PT9:"THE MOST GANGSTA THING 50 CENT CAN DO IS..." DEE-1 ON WHAT 50 CENT SHOULD DO

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[@shaundasmith7765]

He's talking about changing his perspective on his past. Not deny his past.

[@e.double563]

Why can't the past be the past?

[@socialpublisher123]

@@e.double563 When your past is broadcasted in the media and is archived in the form of songs that can be heard over and over again, it's not the past anymore.

[@joncan1942]

He is talking from a place of Maturity. Maturity is an animal we don't always want to explain, embrace or understand.

[@janaikemp9081]

True. Yet isn't 50 showing how he matured, and maintained a career where he was authentic yet respected in where he came from and in the corporate level. Shoudnt the life speak for itself? He may troll, but he ain't out here like a lot of other 40 year olds still repping and talking about who snitched. I'm just saying, he speaks of his past mistakes, what he learned, and how he grew. That speaks volumes. You gotta at least acknowledge that. I think Dee1 wants it done the way he feels is best. Instead put the young ones on to how 50 grew. You teach at a college. Show them.

[@infamousprince88]

@@joncan1942 that doesn’t appear to be talking from a place of maturity. It appears to be talking from a place of revisionist history. Maturity is reconciling and forgiving yourself for your past actions whether or whether not you now think differently of the actions. Bec you don’t really know the calculus involved in those past situations anymore. You can only understand them from a much simpler math, a black and white perspective

[@qunyc1403]

Math ain't ready...he gon wake up one day hopefully

[@camfreed9829]

Math is/was a battle rapper man. If there is a mind that is NOT ready for this change, it’s a battle rapper lol

[@Casino845]

He is justifying because his past is causing him remorse and he is beating himself up everyday. Some can't stomach the wrong they did when they was younger. Maff probably can't kick the remorse or live with the remorse.

[@shaundasmith7765]

I think he knows. He just tryna be PC.

[@LeveledHeadGamer]

When you like being dirty .. you fear water and soap. Math loves dirt. DEE 1 is soap and water to him. Plan and simple

[@rockyward6758]

If dirt fed you and got you wherever you are in your life then it’s nothing wrong with dirt.. Math and Dee 1 are both successful men.. Soap and Water didn’t put Dee past Math

[@LeveledHeadGamer]

@rockyward6758 My post went over your head... Math isn't in the streets any more, honestly he may have never been in the streets like he claims he was at all, and he's definitely not where he is today because of the streets.. Math likes the image and the attention that appearing street (Dirt) brings.. so he glorifies it because that's his whole image. So no, he doesn't like Dee 1's Soap and Water (Accountability) because he doesn't know how to make real accountability look appealing.. It's much easier to flip and flop in the dirt.. all these 40 and 50 yr old men are still glorifying criminality, still sagging, trying to look street like they still posted up on the block.. is sad. Plus, that's easier than what Dee 1 is doing. You can't market what Dee 1 is doing.. That's why those like Math fears Dee 1

[@rockyward6758]

@@LeveledHeadGamer Bro nothing went over my head my guy.. He fears Dee 1 so much he invited him to his platform? Do you know math personally or you just on here making assumptions?

[@socialpublisher123]

@@rockyward6758 When the dirt that fed you is presented in the form of songs that can be played over and over again by impressionable youth, it's an issue.

[@LeveledHeadGamer]

@rockyward6758 bro stop acting like you didn't understand me.. you acting like Math lol. Math fears Dee 1's message and the accountability that comes with it. Yes, he invited him on his show to press him, but he did a horrible job and made himself look ignorant in the process.. do I know Math? No .. do you? Nope.. so we both assumed, but I bet my assumptions are closer to facts.. Math may have dabbled in the streets.. but it's probably more exaggerated than what act was the case.. but he not in the streets now, so why fight to glorify something that undermines our youth and communities? Thats ignorance period

[@orangemarley5086]

Math suffers from ninja logic. Telling a story and glorifying negativity is something completely different. Doing something out of survival and ignorance isn’t the same as promoting the lifestyle that cause you to kill or be almost be killed.

[@vic9844]

exactly

[@tjinks7530]

LMMFAO

[@e.double563]

So I guess slyvester Stallone suffers from the same. He's offing ppl at 70 in shows

[@dawb86]

@e.double563 Sylvester Stallone playing special ops characters going on exotic missions across the globe, that’s obvious fantasy shit. What come off as make believe to you about Menace to Society, Belly, or Power? These motherfuckers are straight exploiting us, bro…..

[@wraithyoshidj6702]

He is not too bright and educated

[@joncan1942]

Maturity is a difficult thing to embrace. Once you embrace it, you mature.

[@dubsacktrax9532]

Math is feeling attacked instead of being open minded

[@anonymouslakernerd7214]

I like this young cat. Don't know his music at all, but I'm definitely going to look him up.

[@biggmixxo]

Yea he's dope

[@betterdays29]

check out the song he got with lupe and big krit

[@robisaacs3713]

Ohh word!!!Krit and Lupe?!?! I'm checking that right now..an I'm a NY ninja

[@Mayo2014]

He born in 1985 ( 39 ) he not that young

[@ZYaKnoe249]

His music sucks

[@brandonmaryland]

1:51 I know dudes that lived in the hood knew all the gangbangers but never got involved in the streets and have great lives. So all that I’m from the Hood and I had no other choice that’s all cap.😂😂

[@Mayo2014]

Exactly !!!! Thank you for saying this my guy

[@brandonmaryland]

@@Mayo2014 are you a liberal? Just asking

[@dsword456]

​​@@brandonmarylandLiberals make excuses & have little to no accountability.. That's why that party celebrates deleting unborn children

[@dsword456]

Amen, sir

[@carlmiller8384]

Exactly! Thank you for saying this My guy

[@skorwolf2719]

Does Dee have his own podcast cus this would be a great conversation if we exclude math

[@boysallah6744]

Math is great whether you like it or not

[@Rawreson101]

Yea Dee recently kind of started his own podcast just tlkn to the camera. Just peep Dee1s youtube page hes uploaded a few

[@skorwolf2719]

@@boysallah6744 well I'll choose not he's making this conversation sound ridiculous

[@Sammy-em1pq]

Interview would be WHOLE lot better if math would've took backseat n let mecca control this interview.

[@camfreed9829]

Na we needed to see this meeting of the minds. Math is a battle rapper. That is at the ORIGIN of street rap, gun lyrics, m@rder lyrics, etc. a battle rappers mind is EXACTLY what is at the opposition of what Dee-1 talks about. One of the things that sent Loaded Lux into into the hall of fame for battle rap is that he fully transitioned from a mind based on m@rder to a mind based on TEACHING, story telling and keeping it REAL

[@dsword456]

That's his guilty sinful conscious got him all up in arms like that...Truth hurts

[@seankilliano5781]

i think we need all of them on the front seat to get a ballance ...

[@kevwaters101]

They're picking opposite sides on purpose. Just like any other podcasts. It makes it more interesting

[@camfreed9829]

@@kevwaters101 I mean for sure…but let’s be honest. Math is a former battle rapper. His foundation is battle rap. He supports battle rap. He doesn’t really have to “try” to be on the opposing side of what Dee-1 is saying…he is by default

[@shoptalkconvo-mak1471]

Math is exposing his maturity level

[@Apol-los]

Keep promoting The Way, The Truth, and The Life that is found in Jesus Christ. Thank you Dee 1 🙏🏻

[@tavonjones4669]

Math playing victim kills me 😂😂😂😂

[@BlackSkins-il7ch]

Rappers as leaders is wild😂

[@socialpublisher123]

Rappers are storytellers and storytelling affects listeners differently.

[@shaundasmith7765]

Anyone with a mic or playform is automatically.

[@thetruthreturns1969]

50 cent has changed and revamp his career, he became a comedian to a certain degree given people more opportunities telling stories as far as tv shows wise he's not staying stagnant

[@efoniemedlock368]

I get where Math is coming from, i never met him and he seems like he is a stand up dude, but wen he says these youngsters need guidance, i think that's wat Dee 1 is trying to give but if you take the guidance as judgement, then its like you're refusing to accept it. Just my opinion.

[@Wizznilliam]

Exactly. They want the guidance that makes them feel good about the bad things that they they did/doing.

[@mistermiller6230]

Confusing accountability with judgement is an easy way not to be accountable

[@carlmiller8384]

@@mistermiller6230and Math is not ready to take accountability and responsibility

[@SunniMerlot]

@@carlmiller8384at all

[@KeizeShow]

Real talk! 50 says he stays sober but constantly promotes alcohol brands. I respect his business mentality tho. He plays the game well

[@Mayo2014]

Not everyone from the hood , is HOOD math cmon , you old enough to know that … if all you know and respect is street dudes you are sad my man

[@Dipset415]

Bingo the hood breed different

[@Dtown3thirteen]

I think sometime Math wants to keep the conversation going, but he does it in a way that makes him sound ignorant at times. Sometimes the conversation can keep going with brothas having a positive cypher going and having good conversation.

[@Sammy-em1pq]

Math listening to REPLY N NOT TOO COMPREHEND

[@SunniMerlot]

100%

[@velikapo4419]

THIS IS A DOPE CONVO!!! Math Ain't Mathin' It Right!!! 👏🏾

[@montanajames9144]

50 life speaks for its self. Of course he doesn’t operate on those same street rules, but u never forget ur past.

[@georgedylan7901]

My Expert Excuses

[@shaundasmith7765]

Good one 😅 or My Expert Deflection lol

[@diddy2612]

Math trying his hardest to justify committing crimes is wild

[@mwiggins4969]

You can tell that type of time and talk that Dee is on is NOT registering with Math. Once he matures in that way, he’ll understand in retrospect. Keep doing it Dee!

[@Reatha-zj2lw]

Your vibe is infectious, love watching your content!

[@zulu2523]

CHAMP would have been the perfect person to talk on this matter

[@chaunt100]

And BIGGA

[@BlOoDr3DxViSiOn]

Back in the day, stories are being told everywhere from the beginning until now. Stories are always going to be told. Let’s keep that real.🤔evolve 🫡🙏🏿

[@Bdphonorat]

Love the convo

[@NuSkwel]

FACTS!!!!! What does Math not get or see, about the choices you make on what you want to talk/rap about

[@aaronjohnson6622]

It's cognitive dissonance on Maths behalf, which is to know and not know at the same time. He knows that getting on a mic and saying " I sell drugs, I will shoot you" is bad but he will jusyify it to make him feel better. Smokers fo the same thing. "We're all gonna die sometime" and so on

[@majorant102]

Salute my brother 🙏🏾 💯

[@jahairl227]

Wonderful discussion. Food for thought.

[@jonapp1497]

Thank You Mec! 💪🏾

[@aightmanchannel]

Bro 50 literally said all that in his books. If you read them, he speak about how his environments and perspectives change on things but his morals are still rooted in his upbringing & things he’s experienced

[@user-vx9sb1wf6u]

Thanks!

[@gwiz2970]

I love these conversations..

[@saalih19]

Wow. MATH is a master deflector…This boy is fully cognitive dissonance. He creating any and all loopholes possible to disagree on top of it trying to make it , sound intelligent.😂 D’s Message is easy to understand yet this boy talking about judgment…

[@bambinothevoice29]

I got mad respect for the bawl DEE 1 💪🏾💪🏾👑

[@ZYaKnoe249]

Dee 1 is preaching, his message sounds good but he’ll never get past just sounding like a “holier than thou”

[@camfreed9829]

What would you do?

[@robertfoster6940]

Real talk, he's not even doing that...he's just disagreeing with niggas. People don't like his stance on things. But I've yet to see anyone really challenge what he's saying without deflecting to calling hom corny or too holy. I'm not a christian, but the dude is just speaking common sense tbh.

[@jonidec95]

At some point we are going to have to understand that a lot of these verses are spoken from a place of defense!! An entire album full of murderous lyrics could all point it the same message DONT TRY ME

[@darylebarnes4300]

Jay z made an album dropping jewels but you don't hear about it

[@hizzlerizzletv]

I like this podcast. It is one of the best out. Big Up Math, for putting in that work. And I get that you feel the need to put in your 2 pennies, but sometimes silence is the best way to contribute. "The ability to speak, does not make you intelligent."

[@juliozuniga9427]

Love this show, love the interviews, love the different points of view but Think Math needs more time to evolve to understand where Dee 1 and Mecca are coming from on their perspective. It took me time to understand that about myself with time, my hands still feel dirty but trying to do right now and continue to in life...... there's always a better way to move with the same results without killing yourself inside. All Love to Math, Mecca, and Dee 1 for speaking on this issue 👍

[@e.double563]

Not everyone is going to go on the same path. What you go through in life is your particular journey.

[@SelahShalom]

Can you judge another man's choice 🎯 powerful statement 💪🏾

[@earhustler08]

Yes, you can.....It happens every day in all parts of society. Drake vs. Kendrick, Will vs. Chris Rock, Diddy vs. Cassie, etc etc etc etc etc.....

[@shaundasmith7765]

@@earhustler08 and court, school, banks, mortgage companies, credit bureaus, the list goes on and on.

[@earhustler08]

@@shaundasmith7765 🎯🎯🎯💯

[@chrischristopher6038]

The Messiah didn't find a way to relate to the people, he spoke to them so that they could relate to him and the Holy Message!

[@angelortiz-fc8sq]

Right after all the explanations about, it’s not judging, it’s accountability Math goes right back about judging. SMH 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TheGDNetwork]

Dee-1 be schooling I like this young brother

[@TheMVPFamily777]

Just because you had to do certain things to get out of certain circumstances doesn’t mean the same as glorifying them

[@belleami7675]

@4:40. Talk D-1!!! I BEEN saying this.

[@nedarriusjohnson]

Math put points back on the board these last 2

[@elypreach7295]

Math is just trolling to make the conversation. He gets the message

[@general5ive950]

50 a goat chill 🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@GlenHibbert]

At some point some of us brothers have to grow up.

[@Franktank38]

When is math gonna grow up ?? Like fr don’t he got kids n shit smh

[@YoungWise2011]

There was a meeting that took place in the early 90s with all the major record labels that sat down that talked about only signing and promoting rappers promote ignorance violence sex as they were all tied to the private prisons and we all know music is very influential that's why we don't hear many Lupe Fiasco's D1 or any of these cats blowing up not signing people with a positive message trying to corrupt the youth and they've succeeded

[@doesntmattertoyou1817]

Like on Krayzie Bones truth talks pods information !

[@dolo4625]

@@doesntmattertoyou1817 yup!

[@YoungWise2011]

@doesntmattertoyou1817 YES he talked about it as well. I heard this maybe 10 11 years ago.

[@TonyEgg93]

"Ama college professor". 😂😂

[@MrCharizmatiik]

I like that Dee 1 brother. Word up. Keep up the awesome work.

[@LaughHouseProductionLLC]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@rstewart283]

Dee 1 speaking the truth it's just sad that I didn't understand iin the 90,s now I'm 45 everything I did was wrong how i lived was wrong

[@shaundasmith7765]

1st!

[@KEISON2]

Maff is part of the problem and he doesn’t even know it or spewing stuff for views.

[@ivwmusik]

It’s a difference of judgment and correction

[@jonnyboy1064]

These dudes all put up a good front for their videos ..

[@blsd1up]

Let’s not get it twisted, we all judge, we should, condemnation is what we shouldn’t do.

[@kentldubz]

50 knows people have to do what he done just survive, so he cant tell people not to do it

[@unblindswordzman96]

It's the deeds being committed not the person that's the problems.

[@cpinecp]

Ppl use the word glorification very loosely

[@MakoPapiShark]

He wasn’t Judging a man’s choices out of survival, he’s was pointing out that Glorifying murder and crime is bad for the culture as a whole. To feel judged by that is a little sensitive. This is bigger than us…

[@tjinks7530]

Being an emotional fanatic in regards to entertainment is futile at this point

[@leroygreen6310]

Dee 1 not asking 50 Cent to denounce defending his life, he's asking him to give another perspective besides glorifying the streets. People say Jesus hung with criminals but not everybody he was around were criminals is earthly mother and father, John The Baptist and not all the disciples were criminals so Jesus saw both sides of the coin and picked righteousness.

[@priestgang9907]

You gotta have 1st hand game to really relate!! I’m not knockin dude, but his perspective is 2 nd hand.. Life’s like lotto, you gotta be in it to win it!!!

[@Chillimane]

50 does have to say . He is demonstrating. 😅

[@est.inthe80s]

Tbh I think 50 has evolved and it has shown in his recent interviews now has he evolved to the point I’d like to see no not at all but he has shown tremendous growth so I’d have to agree with both perspectives

[@Travelbum3000]

Are you serious? 50 literally trolls all day on the internet like a teenager & you talking bout he’s evolved😂

[@dolo4625]

@@Travelbum3000 😂😂exactly! 50 literally spoke on lil kim’s daughter eye, made a skit about his own son, dude doesn’t have any friends because he ruin every relationship! To boot, dude is almost 50 years old. I give 50 credit for one thing, his ignant ass knows how market to his ignant ass remedial fanbase.

[@PJ_food_kicks_culture]

I like dee1 message and I also like gansta music but I’m not in the streets nor ever lived that life so I get both parts in this debate

[@isaactendongho8360]

Mecc needs his own show, and where Bigga at?

[@i.c.manning4346]

MATH JUST WORSHIP THE DEVIL...CAUSE YOU BELIEVE NOONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE...YOU HAVE ALOT OF GROWING TO DO

[@shaundasmith7765]

For all of those making excuses ... I think you should review the beginning of rap... where it went... how impactful it was...the ultimate underlying message and then around 91 when the first change happened and then 96 ish when it changed again... and where it is now. Think it not strange.

[@moelynch]

We need to get out of this "perfect world of entertainment" mentality. Every artist is not gonna make positive music that changes the world. It's just not gonna happen. Entertainment is not a dictatorship. Every artist and filmmaker is not going to make positive content. Speaking on accountability, did Popeyes get pressed for accountability when the public was acting a fool and killing each other over a chicken sandwich? Popeyes themselves didn't even take the sandwich off the market even though their employees were getting punched in the face for running out of the sandwich. We need to stop pressing hip hop artists like they're tearing up the world beyond repair. Man, stop.

[@rockyward6758]

Agreed..

[@jermaineparks8854]

It seem like only the killers and drug dealers get support and push from the machines tho, make that make sense. I love gangster music but besides Kendrick what positive or even neutral artist is there.?...

[@nomanejane5766]

​@@jermaineparks8854 stop blaming the machine, when it's the people that love that type of degenerate music

[@jermaineparks8854]

@@nomanejane5766 stop acting like the machine caters to the listeners ears when it's all about living their pockets. Like what you like, that aint the issue. What artist has the machine pushed that actually promotes peace.? You mean to tell me the only type of rappers is killers, gang members and dealers.? Without the machine no artist makes it hence the reason record labels exist..all I'm saying is look who they PUTTING in yo face

[@lethaljones3814]

@@nomanejane5766 this is the comment right here! If the consumers of the music did not love the murder raps then the machine wouldn’t push it. Most rap fans online want to hear about black murder music, unfortunately. It is what it is. If the labels start pushing majority positivity they will lose money

[@alexanderchristian8809]

We all enter an age of understanding where we begin to understand right or wrong - regardless of the situation and/or cultural background. because I don’t condone a situation, an action, etc does not mean I condemn the person. It does not mean I am being judgmental. Many don’t understand the power they give past identities and future fantasies because they can’t bring light to their ego and fear - the conscious thinkers can’t save the unconscious, compulsive minds of those who don’t want to transform and simply rise above an impoverished mindset. They must be willing to accept new truths and open up their heart and soul to transformation. Fact is every rapper is not Donald Goines, Gil Scott Heron, 2Pac etc. - some are puppets for an evil game the music industry plays

[@jeremyloving3620]

Math only thinking streets

[@zxe5951]

He did that in his book already

[@twentyfoursevenpromo]

The misunderstanding of where content is created leads to him giving the blame to the wrong people. Hip hop music is dictated by the streets!! Change the streets u change the content

[@isaiah102509]

Math don't need to debate intellectuals

[@krazejhaha]

Sad cause when 50 did that show on the lawyer who was in jail no one watched and it cancelled

[@JM-iw1bx]

I 100% stand with DEE-1. As a black man I am tired of seeing the same sh**. Drug dealing shows and movies with are brothers and sisters. Give me more movies such as, The Banker or tv shows such as Self Made.

[@Travelbum3000]

50 be having ppl scared to speak smh bc this guy never answered the question on what he thinks about what he’s doing now. I like 50 but the stuff he does online is wild & nobody calls him out on it bc they seem to be scared. Just my observation🤷🏿‍♂️

[@terrencetrafton4553]

Jesus hung with thieves and he died with two thieves beside him.. and one thief had to take accountability and admit that Jesus was the true messiah.. and the other thief did not.. soooo therefore the thieves had two different destinations after they died... know your bible if you are going to use bible references to back up your claim.

[@soles4real308]

I can even watch these clips in full. Math on something else 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jamesmitchell2151]

Dee-1 is more evolved and more mature than Math. Shout out to all the gods in Brooklyn who couldn’t reach Math Hoffa in his youth.

[@Pauxthabeatmaker]

7:34 GAT right !!!!!!

[@largegod77]

Life is not perfect .. there is no positive without negative.. dudes can cry all they want it’s not gonna change

[@mickeyr3mc]

Be the change you wanna see in the world without judging others, this guy should stop telling people what he thinks they should do and mind his own business

[@junstadomus]

Math talking more potent than he is. I still wanna know who he let snuff the gun out his hands

[@dewaynemoore4626]

🎯🎯🎯🤝🏾🫡 Dee 1

[@tcummings2904]

He already did that in his book

[@wisdombe5214]

Rap is not glorifying, it’s entertainment dats all, I’m wit math on dis debate

[@jamar95little24]

If you lived it you can talk about it.Only those who are in these individuals can understand

[@camfreed9829]

They aren’t trying to just get the attention of “individuals that understand”. They are trying to get as many peoples attention as possible. And to them it doesn’t matter Men, women, boys, girls doesn’t matter to them…as long as it gets them closer to selling platinum or Diamond..

[@adrienmichaud2889]

I agree with Dee-1 but it's easier said then done...