PT398 - Graham Hancock - Lost Civilizations, DMT Entities, and Altered States & Early Religion

In this episode, Joe interviews Graham Hancock: legendary bestselling author and writer and presenter of the new Netflix docuseries, “Ancient Apocalypse,” where he travels the world looking for evidence of lost civilizations likely much more advanced than historians previously believed.
Hancock talks about his early books and how ayahuasca influenced his writing; the similarities in cave art and the common link of altered states of consciousness; how integral these states likely were toward the creation of early religion (especially Christianity); how much the annihilation of religious traditions has hidden history; why his and Rupert Sheldrake’s Tedx talks were originally taken offline; new understandings of Neanderthals’ intelligence and creativity; the Quetzalcóatl; and the concept of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis: could there have been an advanced civilization 12,800 years ago that we’re just starting to comprehend? Could it have been Atlantis?
He discusses the conflict with mystery and archaeology’s obsession with scientism and materialist reductionism - that we keep trying to force everything into little boxes of approved science and have lost our imaginations and openness to possibility, especially when you realize how often narratives are built based on interpretations of data rather than facts (since the farther back we go, evidence becomes harder to come by). He believes science needs humility, a willingness to listen to Indigenous history, and a much more open mind when it comes to altered states of consciousness: “I’m convinced we’re missing something important from our past, and if we don’t look for it, we won’t find it.”
For more, head to:
psychedelicstoday.com/2023/03...
grahamhancock.com/
www.netflix.com/title/81211003

[@letsexploreconsciousness]

The first ten minutes of this interview are gold for Hancock fans - giving insight into his origins and early works 👍

[@KimiAvary]

Agreed. Stuff I didn’t know.

[@Questioner365]

Watch out for "Con-sensus P$Yence"

[@kf9926]

Only new Hancock fans didn’t know this ?

[@robertterry3203]

I'm a huge fan of Mr. Hancock. His bravery and determination to continue moving our story forward has led me to do my own part.

[@williammills9796]

Love this interview with the great Graham Hancock. Very well presented, thank you for binging this to youtube, I'm sure many people will watch this and be enlightened. I'm also sure that many people will go on to do their own research on the strength of what's been revealed in this podcast. Well done!!!

[@JordanM-ju9th]

A nice interview with a thread through grahams career! Thank you for your efforts and time.

[@justbe1451]

Great interview, Graham Hancock's insight is always a must listen to. He is the best and the fact his ideas are so threatening to some, makes me understand more. 👍

[@cavemancaveman5190]

Simple explanation for so many things

[@pedrohenriquedeoliveira5601]

thanks for this interview. I feel inspired ❤

[@greghunter6951]

Good questions and good answers

[@Guitar6ty]

Excellent and informative presentation.

[@ninjuhdelic]

banger episode, thanks mate

[@mrmedic2012]

Great interview, I love Graham's work. I have been a follower for some time now. Great stuff!

[@jasonc8910]

Thank you.

[@sophiesunshine7045]

Awesome interview , Graham was on information overload , definately going to listen to this twice my poor brain isn't as sharp as it used to be 😊💚

[@jacquiet6040]

Spreading the ❤🇨🇦 Dinner at friends on Friday. A subject came up that made me bring up Graham. The guests are now all hooked on his videos. I have so much respect and admiration for Graham.🇨🇦

[@gxlorp]

🇻🇦 🇷🇺 🇧🇿 🇮🇱 🇳🇬

[@skincarekemiskhan547]

I am very small person, just dare and dreaming to have conversation with Mr Graham ( sorry for my English) but got a chance to leave my comment 🙏 To invent, to discover - need great passion to work, to love. Out of my million questions will drop here few and hopefully, I will be lucky if my questions will reach you. Questions-what in general your main goal to seek such truth? Do you believe your truthful discovery is going to be helpful for this rotten world? Are you confident about your strength to deliver end discovery to us without any interruption “from the top”? Are you aware of Real power over our decisions/ is it exist? / are you strong enough to defeat opposition toward your work ? Thank you in advance.

[@xXxTeenSplayer]

Oh boy, you are quite confused. Stop listening to charlatans like Graham, and go and study actual science. Start with the hard sciences; math, chemistry, physics. Stop listening to conspiracy theories, they will get you nowhere.

[@andymac345]

I have no idea what your native language is but if I could speak another as well as you I would be very proud. 👍🏻

[@yezetno3602]

My english not good either

[@AngelaPerkins999]

Wonderful questions. I hope you get the answers.

[@eternalism8274]

Awesome!

[@Alison-LoveAndUnity]

Thank you Graham. You have always advocates for non western/eurocentric ideas/thought/interpretation of history which is so important of we sre to understand our world instead of just seeing it through white, middle class eyes. Great work always. We all should have open minds about most things.

[@davidpolaczek3614]

1. Christian mystics/gnostics were Not the earliest Christians. They were a direct branch of the ESSENES which was a mystical sect of Judaism, these were the moles of the catholic church, also knights templars, freemasonry the illuminati Rosecrucianism and the priory of Scion.. these were also the groups that give us not only out modern day media but they also started the outline for modern day academics, including the royal society.... 2. The sun nova-ing on a regular 12000 yr time clock would give us EVERYTHING we see of cataclysmic destruction of the ancient world.. Ice age poleshift glass beads.... the biggest difference between the 2 is fear and control.

[@celsus7979]

Facts aren't 'white' and Hancock's lies are just that

[@chrismarks4927]

Whats with the racial profiling, whats wrong with being white middle class? We are individuals with individual thought, try that with any other race and see what happens

[@paulvonhindenburg4727]

Fascinaging discussion

[@likklej8]

Thanks that knowledge is excellent

[@dignan193]

Been listening to you on guys on the Google podcast app. Just found ya on here. I'm in the middle of this one, thx so much for what you guys do. Always an interesting podcast.

[@PsychedelicsToday]

Thanks! And most people listen on various apps, but it's good to have the option to watch these interviews too

[@amur1197]

Really cool!

[@keysemerson3771]

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing so much.

[@careydixon8189]

Psilocybe semilanceata were transfered to the Pacific NW via British cattle & horses as was my long understanding despite the region has 20+ native species. Look forward to seeing you at PS23 Joe. Be in touch!

[@sharnieeverton9213]

Thanks for having Graham on. It was very distracting that you were looking at your screen and not looking at Graham, quite disrespectful. Please give Graham the attention he so deserves. Love the podcast though.

[@cavemancaveman5190]

The terracing blew my crustal displacement theory to bits

[@roxyk3893]

Awesome podcast, really enjoy Graham Hancocks work.

[@iQ_ui]

Have a good day Sirje

[@brianpeterson5516]

I am a follower of the path of christ. I also have so much respect for Mr. Hancock. I really appreciated what he said between minute 28:30 to 28:58..... no one ever articulates that.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

Jesus hung out with hooker no? I could embrace that path

[@marielouisepoland8501]

Thank you so much, namaste 🙏💖🕉

[@user-sf2ed4ek3c]

I love this man

[@midnightsentry84]

I love Graham, right on for having him on!

[@light-bringer294]

Good for you Graham. Keep going.

[@DHTHORNE]

I would LOVE to interview Graham, and I just subbed to this channel, I am a content creator myself on the subjects of consciousness, magick and more. Very good to see this interview, and fantastic questions. Well done :)

[@gazza6348]

Check out his interviews on Joe rogan will blow your mind him and randall carson you will love it bro

[@user-sf2ed4ek3c]

I wanna trip with the guy

[@jacquiet6040]

I babysat my cousin's kids one time. They were 5 and 7. I asked, what do we do all day that we seldom think about. The oldest said , breathing. I took TM. Told them to be aware of their breath.

[@dranlan8093]

I love his theory i also believe there were advanced civilizations in the past! Sure the one he talk about 12,000 yrs ago probably wasn’t as advanced as us…. But what about 150,000 years ago? 20 millions years ago? 100 millions years ago? There could very well have been one or more advanced civilizations that have since then been destroyed or left hearth to go into space

[@blugreen99]

Theories aren't meant to be loved they are meant to be disproven.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

Fairly impossible anything from a millions of years ago. I do paleo for a museum ... I'm confident it'd be in the fossil if man were around 10's or 100's of millions of years ago.

[@mossadmossad2226]

Fucking legend! 😃

[@bluwtrgypsy]

Graham is such a remarkable man. I just love his work. Thank you

[@cavemancaveman5190]

The power of suggestion I refer to is common. Remember any stories that became memory?

[@chadashleykibler9373]

Keep fighting for truth of life of our ancestors

[@cavemancaveman5190]

Oh my goodness. Time to weigh in. The desire for the power of nightmare in our waking hands has eternal roots

[@jacquiet6040]

I was talking about religion with a friend recently. We discussed there's next to no parishioners We were throwing ideas around what to do with churches and their large properties. NY turned on into a nightclub, years ago, where I danced the night away next to the religious stainless windows. Homeless Centre's. Bulldozed and build Subsidized Housing.

[@davidgough3512]

No bulldozing beautiful architecture. Every dwelling should or could be a temple, just as every body is a temple.

[@MikkelGrumBovin]

I wonder why Hancock wont debate Jason Breshears on the Atlantis dating !? 😮

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

I've been doing ayahuasca since 2006 ... I'd never dare do it in a group ... never felt I need a shaman or anything. Seems too many people feel they need some guru or something. When I trip alone a can take enormous amount and have a great time ... I can hardly do more than a gram of shrooms when in a group

[@redghost6386]

We all know something is wrong but we can't agree on how to fix it.

[@jacquiet6040]

My mom and I went to Bali in 2000. Magical and Mystical things were happening to us. My mom said to me, are you a witch😂. I said, I have no idea what's going on but it's proving there's more than meets the eye.

[@edwardlillicrapp644]

A shame for them water off eucks back dnot get eown about them but be happy for the people you inlighten cheers

[@noonenooneneither3838]

I cant wait to read mr Graham's books and i cant wait Joe to see you in your next podcast. Im spreading my Wings again not belonging to any group of any nation. Sovereign in my psyche. Thank you both. We won the battle Vs the nonsense of kov1D!

[@casamurphy]

Here in southern Colombia at high altitude we don't have the insect problems.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

really, no mosquito issues?

[@Sandra-pu5id]

The geologist "Itchy Boots" went, on a motocycle, to see "atlantis" and proclaimed it to b e natural. This determination rules out a number of situations, but it does not offer an explanation. And naturally occuring rings is certainly different.

[@footballdrills3434]

If Thomas Jefferson's descendant shared information from him in writings today it would be very complete and accurate. 9000 years from now it would still be accurate. This is about the separation in time of Solon and Plato.

[@jacquiet6040]

I saw and heard the corruption of World Vision in Cambodia, as well as the Tsunami in SEA.

[@russellmillar7132]

Some may consider Graham's opinions about ancient art, artifacts, and architecture to be equivalent (or superior) to the interpretations rendered by archaeologists who discovered and excavated these finds. I'm not one of them.

[@cavemancaveman5190]

Engineered farming is the original method.

[@jamesstaggs4160]

Yeah colleges are pretty kuch done with javing students asl questions. They're told exactly what to think and any disagreement is heresy.

[@davemayers9342]

Lets feed ChatGPT some DMT and see what happens 🤣😶‍🌫

[@greghunter6951]

How is investigating shipwrecks called archeology? Sounds like one of those "Oak Island" shows.

[@cavemancaveman5190]

Mining companies profit greatly from harvesting life

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

Right 0n :) QC

[@justanotherfella4585]

DMT on the news today 6:April:’23 (therapeutic). Woohoo!

[@markwinter3840]

I hear the word freedom a lot in these discussions, all I can say is bollocks as I hear the word freedom from individuals who can afford freedom as they see it. The vast majority of people are chained to the master to earn enough money to eat and live under a roof otherwise it is death, to drink a brew in south america would be bliss compared to spending a winter on the streets of the UK. So it is all relative, I would love to buy Graham's books and read them but I have to pay the bills then buy food, my question is when does life start? rhetorical question may it be but when all that lies before you is a wall and no matter where you cast ones gaze all that lies before is that wall then the imaginings of others are but wishful thinking of peoples who will never be given the opportunity to experience that freedom. Maybe a great cataclysm is due or over due so a restart can commence or an end to the suffering of the majority and by extension an end for everything, what I mean is lets be fair about this what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

[@sadhu7191]

I picture dmt iv test subjects after 10 minutes rip iv off, kick door down and run back to 9 to 5 job

[@edwardlillicrapp644]

When people could download from the sorce real sprite not just dogma but cion power greed control

[@sinisterbee01]

Love listening to Graham, such a wise yet humble man but this interviewer is terrible too many ums and no preparation.

[@reinholdbontems5876]

>>ia

[@conantheagrarian]

there’s not enough people to help use these things correctly and they get misused and abused and cause lots of problems for people because of this.

[@m1ck8ynel]

Is the interviewer gonna listen to what he says

[@edwardlillicrapp644]

Probably problem may be thease professor s have memorised past text and collaged peicesbto claim wrote thease as socrotes said to plato the written word would make humans dull dumb i feel maybe eome if not opened to look beyound the books

[@samhowl1152]

Graham is really hanging on to those last two hairs huh? Looks wild

[@eternalism8274]

22:45 omg discussing Stamets re psil in Europe. Stamets, why did you write so carelessly on this topic so as to paint a misimpression of "no Psil in Europe" in your book "Psil Msh of the World"?

[@eternalism8274]

Who was "a famous mycologist" who falsely claimed "no Psil were in Europe"? I'd love to know who's behind this preposterous (and extremely harmful, Prohibtion-basis) claim! I think I have the book Supernatural.

[@PsychedelicsToday]

I have no idea! Hopefully someone who sees your comment has the answer

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

Psil grows everywhere, it's impossible most cultures didn't encounter it when learning the food source available in the environment. Many could have written it of as undesirable poisoning though

[@iQ_ui]

If i told U r my religious then Agree Then u have to carry on one billion my religious good humanity person so bear full of cost, i am agree to camr anyone religious ,dont go back, all r ready

[@chrisryder1073]

The priest was the mediator because the so called divine was the alien entities the Annunaki who colonized earth 12,000 years ago and the priests were their agents

[@Laneline5000]

Next interview you both should take some LSD... see how that goes. Just a recommendation. No pressure.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

sounds awful ... I can only trip solo, even DMT and ayahuasca I think are better solo

[@iQ_ui]

Right We Don't find out past happened Actually reasons, That's way religious Books are graven Fixed generation, Maybe But what's right ones proved,🎉

[@scriming]

Please, respect Graham, as he did so. LOOK at the CAMERA!

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Respect or adulatory? Why put GH on that pedestal? 😂

[@OfficialGOD]

54:00 same space encounter is true, but entities is nothing but your mind Graham.

[@jacobhannibal2452]

How do you know ?

[@janetjacks3406]

It is presumptive to suppose they are created from the mind.

[@josephturner7569]

Of course it is. It's all mind. This reality is an illusion.

[@MegaVero23]

Said with 100% authority. The only thing one can be sure if is that we know very little

[@SurvivorNumber1]

You’re an expert in this field or are you just making this statement without any actual evidence?

[@alexbuckle1085]

A lot of the mystery of our "distant" past has been obscured on purpose to conceal aspects of reality from the general public and even more has been destroyed because it's better that it remains unknown...

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Really? What’s being concealed exactly it has it been successfully concealed & why?

[@byde6673]

Another alternative truth! 😂😂😂😂. Jesus, Jesus…

[@dakrisis]

Been listening to what science has to say for my whole life, never made a religion out of it. Especially the last bit 'sneering' at science for not catering towards the personal experience, taking it into cancel culture territory with a term like 'colonial mindset' is absolutely reprehensible you guys. You are trying to fight an inanimate system that excels in establishing objective facts (without a specific claim in mind beforehand) and adding stuff like subjective experiences will only delude it's effectiveness and credulity. If you want your psychedelics and ancient civilization to be science, just follow the scientific method. It might not give you proof of a claim you already made, but it will give you proof of some kind.

[@nova_4168]

Graham handcocks theories are just bad. Dont get people like Hamilton Morris on your show and this guy,makes hamilton look bad, like his ideas are interesting but his ideas are just false. Theres a whole series about this made by a anthropologist youtuber.

[@edwardlillicrapp644]

And thay have no old text to discli Mb it and no wisdom or blinded ego to make multiple equation peared

[@andymac345]

There’s no cave art of vegetarianism. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MRRookie232]

Graham is amazing but I’m sorry to say that this interviewer comes across as very brusque.

[@jostpuur]

If you want to understand why dinosaurs went extinct, you should check out David Esker's Thick Atmosphere Theory. It was not an asteroid.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

mmm ... the asteroid didn't do it, rather the dust through up in the sky that caused it, though only the non-avian dinosaurs died. Some avian dinosaurs of small size with small precise beaks were able to survive on seeds while the sun was blotted for several years

[@mariam2964]

Oh Graham, as if drawing and quartering by the English wasnt completely barbaric.

[@Questioner365]

Con-sensus P$Yence

[@ana_vita_anastasia_speshilova]

💓Dears❗There is an urgent information about the captured Pleiadian alien from the Galactic Light Federation. He landed in Ukraine to ptevent using the weapon with nuclear component for which he saw the papers been signed in a foreign country for supplying it to Ukraine. and he had been captured and braught to the USA and captured there and after unsucsessful negotiations he been turchered (by depriving him food and amount of oxygen needed for staying alive) him to force the Galactic Federation to give a war technologies in exchange for his life. I do not place links here, so that it is not detected as spam, but there is info in Russian ( from different contacters) which can be listened with automatic translation. His name Griar Murati ( Гриар Мурати ). Ashtar Sheran is aware of this situation. there is a video evidences of the ufo shot in Kyiev

[@WorldWokeApeCult]

Ridiculous. Everyone knows the GLF doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Wow ! Hancock has branched into a new area where he can spout even more drivel and grift to his hearts content. P T BARNUM was right : there will NEVER be a shortage of Rubes !!

[@footballdrills3434]

How about the holocaust wiping out religion?

[@wattsiswhat]

Come on Graham, you know that 6,000 years ago marks the only time that there was a change in human DNA. You know this. Perhaps that's why you chose 6,000 years ago as the number, but you should specify.

[@schalimbis733]

Would you elaborate? Where do you got the idea of genetic change specifically 6k years ago?

[@morsing]

GH is always setting his argument up against what others said to believe and was wrong about. The thing is it’s rarely true. Go check yourself what the others (people working in the specific field) are actually saying. It basically his MO. And have never presented any good evidence of any of his claims about lost advanced civilizations or the other stuff. Before giving GH so much credit, check out the work done by specialists in the field. I know it is hard work, but remember, the ignorant is easily fooled. And the lazy is often ignorant. Don’t listen too much to GH. Take is as entertainment, nothing more.

[@SomagwazaStudio18]

Complete nonsense. Digging in the past and gluing together alternative theories does not mean the theory is true. That's why we have science fiction books. But this trend of new age writers to hypothesize when they themselves are not shamans or initiates is fundamentally wrong. Interview a shaman, not the patient for more credibility.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

Shamans are just people too ... I mean seriously, experience is everything, anyone that's tripped hundreds of times has as good an idea as anyone else ... guides and gurus are for babies

[@dougney3026]

Everyone knows the elite rich control the world from the last World disaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@morsing]

Scientism? What? Talking that way about real hard working people providing the world with actual real knowledge and discoveries. Not nice. Just because they don’t buy the ideas.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Yeah: it’s a lazy & bad faith accusation often betraying projection & persecution. The best scientists are often keenly aware of that pitfall anyway.

[@fullyawakened]

Don't need complete nonsense at any point in my day. bye

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

It's an invitation to demonic posesion. I strongly disagree with his take on Christianity, Catholicism is NOT Biblical Christianity, and early followers of Jesus were not gnostics, they were fishermen and working class people, not philosophers and scholars. Romans later came and created their own blend of church and state adapting their age old peganism, ie witchcraft and mithraic religions, to make it look Christian, but they were never, nor are today Christians. They warship a version of Mary (the moon goddess), not Jesus. It's so sad people think Catholics are Christians, they are not.

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

The process of discovery of our past can be found in the Bible. Genesis 6 opens up saying there were giants in the earth before and after the flood. The fallen angels corrupted human DNA and created the nephilim giants (book of Enoch), so God sent the flood and saved Noah because, and the Bible says it literally, that he was perfect in his generation, meaning his dna was still good, so in order to repopulate mankind Noah was the only guy, and his family, with the original human DNA. The nephilim were the giants of ancient earth, and probably built Atlantis and all those megalithic structures from before God sent the flood to distroy them all. The fallen angels were present when God created the earth, so they knew how God did it, the dimensions, the geometry, everything, and they passed down that knoledge to the egyptians, Greeks, etc. Now, you might think thats crazy, but if you bilieve DMT is an open door to a common consciousness shared by all humans and entities from the other side, could it be possible that's how the fallen angels communicated with those civilizations, explaining the commonality we observe in their history, religion, constructions, and art? And also, could that explain why prayers and miracles work because the power of our prayers is how we hear from God in the way He intended it? God is real, and Jesus died for you to save you from Hell. All this other crap is the works of Satan and his fallen angels. Don't fall for it.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Oh please! Only YOUR beliefs are true? Tragic….

[@tatata1543]

Grifter.

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

probably... for entertainment purposes only

[@MomentsGap]

Critical post- Long following your podcast but I will be unsubscribing. No, not due to Graham. Just listen to the vast differences in vocabulary and eloquence. "Uh,Hmm,Nice ". No intelligent follow ups. No dynamic engagement. Just bro style. It's a disservice to the subject you represent.

[@PsychedelicsToday]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I thought Joe asked some great follow-ups and kept Graham very engaged, and largely just let Graham talk. Also, I wouldn't expect most podcast hosts to be able to keep up with Graham in terms of their vocabulary and how well spoken they are. He's a brilliant writer who has made a living off his words, after all.

[@aaronneal3873]

I really enjoy when Joe is the host. I like his down to earth style and he asks good questions and then gives Graham plenty of time and space to share his brilliance with us. This is one of my favorite episodes, nicely done Joe! 👌🙂

[@WellsTherapeutics]

I love this interview, and I love Joe. And I'd like to point out that Joe recently suffered a traumatic brain injury. We're fortunate that he's still with us, and that he's talking at all!

[@michaelharvey75]

Im subscribing -

[@stayinthevortex]

Then I suggest you go do your own research on your own podcast and ask whatever the hell you want😂😂😂😂

[@4sammyboy]

Hancock,though you do have some good guestions,but you are a new age conman,not impressed by your unbiblical view.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

LOL! Pot, meet kettle…

[@JordanM-ju9th]

A nice interview with a thread through grahams career! Thank you for your efforts and time.