PT4: "YOU ABOUT TO F*** THIS WHOLE ISH UP!!!" HOW JOYNER WAS SCAMMED INTO A BAD RECORD DEAL

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MATH HOFFA

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@Mathhoffa 9 ай бұрын

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@JoynerLucasOfficial 10 ай бұрын

I cannot speak too much on certain things in depth due to certain NDA’s and contracts I signed…. BUT!…. My manager can. 🤷🏾‍♂️ just incase you’re wondering why he keeps cutting me off to speak. He’s protecting me & giving yal the full scope & free game at the same time.

@Dukesports6881 10 ай бұрын

Real ones know Joyner 💯

@eam3618 10 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking, can't wait to watch the full interview, been bumping you since, "along came Joyner"

@mack-fm9yb 10 ай бұрын

Don’t do the interview lame

@mack-fm9yb 10 ай бұрын

They might as well just interview him instead and not Joyner

@NickSevereMusic 10 ай бұрын

Smart. Good management/friend

@illasoul 10 ай бұрын

Joyner signed an NDA and his friend didn’t so he’s stopping Joyner from speaking so he won’t break the contract by saying something he’s not supposed to say. That’s a real friend right there aside from the business. He’s actually helping more than harming Joyner

@200FLAIR 10 ай бұрын

They lost they don’t get it 💯💯

@HarlemsFinest85 9 ай бұрын

@@200FLAIR that's the comment section for you. Always think they know more than the people actually doing it.

@200FLAIR 9 ай бұрын

@@HarlemsFinest85 And that’s on Mary had a little lamb😂 ♐️💨

@demondrewilliams5111 9 ай бұрын

Facts bro

@MyPpisbiggerthanyours 9 ай бұрын

This should be pinned cause people stupid!!! Bruh

@sstelevision6376 10 ай бұрын

Joyner was ready to just rush through to the end of the story I’m actually glad the manager was there because he painted such a vivid picture of the tension in those rooms, and the red flags to look out for. And you know it’s facts because Joyner was able to join in at certain points and add in details seamlessly. Dude ain’t trynna get clout he just making sure the situation is properly documented and that may help another artist in a similar situation later.

@seandon9515 10 ай бұрын

Thanks bro it’s some game in there that people are annoyed by somehow lol

@isaiah3300 9 ай бұрын

Once ya man’s/manager look like Colin Kaepernick he got ya best interest at heart 💯🤣🤣🤣 no cap

@Mathhoffa 9 ай бұрын

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@bzzyog 10 ай бұрын

Notice how quiet Mecca is

@manewtshikiel2648 10 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. When Joyner called Sha a Dinosaur I immediately thought about Mec cause he swears he knows the industry with that old way of thinking

@efon9626 10 ай бұрын

For those saying who’s interview is this. Thats his man and trusted friend. Joyner could’ve went up there by himself. He didnt want to, joyner is giving input when necessary. I would do the same thing! 🤷🏾

@christopherholmes6354 9 ай бұрын

RNS

@jeremymarable3657 10 ай бұрын

It sounds like Sha is doing dirty business. Why are people mad at his manager/friend? He was looking out for Joyner's best interest

@Mathhoffa 10 ай бұрын

🤷🏽

@lamonteplays 10 ай бұрын

they were mad at his manager friend because he looked out for joyner lol, the artist is the target. music business is dirty business

@urbanflavorz 10 ай бұрын

yall ninjas always claimin its a bad deal. Its always a bad deal after the artist blows up and spent all their money.

@eddy562 10 ай бұрын

Sha was doing what any established music person would do lol. That is the essence & standard practice in a dirty game

@730holdings2 10 ай бұрын

he was just brokering a deal you should be expecting that. Its like having an agent its up to you to make the decision ultimately they're just council / have the connections.

@TheMiG96 10 ай бұрын

Got lawyers watching lawyers so I won't go broke ...

@Amelie-eh3jc 10 ай бұрын

Your vibe is infectious, love watching your content!

@Livefromthewhytehouse 10 ай бұрын

Manager don’t want Joyner to talk the bs, he’ll do the dirt; ya see it as shine but he tryin to do the dirt for him

@MrMakemusicmike 10 ай бұрын

bingo

@flyshitonly24 9 ай бұрын

🎯

@jamieaubry8078 9 ай бұрын

Initially im telling the manager..shhh... i read the room..and now im like..shh Joyner..let him cook.😂😂❤ great interview

@styles430 9 ай бұрын

Already had a ton of respect for Joyner, this gives me even more. Love that you’re exposing the “sham,” I’m not in the music industry so this type of stuff is always super interesting to me. Joyner 👍 keep winning, new album is 🔥🔥🔥

@lambcast 10 ай бұрын

Always use your own lawyer.

@Mathhoffa 10 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@Theoddcharacter 10 ай бұрын

Yeah not manager who thinks he's one😆😆how you overlooking contracts and your not an entertainment lawyer???☠️dude wanna wear every cap 😆😆😆

@lamonteplays 10 ай бұрын

@@Theoddcharacteryou missed it. it wasn't the manager, the other manager brought in a bad lawyer to fuck over joyner. lambcast is saying, joyner should have vet his owner lawyer that's willing to meet with him etc.. this dude came on to the signing and that's it, his purpose was to fuck over artists. The manager just wanted the co-sign bag for fucking over joyner using his own lawyer that cut him in on the deal lol it's a fucked up game

@Theoddcharacter 10 ай бұрын

That manager dude wants to be in everything like water 😆😆dude said himself he was looking or trying to see contracts and if he brought a bad lawyer that's even more worst 😆I never seen any other artist with a manager like this that want to be all in everything

@josephb11308 10 ай бұрын

@YungSuave 10 ай бұрын

Great conversation and information ℹ️

@HookahAnonymous 10 ай бұрын

Now just think how many young artists that dont know no better, Get caught up in this vicious cycle. This been going on for YEARS. ALWAYS hire your OWN attorney. Why would you ever trust an attorney given to you by someone trying to make money off you?

@DreCloud 9 ай бұрын

As soon as SHA said: "You 'gon fuck this up!" I was like: "For who??"🤔

@huetv8840 10 ай бұрын

Whoever doesn’t like the fact his manager is speaking up for him at times, don’t understand business. Joyner can’t talk about certain shit! So deeply listen to his manager smh

@bathowstandrews4507 9 ай бұрын

Mahn! This is real game, esp fot those eyeing the industry. Cant wait for the whole interview

@jlang7975 9 ай бұрын

I like the manager!🙏🏿seems like a good dude

@finnessejets4231 10 ай бұрын

Contracts are never in favor of the artist, unless you have a hella of a legal team.

@nicolematthews4420 9 ай бұрын

Even if you got a hell of a legal team they're still going to be things in that contract that has you not being able to say things not being able to give money to certain people not being able to really impact the community from which you come from!!

@KingpenSlim 10 ай бұрын

Why Mecca quiet ?

@OutcoldFella 9 ай бұрын

Lol 🤣 Joyner Lucas couldnt hardly get a word out his manager just keep on cutting him off everytime he speak while he doin all tha talking Im tha Manager let me do all tha talking lol 😅

@manewtshikiel2648 10 ай бұрын

Yo Math, I NEVER seen your Boy Mec so quiet. I wonder why 🤔🤔 I think when Joyner called Sha a Dinosaur that shit hit home 🤣🤣🤣

@coldblooded568 10 ай бұрын

I don't get it. Mecca was offended?

@coldblooded568 10 ай бұрын

Can you explain? @@lexanderPierre

@flyshitonly24 9 ай бұрын

😂

@MaatSatya7 9 ай бұрын

I definitely noticed the shift during the Sha segment.

@mikenomics1014 9 ай бұрын

Wow...every segment of this story got me hooked. Real life cautionary tale

@AllanRavynPhoenix 10 ай бұрын

Real Talk @MathHoffa I love that you do the clips but I've never been more mad at you not dropping the whole Gem for us LOL

@topshelfcbd8617 10 ай бұрын

This is a dope episode cant wait for the full one. Why everyone mad at the manager tho? His input helps paint the story of what happened.

@soupadoopafly 9 ай бұрын

"are you a lawyer?!" Is epic...

@ochomunna270 10 ай бұрын

Sha Money XL is grimey yo! And he was just on Math Hoffa acting like a good dude, talking all that positivity while been a sucker. 😂😂

@celebneilz1023 10 ай бұрын

He brought them to the label , he not grimey , they just wasnt hip to the game

@SPM-tv 9 ай бұрын

@@celebneilz1023he said the contract was good when it wasn’t thats certified grimey

@LadellParks 10 ай бұрын

Aye as a writer I fucks with Joyner Manager, he tells the story so well I'm invested at this point. I kinda don't like these part 1, part 2 type interviews but other then that it's cool.

@stilesjohnson1745 9 ай бұрын

Representation people the guy next to Joyner is very important. Keeps Joyner from saying things that can because against him. Industry wicked hope these artists stay independent.

@Chris7820 9 ай бұрын

Aye Drew solid asl no diddy loyalty is priceless 🤞🏾

@PurplePaperTimBoss 10 ай бұрын

Fuckkkkkk i was locked innnn 👀👀👀PAUZE !! Mathhhh u can’t be this way mannnn haha SO 2 y’all 💯🫡😂

@BloodyOrange 10 ай бұрын

I can't wait to watch the full interview...

@seandon9515 10 ай бұрын

Instead of saying something about his manager just listen it’s some game in there.

@makinmuzic456 10 ай бұрын

What game? Stop, he's long winded.

@Defarenaches 9 ай бұрын

@@makinmuzic456sometimes, The Details is in the long winded speech.

@erichood7980 10 ай бұрын

If this dude say hold on one more time let the artist speak

@reedirokaj 10 ай бұрын

NDA

@mack-fm9yb 10 ай бұрын

So? Don’t do the interview

@reedirokaj 10 ай бұрын

@@mack-fm9yb why? Bro wants the truth out there he just can’t be the one to say it😂

@D1NOnlyJonJ 10 ай бұрын

He is protecting him at all cost like a real one should.

@abrahamforGod 10 ай бұрын

Bruh his Manager definitely on something, like Calm down your there because Joyner is there, not other way around! Yo Math stop these dudes from over talking the “MAIN GUEST”

@reedirokaj 10 ай бұрын

Joyner said in the comment section that he can’t say certain things bc he signed an NDA that’s why his manager is speaking for him to protect him

@mr.cool-ice 10 ай бұрын

Nah bro, Joyner is there because of this man. He's been with him through thick and thin.

@Defarenaches 9 ай бұрын

Surface level of understanding 😅 when 21 savage was on the podcast, his manager was interupting before 21 gets a word in. He is protecting him from saying whats uncessary

@jamesodari4983 9 ай бұрын

I watched the whole podcasts, all i know is drew got his hommies back.

@Mandown21 10 ай бұрын

Joyner Lucas is 🔥

@Mrtragicreality146 10 ай бұрын

Bro not letting Joyner say shit SMH 🤦🏾 dude we don't know you champ!!

@kphresh121 10 ай бұрын

Joyner said they made him sign a NDA so he cant speak on it fr, thats why the manager doing it

@RashaunDaKid1 10 ай бұрын

On God!!!

@Boom38119 10 ай бұрын

@@kphresh121 didnt hear that part. which segment he said that bc the mgr was really pissing me off?...lol

@Mrtragicreality146 10 ай бұрын

@@kphresh121 yeah we heard that but he still not letting bro talk SMH

@glowupwithelon 9 ай бұрын

@@Boom38119he left a comment at the top saying he signed a NDA so he let his manager tell the story because he didn’t signed a NDA.

@DJChaseTV 10 ай бұрын

Its amazing to me - artists never take accountability for anything

@rikers263 10 ай бұрын

Great interview, the manager is very involved which is why they had to do the divide and conquer. This is wild but yep, this is how it goes down most of the time. S/o Theo, used him many times in the past.

@JoeW-c2n 10 ай бұрын

The edit & timing at end was too cold !

@derrickwest89 10 ай бұрын

Not a NDA it’s an open case so he can’t directly speak about the details or say anything negative about Sha

@glowupwithelon 9 ай бұрын

Joyner left a comment up at the top saying it’s a NDA in place that’s why he can’t talk too much.

@RKentish94 10 ай бұрын

The music business is mad shady, these deals only hurt artists

@SurvivingGigs 10 ай бұрын

Finally stopped forcing his music on us !

@Theoddcharacter 10 ай бұрын

😆😆😆😆dudes get a buzz off of podcasts then think they can slide in they music not realizing ppl aren't into they music like that😆😆

@edmundjackson4665 10 ай бұрын

It's was actually growing on me *pause*

@Rhymezkid 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@p__kingg 10 ай бұрын

Fr tho...Name someone in your life who EVER said " a yoooo pass the aux im bout to play this new joyner Lucas" or "you heard that new Joyner lucas"??...DOGG... If i wasnt such a big KZbin head id of never known this 🥷🏾 exists. BUT THE ALGORITHMS... Callabs with EM. and mad other famous ppl.. I always felt like i was being forced to listen to him And LEMME TELL YOU. EACH TIME I FINALLY DID..... Straight BASURA... STRAIGHT CHEEKS... Garbage 🗑️ JUICE. 🚮🚮

@arkitekbeatzify 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@jorgevelez2458 10 ай бұрын

longest explanation ever. that usually means there's some bullshit in there somewhere. good luck Joyner. Vultures are everywhere.

@nicolematthews4420 9 ай бұрын

They've cut your attention span that you're missing the details in the conversation if you're paying attention to the minutes running not what's actually being discussed..Saddd

@jorgevelez2458 9 ай бұрын

@@nicolematthews4420 use punctuation so that shit makes sense

@johnhurd4878 10 ай бұрын

I don’t wanna give this video a thumbs up I’m a need to watch this in it’s entirety.

@nicolematthews4420 9 ай бұрын

👀 but you could have done that without having to leave a comment so why not give the video a thumbs up if you're commenting on the video smh yal be lost in the sauce

@tonymontez2358 10 ай бұрын

At this point we live in the era where artists and rappers don’t even need to be signed to a label to make it

@nicolematthews4420 9 ай бұрын

We've been in that era sweetie we just wasn't wise enough to see it

@sodadecounty7414 10 ай бұрын

Is this Joyner interview or his?? Lmaoo

@KiingTRell 10 ай бұрын

Right

@reedirokaj 10 ай бұрын

Joyner signed an NDA bud

@glowupwithelon 9 ай бұрын

Joyner left a comment at the top saying he can’t much due to NDA

@illasoul 10 ай бұрын

For everyone that keeps talking about the manager talking more than Joyner, he could be under contract where he can’t say too much but the manager isn’t under contract where he is limited so that’s why the manager is probably talking more than Joyner.

@illasoul 10 ай бұрын

@JDHleo Joyner just confirmed it himself under the new video that math just put out.

@artleecreative 10 ай бұрын

The manager should never be allowed to do interviews with Joyner ever again! I can’t even force myself to watch the clips or the full interview because I hardly hear Joyner speak. SMH

@wjw7127 10 ай бұрын

I'd rather hear the manager speak

@mikep11218 10 ай бұрын

We are here for information, which the manager is providing very valuable information. Take that BS celebrity worship elsewhere, bro. We don't do that nonsense over here. We value knowledge, wisdom, game. No matter who it comes from.

@BelovedBrotha 10 ай бұрын

Hold on hold on hold on . Wait wait wait. Hold on the whole interview 🤦🏾‍♂️

@realah9820 10 ай бұрын

The manager a real one

@leftyrhymes9880 10 ай бұрын

I bet he was like, please let me tell the story, I got the struggle look, smh what’s next, he gonna be featured on your album? That cat was basura barracuda, we don’t care if he is a better story teller than you, we don’t know that man or care to know that man. We want to know Joyner Lucas not Joyner Lucas friend who came to your rescue, you can tell the story how he came to your rescue by yourself while he sits there mouth shut..

@locochubbz9647 9 ай бұрын

joyner really took over the 508 all love

@Dukesports6881 10 ай бұрын

Crazy I watched that live that he signed that contract. I had no idea it went down like that

@allenbrown8888 9 ай бұрын

I think the guy was asking if you were a lawyer not only to get you defensive but to see if you know where to look in the contact for NDA's, incentives, "insurances" and see if you can catch the legal jargon of we are screwing u over just let it happen

@youngair24 10 ай бұрын

Anyone who walks around looking like that loves attention

@OmarScruggs 9 ай бұрын

Odd considering most ppl who look like that are usually ppl who dont care about looking fresh and like they have money. Usually how hippies and homeless look. And Jesus. But yeah I guess he wants attention

@gottech5601 10 ай бұрын

How do the lawyer gets paid off the deal or do they have to pay him upfront to do the deal?

@nickprice7088 10 ай бұрын

They ain’t sayin nothin 😂

@SigSoto 9 ай бұрын

Good thing he didn’t sign with interscope he would have never released music till 2030 😂

@TingEnsley 9 ай бұрын

Dese record companies been fucking over us for decades, We be to embarrassed to tell our story. Joyner is a real 1 for being transparent and exposing dese dirty tactics from these record companies

@urbanflavorz 10 ай бұрын

Typical artist fakin after they spent the money and got famous. Then they claim it was a bad contract and they could have gotten big without the label. Everybody says that afterwards.

@nicolematthews4420 9 ай бұрын

Typical consumer assuming😂😂😂 that all artists are created equal

@urbanflavorz 9 ай бұрын

@@nicolematthews4420 typical consumer assuming the artist are being taking advantage of after they spend their money.

@kengtachala1867 10 ай бұрын

I believe 50 now

@mikaeldmontalvo 10 ай бұрын

No more bad intros lol

@TheTeslaTy500Show 10 ай бұрын

Hoffa Gang

@tedrstedrs6690 10 ай бұрын

Dude hurry up and tell the story

@byronp8158 10 ай бұрын

This is not live. He won't speed it up because it's recorded!..

@ericrowland3246 10 ай бұрын

Joyner manager doesn’t want to tell the punch line he just wants to tell you everything that lead to it smh

@YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet 10 ай бұрын

It's an interview... and this is a clip...yall saying anything lol

@MrSpanishmike310 10 ай бұрын

At this point every artist seems to have the same story always bring your own laywers

@DivineNiiji 9 ай бұрын

These labels is nasty work man smh

@reboot4357 9 ай бұрын

Go listen to Scientology by rick ross. He mentions sotomayor as a snake.

@BlockCaptain90 10 ай бұрын

Big hair dude kept it solid & i hope Joyner keeps the same energy as he gets bigger 💯 .. no diddy❌️ Never change on people that led you to the point where victory was at hand. Rather help build em up to be better, that'll give you stronger soldiers & strengthen loyalties when they know you could've left em at any point. Math This episode made me miss having E$$o & Hynaken on the show. Yall as a collective had an undeniable energy. Yes Mecca is a journalist and has great questions & views but Es' came with management & road experience and has questions no one else would think to ask... i miss the old show smh. s/o Bigga, man of god! 🇿🇦 in this!!!

@Pnaliza 10 ай бұрын

Can you strop with these2min clips

@trueOGseries 10 ай бұрын

This dude long winded af. Just tell the story uuugghh!!!!

@chloejay8199 10 ай бұрын

So fif said sha was moving wocky now JL saying it smh cmon sha

@WilliamGone 10 ай бұрын

I know people don’t like dude with Lion O hair but he has a great perspective just listen and stop judging

@tedgraham6548 9 ай бұрын

To read what Joyner said in the comment section. I’m wondering if this is really an interview or a conversation to expose someone.

@JGreen-tz6km 9 ай бұрын

Math not feeling his manager

@BsGaming732 10 ай бұрын

I don’t like this guy who’s with Joyner. Gives weird vibes. It’s like he wants to show his face more than Joyners. They literally go back and forth on who gets to talk. Then the manager tries to talk over Joyner. Next time please 🙏🏽 he can sit on the sideline or something 😂

@organikmack3975 9 ай бұрын

Bottom line, Joyner is the star, not the manager. Balance is key. Although keenly knowledgeable of Joyner’s ENTIRE situation, was doing way too much, over-talking the ENTIRE room. Artists come on Math’s show all the time with there teams. But the teams TEND to understand their lane. There were MANY times Joyner was trying to talk, and Drew keeps interrupting him, not even letting him complete a sentence. You can ABSOLUTELY see Mecca and Math were little frustrated. Mecca at point loudly asks for Joyner to finish his point. Like, “I wanna hear what JOYNER has to say, not you…” 🤷🏾‍♂️

@drewhussle9664 10 ай бұрын

His homey talk to much, it's s a joyner interview? Smh dudes like that gotta be watched, they wanna be seen and heard bcz they feel left out of the success, dude stfu and collect money and let joyner tell his story

@smoovpauly450 10 ай бұрын

Cardan pt 3?

@absalompiankhitv 10 ай бұрын

Errbody keep using this NDA as an excuse 😂 I mean Lucas is a beast 🔥 i cant lie but what happened to all that Independent talk seems like they got desperate and if you signed a deal where u cant speak on Bizness it probably was a shitty deal from the jump... seems like they clip themselves in the foot ? Plus the Manager talk way too much who he trying be Nip 😂

@g-smooth5133 10 ай бұрын

Why even sign to a label at this point🤔

@MagzUpBr33zy 9 ай бұрын

Mecca is asking the important questions here. The manager sounds like he’s still learning some of the twists and tricks, but he def seems like a genuine guy, supporting Joyner

@bleedwolf5 10 ай бұрын

50 cent warned y'all about Sha Money XL!

@Conversations857 10 ай бұрын

Turn back up Hoffa!!

@jhonathanreed1465 10 ай бұрын

All this talking over each other is ridiculous.

@stringerbellholloway2888 10 ай бұрын

Is this a Joyner interview or The Hair Bear’s?? He interrupts everyone but won’t let nobody cut him off

@BeFreeIsMe 10 ай бұрын

For the people talking shit about the manager, if you’re an artist or producer, you actually WANT someone who is going to fight for you and be on top of shit like him.