PTSD vs CPTSD: Understanding Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

[@CB19087]

Your description about "cptsd is largely neglected and misunderstood" probably describes how every person with cptsd feels. I went to an NHS mental health appointment and said I thought I had it, the nurse said there's no such thing and I'll never recover from the trauma and will just have to learn to live with it! Set my recovery back by 6years!

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Sorry to hear that Carly :/ Yes, I hope that they will recognize CPTSD in the next DSM so nobody else has to experience the same thing you did!

[@tnijoo5109]

It’s always funny when a doctor or nurse pretends something doesn’t exist simply because they don’t know about it or it hasn’t been fully accepted by the medical community, even if there’s substantial research on it. Really sucks to ever have anything like that happen but especially when you’re dealing with trauma. Hope things are getting better for you. 💚

[@CB19087]

@@tnijoo5109 thank you, just unlucky with the timing I guess. The best thing about KZbin is you can access information like this and do the work yourself 🙏

[@PhilJohn-j5z]

Ive been involved in a attempted murder me and my son the men are now in prison. I dont function at all. Do you think ive got PTSD

[@GaymerLads]

​@user-fz7qr2iv6o i know im not a psychologist so i dont want to be ignorant and give you a diagnosis...but im just gonna say that i went through a similar experience, and got diagnosed with cptsd last year. I went and looked up information about resouces in the area i live to start the process of trying to heal, cause i couldnt function. Since we're both here at the same video explaining cptsd, it is possible if you feel these symptoms resonate with your experience, but its always best to speak to a licened health proffesional for the best outcome. I started out by looking up information of my insurance and then reached out to mental health offices that specialized in this, but there are also places that help people that dont have insurance as well. It can be hard and take time to find a place and therapist that works well for you but please dont give up!

[@timalan5376]

I have been officially diagnosed with Severe "complex" PTSD and he describes it perfectly. Thank you!

[@caro1606]

You’re not alone 🥹

[@foxtail19]

Your voice matters, because you are able to share your story with another person or more than 1 person, can heal them from their pains, losses, and long-sufferings❤️‍🩹. You are not alone!🥹

[@timalan5376]

It has taken me 23 hospitalizations, under the care of many doctors and therapists, in several inpatient/outpatient programs to begin to approach baseline normalcy. And after all of that, I still tried to drink myself to death. Today, I'm sober, stable, safe, and sane, but still troubled by ferocious nightmares and hellacious flashbacks. Yet, I refuse to be under any psycho-tropic medication. I'm an honorably discharged Veteran, and as far as Vets with PTSD go, mine is a success story, for many Vets don't make it back from the edge of insanity

[@foxtail19]

@@timalan5376 beautiful testimony🥹 despite the trials and tribulations that you’ve endured, you were able to share with others that there is Hope! Like the old saying, ‘Things don’t just happen overnight,’ but it’s the thought, dedication, effort, and patience that make us succeed! I am only a young person, but your story has shown me that there is Hope! And I’m sure your story will inspire others, just as much your story has inspired me. God bless!🙏🏽

[@foxtail19]

@@timalan5376 your testimony is very inspirational! Not only did this give me Hope, but I’m sure your story gave Hope to many individuals around the world. I am a young person and came across your comment with pure joy, kindness, and gentleness. A few words of wisdom that I have the need to share with you are: to continue to heal, strive, thrive, and all that you can do while you’re alive, so that one day you will be able to endure nothing but pure joy and love!!❤️‍🩹🌎 God bless you, sir!🙏🏽

[@beverleybenjamin3648]

I loved the thought of looking at Post Traumatic Growth. - We are not victims but survivors.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Absolutely!

[@angelapitts2123]

I love this! Just last night I said, "I'm tired of being a victim of my narcissistic mothers abuse. I am a survivor!"❤

[@beverleybenjamin3648]

@@angelapitts2123 💗

[@WackadoodleMalarkey]

Thrivalists!

[@michaelgarrow3239]

Victimized but not a victim…

[@tinaleubecker]

I have c-PTSD and I was recently ‘triggered’ (in quotes because I really don’t like using that word; to me, it connotes weakness) and even all of these years later, the intense abuse from childhood which spilled into adulthood, can cause me to unravel a bit. But I’m healing all the time and I thank you for your explanation and differentiation. Most people hear PTSD and say therapy, and while different therapy modalities are helpful, most psychologists & psychiatrists cannot touch on something they do not understand or are not allowed to or willing to explore. I found traditional therapy useless. In fact, it only took about three sessions to convince me that it was all me in the relationship and I should ignore all of my impulses because I can’t believe myself due to horrific and sustained childhood abuse. The decision I made after that based on this professional’s personal opinion almost ruined my life. Because of this, I stay alone and seek no therapy. It’s not the therapist’s fault, I didn’t have to listen to her. And I’m not unhappy. I’m not unfulfilled. I am, however, sad that there are so many of us who’ve suffered as children tremendous pain & heartache and the treatments that could be had are not offered. Maybe not treatments so much as just being understood. But better yet, we should figure out what causes some people to harm others (not all of them were abused themselves); is it evil, is it lack of empathy (psychosis)? Regardless, until the bad element is eradicated, people like me will continue to exist so I do not see why there is not a professional distinction between them so that people with c-PTSD can get the targeted help they need (and I don’t necessarily mean medication; I, for one, am against Big Pharma).

[@Jimjam482]

Search for a somatic therapist in your area that’s does breathwork, trauma yoga, somatic experiencing Dr Peter Levine, Biodynamic Breathwork and trauma Release therapist BBTRS. Somatic therapy is a collection of modalities that helped me enormously with PTS I can now function

[@tiffytoo]

Cptsd has ruined my life.

[@tinaleubecker]

@@tiffytoo I’m so sorry. And I can relate. 😢

[@timelessfreedom1410]

@tinaleubecker I, too, am struggling to find a treatment modality. Research the work of Deb Dana. I’m most drawn to her work. Videos are helpful. However, her book Anchored is a bit too difficult for me. Good luck. This is a new paradigm and will take a couple of decades to become mainstream with better understanding and treatments. I just don’t have a couple of decades left, so I’m forging ahead on my own.

[@beverleybenjamin3648]

I have found that listening to all of the advice given on KZbin and jumbling them up to suit myself does help to a certain extent. Also choosing to be in the company of others who understand and not being in the company of those who don't have a clue also helps. It has also destroyed a lot of my life but learning to toughen up with those who couldn't be bothered to have a clue and saying to myself "it's not me, it's their opinion" does help. I do have areas that need work. Not allowing other people's behaviours become my trigger is the biggest one to overcome.

[@ooulalah4333]

What I pick up on about CPTSD is that chronic stress is a typical feature such as sustained stress in childhood living in an abusive home

[@zc5cc]

Thanks so much for this video. I think something that could be part of the conversation is the tendency to invalidate one's own experiences. Depending on the nature, severity, and timing of the trauma, I'd imagine this is something that demarcates CPTSD (anecdotally this is true, and a big disruption to healing). Because the trauma often precedes the formation of clear memories, and many forms of abuse can be (of course wrongly) justified by its perpetrators. CPTSD sufferers can be made to doubt their own memories, leading to an awful lot of time wasted on rumination. The most helpful part of this video was the advice to emphasise how life is affected now - exactly what went down in childhood, who was to blame, who should've known better, how abusive patterns were "balanced out" by acts of apparent kindness and so on, all matter less than the here-and-now when it comes to healing. Systematic whitewashing and invalidating by others is hard to deal with - it can be extremely difficult and not always practical to implement, but for me a really important part of treatment involved just massively increasing the distance between me and my family of origin. Depression, fatigue, insomnia, rumination, and difficulties around food still get me, but less so and I'm more aware of the causal structure. And the physiological symptoms of anxiety have calmed right down. Another thing to say is that healing is different to recovery - in CPTSD there is often no avenue for recovery because there is no pre-trauma state to return to (depending on religious/spiritual beliefs ofc), but healing is always possible because life can be new and different.

[@yousradahbeche1970]

Hi everyone I'm having very serious problems with mostly family difficulties and misunderstanding. The lack of support caused me to slowly drift away wondering why growing up as a child witnessing and overhearing everything. My parents fighting over whatever they come up with refusing to do as I tell them. No freedom, no acceptance on my wishes. This has turned my life upside down feeling confused, lost, always overthinking and remembering that something.

[@brabbit303]

Sorry the second you said emdr i had to pause, my therapist used to do emdr with me in a very basic form and it worked well, i was diagnosed informally with cptsd but even so I've been living functional for about 6 years unmedicated & emdr really did help

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad to hear Emdr was helpful!

[@harrisona.4654]

Oct 24 2023; 4:45 pm; Bago Great job of differentiating PTSD from CPTSD! My biggest take-away was the concept of Post Traumatic Growth. Too many persons never seem to get past the trauma, and stay in a loop of Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda. Am now excited and inspired to immerse myself in material related to Post Traumatic Growth! ;)

[@Xaxtarr_Neonraven]

Thank you. This is the best explanation I have found so far. I think that cPTSD experiences the PTSD symptom too but that the experience is much more transient and that the cPTSD symptoms are an attempt to shift back out of the PTSD symptoms. Some may have even compared this to BPD, but cPTSD can re-establish a relatively stable set point again unless and untill relationship triggers are reintroduced or perceived. I am speaking from personal experience, and have never had this aspect of my difficulties fully explained nor specifically treated.

[@code-master]

thank you so much, I am CPTSD, Looking in hindsight it seems like meditation gave me support to survive, In periods without meditation I plunge into deep depression, self-neglect, denial, social isolation, extreme anxiety, frustration, and anger. Alcohol and Caffeine seem to aggravate my situation. Social non-confrontational interaction helps a lot, Unfortunately, I don't have any friends. By the way, meditation is part of Yoga, the 8 levels of asthang Yoga. 1. Do the right things. 2. Avoid wrong things. 3. Asana (the physical exercises) 4. Control of breath. 5. Pratyahara (detachment senses) 6. Dharna (concentration) 7. Dyan (being absorbed) 8. Samadi There are other ways you defined for example being spiritual, that's Bhakti yoga, there are 16 such yogas. I hope I get better with time. I really want to grow.

[@Analysis_Paralysis]

It's so soothing and grounding to listen to you and your calm voice. (I really like people with friendly eyes and your friendly manner has a positive impact on me.) Thank you for providing all this information. I feel like I've now finally understood what CPTSD is, and what steps I can take to recover from it! 🙏🏻

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Oh thank you!

[@RippleDrop.]

I understand you. Anybody with Complex PTSD.

[@michaelgarrow3239]

I have been through this. To the point I shut down and quit eating. Nearly starved terminally. I’m recovering but I had lost everything including my ability to think. Thanks for the video.

[@katrinat.3032]

Great description about yoga. I feel like it calms the mind-body connection.

[@AWa-ik2ez]

- Dr Bessel Van Der Kolk recommends yoga for trauma survivors. He’s on KZbin. He is awesome. He survived childhood trauma during WW2 in Holland. He wrote the book “The Body Keeps the Score”. That’s on Amazon. -

[@DUSKvsDAWN]

"trauma is often caused by other humans, so it's pretty normal people might look to religion or spirituality to heal from trauma" as someone who chose the spiritual path, this is so damn true.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

It is unfortunate, but so true for many ❤️

[@maj.w4060]

@@PhoenixTraumaCenterIs it unfortunate to look to religion or spirituality, though? If it’s efficacious in performing it’s intended function, does not endorse harm to others, & allows a buffer against psychological harm one endured, why a negative value attributed to it? Especially considering the landscape of the opioid epidemic in the US, I think spirituality & religion function as a reprieve and far better mechanism to facilitate acceptance & healing.

[@unusualpond]

Excellent video. I work in the Field and completely appreciate the CPTSD diagnosis, but I predict that American insurance companies are not keen on having it placed in the DSM because just about everybody can plausibly claim to be affected by childhood trauma. Freud knew that trauma is the norm. That’s what the Oedipus complex (as a metaphor, not literally) shows us. In the old language we would say neurosis. And analyst in the 50s knew that neurosis is essentially normal. Now that we have everything tied to insurance it makes things tricky.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Sure does!

[@CountdownVideoPro]

One of the best resources on the internet I found on these topics. Thank you.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Thank you, I’m so happy that it is helpful!

[@zanetamonikasekulski814]

Agreed 👍

[@Imjustagrl]

Thank you! ❤️ I started dancing again at the beginning of 2024. I was having severe anxiety, almost full panic attacks when my dance instructor would stand behind me for certain steps. It felt normal to be hyper vigilant in public as I live in a big city, and have experienced, being followed, stalking and some uncomfortable situations. Why was it happening in a space I felt was safe? I realized when I can't see, feel or smell someone, I get anxious, and mirrors make it worse. I am slowly healing, as knowing is half the battle, and this video was super helpful and informative.

[@AWa-ik2ez]

- Can you tell your instructor that you don’t like people standing behind you because of past trauma? A good instructor should understand. -

[@marcellavedin1996]

Thank you! I feel understood. That's HUGE.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@le_th_]

Well done. Helpful differential distinction (rather than diagnosis) that will help individuals discern which, if not both, might apply to their own experience/s.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Thank you!

[@alleyjoy2307]

You’ve inspired me to start a yoga for CPTSD/PTSD channel. Thank you 🙏

[@TMH792]

For anyone who comes across this I have been diagnosed with both in my life time and I do have CPTSD. If you are able call every trauma informed therapist you can and ask them what modalities they use and what do they know about childhood trauma. You will usually know if the person is educated about it. Most of my CPTSD is surrounded by narcissistic abuse from grandma, mom and brother. I have cut ties with everyone and have been doing intense reprocessing using EMDR and IFS. It's rewiring my brain. I am better than I was 7 months ago. There is healing! When I would see people say that, I didn't believe it and thought I was too broken. There are a lot of therapists who do know about the differences. I also have had terrible therapists, but I knew right away and I truly believe the reason they won't put it in the DSM is bc it would turn into a pamphlet instead of a book. Much love and healing to everyone! My only regret is I wish I would have done it sooner, I've lost years of my life being in survival mode 24/7!

[@roguequeen6323]

What is IFS?

[@ooulalah4333]

​@@roguequeen6323I assume you googled it by now

[@dorasmole6600]

I think it is Internal Family Systems​@@roguequeen6323

[@foxtail19]

Thank you for spreading awareness about trauma that corresponds and correlates between PTSD and CPTSD. This has definitely given so much Hope, to just not only me, but to many people around the world globally!!! So much Joy, just to know that there is Hope and that we as the human race are kind and caring for one another!❤ 🌎❤ I was able to gain insight, interpret, process, and reciprocate all of the information that was provided within this video! I am medically diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Bipolar Disorder Type I, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, and a Learning Disability.

[@amandac3658]

Thanks for uploading these

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Happy they are helpful!

[@edytawas4980]

Thank you very much Scott for explaining trauma and different methods of healing from it. It was good to hear that yoga is a very valuable tool to heal from trauma. I would love to hear about it more . Thank you 🥰

[@angelmossucco]

Your lecture is beautiful calm and informative with much good information. Thank you.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

You are very welcome! Thank you!

[@GrouchyBeardO]

I have been dealing with CPTSD issues since 2011. Lots of different therapists over the years. I am starting EMDR with my current therapist. We have done some small starter sessions, I am excited to hopefully get some relief and release these trapped emotions.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

I’m excited for you to get some relief too!

[@karinturkington2455]

This is the best video I've seen on this topic. Thank you so much.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@Yinyara]

I'm starting trauma based yoga tomorrow. I really hope it helps, but i'm really sceptical about it. I've been in all sorts of therapy for the past 25 years, most of what was mentioned in this video and nothing has helped so far. I developed an avoidant personality disorder since childhood from my complex childhood trauma and am still struggling with it every single day.

[@AWa-ik2ez]

Check out Dr Bessel Van Der Kolk. He very strongly recommends yoga for survivors of trauma. He’s on KZbin.

[@anjaderks2005]

Thank you for the clear insight into PTSD and CPTSD. Hypnotherapy wasn't mentioned, which gives great results. It is non-confrontational and reduces the emotional pull towards the trauma immediately. Is there any reason this isn't mentioned in your video??

[@SewHealthy8]

Very thoughtful, respectful & helpful video.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@annedebrams007]

Yes I am a survivor as well and thank you for the yoga and all of what you shared I now realize I can go forward with Post Traumatic.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

You certainly can move forward with post traumatic growth!

[@angiebabesdarboe3944]

I sometimes struggle with listening to these kinds of things but I tried my best to stay with you until the end of the video and will look into EMDR and cPTSD growth, I wasn’t challenged by anything you explained, one of the best videos I’ve seen on these subjects, thanks so much

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Wonderful!

[@elysianfields8461]

This was a really good video! Clear, concise, insightful. Thank you!

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@alexwelts2553]

😂😂. Seriously the alarm that went off halfway through the PTSD video 🤣.

[@AWa-ik2ez]

That noise is a trigger.

[@j76384]

Currently going through trauma therapy, including EMDR for CPTSD. So far I’ve found it helpful but only just getting into the nitty gritty of the traumas so only time will tell. Helps to have a good therapist and I’m lucky mine is fantastic. But it took a lot to get this therapy on the NHS. Worth the fight though

[@Warriorsurvivor1427]

I only remembered 2 years ago my trauma that began when I was pre-verbal and I'm almost 57. Completely forgotten about the physical and sexual abuse suffered until I was approx 12 after an abortion. Dissociated Completely. It is amazing what our brains are capable of!!! EMDR has literally saved my life. I am so grateful for this therapy. It is definitely worth researching imo. Blessings to all of the survivors and thrivers!

[@rosyloveslearning3013]

Thank you. It was informative and appreciated. ❤❤❤

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lensinmotion]

Love these snippits of education and wisdom. You've earned a subscription from me.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Great to hear!

[@runningsrage5895]

The narcissistic family that I was born into caused me to develop Cptsd. The abuse starts in elementary school. A few years go by and in 6th grade my symptoms of Cptsd come along. Suddenly my whole personality changed. I had so much Anger than before and I felt like I was on the edge. (hyper vigilant) I was dealing with panic attacks and flashbacks. Mostly stemming from abuse/fresh bad memories. Like right after an Intense family argument which escalated to yelling. Then afterwards we all avoided each other. The types of abuse being verbal, mental, emotional from my narcissistic dad and golden child brother. Not to mention all the gaslighting and constant yelling towards me. My mom is a covert narcissist so her abuse was harder to notice but it was the same nonetheless. She was the victim and I was the “bad child”. She spread all of these lies to my brother. She brainwashed him against me and she made me jealous of him from the completely different treatment we received. When I was younger I knew all of them were against me and It’s wasn’t that difficult to notice. Anyways I’m glad that now I have diagnoses that explain everything that I was confused about. My autism and Cptsd mainly. I’m a young adult now and they can’t blame me for anything anymore. I 100% know when I’m right vs when I’m wrong. I’m thankful for my boyfriend that I met in 2023 he helped me by giving/showing me the love I deserve. He needed my support as much as I needed his. I despised dating before because I didn’t want a relationship with an abuser. I wasn’t even searching and somehow we still met lol. He’s helped me heal my inner child and depression a lot. He got me video games I used to play or never got the chance to play. Things I never asked for as a kid because of “financial issues”.

[@Joleen-m2v]

Thanks this is very helpful. ❤

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rachel7of9]

I'm 56 years old, the oddest things started to happen to me about 8-9 months ago. I've been married for 24 years, my husband knows how I act and would notice any odd behavior. What turned into a test for MS lead to PTSD, I was totally shocked on what ur body does to bring out your past. Severe mental and physical abuse since I was born from the women who gave birth to me, being r@ped at 16 and always to blame for mother's bad day or how I ruined her life. I had no idea, nor thought about PTSD. I'm supposed to see some kind of therapist soon to help me deal and hopefully get rid of all my past luggage.

[@rnw26l]

Thank you so much for this informative piece. I am a trauma survivor with CPTSD. Meditation would be an amazing relief for me, however, I also have ADHD. Although I do take medication which has brought so much improvement, I am not able to meditate. My thoughts wont allow it. Best wishes from Belgium.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Thanks for your message - hope you are well!

[@gingerbeer849]

This is why "walking meditation" exists. I am high functioning/high masking/Autistic with ADHD and c-PTSD. Immersion in an area of hyperfocus that involves movement of the body (weight lifting/dance/digging ditches/building rock walls/rock climbing) can provide a healing form of meditation.

[@anonymousprivate6814]

I can totally relate to your comment. I am late diagnosed autistic/ high functioning/masking. I love walking and bird watching.@@gingerbeer849

[@rnw26l]

@@gingerbeer849 Thanks so much for your feedback. This in an area which I am slowly discovering and it makes a big difference.

[@bobbyjosson4663]

Tappping and Havening work very fast, sometimes as fast as 15 mins to knock out PTSD

[@JamesDobson-qw6tk]

Great talk. The most potent trio of modalities that l have used to overcome CPTSD are sustained and regular Progressive Muscle Relaxation (PMR), deep tissue massage, and regular micro dosing with Psilocybin. Body based therapies in the present are absolutely more potent than "head based". Of course unconditional love and unwavering support are invaluable at the same time, but recovery and optimistic futures are entirely possible 😀

[@gingerbeer849]

yes, yes, yes. A lot of people get good results from heavy lifting (weight training). I've always gotten "trigger recovery" from hiking and horse training (a system designed by a famous Portuguese trainer who believed that horses were souls equal before God and therefore only a mutual partnership was appropriate training) and having a small flock of sheep. Lots of heavy lifting in a natural setting and large movements of the body in addition to work that required (or rather, invited) concentrated focus.

[@allthewayfrom]

That’s great, James! Are your three modalities still working for you? Be well

[@spiral-bp6jg]

Thank you so much! will look into many of the additional tools suggested here today. Truth be told I have practiced or participated in yoga meditation and exercise to some degree for the last 20 years, however, I am still repeating and avoiding, the hardest part for me is allowing myself to communicate with others, at all. So seeking group help is a huge step for me, but it must be done. Also this whole attachment style and everything, I will heavily look into. Post Traumatic Growth I will study. Are there any studies on women in particular in their perimenopausal phase with CPTSD?

[@CB19087]

Very helpful, thank you 🙏

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Happy to hear it is helpful!

[@ralphPeters-vi6dr]

I have learned not to try and think through the why’s or the pain associated with the why’s. Instead I try and simply acknowledge the flash backs, the confusion and the fear, paranoia and mostly the anger as symptoms of a trauma I found a way to survive. The question…are my reactions reasonable? I do not give a Damn about the why. The why will never go away. But my recognition of myself, my ability to separate myself from the why does matter. That separation from constant suffering matters. It gives me space to decide if my reactions are appropriate or not. And yes I fail sometimes. But I have found over time I have become more reflective upon my reactions. More forgiving of myself and those around me. R

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Thanks for sharing, I like your approach and think others would benefit from doing the same!

[@ralphPeters-vi6dr]

Thank you for your comment. True C PTSD, is a mind killer. Please treat us with extreme care. Thanks R

[@stevelockie6546]

I live in New Zealand I’m not sure if the Drs know about cptsd . Thank you for the information very helpful

[@susantompkins4254]

Thanks you, this has been really helpful and interesting

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@SSJ1998]

Well explained .

[@bronstadheim164]

Excellent video thanks

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@gracetoglory5020]

Thankyou for this information.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gracetoglory5020]

@@PhoenixTraumaCenter indeed it is/was. I am recently trying to unravel the cptsd damage in my life. Do you have any recommendations for trauma therapists in Australia? Please

[@angelmossucco]

Could you kindly share the link to join your Monday zoom group? Thank you.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Here’s the info on our website- www.phoenixtraumacenter.com/drop-in-trauma-recovery-support-community-group/

[@kathycarraher5014]

Alcoholics anonymous ,Adult children of alcoholics and Al-anon groups for families of alcoholics .These groups provide a structure and support while teaching ways to change your life .Most importantly it is a way to find other people who have lived thru traumatic experiences and you don't feel so alone or isolated. Living with an alcoholic or drug addicted parent ,spouse or child any of the AA type groups are great the hard part is changing your behavior.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

So true, thanks for the insight!

[@NN57143]

I disagree. In my experience, 12 Step groups can be horribly toxic spaces for individuals who suffer from childhood trauma. I don’t recommend that at all.

[@ralphPeters-vi6dr]

Any time I see 417 positive responses I am concerned. C PTSD involves long term exposure to trauma that actually wires the brain permanently. Why, because the trauma can not be escaped until the teen years. By then the damage is done. So can we heal. Yes we can. R

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Yes, well said!

[@HabibeBoyraz-hg2nk]

Sensory motor and somatıc therapy help with traumas and experıentıal therapy

[@jeffreykeith6494]

I think you could write a book on my story alone. 3 to 11. It didn't stop. I'm a little off.

[@PiskeyFaeri]

I've been looking for and not finding is research regarding complex trauma formed in late adolescence/early adulthood, rather than in childhood. It seems as though the 15-25 age group is largely missing from the research. I've also been looking for experiences and treatment of complex trauma from experiences of long-term IPV. I find neither of these get spoken about much in relation to c-PTSD and complex trauma. Do you have any suggestions regarding books or papers on these topics?

[@bondjane007]

Well I mentioned Babette Rothschild to somebody else on here. She wrote a book called "The body remembers" Maybe you can find it online or somewhere and check it out she's also located in West LA at least she used to be. I don't know if she's still practice or not believe she goes around the world and practices but I don't know as of late.

[@PiskeyFaeri]

@@bondjane007 thank you! I've read The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der Kolk, which sounds similar to Babette's book. I'll look into that.

[@tnijoo5109]

Excellent video. Could you perhaps make a video about psychedelics in treatment for trauma and its efficacy in treating PTSD versus C-PTSD? There’s so many studies coming out and I really love when someone skilled explains the most relevant studies. Thank you. 🙏💚

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[@j.p.8811]

Thank you for the video! What does the research say as far as effectiveness of EMDR treatment for people with pervasive childhood trauma? I'm curious as I have been diagnosed with CPTSD but I've been unable to find a therapist at the mental health facility I go to that is trained in EMDR treatment and have struggled to find therapy productive for addressing the core issues of my mental health. Even though I've made significant progress over the years it feels somewhat superficial compared to the deep rooted issues of my trauma, sense of self, self esteem, view of the world, that probably drive some of my unhealthy behaviors. I know you can't really give direct medical advice but any general advice for people in my situation would be appreciated.

[@geaca3222]

Hi I was told by a therapist that EMDR with rescripting (a safe environment and safe relationship with a trauma informed therapist are very important) is very helpful, but with childhood trauma additional therapy is needed. Like EFT, schema therapy, CBT and new methods are continuously developed. Regular Yoga and mindfulness meditation also help with emotional regulation and nervous system relaxation. I'm also interested in MDMA assisted therapy when it is officially approved.

[@splinterbyrd]

When PTSD is mentioned, people often think of sudden bereavement, being in an accident, physical harm or war. What I didnt know about until I experienced it is that straightforward physical illness can be traumatising too. A few days ago some heavy lifting injured my back in some way. 2 days later I woke up almost paralyzed with pain more excruciating than Ive ever experienced in my life. The doc just gave me painkillers, and it's now bearable as a backache. But if not traumatized, I certainly feel shaken up and rather shocked.

[@digitalphoenix72]

How is your back injury doing now? I'm trying to address childhood trauma because I've had a back injury that hascaused the most stressful 18 months of my life. It took dozens of hours and months of missed time off work before they finally even approved getting an MRI. Now with a recovery time of another 3-12 months, I'm going out of my mind not being able to work, workout, and organize my apartment. Now I can't even pick up 6 lbs, and I used to be a champion powerlifter (years ago). And now on the umpteenth month of being bedridden and unable to use the gym as an escape or get lost in my work, I have to face my demons head on, clear headed, and weaker than I've ever felt... Back injuries can cause so much anguish and because back pain is so common, they often don't take it seriously. I did find it very interesting that the surgeon told me that it was of utmost importance that my anxiety was under conrol before and after the operation. I had to tell them "if it wasn't for the last year and a half of trying to get the HMO to take the injury seriously, it would be under control. And I can't get any closer to controlling it until I'm actually healing and not fighting with you guys to take care of the problem". I was overly nice to them, basically a pushover until I reached my breaking point and started filing complaints. It says your comment was 5 months ago, I really hope that it has healed. ❤

[@wonder7798]

What is layered long term trauma? Example someone experiences sex abuse as child, then as an adult domestic violence and financial abuse ongoing for years in intimate partner relationship, then crisis of job loss, business loss, loss of economic security and then homelessness.

[@PhilJohn-j5z]

Hi me and my son have been involved in a attempted murder they were strangling me and my so came into the bedroom and found them ,then they attacked my son treat to life with a firearm .my head as gone haven't slept for 8 months in and out parion full off guilty and nightmares, have i got PTSD thanks

[@traceytansley1659]

Oh my, seems quite possible. I experienced severe sleep issues post traumatically...still do, to lessor degree. Seek therapy. ❤

[@asdanahohi749]

Welcome

[@mlkekwiatkowski6215]

Is C PTSD the same as Chronic PTSD that I was diagnosed with 20yrs ago??

[@jockjock6693]

What does DSM mean and is cptsd not recognised officially?

[@Sakaripeltola]

It is really annoying that you cannot turn off the subtitles. As a deeply traumatized person who is continuously looking for threats they are really disruptive. I try to listen, but then I also have to read the text and stop looking at the man’s face who could be a threat…

[@geighsects2519]

Is EMDR at all beneficial for CPTSD?

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Yes, absolutely! It just takes longer to to do

[@noneya9444]

I find a dirt bike in a single track going through. The woods is great therapy for complex PTSD and I have a friend that is a veteran that finds it great for his PTSD.

[@AshleighWheatley]

I really think I have both

[@bipolarbusiness6989]

I am on my own mission to figure out what is happening to me. During my childhood I had multiple traumas with physical, mental, and sexual traumas. I was diagnosed with PTSD. I have episodes of dissociation weekly, sometimes daily. The psychologist who diagnosed me here in America had me do multiple tests over 2 months. He diagnosed ‘PTSD’ and ‘major nuerocognitive disorder’. I have short term memory loss and sometimes long term memory loss. Im wondering if this could be associated with CPTSD. How that works, if these can tend to go hand in hand. How the brain connects these things. Anyone have an answer for that or am I way off? I’d like the correct diagnosis, instead of an overarching diagnosis of ‘major nuerocognitive disorder’, which doesn’t really explain WHY I have memory loss or why I so often have dissociative symptoms. Thanks to anyone’s advice.

[@MySpaceDxC_Suffo_AtTheGates]

Do you have identity issues? If so you likely have Borderline Personality Disorder. It affects emotion regulation as well. It can occur with any kind of ptsd anxiety depression etc. as well. There you go diagnose yourself now! Good luck!

[@ralphPeters-vi6dr]

I suggest you search out trauma therapists associated with teaching hospitals. Regardless of your nationality. Start there and remember you are a good person, capable of tremendous efforts. R

[@stellaariana1276]

Dissociation is highly related to ptsd and cptsd. Especially if it started early, dissociation is a coping mechanism for trauma, a way to "check-out" from what the brain cannot assimilate. Especially in childhood, often the carer is the abuser, whether intentional or not and the child Brian ( adult brain often as well) cannot hold the cognitive dissonance of this person protects me and also hurts me. They need the parent/abuser to survive, so the brain blanks out the abusive so the child can. Keep a somewhat normal storyline. Otherwise the questions of who am I, do I deserve it, etc are too much for a little one to take in. This dissociation obviously causes memory to be spotty during episodes, and if this was your coping mechanism as a child, it bleeds into adult hood- resulting in "memory" issues and yes sometimes identity issues also. Irene Lyon has some great, easily understood content on these topics, highly recommend looking her up to answer your questions.

[@bipolarbusiness6989]

@@stellaariana1276 thank you!!

[@bipolarbusiness6989]

@@MySpaceDxC_Suffo_AtTheGates yeah no identity issues at all. 👍

[@mikesanders8621]

I have CPTSD from childhood abuse and nobody i've met has ever heard of it. They all assume it means chronic PTSD.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Ahh that’s interesting, I can see how they might misunderstand the acronym- but still frustrating!

[@ralphpeters613]

I am sorry sir, C PTSD is based upon long term trauma starting at a young age when brains are developing. This means that true C PTSD patients are hard wired from an early age. This also can explain the common miss diagnosis of such patients. As the your amplify of the veteran. Under the above paradigm an individual with CPTSd can join the. Military, see battle and compound their existing condition. This condition is tough to sort out from a number of diagnoses the individual my be presenting.

[@prodigygirl1]

EMDR literally knocked me for 6:I was stuck in a loupe and hyper vigilante for over a week. I have CPTSD.

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

I’m sorry to hear that. Yes, Emdr can be difficult with cptsd and needs to be done carefully- you are so right

[@josefine4416]

can you experience difficulties in relationships if you have normal ptsd, if the one time incident happened due to betrayal in interpersonal relationships in early adult hood?

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Absolutely. That is definitely possible

[@Eflodur]

He say cbt is better researched because it is better manualized. What does manualized mean in this context mean?

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Manualized means that CBT has a step by step manual that someone can follow to provide the therapy. This makes it easy to replicate for research purposes. Manualized therapies are easy to learn/implement but many critics say they are too robotic and cookie cutter

[@annesolarlunar6142]

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[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

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[@markweatherall7437]

Is C-PTSD in the DSM manual yet? January 2024?

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

It is not :/ the dsm only gets updated every several years. Some are speculating the dsm 6 will be released sometime after 2025

[@allensheppard3691]

no emdr in my town

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

It is something you can do virtually as long as the therapist is licensed in your state. You can use the search engine at Emdria.org to find a therapist

[@HabibeBoyraz-hg2nk]

An amazıng explanatıon wıth solıd solutıons...thank you very much...

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

You are welcome!

[@allensheppard3691]

My trauma is both generational and experienced as well as generationally reinforced, as the last Wahpetonwan Dakotah ''sioux'' and the child of a three tour viet nam volounteer combat veteran. i say i have no more feelings on the subject. only feelings that come out sideways. however my children know when im lying

[@zanetamonikasekulski814]

Warrior since childhood abuse 6yrs old, teen forced, literal gun to the neck to abort my baby boy...I was 16.. Then 19 gang rape, 20's didn't have volition, no good positive support, became drug addict in the worst way, now sober for 16 years, had boyfriend put s gun to my head, yip another crazy dude, when i found myself sober for 3 years i felt it's ok to start dating! I met a nice man. Unfortunately, me and my trauma were masked, for years! Until I started cognitive impairment, the motor function impaired, I would be so embarrassed at a function while making people laugh, I'd stop because I didn't know what I just said.. that's when I realized there is a problem. Self medicated not with drugs, alcohol. Which I hate the taste of. Searching for someone that is me, looks like me, does not feel comfortable in my own skin, my partner at the time due to being together for seven years, he truly did not want to come off nasty.. he just asked for me to see someone. Last straw was when I threw a cinder block (I'm 5feet 98 lbs. ) Broke the window to my bedroom, jumped in like a ninja , my partner just pushed me! I looked down, I had a 6 inch wide glass stuck in my wrist (ulnar nerve which was damaged but I came back) ANYPOO, THANK YOU , you described the subject genuinely, matter of fact, with compassion and understanding. Yoga. Ahhh, I have been practicing yoga, Tai chi, qiuong, the way you described each thought process when it comes to doing yoga, the why's, the how's, I have never heard anyone break this down as eloquently as you! Thank you!!!!! Great job! Thank you. 🎉

[@zanetamonikasekulski814]

@@andrewwilliams8986 I'm strong, but you can be only strong for so long. Therefore, resilience is key. Incredible life indeed. Thank you for your compassion 🙏

[@HollyKoenig-s2g]

Lorine Forges

[@LisaMendolia]

I suffer from PTSD/ BLPD due to being a sexually abused survivor. 🙏❤️🇨🇦

[@b3ckiv]

Uncanny dude, you look just like science guy in tech I broke up with at Exeter Uni class of 99/00. Thanks for helping.

[@b3ckiv]

Try massive adult trauma layered on the c-ptsd. It can get tricky when dealing with corrupt phsycoanalists, which is one of the next layers of complexity. The body does hold the score, so does some dude at Google.

[@b3ckiv]

After my first degree in 2018/19 academic year, I started my second degree, in this degree I had an outside my degree reseach folder om the student drive provided by google. The hippocampus amygdala reseach was to help me access student services that could not help ,e as I am not a suicidal idiator or a danger to myself or others, even after the community helped my abusive ex, the one who didn't leave me with anything other than battered wife syndrome. The community held my children with him while outside testing was conducted by non proffessionals not happy I did not expierence electric shock therapy on the second section I was deemed not in need of. Yes, UK still uses EST on derby girls that wish to continue post partum.

[@RudolphSandra-o1g]

Chris Ferry

[@JaniceCowell-f9w]

I was born with anxiety and have CPTSD severely and I am disabled for it and I can’t get a therapist to help with my vagus nerve response and my anxiety is worse than anyone I’ve ever met cause my childhood was a war of mental abuse physical abuse and molestation I’ve had to go to medication because no therapist will deal with CPTSD and a extreme anxiety disorder I grew up with a combat veteran and a schizophrenia mommy who beat us constantly and my dad was no different I was those’d to my grandparents and was sexually abused with my sister and I can’t get over the physical memories at night and have no one to discuss with sooooo therapist drive nice cars and live in golden houses and have perfect lives huh sounds like therapy is for therapists not patience who need a trip to a solidarity camp to re engage there true selfs nooooooooo way that cash goes to the therapists account and they buy buy buy and one day say bye bye bye bye to you and your not healed from your trauma this is what I’ve learned in twenty years of therapy good luck chuck

[@brushstroke3733]

I got totally lost when you started listing off names of therapy types without giving much description or explanation of what those therapies are. In other words, the jargon of mental health professionals that protects your jobs is obfuscating for those of us who have not studied mental illness rigorously in the academic system.

[@GodHelpMe369]

I'm drowning in grief and rage. My soul is raped. I am traumatized and paralyzed. What a miracle to be able to feel such rage and grief. So beautiful. So wild. So gorgeous. So intense. So loving, so kind. So free. PRAYER: Lord, I pray for healing: physically, emotionally, mentally, psychologically, and spiritually, In JESUS' name: break every chain, stronghold, yoke, every generational curse, and all witchcraft, and spell work. Holy Spirit, anoint me: from the top of my head to the soles of my feet. Release me, completely, from every darkness looming around me, in Jesus' name. Shine your light, your healing, your saving grace, and power over me. And FILL me with YOUR AGAPE LOVE and grace. I speak peace over my heart and mind and soul and body, in JESUS' name. So be it. So it is. Praise be to God. Hallelujah! 🧡🙌 Thank you, God, for Guiding me with your love and light! Thank you, God, for Surrounding me with your love and light! Thank you, God, for Protecting me with your love and light! Thank you, God, for Imbuing me with your love and light! Thank you, God, for Cloaking me with your love and light! I am loyal to Love, I am not loyal to abuse... *This is Gospel If there's a Goliath in front of you - there's a David inside of you! Hallelujah!!!

[@eriksebz8466]

I love your video but just a tip coming from PTSD, skip them fu...n BELL SOUNDS in the background if you're makin a video about PTSD because loads of PTSD people will check your videos. I'm just speaking my opinion, what you say is lovely but I fuckin hate those sounds to bits. (No hate to you indended, just the sounds). Weirdest trigger ever. Never had that problem before. But seems like you talking about the PTSD and the bell sounds going off at the same time seems to trigger everything at once. Hope you have a nice day mate, what you do is great.

[@ralphpeters613]

I wrote earlier concerning this video. While I am positive your heart is well placed, your explanation is rather shallow. I have suffered from this condition for all my life, 66 years. Medicine finally caught up with me 6 years ago. Best six years of my life. I can only say you are partially correct.

[@ButtersCCookie]

I was TRAUMATIZED BY BIG ASS AD WHEN I WENT TO YOUR WEBSITE SEEKING HELP!!!

[@KevinMurphy-e5q]

Kian Oval

[@BethStaggs]

The sound effects are not helpful for people with PTSD exaggerated startle reflex. I'm just anticipating the next disturbing sound that interrupts your calm voice

[@PhoenixTraumaCenter]

Ah thanks for the feedback, we will consider that for future videos

[@jellyholler6197]

I really think it's highly questionable to call yourself "doctor" in the medical field, when you aren't a medical doctor. You just have a doctorate in Social Work, so calling yourself a doctor is misleading and somewhat deceptive.

[@jenniferhampton5171]

Anyone with a doctorate degree is considered a doctor.

[@jellyholler6197]

That may be the case, but context is everything. When talking about health (like in this context) all professionals know that they must be clear when identifying what their doctoral degree is in. It is important to distinguish, as medical doctor or psychologists, for example, all have very, very different areas of knowledge. Not doing so in this context is misleading. I should know, since I myself have a terminal degree in psychology. @@jenniferhampton5171

[@jellyholler6197]

That may be the case, but context is everything. All professionals know that in a medical context, such as this one, how important it is to distinguish your credentials to clarify what sort of doctor you may be. Being a medical doctor, a psychologist, or a social worker are all very different domains of knowledge. Not being clear is misleading and deceptive. I should know as I, myself, hold a terminal degree in psychology. @@jenniferhampton5171

[@jellyholler6197]

That may be the case, but context is everything. All professionals know that in a medical context, such as this one, how important it is to distinguish your credentials to clarify what sort of doctor you may be. Being a medical doctor, a psychologist, or a social worker are all very different domains of knowledge. Not being clear is misleading and deceptive. I should know as I, myself, hold a terminal degree in psychology. @@jenniferhampton5171

[@jellyholler6197]

That may be the case, but context is everything. All professionals know that in a medical context, such as this one, how important it is to distiguish your credentials to clarify what sort of doctor you may be. Being a medical doctor, a psychologist, or a social worker are all very different domains of knowledge. Not being clear is misleading and deceptive. I should know as I, myself, hold a terminal degree in psychology.@@jenniferhampton5171

[@KathleenMoore-w6q]

Hyatt Via

[@VerneRon-l6h]

Mann Circle

[@bondjane007]

Would U think a woman who was raped many times by many different people as an ADULT would constitute CPTSD? I am think about physical abuse such as being strangled, thrown down the stair, thrown out of a 2nd story window & having their head slayed on the floor many times. Along with that being gang raped by 7 different men 7 being video taped as it occurred. being raped by a policeman at gun point. or being suffocated 7 being raped. having the rapist coming back again 7 again to try to see U again. Or being stalked, by someone for over 7 yrs. Being stalked by other men for several yrs too. Add to that childhood problems being in & out of a different place every day for your 1st 5 yrs. After that staying in a place for 11 yrs. where U were slapped, in the face many times & yelled at by the person running the boarding school. There is much more such as being raped by a boyfriend's best friend, getting pregnant, not being able to get an abortion, not being able to deliver the baby so being forced to have a C section & offer to have your tubes tied as if it was your fault for being rapped & getting pregnant!! Wouldn't all this happening to a person create CPTSD as an ADULT? I have not found anything affordable that helps people from trauma. Most treatment that might help do NOT accept insurance. Many people do NOT believe in GOD so that doesn't work for them either. many people can NOT do Yoga due to the many bone, muscle & joint problems. There doesn't seem to B anything affordable that really helps heal trauma quickly. What U suggest regarding medication is difficult for someone with trauma since it is difficult to focus, old still, etc..

[@scarba]

I assumed you’re in America where people are just left to suffer. I hope you can get the therapy you need. My daughter has been raped many times and beaten. She has autism and is mental hospital right now. She’s a mess. I truly hope you can access some therapy..

[@traceytansley1659]

Continue to focus on getting help, try meditation (which you can learn how to do on-line), and envision getting help and how calming, freeing and peaceful you will feel with help...do this daily or more. You can manifest help in this way. So sorry you have gone through such horrors. ❤

[@bondjane007]

@@scarba That is very disturbing to hear. But I am sure that people took advantage of her just like they took advantage of me. Hers was a bit more complicated. But the end result was the same. You are correct I am in American but I’m in Italian & all my family is from Italy except my mother. There’s lots more to the story but I’m too tired to tell it all. Maybe I will be writing my book soon. Hope she’s getting good quality help. Most of the people that I’ve had in my life to try and help me with worthless. I seem to know more than they did about the kinds of disorders he can get from being abused at that level. Actually it’s kind of scary

[@scarba]

@@bondjane007 I am disturbed to know these psychopathic men live among us. She’s still in hospital banging her head till it bleeds. She trusts everyone unfortunately and has been exploited in friendships as well. I have read 90% of autistic women are abused. She can’t process or understand what happened to her or verbalize it properly. In Germany people say, little children, little worries, big children big worries. It’s unfortunately true. I wish you well on your recovery. I’m so sorry it had to happen to you. Find some good people.

[@bondjane007]

@@scarba I have a scary story for you. Today I was walking on a very busy Street in Santa Monica And I was looking at something that a real estate place about my friend's property and I didn't realize there was a 6-inch step and I missed the ground and I fell on my left hip where I had the surgery 8 months ago. I hit my left knee my left arm my left hip & whiplash my neck. So when I feel bizarrely there was a friend of mine walking down the street and saw me fall and doesn't weigh anything. So it was a miracle that he was there but what was so depressing was that not a single person on the street and there were lots of people walking by came to Help me get off the sidewalk. And I fell on my THR. Anyhow I did a lot of walking had some pain pills with me so I took them and I'm in the ER now finally made it there because the Urgent Care place I went to were not very helpful and didn't even want to see me and then I wasn't sure they would take my insurance so I had to walk even further in total pain. But I thought about people the war and they walk on broken ankles and broken legs so I figured I could walk with cracks or whatever I did. But the most disparaging thing about it was that nobody offered to help and the only person that did help with someone who happened to be a friend of mine and knew me. So it made me very sad that people have gotten to the place that they just don't care about other people. It's going to be difficult to find nice people to be there as a friend. It's also very difficult to trust people once you've been through so many tramas and abuses! I'm very sad to hear about this girl. I'm guessing that she's an empath and of course she has issues that she is facing which is a burden and complicated her situation! I hope you're there for her. I hope I didn't break anything! What was so sad that not a single person came to help my friend who just happened to be passing by and then I fell.. That is a very sad statement about mankind there were plenty of people walking by and instead of helping they walked around us!! It's so sad about these things happen to people So often there's wolf in sheep clothing and you can't tell. I'm still in the ER hoping I didn't break anything.

[@KatrSrou-w5s]

Bennie Park

[@Nic4576]

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