychonauts 1 lent itself to more specific disorders, 2 seems to give its mind multiple themes and overlaps so the minds are more complex. Theres a big theme of guilt and trauma Loboto - abuse/trauma Hollis - addiction. Also mirrors fords action with changing lucys mind Compton - anxiety, panic attacks, rejection sensitive dysphoria Psi king - panic attacks. Coma. Possible synesthesia. Hyper sensitivity to sense overload Cassie - disassociation (possible D.I.D.). Trauma enduced identity crisis Bob - alcoholism as a means to bury memories. Post traumatic stress. Mood swings Ford - fragmented personalities that each lock away repressed memories Nick - narcissism Nona - maligula represents a primal fight or flight response to extreme trauma. The circus and quilts showcase fake and real memories
@Todarain
@Todarain 3 жыл бұрын
I interpreted Bob's level as him isolating himself from everyone he holds dear and being afraid of making new bonds because he's been hurt so many times. It's why he asks Raz to stay at the beginning of the level because that small amount of human contact was enough for him to so dearly miss it, but he's still too afraid to actively seek out his lost friends himself.
@merlin_merlot
@merlin_merlot 3 жыл бұрын
the levels usually have multiple psychological themes being represented. bob "bottles" things up, and isolates himself, mentally and physically, from his guilt, problems, and trauma. The moth, and a lot of the level, represents his coping mechanism of escapism; the overwhelming ocean of issues he has to wade through is too much, so he turns to alcohol. The quiet peacefulness of the outside ocean and island compared to the turbulent lives of the bottles helps showcase the contrast. Inherently, the ending of the level is about getting better one step at a time; the golden seeds in the sea may look overwhelming, but eventually you'll have your garden. One plant, then the next. There's a couple of side things as well; the generational cycle of addiction, the feelings of ineptitude for the people he cares about (that one otto convo you can get in his brain were essentially bob is projecting onto the psychic six that they only care about him because he's a 'package deal with helmut'), and while I haven't entirely figured out the symbolism yet I think there's something to be said about there being stained glass windows of plants in each ending area of the bottle. While I love helmut's level, I really enjoy bob's for how intricate it is. the metaphors are incredibly clever.
@Squeaky_Ben
@Squeaky_Ben 3 жыл бұрын
@@merlin_merlot the otto thing I did not even notice, where do you see that?
@merlin_merlot
@merlin_merlot 3 жыл бұрын
@@Squeaky_Ben you have to boat around the ocean to find the island with him on it, I can't remember exactly where but its fairly close to the origin island with bob. I recall seeing him on my trip to the second bottle. Look for a tent like thing, it's a small island to spot.
@PolyFranchesco
@PolyFranchesco 3 жыл бұрын
Psychonauts 2 did not just say "Gay Rights," it screamed it and I love it
@Agent-lw3fh
@Agent-lw3fh 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz ur gay af
@MovieGoer-ff4pn
@MovieGoer-ff4pn 3 жыл бұрын
@@Agent-lw3fh and your homophobic af 🙄
@somerandomdood3478
@somerandomdood3478 3 жыл бұрын
@@Agent-lw3fh Ayo? Quit being deadbeat downer.
@Bevsworld04
@Bevsworld04 3 жыл бұрын
@@somerandomdood3478 no fr tho, its kinda sad how people are like "oh em ghee psychonauts said gay rights yaaaay"... like chill, the characters are gay, so what?
@qxxanael
@qxxanael 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bevsworld04 gay people could still be considered a minority and validation from media is worth cherishing. same with positive representation. there is no less homophobes than before and a lot of people making fun of gays hence they are absolutely allowed to be happy about psychonauts saying gay rights
@TooRudeProductions
@TooRudeProductions 3 жыл бұрын
What I love is that they just exist, not a lot of focus is put on it, it's not some big revelation, it just is what it is, as sexuality should be
@GFCOLCQuote
@GFCOLCQuote 3 жыл бұрын
I've played some LGBTQ heavy games like Ikenfell and Heartbeat, but this scene really does a much better job at respecting it with its representation. It flowed so much more naturally, and was simply an extension of the character. Nothing dramatic, nothing shoehorned, it simply _is_ and it's _wonderful._
@hellboytroy3816
@hellboytroy3816 3 жыл бұрын
This is it, this is the way to have gay representation. Psychonauts does this so perfectly, and I don’t think once do they say the word gay. They don’t make a big deal out of it, their a couple and that’s just part of the focus of their story. Hollywood butchers characters and slaps “gay” atop of it like that cleans them of creating a boring, bland and sometimes annoying character. These two though? Bobby and Helmut? They work perfectly, because it’s not their defining trait, and they don’t even make a big show of it. Sure you can say the wedding is a show but it’s more so a focus on Bobby’s pain than going “LOOK AT OUR GAYS”. This is the way to do it, not treated as something different, but just as normal as it should be.
@Olimar92
@Olimar92 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is it's practically told to you when you first enter the Mother Lobe. Just look at the carving of the Psychic Six, Bob and Helmut have their arms interlocked. Still loved going to the Feel Mobile after helping Bob and listening to their conversation.
@ineedzemedic5810
@ineedzemedic5810 3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood has its characters who are LGBT written by straight people who assume they are being helpful to represent the community. Honestly its hard to find a good lgbt rep in media as their either the side character whos obviously a stereotype on every aspect. Or deadass given 3-5 minutes of screen time and and killed off its really sad to see:(
@chiroptera626
@chiroptera626 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just enjoying the "quiet place" and then Helmut starts talking about "My Bobby" and I *LOSE* my DANG MIND 🤩
@grimm_bot
@grimm_bot 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that they slow you down and make you listen to this - that you cant just speed by and somehow miss it. you hear the entire thing. god its so lovely.
@flooferderp2918
@flooferderp2918 3 жыл бұрын
This moment was so sweet.
@queencancerous5332
@queencancerous5332 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best representation I’ve seen of this topic, it shouldn’t be treated any differently from any other relationship.
@Roboshi2007
@Roboshi2007 2 жыл бұрын
One great moment was when Helmut returns in "Nick's" body but refuses a kiss with bob, it shows respect to the body he's borrowing and realises the idea of consent to someone who can't answer right then. This was around the same time of Wonder Woman 84, which had a similar situation, only they took the approach to use the body how they wished.
@jonth9200
@jonth9200 29 күн бұрын
i really really liked that bit yeah
@daweev
@daweev 3 жыл бұрын
the moment made me cry, that world was so heart breaking.
@donvoltonus8898
@donvoltonus8898 3 жыл бұрын
The saddest part is when they get Helmut's body back, he's gonna be 20 years younger than Bob.
@DomitriCervantes
@DomitriCervantes 3 жыл бұрын
they can put bobs brain into someone younger :P
@destroyingheal3968
@destroyingheal3968 3 жыл бұрын
@@DomitriCervantes Well true but that's most likely gonna trigger Body Disphoria!
@destroyingheal3968
@destroyingheal3968 3 жыл бұрын
What if he aged but REALLY well! Like an Ultra Mega Silver Fox!!!
@Olimar92
@Olimar92 3 жыл бұрын
There's no telling how long we'll all live. Don't forget that Helmut's brain has still aged itself.
@PresidentPixel
@PresidentPixel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Olimar92 nah Helmut’s Brain was preserved in the jar so it would not have aged either but self aware that time has passed
@shadesofdusk4031
@shadesofdusk4031 3 жыл бұрын
Psychonauts does homosexual representation correctly, they made the relationship between Bob and Helmut natural and caring with alot of small personal nuances that made them seem more alive. Lately there's been a problem with attempting representation in video games but accidentally comes off as either an afterthought or a pale stereotype. It's nice to see in depth writing like this
@len-len3661
@len-len3661 3 жыл бұрын
@Mega Canon No, the series just hasn't sold well. It's a sequel to a game that released at the end of Xbox's lifespan. Also they generally don't get enough marketing.
@len-len3661
@len-len3661 3 жыл бұрын
@Mega Canon That doesn't mean anything, the games don't sell much regardless lol. Those parts weren't even advertised, you'd only know of it after you played the game or already knew beforehand...
@Suggesttt
@Suggesttt Жыл бұрын
More thought and emphasis was put on this than the actual ending of the game 💀☠
@SpaceMonolith1.4.9
@SpaceMonolith1.4.9 3 жыл бұрын
Not only does bob have depresion , by entering his mind , he can also give you depresion , his story is really depresing but just shows that , in a low , there is a high , and in a high , there is a low , things get better , if you wait long enough
@SpainHater
@SpainHater 3 жыл бұрын
right at that moment the first thing I thought of was that one sonic image that says “these bitches gay, good for them”
@butttonn
@butttonn 3 жыл бұрын
I awed so loudly in this scene and I almost cried
@ZgermanGuy.
@ZgermanGuy. 3 жыл бұрын
when I got the code for this game via e-mail (i was a backer) I read on steam something along the lines of "mimimimi once again SJW propaganda" and I just knew it was going to be something completly harmless and not obnoxius at all and I was soo right. Its neither a big deal nor is it in your face its simply part of who the characters are.
@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419
@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 3 жыл бұрын
People are hiding behind these statements to desperately hide theire homophobic tendencies
@ZgermanGuy.
@ZgermanGuy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 very true its less a mask and more face paint if you catch my Drift
@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419
@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZgermanGuy. a big reason im such a big fan of this series is the way everything flows together seamlessly, nothing really feels shoe horned in and the world of Psychonauts has such a organic feel to it yk. Every NPC feels like a inhabitant of this world and every line of dialog feels somehow naturally and real like I can believe these are somehow real people living normal life's in this word wich was a big reason I fell in love with the game in the first place. And Bob and Helmut are no exception it's one of the most organic believable relationships I have seen in a video game it was not obnoxiously center stage of the whole experience no love conkers all, not even challenging peoples beliefs, it was just there flowed naturally in the background not hindering the game flow in any way so yeah They are definitely not as tolerant as they make themselves out to be, and what is tolerance if not just the ability to just bare with something rather than just accepting it. (sorry for the little Rand I just really love world building in Video Games)
@ZgermanGuy.
@ZgermanGuy. 2 жыл бұрын
@@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 no its okay While i am not a big fan of overly political correctness myself i can see when the complaining is just a smokescreen to hide the fact that someone actually is a homophobe or rascist If minoritys simply being in media upsets you its obvious were the wind blows. And yes you are right psychonauts is written so well every Charakter feels alive and believeable
@bitter-bit
@bitter-bit 3 жыл бұрын
Psychonauts 2 really said Resurrect Your Gays should be the new Trope
@choas99999
@choas99999 3 жыл бұрын
This scene made tear up and made me feel seen by one of my favorite game series of all time.
@MaskOfLimbo
@MaskOfLimbo 3 жыл бұрын
Props for Double Fine. The reveal of this couple was very natural. First on Helmut Brain when we were shown he was very close to ear guy, Bob Zanotto (at first I thought it was Lilys dad, but then I remember "oh yeah, she have a uncle"). Very nice and natural. Then, later on when we had to help Bob, obviously he would have a section dedicated to his MARRIAGE, with someone that he said helped him a lot in his life. Helmut. Not a moment I felt it forced. They were characters, persons, and not some bullshit of being there just because they are gay and to make the game more inclusive. They matter to the plot and they are GOOD characters in general. Amazing job for the developers.
@linkman4432
@linkman4432 3 жыл бұрын
When you realize this game still takes place in 2005. This moment is REALLY progressive for its time.
@misterartist1603
@misterartist1603 3 жыл бұрын
And the event took place somewhere in the 1970s
@OsmSkylandersCheats
@OsmSkylandersCheats 3 жыл бұрын
The games could take place anywhere from the 60s to the 2000s. The wedding was 20 years before the games's events. Either way, very progressive for the time.
@bakacdaz
@bakacdaz 3 жыл бұрын
​@Flybreaker Footage I think 1980 is make sense. Mila's world has Disco theme it fit in 80s while Psi-King's world base on Hippie culture that popular on 60s. (Still little weird that they has CD player and Mobile Phone on 1982.)
@OsmSkylandersCheats
@OsmSkylandersCheats 3 жыл бұрын
@@bakacdaz Milla’s world seems more a combination of 60s Mod and 70s Disco honestly
@boodahbass
@boodahbass 3 жыл бұрын
so much of this game made me feel things in such a deep way. psy1 is clever and deep and psy2 is exponentially so. bob is so much rolled into a single character between being an alcoholic, disturbed by the loss of the one person he felt understood him, burdened by the expectations of his family and how it affects the rest of his personal relationships, anger issues that can even become violent... even when you explore the ocean a bit and see his own versions of his friends and family telling him that they 'had to' like him because he was romantically involved with Helmut. that real fear that youre inferior to everyone youre close with and that they're just putting on appearances. then theres that moment where he tries to stop you from leaving the island even though he barely paid much attention to you in the first place... it's somethin real.
@racer927
@racer927 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the brilliance is the way the vines let you into his mental world, especially when they turn Bob around right before Raz jumps in. Either the vines are sentient enough that they're staging an intervention to help Bob or it's Bob's Herbaphony subconsciously begging for help from Raz despite his outward reaction. That and I love when you explore other minds of the Psychic Six to see their perceptions of the others. Helmut seems confident in everyone else and has a positive outlook. Cassie feels like the others didn't listen to her concerns (Otto's tinkering with the Astralathe, using Lucy's hydrokinesis for Psitantium mining, etc.), Compton feeling like he was responsible for everything falling apart and, like you said, Bob feeling lonely because he felt like he was only accepted due to his relationship with Helmut.
@saltycandy245
@saltycandy245 3 жыл бұрын
Ok for a second I thought this was saying that it was a bad thing, until I realized I was completely wrong
@christianwright7581
@christianwright7581 3 жыл бұрын
Well, isn't that what love naturally is? You start to think it's a bad thing and try to get rid of it (like a weed), but then that "weed" ends up growing into the most beautiful flower you had ever seen. Then comes along another flower just like it, and then another, until finally your heart has been transformed into a garden of these flowers that you care about and cherish with every fiber of your being. And to take this garden analogy further, the flowers are set up in a pattern made to resemble the person who planted those feelings of love in your heart in the first place.
@midgetwaffles8635
@midgetwaffles8635 3 жыл бұрын
Bittersweet and beautiful.
@war2theren227
@war2theren227 3 жыл бұрын
The part that really stood out to me was when Helmut reunites with Bob, it didn't matter that he wasn't in his body. They loved each other regardless. It was very touching.
@racer927
@racer927 2 жыл бұрын
That and Helmut turning down a kiss because of shared lips.
@gothmomcosplays
@gothmomcosplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@racer927 Thats even better in a way because while the shared lips belonged to a vile person, the persons autonomy was still respected, showing you can not like someone but still respect their boundaries and bodily autonomy.
@superdaveozy7863
@superdaveozy7863 3 жыл бұрын
If it was only that easy to go inside of an Alcoholic's mind and help them, rather than have them slog through the 12 step program.
@gilbertotabares8196
@gilbertotabares8196 3 жыл бұрын
Is there anything more beautiful and awkward than two bears in love? Yes there is. But I won't deny this was a very sweet moment.
@definitelynotjidfshill5886
@definitelynotjidfshill5886 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this is exactly why i loved this scene. It didnt have to do with bears, gay dudes, any thing really. It was literally just 2 people that loved each other, expressing that. There wasnt anything awkward with it at all. It was just a sweet moment with two people that really loved each other. Regardless of the orientation, it was great. Projecting your own fetish(bears) on it kinda ruins it imo. To me, this is one of those rare moments from the entertainment industry, where they focused on the core aspects of human intimacy/emotion that effects everyone, regardless of orientation.
@gilbertotabares8196
@gilbertotabares8196 3 жыл бұрын
@@definitelynotjidfshill5886 *😢Why must I ruin everything that's beautiful?😢*
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 3 жыл бұрын
@@definitelynotjidfshill5886 Not sure where you're getting that 'bears' is a fetish but OK then. I think 'bears' is just another way of saying Teddy Bears, nothing wrong with that?
@gilbertotabares8196
@gilbertotabares8196 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roadent1241 it's cause chubby gay guys are called bears. I had a couple of "uncles" like that. Sweet guys, real classy.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 3 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertotabares8196 Ah, OK. So yeah it's just a term of endearment? It's cute.
@dink6530
@dink6530 3 жыл бұрын
Heyyyy would you look at that, it's not overly in your face and not out of place, it's subtle, it's fits with the world and describes realistic feelings of both the positive emotions, and feelings of considering that said love isn't right.
@scarritt
@scarritt 3 жыл бұрын
This moment was so sweet.
@weirdalexander8193
@weirdalexander8193 3 жыл бұрын
Well, now we know that psychonauts was inspired by 60s spy stuff, but didn’t take place in that time period. Granted, the hippie movement was in full swing (just check helmut’s world), but I doubt that they’d get a proper ceremony in that era.
@micahwilliams2384
@micahwilliams2384 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why everyone is saying this like secret weddings weren't a thing. "it wasn't legal tho" like lol you think it has to be for people to hold a ceremony?
@Landis963
@Landis963 3 жыл бұрын
As mentioned by others, it was undoubtedly a private unofficial ceremony - indeed, both versions of it we see (here in Bob's level and the figment diorama of it tucked under the stage in Helmut's level) don't have anyone there except the other members of the Psychic 7. More to the point, however, as Augustus says during the post-game: "Psychics understand each other." As all the Psychic 7 were delving deep into each others' minds, opening vaults and pushing the limits of their psychic talents, they all grew quite close to each other. Recognizing that Bob and Helmut's love was no different than Ford and Lucy's love would be a simple conclusion to draw when you can see all 4 perspectives easily.
@BatailleRapTishort
@BatailleRapTishort 3 жыл бұрын
i mean it might as well take place in a reality where homophobia isn't a thing, since nobody ever judges Bob and Helmut for being gay
@darnoc001
@darnoc001 3 жыл бұрын
This scene was precious :'
@starrykailani
@starrykailani Жыл бұрын
Bob and Helmut were my favorites and it warmed my heart that they were together. With or without this, psychonauts 2 is a 10/10 game
@sapphiredawn4321
@sapphiredawn4321 3 жыл бұрын
HOW U DO BEING HOMOSEXUAL RIGHT OTHER TRIPLE AAA S AND HOLLYWOOD COULD LEARN FROM THIS. Sorry hollywoods 1d bs gets to me
@heftyclam6219
@heftyclam6219 3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, they made a character who is gay and not a gay character
@sapphiredawn4321
@sapphiredawn4321 3 жыл бұрын
@@heftyclam6219 so true but HOLLYWOOD never gets it
@jonth9200
@jonth9200 29 күн бұрын
its not played up as a super big reveal that theyre gay, which i admire, but its also done in a way that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to deny, ignore, or censor, which i like even more. and on top of all that, theyre also just a really sweet couple.
@KGKSkull
@KGKSkull 14 күн бұрын
It’s built up actually a tiny bit. With how bob in helmut’s level was an ear. And the reveal is done big, but not a big reveal, since the reveal is done as a way to expand story and show the characters while also being fun
@lou626
@lou626 3 жыл бұрын
IM NOT CRYING IM-
@aderose
@aderose 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not even gay, but Bobs Wedding Vows got me all choked up. Love is love regardless. :,)
@Fruit_Infiniti
@Fruit_Infiniti Жыл бұрын
Gawd this moment make me choke up. Psychonauts is fantastic and the devs are amazing for it.
@foxticide6282
@foxticide6282 2 жыл бұрын
i love how this game just completely subverted the very common tropes when it comes to representation. they make a lot of the het relationships very vague and tease us sometimes (sasha and milla is one i think) and then full on make the only established relationship WHILE unburying your gays with helmut and bob. the writers did such a good job with this and the entire game in general
@Circuitssmith
@Circuitssmith 3 жыл бұрын
Be gay, read minds.
@lunari64_
@lunari64_ 3 жыл бұрын
PFFFFFF thank you for this
@christoffersjberg933
@christoffersjberg933 3 жыл бұрын
I hope other games that are gonna have a gay couple pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to this
@lannydragonlover
@lannydragonlover 3 жыл бұрын
Cried when I saw this in game. Came here and gaddang it got me again ;_;
@snbsixteen6stars201
@snbsixteen6stars201 3 жыл бұрын
So heartbreaking
@marrocovin
@marrocovin 2 жыл бұрын
as a queer person this moment almost drove me to tears, its the only happy moment in bobs life that we actually get a glimpse of, its basically a core memory. and as much as i also appreciate being loud and proud as a celebration of pride and liberation and whatnot, i also love representation like this- its simple, a whisper almost, but integral to their characters nonetheless. its beautiful, and so is this whole level, fuck even the whole game. its a masterpiece.
@atom_supuniverselovefromearth
@atom_supuniverselovefromearth 3 жыл бұрын
This is for me the best way to include it, not overhype it, don't make it a big deal, the character doesn't care, its simply there and people have to get over it.
@drakependragonthedragonkin7842
@drakependragonthedragonkin7842 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of thing that I wish we see more, not just in games but in other form of media such as comic, books and tv shows
@kookyflowers4633
@kookyflowers4633 3 жыл бұрын
sobbing
@ntndo64
@ntndo64 2 жыл бұрын
Psychonauts 2 has the perfect example of true inclusion, it’s just a natural thing in the game, it doesn’t feel forced, and they don’t base the whole character on his preferences
@fairybread7603
@fairybread7603 3 жыл бұрын
This scene maded me cry
@jaotrx7163
@jaotrx7163 Жыл бұрын
These words omfg
@iferlyf8172
@iferlyf8172 3 жыл бұрын
I tear up every time I listen to this speech, it's so beautiful :,)
@laok
@laok 3 жыл бұрын
i thought it was sad we don't hear helmets response
@Nitro89
@Nitro89 3 жыл бұрын
Um its Helmut not helmet
@laok
@laok 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nitro89 still sucks the guy cant remember his husbands wedding vows or a wasted charter building moment where Helmut says some messed up shit because of his depression then some kind of messed up mini-boss fight
@tomcarter5037
@tomcarter5037 2 жыл бұрын
@@laok well I mean to be fair we don't hear Truman "arguing" with Bob in the 2nd bottle plus I think it does have to do with his depression put yourself in his well sock you just got married to a man you love, go to war he's assumed dead after said war it would kind of be painful to think of your dead partner
@Gygantis3DRullz
@Gygantis3DRullz 3 жыл бұрын
The best representation of Lgbtq ever.
@novaenforcer1563
@novaenforcer1563 3 жыл бұрын
It was a great scene especialy love the part where this breaks him out of his negative trance
@nurgleGurgell
@nurgleGurgell 3 жыл бұрын
As a queer guy myself, this can drive me to tears
@bloopahVIII
@bloopahVIII 3 жыл бұрын
gay viking
@homoxymoronomatura
@homoxymoronomatura 3 жыл бұрын
Double Fine wanted to honour Techno Viking with this.
@robozardexceptthisisthe3rdnew
@robozardexceptthisisthe3rdnew Жыл бұрын
This is one of the few relationships in media that made me feel something. Not one of the few *gay* relationships, (romantic)relationships in general. I'm not even gay.
@z3ronaut
@z3ronaut 3 жыл бұрын
gay marriage
@Jacob_G9
@Jacob_G9 3 жыл бұрын
Awwww, that's so cute.
@lillily4655
@lillily4655 4 күн бұрын
Perfect queer representation right here, folks.
@Flagella.Cardiac
@Flagella.Cardiac 24 күн бұрын
They need to swap female love interests
@AnimeMe40
@AnimeMe40 2 жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe I didn’t realize they were a couple until I got to that level.
@LuckyLuke_94
@LuckyLuke_94 4 ай бұрын
So Helmut was the top huh
@WarMasterX6
@WarMasterX6 Жыл бұрын
Why does this bring me to tears every fucking time...christ.
@quartzossie
@quartzossie 3 жыл бұрын
Psychonauts 2 says gay rights and consent matters!
@Rockerepico
@Rockerepico 3 жыл бұрын
All gay representation is valid representation, that a more sutile representation makes you feel more comfortable doesn't mean that all the media sould represent gays in a certain way The escene is lovely it's just the comments saying "this is how gay should be presented"
@santicasali8324
@santicasali8324 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some people love gay representation only when gays are off camara only apparently
@wrpen99
@wrpen99 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's not valid if it's obnoxious or harmful.
@rosykindbunny1313
@rosykindbunny1313 Жыл бұрын
I got so teary-eyed at this part. Genuine love at its finest.
@flask223
@flask223 3 жыл бұрын
They’re just good friends
@g00go
@g00go 3 жыл бұрын
historians would say they were roomates
@midgetwaffles8635
@midgetwaffles8635 3 жыл бұрын
@@g00go "oh mah god they were roomates🕶"
@superconsole7619
@superconsole7619 2 жыл бұрын
When I 1st saw this I said "wow that's rare" because I never see this in game history............."that's nice that the developers did this"
@angela.luntian
@angela.luntian 3 жыл бұрын
I havent played this game nor the og (doing a big spoilage on myself rn lmao) but the portrayal of non-normal characters is done best like this. Theyre not mentioned for the sake of mentioning, not talked about for the sake of gossiping, and theyre displayed by the character himself. And when it is displayed, its not obnoxious nor exaggerated. Its not shooting fireworks for itself. Its just them being them.
@stevenjohnson7674
@stevenjohnson7674 3 жыл бұрын
I cried so much going through bob's mind T_T
@notsocuteslime2297
@notsocuteslime2297 3 жыл бұрын
NOT THIS SCENE 😭😭😭😭😭
@vinalrecordxx106
@vinalrecordxx106 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching psychonauts 2: Omg I love this… Sad there isn’t many shi- Helmut x Bob: *Exists* Me: … I HAVE FOUND IT
@nuii700
@nuii700 3 жыл бұрын
man this is heart warming even tho same gender marrige it don't bother me long as theres happyness in le mix
@aeroblu2002
@aeroblu2002 3 жыл бұрын
Love is love :)
@jelanibennett7526
@jelanibennett7526 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful🌈😢
@lucya9162
@lucya9162 3 жыл бұрын
Love this scene 🥰
@belleparsley7797
@belleparsley7797 3 жыл бұрын
Jack black is in a gay marriage
@Nameless10949
@Nameless10949 3 жыл бұрын
they added this to make sure they would win goty
@extremehawk0128
@extremehawk0128 3 жыл бұрын
Based raz
@WarMasterX6
@WarMasterX6 2 жыл бұрын
God this made me cry so hard.
@Alex-fj1ss
@Alex-fj1ss 2 жыл бұрын
I am crying this makes me so happy
@spkspk4187
@spkspk4187 3 жыл бұрын
Im ok with the graphic violence, foul language, toxic online gaming communities, etc.. but teaching children THIS is crossing the line. My kid will not be playing THIS game. Stick to call of duty wholesome real American values.
@AlliedMastercomputer1967
@AlliedMastercomputer1967 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, having a gay relationship is worse than Toxic gaming communities? What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that fans that who will try to rip out anyone’s throats (and themselves) for not doing this thing or running this build and could bully someone to suicide (look up Steven Universe Attempted Suicide controversy) is a lesser evil than a harmless gay couple. Look, I love America and I’m a Christian but for the Love of the Lord, stop being such an idiot.
@chidaluokoro9104
@chidaluokoro9104 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlliedMastercomputer1967 there were joking
@AlliedMastercomputer1967
@AlliedMastercomputer1967 3 жыл бұрын
@@chidaluokoro9104 Fuck me, last year and this year ruined me. (Also, I sorted this by new, which I’ve heard is kinda…bad to put it lightly.)
@theonegoldengryphon
@theonegoldengryphon 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlliedMastercomputer1967 Yeah man, it’s so goddamn hard to separate jokers from people who say stuff like that completely seriously these days. Makes me sad
@spkspk4187
@spkspk4187 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlliedMastercomputer1967 just wanted to let you know Brody yes it is obviously intended to be a joke and I was hoping to also make a point.
@armandostockvideos8386
@armandostockvideos8386 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this was my least favorite mental world, very boring. But I guess gay people found it more interesting.
@20000dino
@20000dino 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like gay people have better taste than you.
@homoxymoronomatura
@homoxymoronomatura 3 жыл бұрын
The parts where Bob's head is carried around by some 'birds' and we need to wait until it reveals stuff hidden under the water are paced down and boring.
@danielfast5506
@danielfast5506 3 жыл бұрын
YES a good gay characther
@TheLetterJ-c8n
@TheLetterJ-c8n 6 ай бұрын
That's disgusting.
@diskdem0n
@diskdem0n 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@buster5661
@buster5661 3 жыл бұрын
It was totally in your face about it too
@NarutoBoruto-tv7jd
@NarutoBoruto-tv7jd Жыл бұрын
So awful cursed
@homoxymoronomatura
@homoxymoronomatura 3 жыл бұрын
Dizgostang!
@cmartin240
@cmartin240 2 жыл бұрын
Wokeness shoved into a game just to check that box. Added nothing to the story and completely irrelevant. Next it will be Doom guy likes the D and Mario's in the closet. At least it was free on Gamepass.
@allenortega9908
@allenortega9908 2 жыл бұрын
button your lip, snowflake.
@neilnordegirl
@neilnordegirl 2 жыл бұрын
by that logic raz and lili being in a relationship isnt needed either i guess! since it really adds nothing to the story and basically nothing major would change if they werent... see how stupid that sounds when i say it in the context of a straight relationship????
@PillarGuy
@PillarGuy Жыл бұрын
There are like 4 relationship plots in this game how is this one forced 💀
@Suggesttt
@Suggesttt Жыл бұрын
More emphasis and thought was put into this than the ending of the game like 1-2 hours later 💀☠
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