PTR-91 Broken! PTR Steel Lower Receiver failure and Apex G3 and CETME magazines (pt 1)

[@JohnDoe-xu6uu]

So far I've had no complaints with my PTR. Thanks for posting I'm going to check out my lower give it a closer look because mine is identical to yours.

[@BrosephMerrick]

PTR customer service did come through with a replacement after a week or two. Just not something you want to happen to a rifle you may depend on.

[@JohnDoe-xu6uu]

@@BrosephMerrick. I'll be ordering a spare now just in case.

[@BrosephMerrick]

@@JohnDoe-xu6uu if you can get one, I might recommend getting a spare polymer lower. You might find you like it more.

[@JohnDoe-xu6uu]

@@BrosephMerrick. Thanks I'll check into those.

[@stormking57]

RTG has pinned and clipped steel lowers fairly cheap. I bought mine about eight years ago and it came with the navy/polymer lower.

[@grandpaweber2097]

That sucks and I hope PTR takes care of you. Having said that, everybody shits on the Century C308 but mine has been 100% since round one (maybe because they are 80% PTR made?).

[@BrosephMerrick]

My C308 is solid too, I just hate the lack of paddle mag release

[@grandpaweber2097]

Okay, valid issue. I admit to installing an aftermarket paddle release on mine, the Tac latch I believe. A world of difference.

[@BrosephMerrick]

@@grandpaweber2097 I’ll have to look into that mod

[@olddirtyburt7522]

Those lower trigger groups are usually HK originals (G3). I have an older aluminum century, and mines an original G3 G3 lower. Mine doesnt have a 2and pin, but a shelf like yours. Mine is violent, disturbing and kick a55, especially to brass. But has never failed once. I am running Radway Green through it, but I wouldn't even know if my extractor is broke because it's so damn violent. Get it sorted and you'll be happy. Much better than an FAL

[@BrosephMerrick]

I agree with it being better than an FAL, at least compared to DSA. PTR honored their warranty and sent a replacement, but I figured out I prefer the Navy style polymer lower anyways.

[@stormking57]

Is that a ptr lower? I've only seen them with a polymer lower. I put a HK lower in mine with a Bill Springfield trigger group and have shot a few thousand rounds through it with no problem.

[@BrosephMerrick]

The steel lower is the original one that came with the PTR for my rifle.

[@Raven_of_Doom]

Let us know what happens. Heard many good things about PTR customer service, but would be better not to have to use them at all. I've owned a PTR 32 for a few months and I think I got a winner (and not a lemon). PTR 91 coming in today (will take possession in a few weeks). Going to Cerakote an AC Unity handguard OD green; will see how that comes out. I'd love to have a backup lower like you have. Any recommendations? just RTG and HKParts? thanks for the video

[@BrosephMerrick]

The backup lower I have is from a Century C308 sporter. I would probably order one from HKParts. Might be worth checking if Apex has them first, because generally their pricing is a little better. Plus you could get some extra mags from Apex for $4-5 a piece. The steel Cetme mags I got for $4 cleaned up really well, I just haven’t gotten a chance to test their reliability yet.

[@BrosephMerrick]

Part 2 is posted. Got a new receiver. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXmydXSOjLWWb80

[@johnhancock2667]

They literally sent me three new sights do to a scratch on mine. Granted the scratch was there right out the case when I bought it new.

[@nomad0118]

I've had a great experience with PTR your warranty is lifetime sorry your having a hard time getting in contact with them.

[@BrosephMerrick]

PTR has contacted me since. I am waiting to receive the parts before making a follow-up video.

[@BrosephMerrick]

Made a follow up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXmydXSOjLWWb80

[@davidv.3135]

Another thing, my buddy bought a PTR-91 a few weeks ago and is already having some issues with feed and extraction reliability. He figures there is a "break-in" period and is going to see what happens. HK never had any break-in period. The originals run 100% reliable right out of the box!

[@BrosephMerrick]

Is he using steel or brass case ammo? I think you get better extraction with the steel case ammo on these.

[@davidv.3135]

@@BrosephMerrick Brass

[@BrosephMerrick]

Try steel and it ought to launch the spent casings to the moon

[@alexispadilla2606]

Lol original hks had lemons too. Dont let nostalgia fool you

[@josephmata3447]

Mines run great since I got it. Got porbbaly 1000 rounds through it no failures haven't even bothered cleaning it yet. Runs great.

[@newdefsys]

That looks soldered, not welded. Thats why you dont have any penetration. A local weld shop can spot weld the shelf back in place (like it supposed to be) quickly and cheaply. And then you can refinish the metal with a can of Aluma-Hyde. Or just buy a German HK clipped and pinned polymer housing from HKPARTS for $65 + shipping. The shelf is molded into the polymer and its HK quality so you can just put that on and forget about it.

[@BrosephMerrick]

Looked spot welded to me. Welded it back in place with the mig and got a complete replacement from PTR. So now I’ve got two spares, but I’m liking the polymer lower more anyways.

[@fredboat]

How old is your PTR G3? My serial number GI88** on my G3 and I have the PTR 308win pistol that I SBRed a few years ago. So far no problems and I run them hard. Good Luck.

[@BrosephMerrick]

I’ve got GI22**

[@seangerbick6357]

Thinking of buying one today.

[@BrosephMerrick]

I’d still get one for sure. It’s still one of my favorites. Best if you can check it out in person and feel the ergos, and inspect it yourself before paying. It’s definitely not for everyone. Make sure the charging handle is easy enough for you to operate reliably and that the LOP works for you.

[@beefsupreme6488]

I tried steel and brass cased along with different magazines it didn't even cycle a whole magazine and is completely jammed

[@BrosephMerrick]

That’s how mine was when my lower was out of alignment because the tab that holds it in was broken. You might have to send it in. I think the PTRs all have a lifetime transferable warranty.

[@michaelcribbin7704]

Ptr sicks

[@BrosephMerrick]

Can’t tell if you’re saying PTR sucks or PTR is sick, but either way yeah I agree lmao

[@davidv.3135]

That's what you get with a non-licensed clone. The real G3/HK91, Greek SAR-3/8 and Portuguese FMP are the best on the market. All made to proper specifications and licensed by HK. PTR-91 is reverse engineered and was never licensed by HK. You get what you pay for. Us old farts bought all the good ones back in the 1980's and early 1990's. I got my first HK91 in 1984 and it has never, ever had any malfunctions. ZERO! The original hammer forged barrels last forever as well. PTR is just an "affordable" clone. I'm not attacking PTR owners, you make the best with what you can afford or obtain. Just stating the facts so that people can make an informed choice.

[@BrosephMerrick]

And PTR isn't even the worst of the G3 clones on the US market. There are some real stinkers check out the Hesse Arms Centurion 2000. Then there's the Century Arms C308, which is more of a Cetme model C clone than it is a G3 clone. If I could get an HK91 I would. I'm not sure you old farts will ever appreciate how good you had it lol. Crates of surplus rifles and plentiful cheap ammo, it truly was the promised land.

[@davidv.3135]

@@BrosephMerrick Dude, it was a great time to pick up guns and ammo!

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

It’s not”reverse engineered “ lol The Ptr is made on hk tooling lol. They are the real deal just not stamped by hk and no hammer forged barrel. And because of so, yiu can literally put hk parts on them and they will fit right on because they are real 91s made on hk tooling not some revered engineered clone lol

[@usernamehhhs4540]

G3/HK91, Greek SAR-3/8 are not on the fucking market anymore

[@thegeorgiawild]

@@HatsuneM1ku01it’s hard to convince a fudd… Hk is the best bla bla. My PTR-91 is solid and has had zero issues and eats everything. And you are correct, it was built on HK tooling and is per specs. Old guy is just spreading misinformation because the HK91 is what he has and he’s just pissed because he has no bottom mag release lol